Long delay during POST

[Guest ms]

This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before windows

starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10 seconds

delay in other computers.

 

Included for info:

autoexec.bat

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

Set tvdumpflags=8

 

config.sys

numlock = off

 

What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

 

ms

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

ms wrote:

> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before

> windows starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less

> than 10 seconds delay in other computers.

>

> Included for info:

> autoexec.bat

> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

> Set tvdumpflags=8

>

> config.sys

> numlock = off

 

Unimportant, the computer is nowhere near there yet.

 

What might have helped is info about the computer itself.

___________

> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

 

Quien sabe, I'm not a hardware type. However, since POST is an

acronym for power on self test, I'd guess it is having a problem

determining if hardware and/or RAM are functioning properly or even

detecting same.

 

Fix? Gotta determine the cause - as opposed to symptom - of the

problem first. IOW, take out all hardware possible - including extra

RAM sticks and drives, etc. - and see if it improves. That's what I'd

do at least, YMMV and probably does.

 

 

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[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does not make it

not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in another drive, install

Windows, test.

 

Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load things

up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using MSCONFIG. Any change?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...

> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before windows

> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10 seconds

> delay in other computers.

>

> Included for info:

> autoexec.bat

> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

> Set tvdumpflags=8

>

> config.sys

> numlock = off

>

> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

>

> ms

[Guest ms]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in

news:#Yr5WblcIHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does not

> make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in another

> drive, install Windows, test.

>

> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using MSCONFIG.

> Any change?

>

 

Thanks, Gary.

 

As usual, you have the answer. That cut the delay back to 15 seconds,

fine with me.

 

I will enable config.sys again, as I need numlock = off.

 

Regarding autoexec.bat, I know W98SE does not need it, if I just put in a

empty autoexec.bat, the question:

I notice with it disabled, I still have the sound icon in the System

Tray, I still have everything normal in Multimedia in Control Panel.

 

What purpose is served when the sound drivers are loaded in autoexec.bat?

 

ms

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...

> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before

windows

> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10

seconds

> delay in other computers.

>

> Included for info:

> autoexec.bat

> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

> Set tvdumpflags=8

>

> config.sys

> numlock = off

>

> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

__________________

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

> another drive, install Windows, test.

>

> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

> MSCONFIG. Any change?

 

I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows even

starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks config.sys

and executes autoexe.bat, no?

 

 

--

 

dadiOH

____________________________

 

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[Guest Lil' Dave]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:61u6m1F20qektU1@mid.individual.net...

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in

> news:#Yr5WblcIHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>

>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does not

>> make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in another

>> drive, install Windows, test.

>>

>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

>> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using MSCONFIG.

>> Any change?

>>

>

> Thanks, Gary.

>

> As usual, you have the answer. That cut the delay back to 15 seconds,

> fine with me.

>

> I will enable config.sys again, as I need numlock = off.

>

> Regarding autoexec.bat, I know W98SE does not need it, if I just put in a

> empty autoexec.bat, the question:

> I notice with it disabled, I still have the sound icon in the System

> Tray, I still have everything normal in Multimedia in Control Panel.

>

> What purpose is served when the sound drivers are loaded in autoexec.bat?

>

> ms

 

Odd (to me). Isn't numlock on or off a bios setting?

Dave

[Guest ms]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in

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> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:61u6m1F20qektU1@mid.individual.net...

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in

>> news:#Yr5WblcIHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>>

>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does not

>>> make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in another

>>> drive, install Windows, test.

>>>

>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

>>> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using MSCONFIG.

>>> Any change?

>>>

>>

>> Thanks, Gary.

>>

>> As usual, you have the answer. That cut the delay back to 15 seconds,

>> fine with me.

>>

>> I will enable config.sys again, as I need numlock = off.

>>

>> Regarding autoexec.bat, I know W98SE does not need it, if I just put

>> in a empty autoexec.bat, the question:

>> I notice with it disabled, I still have the sound icon in the System

>> Tray, I still have everything normal in Multimedia in Control Panel.

>>

>> What purpose is served when the sound drivers are loaded in

>> autoexec.bat?

>>

>> ms

>

> Odd (to me). Isn't numlock on or off a bios setting?

> Dave

>

I didn't look for it in this BIOS, but the config fix is what I always

use. Is there a real use for NUM Lock these days?

 

ms

[Guest PCR]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

dadiOH wrote:

| "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

| news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...

|> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before

|> windows starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less

|> than 10 seconds delay in other computers.

|>

|> Included for info:

|> autoexec.bat

|> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

|> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

 

If you never boot to DOS to run a game that might want to use

AU30DOS.COM, put an "REM" in front of that line. It's highly doubtful

Windows would ever use it.

