win98 updates still available???

[Guest mr_unreliable]

hi Group,

 

I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

app installations and de-installations that my registry

and hard drive have become a mess.

 

In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

are still available?

 

I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

at least up until the end of 2006.

 

Does anybody know if they are still available???

 

thanks in advance for any help, jw

[Guest John Dulak]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

mr_unreliable wrote:

> hi Group,

>

> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

> app installations and de-installations that my registry

> and hard drive have become a mess.

>

> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

> are still available?

>

> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

> at least up until the end of 2006.

>

> Does anybody know if they are still available???

>

> thanks in advance for any help, jw

>

>

 

JW:

 

Yes. Updates are available IF you use Internet Explorer 6 to access

the update site. I did this a few weeks ago and it worked fine.

 

You can get IE 6 sp1 here:

 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e1550cb-5e5d-48f5-b02b-20b602228de6&displaylang=en

 

HTH & GL

 

John

 

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[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

Yes.

 

1. Install IE6 SP1.

 

2. Go to http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com and install all critical updates

offered.

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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

 

mr_unreliable wrote:

> hi Group,

>

> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

> app installations and de-installations that my registry

> and hard drive have become a mess.

>

> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

> are still available?

>

> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

> at least up until the end of 2006.

>

> Does anybody know if they are still available???

>

> thanks in advance for any help, jw

[Guest Roger Fink]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

Please note that I'm not vouching for this - never used it - only mentioning

it because it exists:

http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/cPath/40/products_id/270

http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

 

mr_unreliable wrote:

> hi Group,

>

> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

> app installations and de-installations that my registry

> and hard drive have become a mess.

>

> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

> are still available?

>

> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

> at least up until the end of 2006.

>

> Does anybody know if they are still available???

>

> thanks in advance for any help, jw

[Guest mm]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable

<kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:

>hi Group,

>

>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

>app installations and de-installations that my registry

>and hard drive have become a mess.

 

What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC

regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which

is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use

one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the

registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that

it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision

whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The

one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final

approval.

 

As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes

with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use

their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget

what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.

(Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more

work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as

recommeneded)

 

I don't buy a new version of norton utilities very often, just because

they package one. You can get them second hand now at flea markets

for cheap.

 

The package still includes the original dos utilities too, such as

diskedit, which allows you, if you can manage to find the program or

data you are looking for, to make any change you want at almost any

point on the HD you want.

 

There are also two file compare programs iirc, fc.exe and the windows

thing. One only compares certain kinds of files but I think it is the

dos one that compares any two files. And they're smart enough that

just inserting an extra bite or many bytes in one of them doesn't mean

it will think every pair of bytes that follow don't match.

 

These dos utilities are in the directory, but not referenced by the

windows interface.

>

>In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

>has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

>are still available?

>

>I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

>microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

>at least up until the end of 2006.

>

>Does anybody know if they are still available???

>

>thanks in advance for any help, jw

>

 

 

If you are inclined to email me

for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable

> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:

>

>>hi Group,

>>

>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

>>app installations and de-installations that my registry

>>and hard drive have become a mess.

>

> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC

> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which

> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use

> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the

> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that

> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision

> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The

> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final

> approval.

 

Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is very ill

advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be safely

removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.

>

> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes

> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use

> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget

> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.

> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more

> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as

> recommeneded)

 

Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption, missing entries,

invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.

 

 

--

 

 

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[Guest mm]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:03:01 -0600, "Brian A."

<gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:

>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

>news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...

>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable

>> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:

>>

>>>hi Group,

>>>

>>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

>>>app installations and de-installations that my registry

>>>and hard drive have become a mess.

>>

>> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC

>> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which

>> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use

>> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the

>> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that

>> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision

>> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The

>> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final

>> approval.

>

> Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is very ill

>advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be safely

>removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.

 

Have you used Regclean**. While I was reluctant to delete things,

after studying its recommendations of various sorts, I don't think it

suggested removing anything that couldn't safely be removed.

 

**I think that is the one that is highly praised. Or maybe they both

are. Any reference below to one of them is subject to the OP's

verification of which is the highly praised one.

 

He could at least run the thing and see how many entries are

recommended for removal. Maybe there won't be as many as he expects

(although there were far more than I anticipated). Then he could

discuss them here or elsewhere, and thereby learn what could safely be

removed, and any that couldn't. How is he going to learn if he

doesn't try? Should he be forever a newbie?

