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Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)
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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

 

"Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> thx in advance from Russ

 

Yes, you can, but the method depends on your configuration.

Best to post full details of your disk structure.

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RE: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

 

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thx in advance from Russ

 

 

"Russ" wrote:

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> thx in advance from Russ I have several old work related programs which will not work on Xp, only older versions of Windows. I would like to put win Me or win 98 on my Xp computer as a backup os to use these programs. how would I do so? thx

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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

Russ wrote:

 

If you have the drivers for your hardware for Windows Me, yes.

 

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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

 

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thx in advance from Russ

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

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> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

> >

> > --

> > thx in advance from Russ

>

> Yes, you can, but the method depends on your configuration.

> Best to post full details of your disk structure.

>

>

> thx. I have XP home version on my computer now. I believe there are two partitions; one for the main drive C, OS, programs, etc and one for the XP restore.

 

I have a separate copy of win ME which I would like to put on a separate

partition on the HD to use only for specific older work programs that do not

work under XP. I have fat32 on the current system as well.

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)
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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

 

"Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> --

> thx in advance from Russ

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>>

>> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>> >

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>> > thx in advance from Russ

>>

>> Yes, you can, but the method depends on your configuration.

>> Best to post full details of your disk structure.

>>

>>

>> thx. I have XP home version on my computer now. I believe there are

>> two partitions; one for the main drive C, OS, programs, etc and one for

>> the XP restore.

>

> I have a separate copy of win ME which I would like to put on a separate

> partition on the HD to use only for specific older work programs that do

> not

> work under XP. I have fat32 on the current system as well.

 

Is your Windows XP system partition FAT32 or NTFS?

 

A simple way of doing what you want to do is to install WinME

in Microsoft's Virtual PC running under WinXP - see here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx

Guest Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more ram

than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC. Also, if

you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support running

Win9x/ME.

 

If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to switch

operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window on your

XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

 

"Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>

> --

> thx in advance from Russ

Guest Bill in Co.
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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

What's the drawback of using VPC (as compared to trying to install ME or 98

the regular way)? Just that you have to have enough memory to run both

apps?

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more

> ram

> than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC. Also,

> if

> you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support running

> Win9x/ME.

>

> If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to

> switch

> operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window on

> your

> XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

>

> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>>

>> --

>> thx in advance from Russ

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)
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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

Virtual PC would be slower, which is probably not an issue with

a fairly new PC.

 

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> What's the drawback of using VPC (as compared to trying to install ME or

> 98 the regular way)? Just that you have to have enough memory to run

> both apps?

>

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more

>> ram

>> than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC. Also,

>> if

>> you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support running

>> Win9x/ME.

>>

>> If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to

>> switch

>> operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window on

>> your

>> XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

>>

>> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>>>

>>> --

>>> thx in advance from Russ

>

>

Guest Bill in Co.
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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

I think I mentioned this before, but on the VPC web page, unless I've missed

it, nowhere does it say it will run on Win XP Home Edition.

 

But someone here (maybe you?) mentioned that it could and would. But it's

kinda strange they won't even state it there. (Maybe they don't want to

support it?)

 

 

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

> Virtual PC would be slower, which is probably not an issue with

> a fairly new PC.

>

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%23picjeydIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> What's the drawback of using VPC (as compared to trying to install ME or

>> 98 the regular way)? Just that you have to have enough memory to run

>> both apps?

>>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more

>>> ram

>>> than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC.

>>> Also,

>>> if

>>> you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support running

>>> Win9x/ME.

>>>

>>> If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to

>>> switch

>>> operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window on

>>> your

>>> XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

>>>

>>> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> thx in advance from Russ

Guest Colin Barnhorst
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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

It isn't. My ME vm is several times faster than on the computer I used to

run ME when ME was current.

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

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> Virtual PC would be slower, which is probably not an issue with

> a fairly new PC.

>

>

> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> news:%23picjeydIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> What's the drawback of using VPC (as compared to trying to install ME or

>> 98 the regular way)? Just that you have to have enough memory to run

>> both apps?

>>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more

>>> ram

>>> than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC.