 

|> Set tvdumpflags=8

|>

|> config.sys

|> numlock = off

|>

|> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

|> __________________

|

| Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

|> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

|> another drive, install Windows, test.

|>

|> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

|> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

|> MSCONFIG. Any change?

|

| I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows even

| starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks config.sys

| and executes autoexe.bat, no?

 

IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys & Autoexec.bat

before it loads Windows...

 

http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/startup.htm

The Startup Axis

 

| --

|

| dadiOH

| ____________________________

|

| dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

| ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

| LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

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Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

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[Guest glee]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message

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> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...

>> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before

> windows

>> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10

> seconds

>> delay in other computers.

>>

>> Included for info:

>> autoexec.bat

>> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

>> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

>> Set tvdumpflags=8

>>

>> config.sys

>> numlock = off

>>

>> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

> __________________

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

>> another drive, install Windows, test.

>>

>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

>> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

>

> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows even

> starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks config.sys

> and executes autoexe.bat, no?

 

My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows, and that "ms"

mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.

--

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http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[Guest glee]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:61ulh1F20j10rU1@mid.individual.net...

> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in

> news:OqsnQvocIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>

>> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

>> news:61u6m1F20qektU1@mid.individual.net...

>> snip

>> Odd (to me). Isn't numlock on or off a bios setting?

>> Dave

>>

> I didn't look for it in this BIOS, but the config fix is what I always

> use. Is there a real use for NUM Lock these days?

 

I have always set NUMLOCK to ON in the BIOS setup, on desktop computers. If you

don't turn NUMLOCK on, how do you utilise your numeric keypad on the right side of

the keyboard?

 

On laptops, I leave it off unless I have a specific use for it during a session,

then I turn it on manually, for obvious reasons.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[Guest glee]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:61u6m1F20qektU1@mid.individual.net...

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in

> news:#Yr5WblcIHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>

>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does not

>> make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in another

>> drive, install Windows, test.

>>

>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

>> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using MSCONFIG.

>> Any change?

>>

>

> Thanks, Gary.

>

> As usual, you have the answer. That cut the delay back to 15 seconds,

> fine with me.

>

> I will enable config.sys again, as I need numlock = off.

>

> Regarding autoexec.bat, I know W98SE does not need it, if I just put in a

> empty autoexec.bat, the question:

> I notice with it disabled, I still have the sound icon in the System

> Tray, I still have everything normal in Multimedia in Control Panel.

>

> What purpose is served when the sound drivers are loaded in autoexec.bat?

 

As PCR mentioned, those audio entries in autoexec.bat are for sound in a DOS session

(not a DOS box in Windows) such as when playing a DOS game. They would be better

put into a dosstart.bat file if you really needed them for that.

 

The "Set tvdumpflags" entry is used by Zone Alarm....google tvdumpflags and then

decide if you want to re-enable that entry in autoexec.bat.

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

[Guest Bill Blanton]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message news:61ulh1F20j10rU1@mid.individual.net...

> "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in

> news:OqsnQvocIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>

>> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

>> news:61u6m1F20qektU1@mid.individual.net...

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in

>>> news:#Yr5WblcIHA.3932@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>>>

>>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does not

>>>> make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in another

>>>> drive, install Windows, test.

>>>>

>>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

>>>> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using MSCONFIG.

>>>> Any change?

>>> As usual, you have the answer. That cut the delay back to 15 seconds,

>>> fine with me.

>>>

>>> I will enable config.sys again, as I need numlock = off.

>>>

>>> Regarding autoexec.bat, I know W98SE does not need it, if I just put

>>> in a empty autoexec.bat, the question:

>>> I notice with it disabled, I still have the sound icon in the System

>>> Tray, I still have everything normal in Multimedia in Control Panel.

>>>

>>> What purpose is served when the sound drivers are loaded in

>>> autoexec.bat?

 

 

To allow "sound" when running "DOS programs".

 

 

As far as the lines;

 

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

Set tvdumpflags=8

 

those may be used in Windows also. Either way there is no significant

time delay in those two SET commands.

 

I would do as PCR suggests and just disable the LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

command.

 

> I didn't look for it in this BIOS, but the config fix is what I always

> use.

 

Check it out. Most, if not all, BIOS from the last decade or so can control numlock.

> Is there a real use for NUM Lock these days?

 

Why do say that? I keep mine always on.

[Guest Sunny]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

 

"glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in message

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| "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

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| > "Lil' Dave" <spamyourself@virus.net> wrote in

| > news:OqsnQvocIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

| >

| >> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

| >> news:61u6m1F20qektU1@mid.individual.net...

| >> snip

| >> Odd (to me). Isn't numlock on or off a bios setting?

| >> Dave

| >>

| > I didn't look for it in this BIOS, but the config fix is what I always

| > use. Is there a real use for NUM Lock these days?

|

| I have always set NUMLOCK to ON in the BIOS setup, on desktop computers.

