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I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

 

This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

the day was spend trying to recover.

 

The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB free).

It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

 

When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

 

I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents. All

hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

 

I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I immediately

uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

 

I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it if

it worked. Sadly, it did not.

 

I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

Office 2007 Pro.

 

I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not guarantee

a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or so

or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

files that changed in between.

 

--

Windows XP, Office 2007 Pro

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Guest Bill in Co.

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

I haven't had any such problems with TI 11 Home. And BTW, once the backup

is made, you don't have to mount anything to check its contents, you just

exit the program and use Windows Explorer to see it. After exiting, I

give the system a second or two to stabilize and then go to Explorer and

look for the backup, and then click on explore (but don't rush it - it make

take a second or two to decompress)

 

And if you want to make sure your backup is ok, just after you have made the

backup, run the verify routine.

 

I think your experience is more the exception than the rule, and from what

I've read, True Image 11 Home has a pretty good reputation. I sure

haven't had any problems with it - and yes, I've restored the main HD

partition, no problemo.

 

Incidentally, the tib file will be a bit smaller than expected, due to the

compression. So if you had 30 GB of actual data, it could very well be 18

GB.

 

 

Three Lefts wrote:

> I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

>

> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

> the day was spend trying to recover.

>

> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB free).

> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>

> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>

> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents. All

> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>

> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I immediately

> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>

> I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it if

> it worked. Sadly, it did not.

>

> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

> Office 2007 Pro.

>

> I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

> especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not guarantee

> a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or so

> or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

> files that changed in between.

>

> --

> Windows XP, Office 2007 Pro

Guest PD43

Guest PD43

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I haven't had any such problems with TI 11 Home. And BTW, once the backup

>is made, you don't have to mount anything to check its contents, you just

>exit the program and use Windows Explorer to see it.

 

I'd rather use Acronis itself to do that exploring.

 

I've been using AI since version 7 and have never had ANY problems

with it.

Guest PD43

Guest PD43

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Incidentally, the tib file will be a bit smaller than expected, due to the

>compression. So if you had 30 GB of actual data, it could very well be 18

>GB.

 

Only if he used maximum compression. There is a performance hit when

doing NO compression while using Windows, so I'd guess any compression

would increase the hit. Maybe that was part of his problem.

 

I prefer to run it when I'm not doing anything else. I usually start

the session when I crash for the night.

Guest DL

Guest DL

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

The only problem I have ever had with TI was corrupt image due to memory

issues.

Whereas Carbonite did cause issues with other software.

You have a problem with your specific configuration that caused this

 

"Three Lefts" <spamtrap@spamtrap.invalid> wrote in message

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>I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

>

> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

> the day was spend trying to recover.

>

> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB free).

> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>

> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>

> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents. All

> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>

> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I immediately

> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>

> I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it if

> it worked. Sadly, it did not.

>

> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

> Office 2007 Pro.

>

> I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

> especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not guarantee

> a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or so

> or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

> files that changed in between.

>

> --

> Windows XP, Office 2007 Pro

Guest Three Lefts

Guest Three Lefts

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:52:26 -0600, PD43 <pauld1943@comcast.net>

wrote:

>"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote:

>

>>Incidentally, the tib file will be a bit smaller than expected, due to the

>>compression. So if you had 30 GB of actual data, it could very well be 18

>>GB.

>

>Only if he used maximum compression. There is a performance hit when

>doing NO compression while using Windows, so I'd guess any compression

>would increase the hit. Maybe that was part of his problem.

>

>I prefer to run it when I'm not doing anything else. I usually start

>the session when I crash for the night.

 

The computer was idle except for Acronis and whatever background tasks

there are.

Guest VanguardLH

Guest VanguardLH

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

"Three Lefts" wrote in message

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>I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

>

> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

> the day was spend trying to recover.

>

> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB

> free).

> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>

> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>

> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents.

> All

> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>

> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I

> immediately

> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>

> I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it

> if

> it worked. Sadly, it did not.

>

> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

> Office 2007 Pro.

