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Guest Bert Kinney
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

That's an excellent strategy Bill.

 

 

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

http://bertk.mvps.org

Member: http://dts-l.net

 

Bill in Co. wrote:

> Yup. I'm now using it *in conjunction with* ERUNT. And of course,

> Acronis True Image for backing up the entire C: partition.

>

> Bert Kinney wrote:

>> System Restore can be a very useful tool if it's understood and used

>> correctly. :)

>>

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>

>>

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>> But it seems to be in the range of 100 to 200 MB from what we've heard

>>> here.

>>> But as you said, it's a BAD idea to disable it - and pretty stupid, dare

>>> I

>>> say! (unless you are relying on some other rollback technique, and even

>>> then, it's best to have it as a fallback option)

>>>

>>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>> Each restore point takes about 200mb of space to create, give or take,

>>>>> so

>>>>> for each gig you have about 5 checkpionts how many do you believe you

>>>>> need?

>>>> This is not true. The size of a restore point will be determined by the

>>>> size and amount of monitored files, folder and the registry.

>

>

Guest Gord Dibben
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

Question on this Bert.

 

My regular restore points are about 60MB

 

I see several around that size +-10% then one Feb. 15th at 133MB followed by

subsequent points around the 60MB range again.

 

The 133 point was day after the Feb 14th point created by Software Distribution

Services 3.0 which was the day we received some Windows Updates

 

Any significance or just coincidence?

 

The 133MB point has hundreds of the A00xxxxx.rbf, dll, ini,lrd files while

regular points contain 2 or 3 dozen at most.

 

 

Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

 

 

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:09:05 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>System Restore can be a very useful tool if it's understood and used

>correctly. :)

>

>

>Regards,

>Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>http://bertk.mvps.org

>Member: http://dts-l.net

>

>

>Bill in Co. wrote:

>> But it seems to be in the range of 100 to 200 MB from what we've heard here.

>> But as you said, it's a BAD idea to disable it - and pretty stupid, dare I

>> say! (unless you are relying on some other rollback technique, and even

>> then, it's best to have it as a fallback option)

>>

>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>> Mike wrote:

>>>> Each restore point takes about 200mb of space to create, give or take, so

>>>> for each gig you have about 5 checkpionts how many do you believe you need?

>>> This is not true. The size of a restore point will be determined by the

>>> size and amount of monitored files, folder and the registry.

Guest Bert Kinney
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

Hi Gord,

 

Not a coincidence, but how System Restore works. The restore point created

*before* the updates were installed should be the average size. The restore

point created *after* the updates were installed will have included the

updates installed and an increase in size of that restore point. When a

restore point is created it only contains the monitored files, folders and

registry that have changed sense the last restore point was created. This is

why a restore point rely on all previous restore points to complete the restore.

 

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

http://bertk.mvps.org

Member: http://dts-l.net

 

Gord Dibben wrote:

> Question on this Bert.

>

> My regular restore points are about 60MB

>

> I see several around that size +-10% then one Feb. 15th at 133MB followed by

> subsequent points around the 60MB range again.

>

> The 133 point was day after the Feb 14th point created by Software Distribution

> Services 3.0 which was the day we received some Windows Updates

>

> Any significance or just coincidence?

>

> The 133MB point has hundreds of the A00xxxxx.rbf, dll, ini,lrd files while

> regular points contain 2 or 3 dozen at most.

>

>

> Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

>

>

> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:09:05 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>

>> System Restore can be a very useful tool if it's understood and used

>> correctly. :)

>>

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>

>>

>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>> But it seems to be in the range of 100 to 200 MB from what we've heard here.

>>> But as you said, it's a BAD idea to disable it - and pretty stupid, dare I

>>> say! (unless you are relying on some other rollback technique, and even

>>> then, it's best to have it as a fallback option)

>>>

>>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>> Each restore point takes about 200mb of space to create, give or take, so

>>>>> for each gig you have about 5 checkpionts how many do you believe you need?

>>>> This is not true. The size of a restore point will be determined by the

>>>> size and amount of monitored files, folder and the registry.

>

Guest Gord Dibben
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

Thanks Bert

 

So day one RP896 is 60 MB and Windows Update does its thing that day.

 

Day two RP897 is 133MB due to monitoring the changes made by WUD on day one.

 

Day three RP898 is back to 60 MB because no changes were made day two.

 

Is that about it?

 

 

Gord

 

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:37:39 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>Hi Gord,

>

>Not a coincidence, but how System Restore works. The restore point created

>*before* the updates were installed should be the average size. The restore

>point created *after* the updates were installed will have included the

>updates installed and an increase in size of that restore point. When a

>restore point is created it only contains the monitored files, folders and

>registry that have changed sense the last restore point was created. This is

>why a restore point rely on all previous restore points to complete the restore.

>

>Regards,

>Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>http://bertk.mvps.org

>Member: http://dts-l.net

>

>Gord Dibben wrote:

>> Question on this Bert.

>>

>> My regular restore points are about 60MB

>>

>> I see several around that size +-10% then one Feb. 15th at 133MB followed by

>> subsequent points around the 60MB range again.

