Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

[Guest kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com]

Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

[Guest Nepatsfan]

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Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

<kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

 

 

Not including a warning that SP3 shouldn't be installed on a production machine

is irresponsible. Just FYI.

 

Nepatsfan

[Guest VanguardLH]

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Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

<kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

 

 

Release Candidate

Microsoft's way to hide that it is still just another BETA release.

Enjoy the voluntary beta testing.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

The download details page does that.

 

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

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> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eTzaniBdIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

>

>

> Not including a warning that SP3 shouldn't be installed on a production

> machine is irresponsible. Just FYI.

>

> Nepatsfan

>

[Guest Nepatsfan]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Colin,

 

With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed

enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on

these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.

Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're

correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,

it's a weak one.

 

I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and

installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the

OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his

contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.

 

Nepatsfan

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> The download details page does that.

>

> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

> news:enVpj3BdIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:eTzaniBdIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

>>

>>

>> Not including a warning that SP3 shouldn't be installed on a production

>> machine is irresponsible. Just FYI.

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

>

[Guest David H. Lipman]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

From: "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com>

 

| Colin,

|

| With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed

| enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on

| these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.

| Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're

| correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,

| it's a weak one.

|

| I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and

| installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the

| OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his

| contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.

|

| Nepatsfan

|

 

You are NOT wrong and your assertion of him in m.p.w.v.g is correct.

Many of his OT posts are removed daily.

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

All I said was Microsoft puts the appropriate disclaimers on the Downloads

Details pages. Don't overreact either.

 

"Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

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> Colin,

>

> With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be

> stressed enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users

> looking for help on these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate"

> and "Beta software" mean. Neither the OP or the web site he posted make

> mention of this fact. While you're correct that the instructions section

> of the download site includes a warning, it's a weak one.

>

> I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice

> and installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you

> think the OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out

> some of his contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.

>

> Nepatsfan

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:2E46B68F-166C-4DC8-841C-C67AD722A9E3@microsoft.com...

>> The download details page does that.

>>

>> "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote in message

>> news:enVpj3BdIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eTzaniBdIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>> http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

>>>

>>>

>>> Not including a warning that SP3 shouldn't be installed on a production

>>> machine is irresponsible. Just FYI.

>>>

>>> Nepatsfan

>>>

>>

>

>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Kev is well known.

 

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message

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> From: "Nepatsfan" <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com>

>

> | Colin,

> |

> | With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be

> stressed

> | enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for

> help on

> | these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta

> software" mean.

> | Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact.

> While you're

> | correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a

> warning,

> | it's a weak one.

> |

> | I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice

> and

> | installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you

> think the

> | OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of

> his

> | contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.

> |

> | Nepatsfan

> |

>

> You are NOT wrong and your assertion of him in m.p.w.v.g is correct.

> Many of his OT posts are removed daily.

>

> --

> Dave

> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

>

>

[Guest Tecknomage]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:35:33 -0500, "Nepatsfan"

<nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote:

> Colin,

>

> With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed

> enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on

> these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.

> Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're

> correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,

> it's a weak one.

>

> I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and

> installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the

> OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his

> contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.

>

> Nepatsfan

>

 

MAY BE OFF TOPIC:

 

We OEM WinXP where I work. The latest WinXP OEM package is "WinXP

SP2c" previously it was "SP2b." The OEM (OPK notification) Program

sent a notice that when using "SP2c" package you had to redo the OEM

install image.

 

I wonder if the SP2c is equivalent to SP3 or just SP2 with all updates

included. Anyone know?

 

 

 

--

======== Tecknomage ========

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San Diego, CA

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

SP3 contains changes to some functionalities and a few new functionalities

(mostly networking ) that are not addressed in any SP2x. The best way to

assess this is to review the white paper on what is new (not covered by just

being up to date with WU):

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=68C48DAD-BC34-40BE-8D85-6BB4F56F5110&displaylang=en

 

"Tecknomage" <tecknode@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:35:33 -0500, "Nepatsfan"

> <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote:

>

>> Colin,

>>

>> With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be

>> stressed

>> enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for

>> help on

>> these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta

>> software" mean.

>> Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While

>> you're

>> correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a

>> warning,

>> it's a weak one.

>>

>> I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice

>> and

>> installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you

>> think the

>> OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of

>> his

>> contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

>

> MAY BE OFF TOPIC:

>

> We OEM WinXP where I work. The latest WinXP OEM package is "WinXP

> SP2c" previously it was "SP2b." The OEM (OPK notification) Program

> sent a notice that when using "SP2c" package you had to redo the OEM

> install image.

>

> I wonder if the SP2c is equivalent to SP3 or just SP2 with all updates

> included. Anyone know?

>

>

>

> --

> ======== Tecknomage ========

> Computer Systems Specialist

> San Diego, CA

[Guest David H. Lipman]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

From: "Tecknomage" <tecknode@NOSPAM.com>

 

| On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:35:33 -0500, "Nepatsfan"

| <nepatsfan@SBXXXIX.com> wrote:

|

>> Colin,

>>

>> With all due respect, I stand by my original response. It cannot be stressed

>> enough that SP3 is not a finished product. Many of the users looking for help on

>> these newsgroups have no idea what "Release Candidate" and "Beta software" mean.

