"Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

[Guest witan]

Does anybody in this group have experience using Clonezilla. A friend

suggested it to me, and he thinks highly of it. The info in the Web

site http://clonezilla.sourceforge.net/ is impressive:

"Clonezilla live is suitable for single machine backup and restore.

While Clonezilla server edition is for massive deployment, it can

clone many (40 plus!) computers simultaneously."

It is free (GPL) Software.

"Filesystem supported: ext2, ext3, reiserfs, xfs, jfs of GNU/Linux,

and FAT, NTFS of MS Windows. Therefore you can clone GNU/Linux or MS

windows. For these file systems, only used blocks in partition are

saved and restored. For unsupported file system, sector-to-sector copy

is done by dd in Clonezilla....etc."

I shall be thankful for expert opinion.

[Guest Andrew E.]

RE: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

Why use 3rd party software when xp can clone/mirror hds by using XCOPY.

Always works..Also,as far as backup/restore,xp has restore,& backup.However

backup software isnt worth having,one can be backing up corrupted software.

The best "backup" to use,open FTW from xp cd,set as old pc,select

files/settings/

data to save,save to new folder,once thru,move to cd.This way,if xp was to be

corrupted,or hardware failure,a new clean install is best,then run FTW to

install

user settings as it was..Also,most "server software" is never free..

 

"witan" wrote:

> Does anybody in this group have experience using Clonezilla. A friend

> suggested it to me, and he thinks highly of it. The info in the Web

> site http://clonezilla.sourceforge.net/ is impressive:

> "Clonezilla live is suitable for single machine backup and restore.

> While Clonezilla server edition is for massive deployment, it can

> clone many (40 plus!) computers simultaneously."

> It is free (GPL) Software.

> "Filesystem supported: ext2, ext3, reiserfs, xfs, jfs of GNU/Linux,

> and FAT, NTFS of MS Windows. Therefore you can clone GNU/Linux or MS

> windows. For these file systems, only used blocks in partition are

> saved and restored. For unsupported file system, sector-to-sector copy

> is done by dd in Clonezilla....etc."

> I shall be thankful for expert opinion.

>

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

Andrew E. <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote:

> Why use 3rd party software when xp can clone/mirror hds by using XCOPY.

 

Anyone who uses XCOPY for either of those jobs is a moron.

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

 

"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Andrew E. <eckrichco@msn.com> wrote:

>

>> Why use 3rd party software when xp can clone/mirror hds by using XCOPY.

>

> Anyone who uses XCOPY for either of those jobs is a moron.

 

Why?

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

"Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>> Anyone who uses XCOPY for either of those jobs is a moron.

>

>Why?

 

Surely, you jest. Or are you a geek who is unable to let go of

something that was once the only good tool to use - like in DOS 5.0?

 

Because it's kludgey, because it lacks the ability to easily restore

-especially at the file level - as does Acronis True Image, etc. etc.

 

Note that the person I was replying to also promoted XCOPY as a useful

tool to image a disk... which is completely wrong.

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

 

"Uncle Grumpy" <unclegrumpy@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>

>>> Anyone who uses XCOPY for either of those jobs is a moron.

>>

>>Why?

>

> Surely, you jest. Or are you a geek who is unable to let go of

> something that was once the only good tool to use - like in DOS 5.0?

>

> Because it's kludgey, because it lacks the ability to easily restore

> -especially at the file level - as does Acronis True Image, etc. etc.

>

> Note that the person I was replying to also promoted XCOPY as a useful

> tool to image a disk... which is completely wrong.

 

Not quite. There are at least two methods that make use of xcopy.exe

to create a bootable copy of a Windows partition:

- Boot the machine with a Bart PE CD, or

- Connect the source and the target disks as slave disks to some

other Windows XP PC.

 

Disk imaging programs are, of course, much easier to use. However,

if Andrew E. knows his trade then he can easily do it with xcopy or

even better with robocopy. You may have been off-target with

your name-calling reply.

[Guest PD]

Re: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

On Feb 19, 3:23 pm, "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:

> "Uncle Grumpy" <unclegru...@comcast.net> wrote

> >>> Anyone who uses XCOPY for either of those jobs is a moron.

>

> >>Why?

>

> > Surely, you jest.  Or are you a geek who is unable to let go of

> > something that was once the only good tool to use - like in DOS 5.0?

>

> > Because it's kludgey, because it lacks the ability to easily restore

> > -especially at the file level - as does Acronis True Image, etc. etc.

>

> > Note that the person I was replying to also promoted XCOPY as a useful

> > tool to image a disk... which is completely wrong.

>

> Not quite. There are at least two methods that make use of xcopy.exe

> to create a bootable copy of a Windows partition:

> - Boot the machine with a Bart PE CD, or

> - Connect the source and the target disks as slave disks to some

>   other Windows XP PC.

>

> Disk imaging programs are, of course, much easier to use.

 

Thank you.

 

MOST folks asking for help here are NOT GEEKS.

 

It would be advisable to use the K.I.S.S. method when replying to

them.

 

I stand by my original comment.

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

"Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>You may have been off-target with

>your name-calling reply.

 

I don't think so. The person I replied to was NOT the OP, a person

with much less knowledge.

 

Your reply was to the name-calling, not to the OP's problem.

 

Stop yourself.

[Guest witan]

Re: "Clonezilla" (GPL software) for cloning systems

 

On Feb 20, 3:03 am, Uncle Grumpy <unclegru...@comcast.net> wrote:

> "Pegasus \(MVP\)" <I....@fly.com.oz> wrote:

> >You may have been off-target with

> >your name-calling reply.

>

> I don't think so.  The person I replied to was NOT the OP, a person

> with much less knowledge.

>

> Your reply was to the name-calling, not to the OP's problem.

>

> Stop yourself.

 

To "Keep It Short and Simple" (I presume this is what PD meant by

K.I.S.S., not the other variants), what I wanted was advice on using

Clonezilla for *cloning* my Windows-XP system drive. I thought this

was clear from the Subject line of my post.

XCopy wil not serve my purpose, and I think Uncle Grumpy is right.

Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost will do, but Clonezilla is FREE,

and, moreover, one can make a bootable CD with Clonezilla on it and

use it for cloning. IOW, it is not necessary to have Clonezilla on

one's hard drive. I have already downloaded Clonezilla Live and made a

bootable CD.

Clonezilla is said to be based on Debian Linux. My experience with

Linux systems is very limited, although I am using a dual-booting

machine with Mandriva 10.1 and Windows-XP Pro. Therefore, before I try

to clone my Windows system with Clonezilla, I'd appreciate advice

from anyone who has successfully used Clonezilla for cloning.