 

For example, most lines in the registry that still point to files that

have been deleted can also be deleted. When would that not be true?

 

If you still disapprove of this, have YOU any suggestions for cleaning

up his registry?

 

Reinstalling Windows doesn't do anything for the registry afaik.

>> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes

>> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use

>> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget

>> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.

>> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more

>> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as

>> recommeneded)

>

> Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption, missing entries,

>invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.

 

I didn't say anything about that. I only referred to the Norton

version of defrag. It's called Speed Disk. Do you have objections to

using Speed Disk?

 

It might also be worth running System Check, WinDoctor, and Disk

Doctor in diagnosis mode only, and seeing what it says. One can learn

a lot about the way Windows works just by looking at the WinDoctor

complaints. One doesn't have to be brilliant to appreciate the

meaning of some of them.

 

Of course he should back up his harddrive periodically, such as just

before making any changes recommended by Regclean, and just before

making any changes with each and any one of the Norton utilities. And

he should allow a week or so to go buy between running each of these,

so if he causes any problem, he'll know which set of changes he made

caused them. But all that is a given.

 

If you are inclined to email me

for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

[Guest Brian A.]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

news:gg62s35v0h13nht499a17vek6fitir1bmo@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:03:01 -0600, "Brian A."

> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:

>

>>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

>>news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...

>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable

>>> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>>hi Group,

>>>>

>>>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

>>>>app installations and de-installations that my registry

>>>>and hard drive have become a mess.

>>>

>>> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC

>>> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which

>>> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use

>>> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the

>>> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that

>>> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision

>>> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The

>>> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final

>>> approval.

>>

>> Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is very ill

>>advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be safely

>>removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.

>

> Have you used Regclean**. While I was reluctant to delete things,

> after studying its recommendations of various sorts, I don't think it

> suggested removing anything that couldn't safely be removed.

 

I have tested a gauntlet of registry editing and monitoring utilities including the

ones you mention. I stand pat on my thoughts that any user not versed in the

registry, removal of hives/keys and the consequences involved, stay away from it

unless they have the assistance of one that is versed.

 

Your statement alone "I don't think it suggested removing anything that couldn't

safely be removed" hardens my thoughts. Unless a user knows 100% that removal is not

going to cause any issues, that takes it back to user beware of what can, does and

eventially will happen once the delete is executed.

>

> **I think that is the one that is highly praised. Or maybe they both

> are. Any reference below to one of them is subject to the OP's

> verification of which is the highly praised one.

>

> He could at least run the thing and see how many entries are

> recommended for removal. Maybe there won't be as many as he expects

> (although there were far more than I anticipated). Then he could

> discuss them here or elsewhere, and thereby learn what could safely be

> removed, and any that couldn't. How is he going to learn if he

> doesn't try? Should he be forever a newbie?

 

If a user not versed chooses to delve into "cleaning" the registry without the

assistance of another that is versed and a hive/key is removed that shouldn't have

been, they'll have plenty of work on their hands so they won't be a forever newbie.

>

> For example, most lines in the registry that still point to files that

> have been deleted can also be deleted. When would that not be true?

 

If the file happens to be a shared file which other apps/programs use. Have you

been in dll hell before? It's not a pretty sight.

>

> If you still disapprove of this, have YOU any suggestions for cleaning

> up his registry?

 

Yes I do and No I don't. I can't suggest other than don't do it on such a crucial

OS element that I can't see.

>

> Reinstalling Windows doesn't do anything for the registry afaik.

>

>>> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes

>>> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use

>>> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget

>>> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.

>>> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more

>>> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as

>>> recommeneded)

>>

>> Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption, missing entries,

>>invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.

>

> I didn't say anything about that. I only referred to the Norton

> version of defrag. It's called Speed Disk. Do you have objections to

> using Speed Disk?

 

I have in the past and still at present use a few Symantec products, Norton

Utilities isn't and never will be one of them.

>

> It might also be worth running System Check, WinDoctor, and Disk

> Doctor in diagnosis mode only, and seeing what it says. One can learn

> a lot about the way Windows works just by looking at the WinDoctor

> complaints. One doesn't have to be brilliant to appreciate the

> meaning of some of them.

>

> Of course he should back up his harddrive periodically, such as just

> before making any changes recommended by Regclean, and just before

> making any changes with each and any one of the Norton utilities. And

> he should allow a week or so to go buy between running each of these,

> so if he causes any problem, he'll know which set of changes he made

> caused them. But all that is a given.