>> Neither the OP or the web site he posted make mention of this fact. While you're

>> correct that the instructions section of the download site includes a warning,

>> it's a weak one.

>>

>> I may be wrong, but it's my opinion that someone taking the OP's advice and

>> installing SP3 will end up with their main computer hosed. And if you think the

>> OP will be around to help them get back in business, check out some of his

>> contributions to the Vista General newsgroup.

>>

>> Nepatsfan

>>

| MAY BE OFF TOPIC:

|

| We OEM WinXP where I work. The latest WinXP OEM package is "WinXP

| SP2c" previously it was "SP2b." The OEM (OPK notification) Program

| sent a notice that when using "SP2c" package you had to redo the OEM

| install image.

|

| I wonder if the SP2c is equivalent to SP3 or just SP2 with all updates

| included. Anyone know?

|

 

Updates, HotFixes, were slip-streamed into the SP2 build.

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

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[Guest PaulMaudib]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:31:01 -0600, <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com>

wrote:

>http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

 

So?

 

This is BETA software. Discussing it is off topic here, so please

take this crap elsewhere

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

This is an XP General newsgroup. Discussions are not OT. The sniping that

goes on here is what is OT.

 

"PaulMaudib" <none@none.net> wrote in message

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> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:31:01 -0600, <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

>>http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

>

> So?

>

> This is BETA software. Discussing it is off topic here, so please

> take this crap elsewhere

>

[Guest Tecknomage]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:11:25 -0600, PaulMaudib <none@none.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:31:01 -0600, <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com>

> wrote:

>

> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

>

> So?

>

> This is BETA software. Discussing it is off topic here, so please

> take this crap elsewhere

 

 

Yes RC = Release Candidate = BETA

 

From the "Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 2" page,

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114f3599-12af-42b2-aab1-b969a62c68a7&DisplayLang=en

 

"Please visit the Windows XP SP3 TechCenter to provide feedback on

this beta release."

 

Also: "Windows XP Service Pack 3 will be offered on Windows Update

when Service Pack 3 releases in the first half of 2008."

 

 

You may want to download the SP3 Overview PDF from this page:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en

 

 

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======== Tecknomage ========

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San Diego, CA

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

No, RC=Release Candidate=Pre-Release software but not all pre-release

software is still in beta stage. You are using "beta" as a perjorative.

There is no need to do that.

 

"Tecknomage" <tecknode@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:11:25 -0600, PaulMaudib <none@none.net> wrote:

>

>> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:31:01 -0600, <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com>

>> wrote:

>>

>> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

>>

>> So?

>>

>> This is BETA software. Discussing it is off topic here, so please

>> take this crap elsewhere

>

>

> Yes RC = Release Candidate = BETA

>

> From the "Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 2" page,

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114f3599-12af-42b2-aab1-b969a62c68a7&DisplayLang=en

>

> "Please visit the Windows XP SP3 TechCenter to provide feedback on

> this beta release."

>

> Also: "Windows XP Service Pack 3 will be offered on Windows Update

> when Service Pack 3 releases in the first half of 2008."

>

>

> You may want to download the SP3 Overview PDF from this page:

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en

>

>

> --

> ======== Tecknomage ========

> Computer Systems Specialist

> San Diego, CA

[Guest Tecknomage]

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

Re: Release Candidate 2 For Windows XP Service Pack 3 Is Now Available 2 The General Public.

 

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:00:58 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

> No, RC=Release Candidate=Pre-Release software but not all pre-release

> software is still in beta stage. You are using "beta" as a perjorative.

> There is no need to do that.

>

 

Did you note the exact quote from the download page. I copy-pasted the

phrase. It is Microsoft calling RC a BETA.

 

They do NOT call the download "RC2 BETA" which would be consistent

with your interpretation.

 

 

> "Tecknomage" <tecknode@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message

> news:0kdtr39hnfpfoagmt35gs0b2ourb6h71j3@4ax.com...

> > On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:11:25 -0600, PaulMaudib <none@none.net> wrote:

> >

> >> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:31:01 -0600, <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com>

> >> wrote:

> >>

> >> >http://www.neowin.net/news/main/08/02/20/windows-xp-sp3-release-candidate-2-via-windows-update

> >>

> >> So?

> >>

> >> This is BETA software. Discussing it is off topic here, so please

> >> take this crap elsewhere

> >

> >

> > Yes RC = Release Candidate = BETA

> >

> > From the "Windows XP Service Pack 3 Release Candidate 2" page,

> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114f3599-12af-42b2-aab1-b969a62c68a7&DisplayLang=en

> >

> > "Please visit the Windows XP SP3 TechCenter to provide feedback on

> > this beta release."

> >

> > Also: "Windows XP Service Pack 3 will be offered on Windows Update

> > when Service Pack 3 releases in the first half of 2008."

> >

> >

> > You may want to download the SP3 Overview PDF from this page:

> > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&DisplayLang=en

> >

> >

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> > Computer Systems Specialist

> > San Diego, CA

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