>

> I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

> especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not

> guarantee

> a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or

> so

> or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

> files that changed in between.

>

> --

> Windows XP

 

Geez, even you know there are multiple versions of Windows XP:

- Home

- Professional

and different hardware versions for the Professional version:

- x86 (32-bit)

- x64 (64-bit)

 

So WHICH version of Windows XP are you using? If it is Windows XP Pro

x64, dump Acronis. We had to. When creating a backup task, TrueImage

(TI) freezes on the screen that would normally list the available

destinations. Apparently it doesn't like the 64-bit drivers used to

poll the drives or some of them and then it locks up. I had it create

its Secure Zone (a hidden partition which I have on a 2nd hard disk)

and I can reboot and hit F11 to run its recovery manager (before

Windows loads) to do a backup or restore but that is just too much of

a pain in the ass, is entirely manual, and obviates the purpose of

periodically running scheduled backups.

 

Acronis says that TI v11 supports Windows XP x64. They lie. Other

users of WinXP Pro x64 also have problems with TI. Also, there are

several important features missing in their Home version; i.e., it is

crippled. Doesn't have a start date when scheduling tasks, doesn't

support Volume Shadow Copy service (to make sure inuse files get

backed up), has never and still does not obey the quotas you set

regarding max disk space and backup count (so I have to use the Secure

Zone to make sure TI doesn't consume the entire OS partition and

render the OS unusable), and lots of other problems that you can read

about in their forums.

 

I consider TrueImage (any version) "Home" to be lureware. If you have

any problems with it or discover it is lacking basic features to

provide a reasonable personal backup program, the excuse that Acronis

gives is to pay twice as much for their Workstation version but, of

course, no guarantees the problems or deficiences actually get

addressed in the pricier version.

Guest Three Lefts

Guest Three Lefts

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:58:04 -0000, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>The only problem I have ever had with TI was corrupt image due to memory

>issues.

>Whereas Carbonite did cause issues with other software.

>You have a problem with your specific configuration that caused this

 

Properly-written software does not cause a system to hang no matter

the configuration. Of course, a properly-designed OS would not hang no

matter what the application software does. Windows falls just a teeny

bit short of that ideal.

 

Hoew about this: You continue using Acronis. I'll continue using

Carbonite. We'll both be happy.

Guest Three Lefts

Guest Three Lefts

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 03:27:15 -0600, "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>"Three Lefts" wrote in message

>news:v2vhs31of1u9ois9vcu6huii2p11aampld@4ax.com...

>>I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

>>

>> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

>> the day was spend trying to recover.

>>

>> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

>> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB

>> free).

>> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

>> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>>

>> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>>

>> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents.

>> All

>> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

>> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

>> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>>

>> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I

>> immediately

>> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>>

>> I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it

>> if

>> it worked. Sadly, it did not.

>>

>> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

>> Office 2007 Pro.

>>

>> I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

>> especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not

>> guarantee

>> a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or

>> so

>> or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

>> files that changed in between.

>>

>> --

>> Windows XP

>

>Geez, even you know there are multiple versions of Windows XP:

 

Even me? Thanks

>- Home

>- Professional

 

XP Pro. Sig updated.

>and different hardware versions for the Professional version:

>- x86 (32-bit)

>- x64 (64-bit)

 

Dell Inspiron 9400. I think that's a 64-bit processor, but I could be

wrong.

>So WHICH version of Windows XP are you using? If it is Windows XP Pro

>x64, dump Acronis.

 

I guess that's the problem. It has been dumped.

>We had to. When creating a backup task, TrueImage

>(TI) freezes on the screen that would normally list the available

>destinations. Apparently it doesn't like the 64-bit drivers used to

>poll the drives or some of them and then it locks up. I had it create

>its Secure Zone (a hidden partition which I have on a 2nd hard disk)

>and I can reboot and hit F11 to run its recovery manager (before

>Windows loads) to do a backup or restore but that is just too much of

>a pain in the ass, is entirely manual, and obviates the purpose of

>periodically running scheduled backups.