If you

| don't turn NUMLOCK on, how do you utilise your numeric keypad on the

right side of

| the keyboard?

 

Doesn't help with Flight Sims game key strokes :-)

 

| On laptops, I leave it off unless I have a specific use for it during a

session,

| then I turn it on manually, for obvious reasons.

| --

| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

| http://dts-l.net/

| http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

|

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

PCR wrote:

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

>>> another drive, install Windows, test.

>>>

>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to

>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

>>

>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows

>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks

>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?

>

> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &

> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...

 

Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or "system".

Thanks for the reply.

 

--

 

dadiOH

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[Guest ms]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

ms <ms@invalid.com> wrote in news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net:

> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before

windows

> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10

seconds

> delay in other computers.

>

> Included for info:

> autoexec.bat

> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

> Set tvdumpflags=8

>

> config.sys

> numlock = off

>

> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

>

> ms

 

Thanks to all, that cleared it up, will REM those lines.

 

I only use the right number key pad for HOME and Page UP/DOWN, find it is

much handier to have NUMLOCK off all the time. In that, everyone is

different.

 

ms

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

What Glee said.

 

--

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MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message

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> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

> news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...

>> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before

> windows

>> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10

> seconds

>> delay in other computers.

>>

>> Included for info:

>> autoexec.bat

>> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

>> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

>> Set tvdumpflags=8

>>

>> config.sys

>> numlock = off

>>

>> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

> __________________

>

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

>> another drive, install Windows, test.

>>

>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to load

>> things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

>

> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows even

> starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks config.sys

> and executes autoexe.bat, no?

>

>

> --

>

> dadiOH

> ____________________________

>

> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

>

>

>

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

glee wrote:

> "dadiOH" <dadiOH@guesswhere.com> wrote in message

> news:upw5KwmcIHA.6024@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> "ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

>> news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...

>>> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before

>> windows

>>> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10

>> seconds

>>> delay in other computers.

>>>

>>> Included for info:

>>> autoexec.bat

>>> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

>>> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

>>> Set tvdumpflags=8

>>>

>>> config.sys

>>> numlock = off

>>>

>>> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

>> __________________

>>

>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

>>> another drive, install Windows, test.

>>>

>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to

>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

>>

>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows

>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks

>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?

>

> My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of

> Windows, and that "ms" mistakenly referred to the delay as being

> during POST.

 

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

 

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[Guest PCR]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

dadiOH wrote:

| PCR wrote:

|

|>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

|>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

|>>> another drive, install Windows, test.

|>>>

|>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to

|>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

|>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

|>>

|>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows

|>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks

|>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?

|>

|> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &

|> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...

|

| Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or "system".

| Thanks for the reply.

 

You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was

Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!

 

| --

|

| dadiOH

| ____________________________

|

| dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

| ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

| LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

| Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

 

--

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There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical

corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

 

--

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MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

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> dadiOH wrote:

> | PCR wrote:

> |

> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.

> |>>>

> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to

> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

> |>>

> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows

> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks

> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?

> |>

> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &

> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...

> |

> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or "system".

> | Thanks for the reply.

>

> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was

> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!

>

> | --

> |

> | dadiOH

> | ____________________________

> |

> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

[Guest ms]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in news:u4nNd84cIHA.4696

@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

> The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical

> corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

>

 

Yes, my error. For clarification, if the first screen stays for a long

time, the correct statement is that POST did occur, is finished, and the

delay afterword is after POST?

 

ms

[Guest Mart]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

In which case try Boot Log Analyzer v1.23 (freeware) to determine the

bottleneck.

Still available at :-

http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/bootloganalyzer123.html

 

Mart

 

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:622u8oF220f4mU1@mid.individual.net...

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in news:u4nNd84cIHA.4696

> @TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>

>> The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical

>> corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

>>

>

> Yes, my error. For clarification, if the first screen stays for a long

> time, the correct statement is that POST did occur, is finished, and the

> delay afterword is after POST?

>

> ms

[Guest Mike Y]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

I've seen SCSI do that. If SCSI is detected, some SCSI BIOS's will

try to walk the entire SCSI bus to scan for devices, one at a time. That

means reset and timeout for each device in order.

 

 

"ms" <ms@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:61tsmcF1vsepsU1@mid.individual.net...

> This machine has a consistent 40 second delay during POST before windows

> starts to load. This is not normal as I usually see less than 10 seconds

> delay in other computers.

