xp disc setup files

[Guest witsend]

Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally would,

or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

 

Thank you muchly!

[Guest philo]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

 

"witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

would,

> or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

>

> Thank you muchly!

>

>

 

 

you can delete that entry from boot.ini

 

just use caution!

[Guest Rich Barry]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

Rt click MyComputer>select Properties>Advanced>Startup and

Recovery-Settings>Edit. Highlight the line that say's

WinXP Setup and delete it. Choose File from the Menu and select Save.

That will remove the option to select XP setup.

Did you mistakely try to install WinXP again??

"witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0DAC9C6F-B4BD-45FD-9AA2-4353DA3689B7@microsoft.com...

> Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

> would,

> or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

>

> Thank you muchly!

>

>

[Guest witsend]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

Thanks philo. I am rather a newbie at this-perhaps I'm in the wrong section

here. Can you be more specific? How do I go about doing so?

 

"philo" wrote:

>

> "witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:0DAC9C6F-B4BD-45FD-9AA2-4353DA3689B7@microsoft.com...

> > Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> > sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> > downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> > the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

> would,

> > or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> > others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> > setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

> >

> > Thank you muchly!

> >

> >

>

>

> you can delete that entry from boot.ini

>

> just use caution!

>

>

>

[Guest witsend]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

Hello Rich and thank you. You are correct to some extent. I am having

issues with a hard drive that is not being recognized beyond 137 GB. I am

aware of the plethora of reasons why this could happen. However, none apply

here. I was going to try to repartition the drive with the xpSP2 disc,

however it doesn't seem to have that option. Only the original xp disc

(which does not have any of the service packs) can be used for this purpose.

Its a long story but basically no matter what I do, I can't partition this

thing beyond 137 GB. Even using my installed version of xp which has all the

service packs and updates proves fruitless. It should be seeing the whole

drive but it is not.

At any rate, I will try your suggestion to remove the setup files. Will let

you know how things go.

 

Thanks again.

 

 

"Rich Barry" wrote:

> Rt click MyComputer>select Properties>Advanced>Startup and

> Recovery-Settings>Edit. Highlight the line that say's

> WinXP Setup and delete it. Choose File from the Menu and select Save.

> That will remove the option to select XP setup.

> Did you mistakely try to install WinXP again??

> "witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:0DAC9C6F-B4BD-45FD-9AA2-4353DA3689B7@microsoft.com...

> > Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> > sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> > downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> > the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

> > would,

> > or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> > others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> > setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

> >

> > Thank you muchly!

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest witsend]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

Ok, I tried it and the end result was that the options given are now:

Windows xp professional

Windows (default)

 

before it was:

Windows xp setup

Windows xp professional

 

The exact wording may be wrong, but you get the idea.

I selected Windows (default) to see what happens and it went into Windows

setup again. Maybe I can use msconfig to change the boot order around a

little?

Right now it shows under the boot.ini tab:

 

[boot Loader]

Timeout=5

Default=c:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT

[Operating Systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP

Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

 

I really hate this thing because one slip of the finger could kill my

machine. That much I know. Any suggestions?

 

 

 

 

 

 

"witsend" wrote:

> Hello Rich and thank you. You are correct to some extent. I am having

> issues with a hard drive that is not being recognized beyond 137 GB. I am

> aware of the plethora of reasons why this could happen. However, none apply

> here. I was going to try to repartition the drive with the xpSP2 disc,

> however it doesn't seem to have that option. Only the original xp disc

> (which does not have any of the service packs) can be used for this purpose.

> Its a long story but basically no matter what I do, I can't partition this

> thing beyond 137 GB. Even using my installed version of xp which has all the

> service packs and updates proves fruitless. It should be seeing the whole

> drive but it is not.

> At any rate, I will try your suggestion to remove the setup files. Will let

> you know how things go.

>

> Thanks again.

>

>

> "Rich Barry" wrote:

>

> > Rt click MyComputer>select Properties>Advanced>Startup and

> > Recovery-Settings>Edit. Highlight the line that say's

> > WinXP Setup and delete it. Choose File from the Menu and select Save.

> > That will remove the option to select XP setup.

> > Did you mistakely try to install WinXP again??

> > "witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:0DAC9C6F-B4BD-45FD-9AA2-4353DA3689B7@microsoft.com...

> > > Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> > > sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> > > downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> > > the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

> > > would,

> > > or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> > > others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> > > setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

> > >

> > > Thank you muchly!

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest witsend]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

Ok used system restore and now the Boot.ini tab in msconfig shows the same

except ...

 

timeout=30

 

and

 

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

 

I guess the default change did the trick as the choose operating system

option no longer shows.

 

Thanks for setting me in the right direction.

 

 

"witsend" wrote:

> Ok, I tried it and the end result was that the options given are now:

> Windows xp professional

> Windows (default)

>

> before it was:

> Windows xp setup

> Windows xp professional

>

> The exact wording may be wrong, but you get the idea.