>

>Acronis says that TI v11 supports Windows XP x64. They lie. Other

>users of WinXP Pro x64 also have problems with TI. Also, there are

>several important features missing in their Home version; i.e., it is

>crippled. Doesn't have a start date when scheduling tasks, doesn't

>support Volume Shadow Copy service (to make sure inuse files get

>backed up), has never and still does not obey the quotas you set

>regarding max disk space and backup count (so I have to use the Secure

>Zone to make sure TI doesn't consume the entire OS partition and

>render the OS unusable), and lots of other problems that you can read

>about in their forums.

>

>I consider TrueImage (any version) "Home" to be lureware. If you have

>any problems with it or discover it is lacking basic features to

>provide a reasonable personal backup program, the excuse that Acronis

>gives is to pay twice as much for their Workstation version but, of

>course, no guarantees the problems or deficiences actually get

>addressed in the pricier version.

Guest VanguardLH

Guest VanguardLH

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"Three Lefts" wrote in message

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>

> "VanguardLH" wrote:

>>

>>"Three Lefts" wrote ...

>>>

>>> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest

>>> of

>>> the day was spend trying to recover.

>>>

>>> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

>>> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB

>>> free).

>>> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that

>>> one

>>> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>>>

>>> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>>>

>>> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents.

>>> All

>>> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could

>>> barely

>>> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes

>>> between

>>> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>>>

>>> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I

>>> immediately

>>> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>>>

>>> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

>>> Office 2007 Pro.

>>

>> Geez, even you know there are multiple versions of Windows XP:

>

> Even me? Thanks

>

>>- Home

>>- Professional

>

> XP Pro. Sig updated.

>

>>and different hardware versions for the Professional version:

>>- x86 (32-bit)

>>- x64 (64-bit)

>

> Dell Inspiron 9400. I think that's a 64-bit processor, but I could

> be

> wrong.

 

The vast majority of pre-builts will NOT install a 64-bit version of

Windows. Lack of driver support. Lack of application compatibility.

They want to reduce their tech service calls but 64-bit (Windows XP

Pro or Vista) won't do that. They don't want to deal with the

headaches of Pro/Vista x64, either.

>>So WHICH version of Windows XP are you using? If it is Windows XP

>>Pro

>>x64, dump Acronis.

>

> I guess that's the problem. It has been dumped.

 

If you right-click on the My Computer desktop icon and look at

Properties under the General tab, it should say x64 if that is what is

installed. If you are using the Fisher-Price fluff desktop, run the

System Properties applet in Control Panel.

 

I'm still trying to find a decent replacement for TI Home v11. Some

are close but it seems you have to decide what to trade off for

features. Roxio has their BackOnTrack but isn't everything that I

want and there are some users reporting issues with it (but there are

less posts about problem but then maybe its users aren't as vocal).

 

If you do have x64 of Windows XP Pro or Vista, my advice is to

definitely find something else. If you are using the x86 (32bit)

versions of those OS'es, make damn sure that you set TI Home to run

its tasks at LOW PRIORITY. At high priority, the backup/restore

completes faster but your host will be nearly unusable (it will look

hung). At medium priority, there will be a huge lag in responsiveness

of your host. I'm still using a 6-year old AMD Athlon 3200+ (just 1

processor) with 2GB RAM. Your hardware may be newer and more capable

(faster, more cores, more memory) but I would still suggest running

the tasks at low priority if they have any chance of overlapping when

you want to use the host. If you schedule the jobs to run while you

are sleeping then you could use high priority (but forget using the

host during that time).

Guest Juergen Meyer

Guest Juergen Meyer

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

It had been a good idea, but in practice it's a horror story.

Imagine, you make a separate backup every month.

If you now browse your computer from the explorer for certain files,

Acronis also searches within the tib.files.

This makes the computer incredible slow, especially on the network.

The computer freezes and additionally, after a certain time, the

computer mostly crashes.

 

As long as you only search in directories not containing tib.files,

all runs fine.