>

> If you are inclined to email me

> for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

 

 

--

 

 

Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

[Guest RJK]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

Quite right too !

 

I can't find the post now but, someone recently asked about IOLO's ..or

something like that, "Registry Mechanic," so just for fun I gave it a

whirl, ...my rating = same as almost alll of them - VERY POOR !

....apparantly it got a rave review in a magazine somewhere - I wonder why,

.....I wonder who got the back-hander !

 

regards, Richard

 

 

"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message

news:%23MZ5ZjsdIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> "mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

> news:gg62s35v0h13nht499a17vek6fitir1bmo@4ax.com...

>> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 01:03:01 -0600, "Brian A."

>> <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote:

>>

>>>"mm" <NOPSAMmm2005@bigfoot.com> wrote in message

>>>news:kf22s31jdfma8sd9r6rb6hvibfvla5702t@4ax.com...

>>>> On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:52:59 -0500, mr_unreliable

>>>> <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>>hi Group,

>>>>>

>>>>>I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

>>>>>app installations and de-installations that my registry

>>>>>and hard drive have become a mess.

>>>>

>>>> What about regcleaner and similar products for the registry. IIRC

>>>> regclean or regcleaner (both exist, I forget which one I had and which

>>>> is most recommended) come with great recommendations and I used to use

>>>> one of them, but I forget which. One thing it does is go through the

>>>> registry checking to see whether the files (including programs) that

>>>> it refers to actually exist on your hd. Then gives you the decision

>>>> whether to delete what I guess must be meaningless references. The

>>>> one I'm referring to does other things too, but all require your final

>>>> approval.

>>>

>>> Any type of registry cleaning, be it manually or using a utility, is

>>> very ill

>>>advised to perform by anyone that isn't well versed in what can/cannot be

>>>safely

>>>removed and any/all consequences by removing registry entries.

>>

>> Have you used Regclean**. While I was reluctant to delete things,

>> after studying its recommendations of various sorts, I don't think it

>> suggested removing anything that couldn't safely be removed.

>

> I have tested a gauntlet of registry editing and monitoring utilities

> including the ones you mention. I stand pat on my thoughts that any user

> not versed in the registry, removal of hives/keys and the consequences

> involved, stay away from it unless they have the assistance of one that is

> versed.

>

> Your statement alone "I don't think it suggested removing anything that

> couldn't safely be removed" hardens my thoughts. Unless a user knows 100%

> that removal is not going to cause any issues, that takes it back to user

> beware of what can, does and eventially will happen once the delete is

> executed.

>

>>

>> **I think that is the one that is highly praised. Or maybe they both

>> are. Any reference below to one of them is subject to the OP's

>> verification of which is the highly praised one.

>>

>> He could at least run the thing and see how many entries are

>> recommended for removal. Maybe there won't be as many as he expects

>> (although there were far more than I anticipated). Then he could

>> discuss them here or elsewhere, and thereby learn what could safely be

>> removed, and any that couldn't. How is he going to learn if he

>> doesn't try? Should he be forever a newbie?

>

> If a user not versed chooses to delve into "cleaning" the registry

> without the assistance of another that is versed and a hive/key is removed

> that shouldn't have been, they'll have plenty of work on their hands so

> they won't be a forever newbie.

>

>>

>> For example, most lines in the registry that still point to files that

>> have been deleted can also be deleted. When would that not be true?

>

> If the file happens to be a shared file which other apps/programs use.

> Have you been in dll hell before? It's not a pretty sight.

>

>>

>> If you still disapprove of this, have YOU any suggestions for cleaning

>> up his registry?

>

> Yes I do and No I don't. I can't suggest other than don't do it on such

> a crucial OS element that I can't see.

>

>>

>> Reinstalling Windows doesn't do anything for the registry afaik.

>>

>>>> As to your harddrive, how much of a mess can that be? Defrag comes

>>>> with win98 dos iirc, but I usually install norton utilities and use

>>>> their fancier version of defrag, with a colored map etc. I forget

>>>> what it is called, but ofthe utilities, it's clear which one it is.

>>>> (Although it seems to me that running it too often, it will find more

>>>> work to do, needless work, than running it occasionally as

>>>> recommeneded)

>>>

>>> Any use of Norton Utilities to check the OS for file corruption,

>>> missing entries,

>>>invalid paths, etc. is nothing short of a train wreck in the making.