> I selected Windows (default) to see what happens and it went into Windows

> setup again. Maybe I can use msconfig to change the boot order around a

> little?

> Right now it shows under the boot.ini tab:

>

> [boot Loader]

> Timeout=5

> Default=c:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT

> [Operating Systems]

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP

> Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

>

> I really hate this thing because one slip of the finger could kill my

> machine. That much I know. Any suggestions?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> "witsend" wrote:

>

> > Hello Rich and thank you. You are correct to some extent. I am having

> > issues with a hard drive that is not being recognized beyond 137 GB. I am

> > aware of the plethora of reasons why this could happen. However, none apply

> > here. I was going to try to repartition the drive with the xpSP2 disc,

> > however it doesn't seem to have that option. Only the original xp disc

> > (which does not have any of the service packs) can be used for this purpose.

> > Its a long story but basically no matter what I do, I can't partition this

> > thing beyond 137 GB. Even using my installed version of xp which has all the

> > service packs and updates proves fruitless. It should be seeing the whole

> > drive but it is not.

> > At any rate, I will try your suggestion to remove the setup files. Will let

> > you know how things go.

> >

> > Thanks again.

> >

> >

> > "Rich Barry" wrote:

> >

> > > Rt click MyComputer>select Properties>Advanced>Startup and

> > > Recovery-Settings>Edit. Highlight the line that say's

> > > WinXP Setup and delete it. Choose File from the Menu and select Save.

> > > That will remove the option to select XP setup.

> > > Did you mistakely try to install WinXP again??

> > > "witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:0DAC9C6F-B4BD-45FD-9AA2-4353DA3689B7@microsoft.com...

> > > > Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> > > > sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> > > > downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> > > > the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

> > > > would,

> > > > or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> > > > others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> > > > setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

> > > >

> > > > Thank you muchly!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest Rich Barry]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

I would try using xfdisk. You can get it here. Just set your floppy

drive to first boot device in Bios.

http://www.mecronome.de/xfdisk/ I use and like it.

 

Pickup a Win98SE bootdisk from http://www.bootdisk.com Put it and the

xfdisk program on a floppy. You can delete the

older fdisk if you need room.

You may find that you will install WinXP SP1 at least and after

you can rt click MyComputer>select Manage>Disk Management and the remainder

of the hard drive will show up there as unallocated space. Which just means

you can create

a logical partition and assigned it a letter. That is if xfdisk does not

allow a partition greater than 137G.

 

"witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0DAC9C6F-B4BD-45FD-9AA2-4353DA3689B7@microsoft.com...

> Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

> would,

> or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

>

> Thank you muchly!

>

>

[Guest Anna]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

 

"witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:0DAC9C6F-B4BD-45FD-9AA2-4353DA3689B7@microsoft.com...

> Hello all. I have a silly little problem that has a simple solution to be

> sure, but I'll be darned if I can come up with it. Basically, I have

> downloaded the setup files from the windows xp disc and now when I turn on

> the computer, its giving me the option to start windows as I normally

> would,

> or to start windows xp setup, which will invariably mess up the machine if

> others in the family stumble across this option. Where oh where are these

> setup files on my machine and how do I get rid of them?

>

> Thank you muchly!

 

"witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3D1DDFEB-69FB-4345-BF5A-A3E7128C9DD5@microsoft.com...

> Hello Rich and thank you. You are correct to some extent. I am having

> issues with a hard drive that is not being recognized beyond 137 GB. I am

> aware of the plethora of reasons why this could happen. However, none

> apply

> here. I was going to try to repartition the drive with the xpSP2 disc,

> however it doesn't seem to have that option. Only the original xp disc

> (which does not have any of the service packs) can be used for this

> purpose.

> Its a long story but basically no matter what I do, I can't partition this

> thing beyond 137 GB. Even using my installed version of xp which has all

> the

> service packs and updates proves fruitless. It should be seeing the whole

> drive but it is not.

> At any rate, I will try your suggestion to remove the setup files. Will

> let

> you know how things go.

>

> Thanks again.

 

"witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7661C51F-6223-4773-9C91-0B6D193097BB@microsoft.com...

> Ok, I tried it and the end result was that the options given are now:

> Windows xp professional

> Windows (default)

>

> before it was:

> Windows xp setup

> Windows xp professional

>

> The exact wording may be wrong, but you get the idea.

> I selected Windows (default) to see what happens and it went into Windows

> setup again. Maybe I can use msconfig to change the boot order around a

> little?

> Right now it shows under the boot.ini tab:

>

> [boot Loader]

> Timeout=5

> Default=c:\$WIN_NT$.~BT\BOOTSECT.DAT

> [Operating Systems]

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP

> Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

>

> I really hate this thing because one slip of the finger could kill my

> machine. That much I know. Any suggestions?

 

"witsend" <witsend@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6A96C8B9-C99E-4FDC-9949-373B7B8ADA22@microsoft.com...

> Ok used system restore and now the Boot.ini tab in msconfig shows the same

> except ...

