Replacing motherboard

[Guest Anthony W]

I replaced the motherboard in a computer with XP pro and it will boot

into safe mode but I'm unable to uninstall enough of the drivers to get

it to come up in normal mode to install the new drivers.

 

Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

reinstall XP?

 

Tony

[Guest Uncle Grumpy]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

Anthony W <technojock@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

>reinstall XP?

 

Ever hear of a "repair install"????

[Guest GreenieLeBrun]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

 

 

Anthony W wrote:

> I replaced the motherboard in a computer with XP pro and it will boot

> into safe mode but I'm unable to uninstall enough of the drivers to

> get it to come up in normal mode to install the new drivers.

>

> Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

> reinstall XP?

>

> Tony

 

You need to do a repair install then install the various drivers, but back

up your data first, things do sometimes go wrong.

 

How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315341

 

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install

http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Guest Anthony W]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

GreenieLeBrun wrote:

> You need to do a repair install then install the various drivers, but back

> up your data first, things do sometimes go wrong.

>

> How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows

> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315341

>

> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install

> http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

 

Thanks I'll give it a try.

 

Tony

[Guest Alias]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

Uncle Grumpy wrote:

> Anthony W <technojock@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>> Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

>> reinstall XP?

>

> Ever hear of a "repair install"????

 

Ever hear of "manners"????

 

Alias

[Guest Xandros]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

If your system has an Award BIOS set the Plug n Play OS to "Enabled".

 

--

 

Xandros

 

 

"Anthony W" <technojock@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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>I replaced the motherboard in a computer with XP pro and it will boot into

>safe mode but I'm unable to uninstall enough of the drivers to get it to

>come up in normal mode to install the new drivers.

>

> Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

> reinstall XP?

>

> Tony

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

Actually newer motherboards will almost universally use an ACPI

HAL ( Computer Driver ), so it's best to not set PNP OS = enabled.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321779

 

"Xandros" <arron.neus*remove*@gmai.lcom> wrote in message

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> If your system has an Award BIOS set the Plug n Play OS to "Enabled".

>

> --

>

> Xandros

>

>

> "Anthony W" <technojock@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:W5rwj.4608$O64.1048@trndny03...

>>I replaced the motherboard in a computer with XP pro and it will boot into

>>safe mode but I'm unable to uninstall enough of the drivers to get it to

>>come up in normal mode to install the new drivers.

>>

>> Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

>> reinstall XP?

>>

>> Tony

>

>

[Guest Anthony W]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

I wasn't able to get a repair install to work so I will be deleting the

partition and reinstalling tonight.

 

I haven't had good results with repair installs since Win95. It may

work for others but I never seem to be that lucky...

 

Tony

 

R. McCarty wrote:

> Actually newer motherboards will almost universally use an ACPI

> HAL ( Computer Driver ), so it's best to not set PNP OS = enabled.

> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321779

>

> "Xandros" <arron.neus*remove*@gmai.lcom> wrote in message

> news:u$QiGS7dIHA.4588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> If your system has an Award BIOS set the Plug n Play OS to "Enabled".

>>

>> --

>>

>> Xandros

>>

>>

>> "Anthony W" <technojock@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:W5rwj.4608$O64.1048@trndny03...

>>> I replaced the motherboard in a computer with XP pro and it will boot into

>>> safe mode but I'm unable to uninstall enough of the drivers to get it to

>>> come up in normal mode to install the new drivers.

>>>

>>> Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

>>> reinstall XP?

>>>

>>> Tony

>>

>

>

[Guest Victor]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

"Anthony W" wrote...

>I replaced the motherboard in a computer with XP pro and it will boot into

>safe mode but I'm unable to uninstall enough of the drivers to get it to

>come up in normal mode to install the new drivers.

>

> Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

> reinstall XP?

>

> Tony

 

I suggest you forgot a few steps.

 

First of all, when moving to a new motherboard, ALWAYS use a new hard drive.

Trust me, you'll want the original hard drive, with drivers, as a backup.

