LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

[Guest TMitchell]

What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in

to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

has started doing it from time to time.

[Guest PD43]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in

>to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

>has started doing it from time to time.

 

Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you

provided.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

Yeah, my thought also.

 

"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>

>>What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in

>>to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

>>has started doing it from time to time.

>

> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you

> provided.

[Guest TMitchell]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> Yeah, my thought also.

>

> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...

>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>

>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in

>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

>>> has started doing it from time to time.

>>

>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you

>> provided.

>

OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,

but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service

issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing

unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several

hours.

 

What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise

detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

SpeedFan Version 4.33:

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

 

One factor on notebook heat is the surface the notebook sits on.

A wood desktop will retain and concentrate heat. Sometimes if

you elevate the back of the notebook it will allow a little air flow

underneath. Also a USB powered "Notebook Chiller" pad will

help keep the notebook cooler. Most notebook have little or no

airflow around the hard drive and some drives will run at or near

their maximum temp rating of ~130 degrees F.

 

"TMitchell" <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

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> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> Yeah, my thought also.

>>

>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...

>>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug

>>>> in

>>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

>>>> has started doing it from time to time.

>>>

>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you

>>> provided.

>>

> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info, but

> didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service issues

> (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing unusual.

> It just shuts down without warning after running for several hours.

>

> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise detecting

> that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

[Guest Uncle Marvo]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

In reply to TMitchell (tmitche2@ix.netcom.com) who wrote this in

13s872m53rskrbf@corp.supernews.com, I, Marvo, say :

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> Yeah, my thought also.

>>

>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...

>>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>>

>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is

>>>> plug in to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious

>>>> reason? Mine has started doing it from time to time.

>>>

>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info

>>> you provided.

>>

> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,

> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service

> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing

> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several

> hours.

>

> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise

> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

 

A few things. One is to reseat the battery (I know it sounds daft, but it is

often the problem); just take it out and slam it home again. When it shuts

down, does it just power off with no warning? Check also that the fan(s) are

not covered, I had this problem on a laptop which had a piece of paper

underneath it which was being sucked into the fan thus preventing any

airflow. The last thing is to blow the fans out (gently) with an airline

(such as you'd find at a tyre centre or service station), DON'T overdo it

because the airflow will spin the fans very fast and may damage the

bearings. They get full of fluff and stuff which again causes them to

overheat.

 

HTH

[Guest throwitout]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

On Feb 26, 10:02 am, TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> > Yeah, my thought also.

>

> > "PD43" <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote in message

> >news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...

> >> TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>

> >>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in

> >>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

> >>> has started doing it from time to time.

>

> >> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you

> >> provided.

>

> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,

> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service

> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing

> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several

> hours.

>

> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise

> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

 

I use SpeedFan:

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

 

It also has the option to set "events". So for example when the

temperature goes above a certain point it can run an application or

play a sound. I have mine set to beep the PC speaker and repeat every

couple seconds.

[Guest TMitchell]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

ThankUncle Marvo wrote:

> In reply to TMitchell (tmitche2@ix.netcom.com) who wrote this in

> 13s872m53rskrbf@corp.supernews.com, I, Marvo, say :

>

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> Yeah, my thought also.

>>>

>>> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...

>>>> TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is

>>>>> plug in to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious

>>>>> reason? Mine has started doing it from time to time.

>>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info

>>>> you provided.

>> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,

>> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service

>> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing

>> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several

>> hours.

>>

>> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise

>> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

>

> A few things. One is to reseat the battery (I know it sounds daft, but it is

> often the problem); just take it out and slam it home again. When it shuts

> down, does it just power off with no warning? Check also that the fan(s) are

> not covered, I had this problem on a laptop which had a piece of paper

> underneath it which was being sucked into the fan thus preventing any

> airflow. The last thing is to blow the fans out (gently) with an airline

> (such as you'd find at a tyre centre or service station), DON'T overdo it

> because the airflow will spin the fans very fast and may damage the

> bearings. They get full of fluff and stuff which again causes them to

> overheat.

>

> HTH

>

>

s for the helpful tips. It shuts down without warning. It's in a

Lenovo docking station, so maybe there's an air flow issue with that.

[Guest TMitchell]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

throwitout wrote:

> On Feb 26, 10:02 am, TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> Yeah, my thought also.

>>> "PD43" <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...

>>>> TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in

>>>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

>>>>> has started doing it from time to time.

>>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you

>>>> provided.

>> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,

>> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service

>> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing

>> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several

>> hours.

>>

>> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise

>> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

>

> I use SpeedFan:

> http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

>

> It also has the option to set "events". So for example when the

> temperature goes above a certain point it can run an application or

> play a sound. I have mine set to beep the PC speaker and repeat every

> couple seconds.

 

Is there any system monitoring tool that comes with XP that can show CPU

temperature info?

[Guest R. McCarty]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

No native XP support for any type of Thermal monitoring.

 

"TMitchell" <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

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> throwitout wrote:

>> On Feb 26, 10:02 am, TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>> Yeah, my thought also.

>>>> "PD43" <pauld1...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:bv47s3dvu6dmgl461inh34jdcumm42b5rr@4ax.com...

>>>>> TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>>>>>> What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug

>>>>>> in

>>>>>> to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason?

>>>>>> Mine

>>>>>> has started doing it from time to time.

>>>>> Overheating CPU to make just one guess based on the wealth of info you

>>>>> provided.

>>> OK. Thank you for the replies. Sorry I failed to provide more info,

>>> but didn't know what else to say, as there are no electric service

>>> issues (spikes or power disruptions), and Event Viewer reveals nothing

>>> unusual. It just shuts down without warning after running for several

>>> hours.

>>>

>>> What's a method for monitoring the CPU heat history or otherwise

>>> detecting that this might be the culprit? (Running XP SP2).

>>

>> I use SpeedFan:

>> http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

>>

>> It also has the option to set "events". So for example when the

>> temperature goes above a certain point it can run an application or

>> play a sound. I have mine set to beep the PC speaker and repeat every

>> couple seconds.

>

> Is there any system monitoring tool that comes with XP that can show CPU

> temperature info?

[Guest PaulMaudib]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:06:45 -0600, TMitchell <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com>

wrote:

>What might be a cause for a one-year old laptop (Lenovo) that is plug in

>to an electrical outlet shutting down without an obvious reason? Mine

>has started doing it from time to time.

 

Likely it is NOT related to the OS or XP, meaning the question does

not belong in this group as it is hardware related.

 

Ask elsewhere

[Guest apistomaster]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

I bought this adjustable angle utility stand and modified it by

drilling ventilation holes for my laptop(lap burner) and adding two

short nylon spacers and bolts to prevent the lap top from slipping..

The machine runs very cool now and and the "L" shaped legs allow me to

pull the machine up close for good ergonomics.

I know this is not a specific XP related post but it has turned out to

be a neat and inexpensive solution for a common problem of hot

laptops.

I have a home wireless LAN with all the rest of the hardware in the

bedroom

http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/apistomaster/?action=view&current=P7030011.jpg

http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/apistomaster/?action=view&current=P7030014.jpg

[Guest TMitchell]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

apistomaster wrote:

> I bought this adjustable angle utility stand and modified it by

> drilling ventilation holes for my laptop(lap burner) and adding two

> short nylon spacers and bolts to prevent the lap top from slipping..

> The machine runs very cool now and and the "L" shaped legs allow me to

> pull the machine up close for good ergonomics.

> I know this is not a specific XP related post but it has turned out to

> be a neat and inexpensive solution for a common problem of hot

> laptops.

> I have a home wireless LAN with all the rest of the hardware in the

> bedroom

> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/apistomaster/?action=view&current=P7030011.jpg

> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/apistomaster/?action=view&current=P7030014.jpg

 

Thanks for the idea.

 

Most people, like you, have been very helpful in this thread. One has not.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple refused

to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the MacBook

Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could lead

to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo used

was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high as

100C (yes that's "C").

 

I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I referred to

my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the keyboard

and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the

waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some

schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.

 

Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by

suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC." (cool

Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified Apple

moderator).

 

After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application of

thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some

revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

 

"TMitchell" <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

news:13sbadv4vj1neb6@corp.supernews.com...

> apistomaster wrote:

>> I bought this adjustable angle utility stand and modified it by

>> drilling ventilation holes for my laptop(lap burner) and adding two

>> short nylon spacers and bolts to prevent the lap top from slipping..

>> The machine runs very cool now and and the "L" shaped legs allow me to

>> pull the machine up close for good ergonomics.

>> I know this is not a specific XP related post but it has turned out to

>> be a neat and inexpensive solution for a common problem of hot

>> laptops.