> timeout=30

> and

> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

>

> I guess the default change did the trick as the choose operating system

> option no longer shows.

>

> Thanks for setting me in the right direction.

 

 

witsend:

It's good that Rich helped you to correct your boot.ini file to eliminate

the superfluous entry. Just one minor point...you may want to consider

changing the "Timeout" entry to something like 3, instead of 30. It's not

terribly important but it should save you a fraction of time during bootup

of your system.

 

More importantly - re your problem with the 137 GB HDD limitation...

 

There are two basic requirements for Windows XP to recognize the full

capacity of large-capacity hard drives, i.e., hard disks having a capacity

greater than 137 GB...

1. Your mainboard's BIOS must support large-capacity disks, and,

2. The XP operating system must contain SP1 and/or SP2 at the time the

large-capacity HDD is installed.

 

1. Assuming your mainboard's BIOS supports large-capacity disks, i.e., hard

drives greater than 137 GB, the Windows XP operating system that does *not*

include SP1/SP2 at the time the large-capacity HDD is installed will

recognize *only* a maximum capacity of 137 GB (actually 137 billion bytes

which translates into approx. 128 GB). Should the disk have a greater

capacity, the remaining disk space will *not* be recognized by the XP

operating system. If, on the other hand, the XP installation disk contained

SP1 or SP2 at the time of the OS installation, then the full capacity of the

disk would be recognized.

 

Keep in mind that in any event, your mainboard's BIOS *must* support

large-capacity disks. If it does not, then installing SP1 or SP2 will *not*,

in and of itself, provide this support. Virtually all mainboards

manufactured over the past five years or so support large-capacity disks. If

the mainboard is an older one not providing this support, frequently a BIOS

upgrade to provide large-capacity disk capability is available from the

mainboard's manufacturer.

 

2. So assuming your mainboard supports large-capacity disks...

If you installed an XP OS that did *not* include SP1 and/or SP2 at the time

a large-capacity (160 GB or greater) was installed, the system would

recognize only up to 137 GB, (usually about 128 GB in binary terms). If &

when SP1 and/or SP2 is *subsequently* installed, the full capacity of that

disk will be recognized (again

assuming that your motherboard's BIOS supports large-capacity disks) -- the

137 GB that was partitioned/formatted when XP was originally installed, and

the remaining disk space which will be reflected as "unallocated space" --

disk space that you can subsequently partition/format using XP's Disk

Management utility (Start | right-click My Computer | Manage | Disk

Management). Note that this will be a second partition on the disk.

 

Assuming you can live with a HDD containing two (or more) partitions - fine.

However, the only way to create a single partition of the large-capacity

disk at this point - should that be your desire - would be through a

third-party partition management program such as Partition Magic or some

other program designed for that purpose. Or you could simply start over and

make a fresh install of the XP OS (including SP1 and/or SP2). Obviously this

would delete *all* the data currently residing on your HDD so for most users

this would not be a practical option.

Anna

[Guest Timothy Daniels]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

"Anna" wrote:

> [...................]

> Assuming you can live with a HDD containing two (or more)

> partitions - fine. However, the only way to create a single

> partition of the large-capacity disk at this point - should that

> be your desire - would be through a third-party partition

> management program such as Partition Magic or some other

> program designed for that purpose....

 

 

I've been hearing about a free utility called "GParted" (an

acronym for "Gnome Partition Editor". It runs on Linux, but

it can be run from a "live CD" or a "live USB" memory stick so

that Linux does not have to be installed on any hard disk in the

system. The partitioning format (as opposed to *file* format)

for Windows and Linux are the same, so it can be used for any

PC-based architecture. Here's the home page for GParted:

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ . Here's the details for making

a live CD and live USB stick: http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/ .

I've never used GParted because I have other utilities that I've

already paid for, but it seems to be popular and well-reputed in

the Linux world.

 

*TimDaniels*

[Guest Anna]

Re: xp disc setup files

 

> "Anna" wrote:

>> [...................]

>> Assuming you can live with a HDD containing two (or more)

>> partitions - fine. However, the only way to create a single

>> partition of the large-capacity disk at this point - should that

>> be your desire - would be through a third-party partition

>> management program such as Partition Magic or some other

>> program designed for that purpose....

 

 

"Timothy Daniels" <NoSpam@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message

news:uMYumbmcIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> I've been hearing about a free utility called "GParted" (an

> acronym for "Gnome Partition Editor". It runs on Linux, but

> it can be run from a "live CD" or a "live USB" memory stick so

> that Linux does not have to be installed on any hard disk in the

> system. The partitioning format (as opposed to *file* format)

> for Windows and Linux are the same, so it can be used for any

> PC-based architecture. Here's the home page for GParted:

> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/ . Here's the details for making

> a live CD and live USB stick: http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/ .

> I've never used GParted because I have other utilities that I've

> already paid for, but it seems to be popular and well-reputed in

> the Linux world.

>

> *TimDaniels*

 

 

Thanks Tim. I'll look into it.

Anna