cannot access data files

February 18, 2008

Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the motherboard

went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older

computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me" computer

has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but

then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

computer...

All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is

there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

February 18, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

motherboard

> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older

> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

computer

> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>

> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but

> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

> computer...

>

> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is

> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>

WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

XP is usually installed on an NTFS drive, so is not going to be readable

you need to attach the drive to an other machine...

one running Win2k, XP or Vista (or NT for that matter)

Note: there may be a third party utility avail to read NTFS form windows

but I have no idea if it would work

Otherwise...there is one dos utility I know of

http://www.freewarefiles.com/ntfsdos-readwrite-ntfs-from-dos_program_11100.html

February 18, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

> motherboard

> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older

> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

> computer

> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>

> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but

> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

> computer...

>

> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is

> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>

Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

backup medium.

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

i have a computer W/windows Vista however it has a SATA HD. How can I connect

the ATA drive to the SATA socket in the motherboard? can I use the CD-ROM

ribbon?

I have also access to another computer with Win XP but it also has a SATA

HD...same problem as above....

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

> > Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

> > motherboard

> > went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older

> > computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

> > computer

> > has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

> > Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

> >

> > I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP but

> > then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

> > computer...

> >

> > All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X". Is

> > there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

> >

>

> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

>

> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

> backup medium.

>

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:3C0D372F-8465-447F-8CE4-9C32A089E3CB@microsoft.com...

> i have a computer W/windows Vista however it has a SATA HD. How can I

connect

> the ATA drive to the SATA socket in the motherboard? can I use the CD-ROM

> ribbon?

>

> I have also access to another computer with Win XP but it also has a SATA

> HD...same problem as above....

>

<snip>

As long as either of those machines somewhere has an IDE header,

that's the way to go

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:09 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

Not literally true, of course. It has no problem with FAT16 and FAT12.

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

Pegasus,

went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?

karl snooks

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>

> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

>> motherboard

>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my older

>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

>> computer

>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>>

>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP

>> but

>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

>> computer...

>>

>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X".

>> Is

>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>>

>

> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

>

> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

> backup medium.

>

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

Just FYI: I found it in a Google search, but I don't recall where at this

point.

Karl Snooks wrote:

> Pegasus,

> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?

> karl snooks

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

>>> motherboard

>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my

>>> older

>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

>>> computer

>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

>>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>>>

>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP

>>> but

>>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

>>> computer...

>>>

>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X".

>>> Is

>>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>>>

>>

>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

>>

>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

>> backup medium.

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google

search box:

download "ntfsdos.exe"

I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:

http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm

"Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Pegasus,

> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?

> karl snooks

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

>>> motherboard

>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my

>>> older

>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

>>> computer

>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

>>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>>>

>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP

>>> but

>>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

>>> computer...

>>>

>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X".

>>> Is

>>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>>>

>>

>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

>>

>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

>> backup medium.

>>

>

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

news:os9kr3lg0giqg1bi4gkossrek3oj3aicj7@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:09 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>

> > WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

>

> Not literally true, of course. It has no problem with FAT16 and FAT12.

>

Note I did not write "Fat32" .

My post said "fat/32" which of course implies fat 12/16 and 32

and easily enough understood shorthand.

OTOH: I don't know if my shorthand notation implied that WinME can recognize

NT4's 4gig Fat16...

it may have trouble reading the entire partition.

I'm sure I tested that sometime many years ago

but...<G>

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:56:48 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> news:os9kr3lg0giqg1bi4gkossrek3oj3aicj7@4ax.com...

> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:09 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> >

> > > WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

> >

> > Not literally true, of course. It has no problem with FAT16 and FAT12.

> >

>

> Note I did not write "Fat32" .

>

> My post said "fat/32" which of course implies fat 12/16 and 32

>

> and easily enough understood shorthand.

It may imply it to you, but I certainly didn't read it that way, and

I'll bet that most others didn't either.

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

Please Reply to the Newsgroup

February 19, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

news:lrulr35o52kkshr9detv74v8i7kb36qaq9@4ax.com...

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:56:48 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>

> >

> > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> > news:os9kr3lg0giqg1bi4gkossrek3oj3aicj7@4ax.com...

> > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:09 -0600, "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote:

> > >

> > > > WinME can only recognize drives that use fat/32 (file system)

> > >

> > > Not literally true, of course. It has no problem with FAT16 and FAT12.

> > >

> >

> > Note I did not write "Fat32" .

> >

> > My post said "fat/32" which of course implies fat 12/16 and 32

> >

> > and easily enough understood shorthand.

>

> It may imply it to you, but I certainly didn't read it that way, and

> I'll bet that most others didn't either.

>

You may be right...

I'll take a vote.

All who thought my post unclear please let me know.

Thank you!

February 20, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

Pegasus,

Went there. NTFSDOS links there all point to SysInternals site. Get the IE

msg about not being to locate page or whatever that msg says when attempt to

reach a site fails. I'm thinking that, for one reason or the other, NTFSDOS

has been removed from the sysinternals web site.

karl snooks

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

news:uMvksHscIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google

> search box:

>

> download "ntfsdos.exe"

>

> I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:

> http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm

>

> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

> news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Pegasus,

>> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?

>> karl snooks

>>

>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>>> message news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

>>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

>>>> motherboard

>>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my

>>>> older

>>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

>>>> computer

>>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and, Win

>>>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>>>>

>>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows XP

>>>> but

>>>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

>>>> computer...

>>>>

>>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive X".

>>>> Is

>>>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>>>>

>>>

>>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

>>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

>>>

>>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

>>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

>>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

>>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

>>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

>>> backup medium.

>>>

>>

>

February 20, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

news:OG68dw2cIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Pegasus,

> Went there. NTFSDOS links there all point to SysInternals site. Get the

IE

> msg about not being to locate page or whatever that msg says when attempt

to

> reach a site fails. I'm thinking that, for one reason or the other,

NTFSDOS

> has been removed from the sysinternals web site.

>

It's available here

http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

> karl snooks

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:uMvksHscIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> > They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google

> > search box:

> >

> > download "ntfsdos.exe"

> >

> > I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:

> > http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm

> >

> > "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> Pegasus,

> >> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?

> >> karl snooks

> >>

> >> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> >> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>>

> >>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >>> message news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

> >>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

> >>>> motherboard

> >>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my

> >>>> older

> >>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

> >>>> computer

> >>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and,

Win

> >>>> Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

> >>>>

> >>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows

XP

> >>>> but

> >>>> then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a different

> >>>> computer...

> >>>>

> >>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive

X".

> >>>> Is

> >>>> there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

> >>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

> >>>

> >>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

> >>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

> >>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

> >>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

> >>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

> >>> backup medium.

> >>>

> >>

> >

>

February 20, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

Philo, I think that site is for Avira's NTFS4DOS, which is NOT the same

thing as NTFSDOS.

It's been "somewhat interesting" exploring the differences, however.

philo wrote:

> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OG68dw2cIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

>> Pegasus,

>> Went there. NTFSDOS links there all point to SysInternals site. Get the

>> IE

>> msg about not being to locate page or whatever that msg says when attempt

>> to

>> reach a site fails. I'm thinking that, for one reason or the other,

>> NTFSDOS

>> has been removed from the sysinternals web site.

>

> It's available here

>

> http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

>

>> karl snooks

>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>> news:uMvksHscIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google

>>> search box:

>>>

>>> download "ntfsdos.exe"

>>>

>>> I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:

>>> http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm

>>>

>>> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Pegasus,

>>>> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I find?

>>>> karl snooks

>>>>

>>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>

>>>>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>>>>> message news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

>>>>>> motherboard

>>>>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my

>>>>>> older

>>>>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

>>>>>> computer

>>>>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and,

>>>>>> >>>>>> Win Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows

>>>>>> XP

>>>>>> but then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a

>>>>>> different

>>>>>> computer...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive

>>>>>> X".

>>>>>> Is there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>>>>>

>>>>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

>>>>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

>>>>>

>>>>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

>>>>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

>>>>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

>>>>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

>>>>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

>>>>> backup medium.

February 20, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:u9JEP62cIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Philo, I think that site is for Avira's NTFS4DOS, which is NOT the same

> thing as NTFSDOS.