>>

>> I didn't say anything about that. I only referred to the Norton

>> version of defrag. It's called Speed Disk. Do you have objections to

>> using Speed Disk?

>

> I have in the past and still at present use a few Symantec products,

> Norton Utilities isn't and never will be one of them.

>

>>

>> It might also be worth running System Check, WinDoctor, and Disk

>> Doctor in diagnosis mode only, and seeing what it says. One can learn

>> a lot about the way Windows works just by looking at the WinDoctor

>> complaints. One doesn't have to be brilliant to appreciate the

>> meaning of some of them.

>>

>> Of course he should back up his harddrive periodically, such as just

>> before making any changes recommended by Regclean, and just before

>> making any changes with each and any one of the Norton utilities. And

>> he should allow a week or so to go buy between running each of these,

>> so if he causes any problem, he'll know which set of changes he made

>> caused them. But all that is a given.

>>

>> If you are inclined to email me

>> for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)

>

>

> --

>

>

> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

> Conflicts start where information lacks.

> http://basconotw.mvps.org/

>

> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

>

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as much as

Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD put

out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that previous

Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing. Email

updates_at_grystmill.com

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message

news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> hi Group,

>

> I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

> app installations and de-installations that my registry

> and hard drive have become a mess.

>

> In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

> has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

> are still available?

>

> I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

> microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

> at least up until the end of 2006.

>

> Does anybody know if they are still available???

>

> thanks in advance for any help, jw

>

>

[Guest MEB]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

 

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:ea8%23AxLfIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as much as

| Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD

put

| out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that

previous

| Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing. Email

| updates_at_grystmill.com

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

 

Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.

 

I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my testing

environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential creation of

a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after using

the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from the

catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as example] was

tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.

 

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm - Manual

updates installation of 98SE after Security CD

 

--

 

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

_________

 

 

|

| "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message

| news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > hi Group,

| >

| > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

| > app installations and de-installations that my registry

| > and hard drive have become a mess.

| >

| > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

| > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

| > are still available?

| >

| > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

| > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

| > at least up until the end of 2006.

| >

| > Does anybody know if they are still available???

| >

| > thanks in advance for any help, jw

| >

| >

|

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

Well, without actually going through everything, yes, it looks about the

same. I did this back in March and have been pretty public about it. I'm

surprised that you're surprised.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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> | I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as much

> as

> | Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates CD

> put

> | out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that

> previous

> | Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing.

> Email

> | updates_at_grystmill.com

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

>

> Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.

>

> I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my

> testing

> environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential creation

> of

> a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after

> using

> the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from the

> catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as example]

> was

> tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.

>

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm -

> Manual

> updates installation of 98SE after Security CD

>

> --

>

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> _________

>

>

> |

> | "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > hi Group,

> | >

> | > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

> | > app installations and de-installations that my registry

> | > and hard drive have become a mess.

> | >

> | > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

> | > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

> | > are still available?

> | >

> | > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

> | > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

> | > at least up until the end of 2006.

> | >

> | > Does anybody know if they are still available???

> | >

> | > thanks in advance for any help, jw

> | >

> | >

> |

>

>

[Guest MEB]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

Well, perhaps I mis-understood, though more likely forgot ... anyway, I

guess this aspect is covered then. Oh I was going to add a link to your site

or your mail request link, but hadn't seen you much to ask if you wanted one

and whether you intend to continue producing these CDs for the foreseeable

future...

 

I'm thinking about doing a few more, such as without the SecCD, without

IE6 - these with links to Microsoft Downloads or offsite links if necessary;

and one from 2004-10/2005 for historical reference [a 96k iuhist] or perhaps

purists. Anyone done these yet that you know of?