 

This is a Best Practices procedure.

 

Before proceeding, remove al unneeded PCI cards such as Ethernet, USB, etc.

 

1. Format the new hard drive using the NEW motherboard.

This is a crucial step. Different motherboard drive electronics have

different signal timing characteristics (in theory, this shouldn't matter,

In practice, as a hardware engineer I'm telling you it's very important).

ALWAYS format a new drive with the motherboard it will be used in. Failure

to do this can result in a hard drive crash - although the probability of

this happening if you are using NTFS is low, there is still a chance.

 

2. Using your original motherboard, clone your original drive to your new

drive. When done, put your original drive away as a safe backup.

 

3. Put your NEW drive in your ORIGINAL motherboard. Boot as an

Administrator.

 

4. Uninstall all disk utilities such as disk optimizers/defragmenters. You

should always do this on a newly cloned drive. Norton Speeddisk, for

example, stores sector information in the registry so that running Speeddisk

on a newly cloned drive can almost guarantee a drive crash.

 

Also, disable or uninstall any unneeded boot programs such as firewalls,

antivirus or antispyware programs, CD/DVD writer software, etc.

 

5. Re-Boot to the BIOS. Disable Plug-n-Play

a. Boot to Windows, Log in as an Administrator.

b. Go to Device manager, and delete EVERYTHING you see under 'System

Devices". This should uninstall everything that is motherboard related.

windows now has no motherboard drivers.

c. TURN THE COMPUTER OFF. Your drive now has no hardware drivers. In my

opinion, this makes it dangerous to do anything Windows related. However,

some have shut down Windows from this point with no problems.

 

6. Put the new drive in with the new motherboard. Boot immediately to BIOS,

make sure Play-n-Play is enabled, the time is properly set, the hard drive

is properly detected, and that all settings are "safe" (do not overclock,

etc).

 

7. Down a shot of tequila.

 

8. Reboot the computer into Windows XP as an administrator. If the BIOS is

set up properly, Windows will install all drivers. When Windows is done

installing drivers, reboot Windows whether asked to or not.

 

9. Go into Device Manager and make sure all looks good.

 

10. Go out and get drunk.

[Guest Bruce Chambers]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

Anthony W wrote:

> I replaced the motherboard in a computer with XP pro and it will boot

> into safe mode but I'm unable to uninstall enough of the drivers to get

> it to come up in normal mode to install the new drivers.

>

> Is there an easy way around this or should I just back up the data and

> reinstall XP?

>

> Tony

 

 

Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM

installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and

therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours

*before* starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical

(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one

on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to

perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

 

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

 

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

 

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with

licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.

You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If

you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a

Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style

foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,

is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any

old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it

"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the

reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable

than the Win9x group.

 

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any

important data before starting.

 

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a

Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than

120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most

likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's

been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

 

 

 

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[Guest Anthony W]

Re: Replacing motherboard

 

This was not an OEM copy of XP, it's an upgrade copy of XP Pro from

WinME. I built the original computer for the client shortly before the

release of XP and did a reinstall of XP with a new hard disk for them a

bit over a year ago.

 

It's a good thing I backed it up well as the repair install f"ed it up

good. I've never had a problem reactivating a reinstall of XP upgrade

but this could be the first time (hope not...)

 

The client was over due for a faster machine but wouldn't have replaced

it if the old motherboard hadn't failed. Actually the power supply blew

and took the motherboard with it and it seems to have taken one of the

optical drives too but this is OT for this group...

 

Tony

 

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM

> installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and

> therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours

> *before* starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical

> (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one

> on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to

> perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

>

> How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP

> http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

>

> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed

> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

>

> The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with

> licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.

> You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If

> you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a

> Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style

> foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,

> is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any

> old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it

> "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the

> reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable

> than the Win9x group.

>

> As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any

> important data before starting.

>

> This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a

> Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than

> 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most

> likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's

> been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.

>

>

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