>

I see that Avira has a free version and a paid version...

somehow I'd think the paid version must be better.

I don't know how they'd compare to NTFSDOS

Just a guess here, but the free version of NTFS4DOS

may be good for reading an NTFS partition and maybe for copying data off of

it...

I did try it once and confirmed that I could at least read an NTFS partition

from dos...

but that's as far as I went

> It's been "somewhat interesting" exploring the differences, however.

>

> philo wrote:

> > "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

> > news:OG68dw2cIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >

> >> Pegasus,

> >> Went there. NTFSDOS links there all point to SysInternals site. Get

the

> >> IE

> >> msg about not being to locate page or whatever that msg says when

attempt

> >> to

> >> reach a site fails. I'm thinking that, for one reason or the other,

> >> NTFSDOS

> >> has been removed from the sysinternals web site.

> >

> > It's available here

> >

> > http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

> >

> >> karl snooks

> >> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> >> news:uMvksHscIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>> They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google

> >>> search box:

> >>>

> >>> download "ntfsdos.exe"

> >>>

> >>> I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:

> >>> http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm

> >>>

> >>> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>> Pegasus,

> >>>> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I

find?

> >>>> karl snooks

> >>>>

> >>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> >>>> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >>>>> message news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

> >>>>>> motherboard

> >>>>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my

> >>>>>> older

> >>>>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

> >>>>>> computer

> >>>>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and,

> >>>>>> >>>>>> Win Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows

> >>>>>> XP

> >>>>>> but then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a

> >>>>>> different

> >>>>>> computer...

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive

> >>>>>> X".

> >>>>>> Is there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

> >>>>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

> >>>>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

> >>>>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

> >>>>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

> >>>>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

> >>>>> backup medium.

>

February 20, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

philo wrote:

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:u9JEP62cIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Philo, I think that site is for Avira's NTFS4DOS, which is NOT the same

>> thing as NTFSDOS.

>

> I see that Avira has a free version and a paid version...

> somehow I'd think the paid version must be better.

>

> I don't know how they'd compare to NTFSDOS

>

> Just a guess here, but the free version of NTFS4DOS

> may be good for reading an NTFS partition and maybe for copying data off

> of

> it...

But you can do that even simpler by just using "NTFSDOS", however (a totally

different program, but with read only access).

I think with NTFS4DOS Free you can also write, but I haven't checked that

yet, and I really should do that.

Plus NTFS4DOS has some other utilities, like a version of checkdisk and a

disk defragger.

But some of it is in German. And it takes notably more time, and screen

prompting, to finally boot up.

> I did try it once and confirmed that I could at least read an NTFS

> partition

> from dos...but that's as far as I went

>

>> It's been "somewhat interesting" exploring the differences, however.

>>

>> philo wrote:

>>> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:OG68dw2cIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>

>>>> Pegasus,

>>>> Went there. NTFSDOS links there all point to SysInternals site. Get

>>>> the IE

>>>> msg about not being to locate page or whatever that msg says when

>>>> attempt

>>>> to reach a site fails. I'm thinking that, for one reason or the other,

>>>> NTFSDOS has been removed from the sysinternals web site.

>>>

>>> It's available here

>>>

>>> http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

>>>

>>>> karl snooks

>>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>>>> news:uMvksHscIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google

>>>>> search box:

>>>>>

>>>>> download "ntfsdos.exe"

>>>>>

>>>>> I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:

>>>>> http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm

>>>>>

>>>>> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Pegasus,

>>>>>> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I

>>>>>> find?

>>>>>> karl snooks

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

>>>>>>> message news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

>>>>>>>> motherboard

>>>>>>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on my

>>>>>>>> older

>>>>>>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win Me"

>>>>>>>> computer

>>>>>>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST and,

>>>>>>>> >>>>>> Win Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows Explorer...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start Windows

>>>>>>>> XP but then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a

>>>>>>>> different computer...

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard drive

>>>>>>>> X".

>>>>>>>> Is there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

>>>>>>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

>>>>>>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

>>>>>>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

>>>>>>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

>>>>>>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

>>>>>>> backup medium.