>>> Also, if

>>> you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support running

>>> Win9x/ME.

>>>

>>> If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to

>>> switch

>>> operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window on

>>> your

>>> XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

>>>

>>> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> thx in advance from Russ

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst
Posted

Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

About the only time you would need to run ME natively is if there is a

specialized hardware device like a controller card for some industrial app

(cameras, milling machines, etc) or a dongle for a critical app.

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

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> What's the drawback of using VPC (as compared to trying to install ME or

> 98 the regular way)? Just that you have to have enough memory to run

> both apps?

>

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more

>> ram

>> than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC. Also,

>> if

>> you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support running

>> Win9x/ME.

>>

>> If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to

>> switch

>> operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window on

>> your

>> XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

>>

>> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>>>

>>> --

>>> thx in advance from Russ

>

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)
Posted

Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

By comparing WinME running on your new machine under

Virtual PC with WinME running on your old machine, you're

not comparing apples with apples. When run on one and

the same machine, a clean WinME installation will always

run faster than one running under Virtual PC. It won't have

to go through the various layers imposed by VPC.

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> It isn't. My ME vm is several times faster than on the computer I used to

> run ME when ME was current.

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:%23E1tGtydIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Virtual PC would be slower, which is probably not an issue with

>> a fairly new PC.

>>

>>

>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>> news:%23picjeydIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> What's the drawback of using VPC (as compared to trying to install ME or

>>> 98 the regular way)? Just that you have to have enough memory to run

>>> both apps?

>>>

>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more

>>>> ram

>>>> than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC.

>>>> Also, if

>>>> you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support running

>>>> Win9x/ME.

>>>>

>>>> If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to

>>>> switch

>>>> operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window on

>>>> your

>>>> XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

>>>>

>>>> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> thx in advance from Russ

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Bill in Co.
Posted

Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

That's what I would have expected, too.

 

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

> By comparing WinME running on your new machine under

> Virtual PC with WinME running on your old machine, you're

> not comparing apples with apples. When run on one and

> the same machine, a clean WinME installation will always

> run faster than one running under Virtual PC. It won't have

> to go through the various layers imposed by VPC.

>

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:1023E143-E685-4F93-A14B-B38A8048343A@microsoft.com...

>> It isn't. My ME vm is several times faster than on the computer I used

>> to

>> run ME when ME was current.

>>

>> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

>> news:%23E1tGtydIHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Virtual PC would be slower, which is probably not an issue with

>>> a fairly new PC.

>>>

>>>

>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

>>> news:%23picjeydIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> What's the drawback of using VPC (as compared to trying to install ME

>>>> or

>>>> 98 the regular way)? Just that you have to have enough memory to run

>>>> both apps?

>>>>

>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>>> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running

>>>>> more

>>>>> ram

>>>>> than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC.

>>>>> Also, if

>>>>> you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support

>>>>> running

>>>>> Win9x/ME.

>>>>>

>>>>> If you run ME in a virtual machine then you do not have to reboot to

>>>>> switch

>>>>> operating systems. You just run your ME virtual machine as a window

>>>>> on

>>>>> your

>>>>> XP desktop. It is easily your most flexible solution.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Russ" <Russ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:8167F6C5-3DBA-45B3-B2FE-CCF72AB41DBE@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> thx in advance from Russ

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Re: Can I put Win ME on my same computer as XP as secondary OS???

 

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> WinME does not support more than 512MB of ram. If you are running more

> ram than that then consider running ME in a virtual machine using VPC.

> Also, if you are using a recent mobo the chipset drivers may not support

> running Win9x/ME.

>

Win98/ME certainly runs on systems with more than 512 MB. I have

Win 98SE running with no problems in a multiboot system with 2 GB,

(Intel 845 chipset), and 98 can see all of it. The limitation is that the

file

cache cannot be more than 512 MB. All you have to do is add the line,

MaxFileCache=512000, or less, under the [Vcache] heading in system.ini.

 

As you said, finding WinME drivers for the latest motherboards

could be a challenge. Intel series 8xx will probably be okay, but

there may be problems with 9xx and later boards.


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