>>

>> The 133 point was day after the Feb 14th point created by Software Distribution

>> Services 3.0 which was the day we received some Windows Updates

>>

>> Any significance or just coincidence?

>>

>> The 133MB point has hundreds of the A00xxxxx.rbf, dll, ini,lrd files while

>> regular points contain 2 or 3 dozen at most.

>>

>>

>> Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

>>

>>

>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:09:05 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>

>>> System Restore can be a very useful tool if it's understood and used

>>> correctly. :)

>>>

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>

>>>

>>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>>> But it seems to be in the range of 100 to 200 MB from what we've heard here.

>>>> But as you said, it's a BAD idea to disable it - and pretty stupid, dare I

>>>> say! (unless you are relying on some other rollback technique, and even

>>>> then, it's best to have it as a fallback option)

>>>>

>>>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>> Each restore point takes about 200mb of space to create, give or take, so

>>>>>> for each gig you have about 5 checkpionts how many do you believe you need?

>>>>> This is not true. The size of a restore point will be determined by the

>>>>> size and amount of monitored files, folder and the registry.

>>

Guest Bert Kinney
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

Yes, that looks good. :)

 

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

http://bertk.mvps.org

Member: http://dts-l.net

 

 

Gord Dibben wrote:

> Thanks Bert

>

> So day one RP896 is 60 MB and Windows Update does its thing that day.

>

> Day two RP897 is 133MB due to monitoring the changes made by WUD on day one.

>

> Day three RP898 is back to 60 MB because no changes were made day two.

>

> Is that about it?

>

>

> Gord

>

> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:37:39 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>

>> Hi Gord,

>>

>> Not a coincidence, but how System Restore works. The restore point created

>> *before* the updates were installed should be the average size. The restore

>> point created *after* the updates were installed will have included the

>> updates installed and an increase in size of that restore point. When a

>> restore point is created it only contains the monitored files, folders and

>> registry that have changed sense the last restore point was created. This is

>> why a restore point rely on all previous restore points to complete the restore.

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>

>> Gord Dibben wrote:

>>> Question on this Bert.

>>>

>>> My regular restore points are about 60MB

>>>

>>> I see several around that size +-10% then one Feb. 15th at 133MB followed by

>>> subsequent points around the 60MB range again.

>>>

>>> The 133 point was day after the Feb 14th point created by Software Distribution

>>> Services 3.0 which was the day we received some Windows Updates

>>>

>>> Any significance or just coincidence?

>>>

>>> The 133MB point has hundreds of the A00xxxxx.rbf, dll, ini,lrd files while

>>> regular points contain 2 or 3 dozen at most.

>>>

>>>

>>> Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

>>>

>>>

>>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:09:05 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>>

>>>> System Restore can be a very useful tool if it's understood and used

>>>> correctly. :)

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>>>> But it seems to be in the range of 100 to 200 MB from what we've heard here.

>>>>> But as you said, it's a BAD idea to disable it - and pretty stupid, dare I

>>>>> say! (unless you are relying on some other rollback technique, and even

>>>>> then, it's best to have it as a fallback option)

>>>>>

>>>>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>> Each restore point takes about 200mb of space to create, give or take, so

>>>>>>> for each gig you have about 5 checkpionts how many do you believe you need?

>>>>>> This is not true. The size of a restore point will be determined by the

>>>>>> size and amount of monitored files, folder and the registry.

>

Guest Gord Dibben
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

OK

 

Appreciate the help on this.

 

Gord

 

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:00:00 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>Yes, that looks good. :)

>

>Regards,

>Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>http://bertk.mvps.org

>Member: http://dts-l.net

>

>

>Gord Dibben wrote:

>> Thanks Bert

>>

>> So day one RP896 is 60 MB and Windows Update does its thing that day.

>>

>> Day two RP897 is 133MB due to monitoring the changes made by WUD on day one.

>>

>> Day three RP898 is back to 60 MB because no changes were made day two.

>>

>> Is that about it?

>>

>>

>> Gord

>>

>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:37:39 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>

>>> Hi Gord,

>>>

>>> Not a coincidence, but how System Restore works. The restore point created

>>> *before* the updates were installed should be the average size. The restore

>>> point created *after* the updates were installed will have included the

>>> updates installed and an increase in size of that restore point. When a

>>> restore point is created it only contains the monitored files, folders and

>>> registry that have changed sense the last restore point was created. This is

>>> why a restore point rely on all previous restore points to complete the restore.

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>

>>> Gord Dibben wrote:

>>>> Question on this Bert.

>>>>

>>>> My regular restore points are about 60MB

>>>>

>>>> I see several around that size +-10% then one Feb. 15th at 133MB followed by

>>>> subsequent points around the 60MB range again.

>>>>

>>>> The 133 point was day after the Feb 14th point created by Software Distribution

>>>> Services 3.0 which was the day we received some Windows Updates

>>>>

>>>> Any significance or just coincidence?