>> I have a home wireless LAN with all the rest of the hardware in the

>> bedroom

>> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/apistomaster/?action=view&current=P7030011.jpg

>> http://s157.photobucket.com/albums/t41/apistomaster/?action=view&current=P7030014.jpg

>

> Thanks for the idea.

>

> Most people, like you, have been very helpful in this thread. One has

> not.

[Guest throwitout]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

On Feb 27, 3:12 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:

> But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple refused

> to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the MacBook

> Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could lead

> to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo used

> was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high as

> 100C (yes that's "C").

>

> I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I referred to

> my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the keyboard

> and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the

> waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some

> schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.

>

> Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by

> suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC." (cool

> Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified Apple

> moderator).

>

> After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application of

> thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some

> revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

 

The Macbook isn't much better. In keeping with Mac's form over

function styling, the vents for the Macbook are inside the monitor

hinge! At full load the fan sounds like a hair dryer. The Turion in my

HP notebook is known to be a space heater, but at least it can expel

hot air into the atmosphere and not just melt the monitor. As much as

it's supposed to be a space heater, under normal web browsing my HP

only gets warm, it takes the processor being pegged before the vents

become uncomfortably hot.

 

Another downside to this is running the machine with the lid closed.

As my HP is a desktop replacement that's on all the time, it was a

minor inconvenience to stop the machine from going to sleep when the

lid is closed. Apparently in the Apple "just works" design

methodology, this isn't actually a system option but something that

must be hacked in there by third parties. Then they give warnings

about potential damage since you're blocking the vents with the lid

shut.

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

Oh my!

 

"throwitout" <throwitout@dodgeit.com> wrote in message

news:317cb1e8-f809-410a-bb59-db72dfec1e20@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...

> On Feb 27, 3:12 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple

>> refused

>> to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the

>> MacBook

>> Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could

>> lead

>> to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo

>> used

>> was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high as

>> 100C (yes that's "C").

>>

>> I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I referred

>> to

>> my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the

>> keyboard

>> and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the

>> waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some

>> schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.

>>

>> Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by

>> suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC." (cool

>> Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified

>> Apple

>> moderator).

>>

>> After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application of

>> thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some

>> revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

>

> The Macbook isn't much better. In keeping with Mac's form over

> function styling, the vents for the Macbook are inside the monitor

> hinge! At full load the fan sounds like a hair dryer. The Turion in my

> HP notebook is known to be a space heater, but at least it can expel

> hot air into the atmosphere and not just melt the monitor. As much as

> it's supposed to be a space heater, under normal web browsing my HP

> only gets warm, it takes the processor being pegged before the vents

> become uncomfortably hot.

>

> Another downside to this is running the machine with the lid closed.

> As my HP is a desktop replacement that's on all the time, it was a

> minor inconvenience to stop the machine from going to sleep when the

> lid is closed. Apparently in the Apple "just works" design

> methodology, this isn't actually a system option but something that

> must be hacked in there by third parties. Then they give warnings

> about potential damage since you're blocking the vents with the lid

> shut.

[Guest TMitchell]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

throwitout wrote:

> On Feb 27, 3:12 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:

>> But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple refused

>> to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the MacBook

>> Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could lead

>> to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo used

>> was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high as

>> 100C (yes that's "C").

>>

>> I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I referred to

>> my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the keyboard

>> and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the

>> waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some

>> schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.

>>

>> Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by

>> suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC." (cool

>> Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified Apple

>> moderator).

>>

>> After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application of

>> thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some

>> revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

>

> The Macbook isn't much better. In keeping with Mac's form over

> function styling, the vents for the Macbook are inside the monitor

> hinge! At full load the fan sounds like a hair dryer. The Turion in my

> HP notebook is known to be a space heater, but at least it can expel

> hot air into the atmosphere and not just melt the monitor. As much as

> it's supposed to be a space heater, under normal web browsing my HP

> only gets warm, it takes the processor being pegged before the vents

> become uncomfortably hot.

>

> Another downside to this is running the machine with the lid closed.

> As my HP is a desktop replacement that's on all the time, it was a

> minor inconvenience to stop the machine from going to sleep when the

> lid is closed. Apparently in the Apple "just works" design

> methodology, this isn't actually a system option but something that

> must be hacked in there by third parties. Then they give warnings

> about potential damage since you're blocking the vents with the lid

> shut.

 

Maybe that's part of my problem (assuming an overheating CPU is the

reason for the random shutdowns). I keep the Lenovo in the docking

station with the lid closed and the battery in.