February 20, 2008

Re: cannot access data files

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:OWR0fN4cIHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> philo wrote:

> > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> > news:u9JEP62cIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >> Philo, I think that site is for Avira's NTFS4DOS, which is NOT the

same

> >> thing as NTFSDOS.

> >

> > I see that Avira has a free version and a paid version...

> > somehow I'd think the paid version must be better.

> >

> > I don't know how they'd compare to NTFSDOS

> >

> > Just a guess here, but the free version of NTFS4DOS

> > may be good for reading an NTFS partition and maybe for copying data off

> > of

> > it...

>

> But you can do that even simpler by just using "NTFSDOS", however (a

totally

> different program, but with read only access).

>

> I think with NTFS4DOS Free you can also write, but I haven't checked that

> yet, and I really should do that.

>

> Plus NTFS4DOS has some other utilities, like a version of checkdisk and a

> disk defragger.

>

> But some of it is in German. And it takes notably more time, and screen

> prompting, to finally boot up.

>

<snip>

Truth is...I don't know if I'd ever feel comfortable writing to an NTFS

partition for any dos-based utility...

especially considering that all my XP/Win2k/NT machines have several

removable drive bays...

so I can have access to any NTFS drive from an NT-based machine in just a

few minutes

> > I did try it once and confirmed that I could at least read an NTFS

> > partition

> > from dos...but that's as far as I went

> >

> >> It's been "somewhat interesting" exploring the differences, however.

> >>

> >> philo wrote:

> >>> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

> >>> news:OG68dw2cIHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >>>

> >>>> Pegasus,

> >>>> Went there. NTFSDOS links there all point to SysInternals site. Get

> >>>> the IE

> >>>> msg about not being to locate page or whatever that msg says when

> >>>> attempt

> >>>> to reach a site fails. I'm thinking that, for one reason or the

other,

> >>>> NTFSDOS has been removed from the sysinternals web site.

> >>>

> >>> It's available here

> >>>

> >>> http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html

> >>>

> >>>> karl snooks

> >>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> >>>> news:uMvksHscIHA.1960@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>>>> They must have removed it. However, when typing this into a Google

> >>>>> search box:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> download "ntfsdos.exe"

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I got more than 3000 hits, including this one:

> >>>>> http://home.att.net/~short.stop/freesoft/disk1.htm

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "Karl Snooks" <wieso@hushmail.com> wrote in message

> >>>>> news:ugpOQircIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>> Pegasus,

> >>>>>> went to http://www.sysinternals.com but did not find NTFSDOS. How do I

> >>>>>> find?

> >>>>>> karl snooks

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> >>>>>> news:%23lOJrgocIHA.3788@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "Ricoy-Chicago" <RicoyChicago@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> >>>>>>> message news:AAB7A542-BB02-4798-A94F-B0C065DF0300@microsoft.com...

> >>>>>>>> Hope some one can help me... On my newer computer (win XP), the

> >>>>>>>> motherboard

> >>>>>>>> went bad, i removed the HD (ATA) "hard drive X" and installed on

my

> >>>>>>>> older

> >>>>>>>> computer (Win Me). I set the jumpers for master and slave. "Win

Me"

> >>>>>>>> computer

> >>>>>>>> has an ATA HD also "hard drive y". Cables are Ok, BIOS , POST

and,

> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Win Manager recognizes both HD BUT NOT Windows

Explorer...

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> I made the Win XP "hard drive X' the master and I can start

Windows

> >>>>>>>> XP but then i have to validate windows, I can't because it is a

> >>>>>>>> different computer...

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> All I want is my music, photos and videos stored in the "hard

drive

> >>>>>>>> X".

> >>>>>>>> Is there a way I can do it using some copying software ... maybe?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Yes, you can, by installing NTFSDOS from http://www.sysinternals.com

> >>>>>>> or by installing the disk in some other Win2000/XP PC.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> After recovering from this disaster, think about your backup

> >>>>>>> strategy. Good computing practice says that important files

> >>>>>>> must never reside on just one single medium. Many people

> >>>>>>> ignore this rule until they suffer a major hit. A 2.5" disk in an

> >>>>>>> external USB case would be a low cost but highly effective

> >>>>>>> backup medium.

>

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