>

> Included for info:

> autoexec.bat

> SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D3 T4

> LH C:\WINDOWS\AU30DOS.COM

> Set tvdumpflags=8

>

> config.sys

> numlock = off

>

> What are usual causes of a long delay here, and a fix?

>

> ms

[Guest PCR]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

| The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical

| corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

 

That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did

figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame

dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat

us to it!

 

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> dadiOH wrote:

|> | PCR wrote:

|> |

|> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

|> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

|> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.

|> |>>>

|> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to

|> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

|> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

|> |>>

|> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows

|> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks

|> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?

|> |>

|> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &

|> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...

|> |

|> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or

|> | "system". Thanks for the reply.

|>

|> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was

|> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!

|>

|> | --

|> |

|> | dadiOH

|> | ____________________________

|> |

|> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

|> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

|> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

|> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest glee]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

It was me:

"glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

 

<quote>

 

My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows, and that "ms"

mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.

 

</quote>

--

Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

http://dts-l.net/

http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

 

 

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the technical

> | corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

>

> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did

> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't blame

> dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but you beat

> us to it!

>

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> |> dadiOH wrote:

> |> | PCR wrote:

> |> |

> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers" does

> |> |>>> not make it not normal for the machine in front of you. Put in

> |> |>>> another drive, install Windows, test.

> |> |>>>

> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds to

> |> |>>> load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys using

> |> |>>> MSCONFIG. Any change?

> |> |>>

> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before Windows

> |> |>> even starts to load and it is Windows that loads drivers, checks

> |> |>> config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?

> |> |>

> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &

> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...

> |> |

> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or

> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.

> |>

> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as was

> |> Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton back!

> |>

> |> | --

> |> |

> |> | dadiOH

> |> | ____________________________

> |> |

> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

> |>

> |> --

> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

> |> Should things get worse after this,

> |> PCR

> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

>

[Guest PCR]

Re: Long delay during POST

 

glee wrote:

| It was me:

 

Yep, that was it. I clicked every post thrice but never saw it again!

But I might have guessed it was you. Very good, as usual. I'm busy in

Warren's thread & must go soon.

 

| "glee" wrote in message news:egPvzXqcIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|

| <quote>

|

| My guess is that the delay is after POST, during startup of Windows,

| and that "ms" mistakenly referred to the delay as being during POST.

|

| </quote>

| --

| Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+

| http://dts-l.net/

| http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm

|

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:ePB3DyDdIHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

|> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> | The OP misspoke. Nobody (including you) bothered to make the

|> | technical corrections decently. End of discussion, seems to me.

|>

|> That is true, as ms admits. I can't find who, but someone in here did

|> figure he overestimated the duration of post besides you. I can't

|> blame dadiOH for not figuring it too. Me 'n Blanton WOULD have-- but

|> you beat us to it!

|>

|> | --

|> | Gary S. Terhune

|> | MS-MVP Shell/User

|> | http://www.grystmill.com

|> |

|> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

|> | news:%23hU4hn2cIHA.4172@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

|> |> dadiOH wrote:

|> |> | PCR wrote:

|> |> |

|> |> |>> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

|> |> |>>> Just because 40 seconds is not normal for "other computers"

|> |> |>>> does not make it not normal for the machine in front of you.

|> |> |>>> Put in another drive, install Windows, test.

|> |> |>>>

|> |> |>>> Then again, those sound drivers may be taking a few seconds

|> |> |>>> to load things up. Try disabling Autoexec.bat and Config.sys

|> |> |>>> using MSCONFIG. Any change?

|> |> |>>

|> |> |>> I'm glad that fixed it for him but why?? POST is before

|> |> |>> Windows even starts to load and it is Windows that loads

|> |> |>> drivers, checks config.sys and executes autoexe.bat, no?

|> |> |>

|> |> |> IO.sys processes MSDOS.sys (or Winboot.ini), Config.sys &

|> |> |> Autoexec.bat before it loads Windows...

|> |> |

|> |> | Yeah, I mis-spoke saying "Windows", should have said "OS" or

|> |> | "system". Thanks for the reply.

|> |>

|> |> You are welcome. That cquirke always was a knowledgeable one, as

|> |> was Terhune in this thread as usual. And it's good to see Blanton

|> |> back!

|> |>

|> |> | --

|> |> |

|> |> | dadiOH

|> |> | ____________________________

|> |> |

|> |> | dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

|> |> | ...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

|> |> | LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

|> |> | Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

|> |>

|> |> --

|> |> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> |> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> |> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> |> Should things get worse after this,

|> |> PCR

|> |> pcrrcp@netzero.net

|>

|> --

|> Thanks or Good Luck,

|> There may be humor in this post, and,

|> Naturally, you will not sue,

|> Should things get worse after this,

|> PCR

|> pcrrcp@netzero.net

 

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net