[Guest throwitout]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

On Feb 27, 7:05 pm, TMitchell <tmitc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> throwitout wrote:

> > On Feb 27, 3:12 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:

> >> But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple refused

> >> to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the MacBook

> >> Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could lead

> >> to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo used

> >> was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high as

> >> 100C (yes that's "C").

>

> >> I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I referred to

> >> my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the keyboard

> >> and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the

> >> waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some

> >> schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.

>

> >> Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by

> >> suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC." (cool

> >> Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified Apple

> >> moderator).

>

> >> After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application of

> >> thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some

> >> revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

>

> > The Macbook isn't much better. In keeping with Mac's form over

> > function styling, the vents for the Macbook are inside the monitor

> > hinge! At full load the fan sounds like a hair dryer. The Turion in my

> > HP notebook is known to be a space heater, but at least it can expel

> > hot air into the atmosphere and not just melt the monitor. As much as

> > it's supposed to be a space heater, under normal web browsing my HP

> > only gets warm, it takes the processor being pegged before the vents

> > become uncomfortably hot.

>

> > Another downside to this is running the machine with the lid closed.

> > As my HP is a desktop replacement that's on all the time, it was a

> > minor inconvenience to stop the machine from going to sleep when the

> > lid is closed. Apparently in the Apple "just works" design

> > methodology, this isn't actually a system option but something that

> > must be hacked in there by third parties. Then they give warnings

> > about potential damage since you're blocking the vents with the lid

> > shut.

>

> Maybe that's part of my problem (assuming an overheating CPU is the

> reason for the random shutdowns). I keep the Lenovo in the docking

> station with the lid closed and the battery in.

 

Run a temperature monitor program like Speedfan and let us know what

it finds temperature-wise, just so we don't keep guessing.

 

Does it do the same thing when it's not in the docking station?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: LapTop Shuts Down Randomly

 

I would at least use a laptop cooler. Also, any kind of table covering is

deadly unless you raise the bottom well clear.

 

"TMitchell" <tmitche2@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

news:13sbr92e0jn200e@corp.supernews.com...

> throwitout wrote:

>> On Feb 27, 3:12 pm, "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:

>>> But at least it isn't running as hot as my first MacBook Pro. Apple

>>> refused

>>> to acknowledge the issue at first, but did post a warning that the

>>> MacBook

>>> Pro was NOT a laptop, but a notebook and using one on one's lap could

>>> lead

>>> to "extreme discomfort". They also would point out that the Core Duo

>>> used

>>> was rated by Intel of having a normal operating temperature of as high

>>> as

>>> 100C (yes that's "C").

>>>

>>> I got a couple of posts yanked from an Apple forum when in one I

>>> referred to

>>> my "waffle iron" and described the proper way to pour batter on the

>>> keyboard

>>> and close the lid. I then feigned asking for assistance in getting the

>>> waffle iron indentations to show up on both sides of my waffles. Some

>>> schmuck moderator had no sense of humor.

>>>

>>> Another post got yanked when I spoofed the "I'm a Mac" commercials by

>>> suggesting Apple script one that went: (stodgy PC guy) "I'm a PC."

>>> (cool

>>> Mac dude sweating profusely) "I'm a MacBook Pro". (Another satified

>>> Apple

>>> moderator).

>>>

>>> After about three months Apple fixed the problem (improper application

>>> of

>>> thermal paste at the factory on some early runs of machines, and some

>>> revisions to the software that controls some fan or other).

>>

>> The Macbook isn't much better. In keeping with Mac's form over

>> function styling, the vents for the Macbook are inside the monitor

>> hinge! At full load the fan sounds like a hair dryer. The Turion in my

>> HP notebook is known to be a space heater, but at least it can expel

>> hot air into the atmosphere and not just melt the monitor. As much as

>> it's supposed to be a space heater, under normal web browsing my HP

>> only gets warm, it takes the processor being pegged before the vents

>> become uncomfortably hot.

>>

>> Another downside to this is running the machine with the lid closed.

>> As my HP is a desktop replacement that's on all the time, it was a

>> minor inconvenience to stop the machine from going to sleep when the

>> lid is closed. Apparently in the Apple "just works" design

>> methodology, this isn't actually a system option but something that

>> must be hacked in there by third parties. Then they give warnings

>> about potential damage since you're blocking the vents with the lid

>> shut.

>

> Maybe that's part of my problem (assuming an overheating CPU is the reason

> for the random shutdowns). I keep the Lenovo in the docking station with

> the lid closed and the battery in.