 

--

 

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

_________

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

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| Well, without actually going through everything, yes, it looks about the

| same. I did this back in March and have been pretty public about it. I'm

| surprised that you're surprised.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:eDOXrFNfIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| >

| >

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:ea8%23AxLfIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as

much

| > as

| > | Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security Updates

CD

| > put

| > | out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that

| > previous

| > | Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing.

| > Email

| > | updates_at_grystmill.com

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | http://www.grystmill.com

| >

| > Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.

| >

| > I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my

| > testing

| > environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential

creation

| > of

| > a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after

| > using

| > the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from

the

| > catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as example]

| > was

| > tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.

| >

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm -

| > Manual

| > updates installation of 98SE after Security CD

| >

| > --

| >

| > MEB

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > _________

| >

| >

| > |

| > | "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > hi Group,

| > | >

| > | > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

| > | > app installations and de-installations that my registry

| > | > and hard drive have become a mess.

| > | >

| > | > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

| > | > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

| > | > are still available?

| > | >

| > | > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

| > | > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

| > | > at least up until the end of 2006.

| > | >

| > | > Does anybody know if they are still available???

| > | >

| > | > thanks in advance for any help, jw

| > | >

| > | >

| > |

| >

| >

|

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

I figure on maintaining for as long as I can. Yes, others have done other

things. Unofficial SP2, etc.

 

Link if you want to.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%238RdK9UfIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Well, perhaps I mis-understood, though more likely forgot ... anyway, I

> guess this aspect is covered then. Oh I was going to add a link to your

> site

> or your mail request link, but hadn't seen you much to ask if you wanted

> one

> and whether you intend to continue producing these CDs for the foreseeable

> future...

>

> I'm thinking about doing a few more, such as without the SecCD, without

> IE6 - these with links to Microsoft Downloads or offsite links if

> necessary;

> and one from 2004-10/2005 for historical reference [a 96k iuhist] or

> perhaps

> purists. Anyone done these yet that you know of?

>

> --

>

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> _________

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:umtjAEUfIHA.4144@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | Well, without actually going through everything, yes, it looks about the

> | same. I did this back in March and have been pretty public about it. I'm

> | surprised that you're surprised.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:eDOXrFNfIHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | >

> | >

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:ea8%23AxLfIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | I have a set of CDs that fully updates Windows 98, 98SE and ME (as

> much

> | > as

> | > | Windows Updates will do so.) One CD is the Feb. 2004 Security

> Updates

> CD

> | > put

> | > | out my MS. The other CD contains the rest of the updates since that

> | > previous

> | > | Updates CD, along with descriptions and instructions for installing.

> | > Email

> | > | updates_at_grystmill.com

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | >

> | > Hope this isn't what you've already done in that *updates since* CD.

> | >

> | > I went through this last iuhist.xml created with this version of my

> | > testing

> | > environment, and put it into proper order and form for potential

> creation

> | > of

> | > a batch file to install the *presently offered* critical updates after

> | > using

> | > the Security CD, IF you have them locally [such as that CDROM or from

> the

> | > catalog]. Might be a good companion. Batch mode [using this as

> example]

> | > was

> | > tested, using pauses and final Windows.shut down/restart.

> | >

> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/windows/inst_order_CD.htm -

> | > Manual

> | > updates installation of 98SE after Security CD

> | >

> | > --

> | >

> | > MEB

> | > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > _________

> | >

> | >

> | > |

> | > | "mr_unreliable" <kindlyReplyToNewsgroup@notmail.com> wrote in

> message

> | > | news:uJQTUlKdIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > hi Group,

> | > | >

> | > | > I am still a win98se fan, but have gone thhrough so many

> | > | > app installations and de-installations that my registry

> | > | > and hard drive have become a mess.

> | > | >

> | > | > In the past, I just re-installed win98. But since support

> | > | > has been dropped, I am curious whether the microsoft updates

> | > | > are still available?

> | > | >

> | > | > I searched through the archives of this ng, and evidently

> | > | > microsoft was still making the win98 updates available --

> | > | > at least up until the end of 2006.

> | > | >

> | > | > Does anybody know if they are still available???

> | > | >

> | > | > thanks in advance for any help, jw

> | > | >

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> | >

> |

>

>

[Guest mike]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

Gary S. Terhune wrote:

> I figure on maintaining for as long as I can. Yes, others have done

> other things. Unofficial SP2, etc.

>

> Link if you want to.

>

Win98SE with the unofficial SP2 and universal usb drivers works pretty well.

mike

 

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[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: win98 updates still available???

 

Far as I'm concerned, that "everything including the kitchen sink" approach

that the your particular unofficial SP2 uses sounds VERY iffy, but to each

his own.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"mike" <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Gary S. Terhune wrote:

>> I figure on maintaining for as long as I can. Yes, others have done other

>> things. Unofficial SP2, etc.

>>

>> Link if you want to.

>>

> Win98SE with the unofficial SP2 and universal usb drivers works pretty

> well.

> mike

>

> --

> Return address is VALID!