>>>>

>>>> The 133MB point has hundreds of the A00xxxxx.rbf, dll, ini,lrd files while

>>>> regular points contain 2 or 3 dozen at most.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:09:05 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> System Restore can be a very useful tool if it's understood and used

>>>>> correctly. :)

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Regards,

>>>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>>>>> But it seems to be in the range of 100 to 200 MB from what we've heard here.

>>>>>> But as you said, it's a BAD idea to disable it - and pretty stupid, dare I

>>>>>> say! (unless you are relying on some other rollback technique, and even

>>>>>> then, it's best to have it as a fallback option)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>> Each restore point takes about 200mb of space to create, give or take, so

>>>>>>>> for each gig you have about 5 checkpionts how many do you believe you need?

>>>>>>> This is not true. The size of a restore point will be determined by the

>>>>>>> size and amount of monitored files, folder and the registry.

>>

Guest Bert Kinney
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

You're very welcome Gord.

 

Regards,

Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

http://bertk.mvps.org

Member: http://dts-l.net

 

 

Gord Dibben wrote:

> OK

>

> Appreciate the help on this.

>

> Gord

>

> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 20:00:00 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>

>> Yes, that looks good. :)

>>

>> Regards,

>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>

>>

>> Gord Dibben wrote:

>>> Thanks Bert

>>>

>>> So day one RP896 is 60 MB and Windows Update does its thing that day.

>>>

>>> Day two RP897 is 133MB due to monitoring the changes made by WUD on day one.

>>>

>>> Day three RP898 is back to 60 MB because no changes were made day two.

>>>

>>> Is that about it?

>>>

>>>

>>> Gord

>>>

>>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:37:39 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>>

>>>> Hi Gord,

>>>>

>>>> Not a coincidence, but how System Restore works. The restore point created

>>>> *before* the updates were installed should be the average size. The restore

>>>> point created *after* the updates were installed will have included the

>>>> updates installed and an increase in size of that restore point. When a

>>>> restore point is created it only contains the monitored files, folders and

>>>> registry that have changed sense the last restore point was created. This is

>>>> why a restore point rely on all previous restore points to complete the restore.

>>>>

>>>> Regards,

>>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>>

>>>> Gord Dibben wrote:

>>>>> Question on this Bert.

>>>>>

>>>>> My regular restore points are about 60MB

>>>>>

>>>>> I see several around that size +-10% then one Feb. 15th at 133MB followed by

>>>>> subsequent points around the 60MB range again.

>>>>>

>>>>> The 133 point was day after the Feb 14th point created by Software Distribution

>>>>> Services 3.0 which was the day we received some Windows Updates

>>>>>

>>>>> Any significance or just coincidence?

>>>>>

>>>>> The 133MB point has hundreds of the A00xxxxx.rbf, dll, ini,lrd files while

>>>>> regular points contain 2 or 3 dozen at most.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Gord Dibben MS Excel MVP

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:09:05 -0500, Bert Kinney <bert@NSmvps.org> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> System Restore can be a very useful tool if it's understood and used

>>>>>> correctly. :)

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Regards,

>>>>>> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://bertk.mvps.org

>>>>>> Member: http://dts-l.net

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Bill in Co. wrote:

>>>>>>> But it seems to be in the range of 100 to 200 MB from what we've heard here.

>>>>>>> But as you said, it's a BAD idea to disable it - and pretty stupid, dare I

>>>>>>> say! (unless you are relying on some other rollback technique, and even

>>>>>>> then, it's best to have it as a fallback option)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Bert Kinney wrote:

>>>>>>>> Mike wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Each restore point takes about 200mb of space to create, give or take, so

>>>>>>>>> for each gig you have about 5 checkpionts how many do you believe you need?

>>>>>>>> This is not true. The size of a restore point will be determined by the

>>>>>>>> size and amount of monitored files, folder and the registry.

>

Guest Twayne
Posted

Re: How to keep XP from creating restore-points?

 

> Why in the world would you want to do that?

>

> As long as a new restore is created prier to a device being

> installed, there should not be a problem. Just don't install new

> devices before fully testing the previous device installed.

>

> Regards,

> Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://bertk.mvps.org

> Member: http://dts-l.net

>

> Talal Itani wrote:

>> Every time I install in a new device in my PC, XP creates a new

>> restore-point, and saves old files. Is there a way to keep XP from

>> creating these restore points? I need this because I frequently

>> install new yet similar devices. Thanks.

 

 

 

Since no one will bother to answer your question:

 

Here's how to turn off Restore Points:

Start; Programs; Accessories; System Tools; System Restore. You can

turn off System Restore Points there.

Note that all existing restore points will also be deleted; when you

turn it back on there will be none - you start afresh.

 

That assumes you mean "system" restore points, and not Norton or some

other backup/imaging program of course; your post has little information

content.

 

It is UNWISE to not create restore points: If an install botches, and

crashes the computer or programs, it's an EASY way to get back to the

previous operating state where everythign worked. Think about it before

you stop making restore points; they can be lifesavers at times.

You DO have backups of your data, right? If not, you'd better get

something in place quickly, IMO.

 

HTH

 

 

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Twayne

 

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