 

The other problem: If you have more than one tib.file, you can't see

in the explorer which tib.file contains the file you were looking for

(Is it the newer backup or not).

 

So in my opinion Acronis should implement an own search routine, not

using the explorer. This would avoid a lot of problems.

 

rgds

Juergen

Guest rbwilson

Guest rbwilson

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

Take a look at ShadowProtect Desktop 3.1 at http://www.storagecraft.com . It

offers continous incremental backups, bare metal restore, output to

networked attached storage as well as local devices, and has an excellent

user forum, including quick responses there from the company. It was

reviewed well by PC Mag - see

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2254465,00.asp . It's a little more

costly than TrueImage, but in my opinion worth the money. I'm using it on a

MS Vista Premium PC with no problems. They offer a free trial version.

 

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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> "Three Lefts" wrote in message

> news:meais3pnlfd33e83jdsv0ks2t7lpsfle92@4ax.com...

>>

>> "VanguardLH" wrote:

>>>

>>>"Three Lefts" wrote ...

>>>>

>>>> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

>>>> the day was spend trying to recover.

>>>>

>>>> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

>>>> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB

>>>> free).

>>>> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

>>>> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>>>>

>>>> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>>>>

>>>> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents.

>>>> All

>>>> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

>>>> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

>>>> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>>>>

>>>> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I

>>>> immediately

>>>> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>>>>

>>>> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

>>>> Office 2007 Pro.

>>>

>>> Geez, even you know there are multiple versions of Windows XP:

>>

>> Even me? Thanks

>>

>>>- Home

>>>- Professional

>>

>> XP Pro. Sig updated.

>>

>>>and different hardware versions for the Professional version:

>>>- x86 (32-bit)

>>>- x64 (64-bit)

>>

>> Dell Inspiron 9400. I think that's a 64-bit processor, but I could be

>> wrong.

>

> The vast majority of pre-builts will NOT install a 64-bit version of

> Windows. Lack of driver support. Lack of application compatibility. They

> want to reduce their tech service calls but 64-bit (Windows XP Pro or

> Vista) won't do that. They don't want to deal with the headaches of

> Pro/Vista x64, either.

>

>>>So WHICH version of Windows XP are you using? If it is Windows XP Pro

>>>x64, dump Acronis.

>>

>> I guess that's the problem. It has been dumped.

>

> If you right-click on the My Computer desktop icon and look at Properties

> under the General tab, it should say x64 if that is what is installed. If

> you are using the Fisher-Price fluff desktop, run the System Properties

> applet in Control Panel.

>

> I'm still trying to find a decent replacement for TI Home v11. Some are

> close but it seems you have to decide what to trade off for features.

> Roxio has their BackOnTrack but isn't everything that I want and there are

> some users reporting issues with it (but there are less posts about

> problem but then maybe its users aren't as vocal).

>

> If you do have x64 of Windows XP Pro or Vista, my advice is to definitely

> find something else. If you are using the x86 (32bit) versions of those

> OS'es, make damn sure that you set TI Home to run its tasks at LOW

> PRIORITY. At high priority, the backup/restore completes faster but your

> host will be nearly unusable (it will look hung). At medium priority,

> there will be a huge lag in responsiveness of your host. I'm still using

> a 6-year old AMD Athlon 3200+ (just 1 processor) with 2GB RAM. Your

> hardware may be newer and more capable (faster, more cores, more memory)

> but I would still suggest running the tasks at low priority if they have

> any chance of overlapping when you want to use the host. If you schedule

> the jobs to run while you are sleeping then you could use high priority

> (but forget using the host during that time).

Guest Three Lefts

Guest Three Lefts

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On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:33:06 +0100, Juergen Meyer

<juergen.ul.meyer@gmx.de> wrote:

>It had been a good idea, but in practice it's a horror story.

>Imagine, you make a separate backup every month.

>If you now browse your computer from the explorer for certain files,

>Acronis also searches within the tib.files.

>This makes the computer incredible slow, especially on the network.

>The computer freezes and additionally, after a certain time, the

>computer mostly crashes.

>

>As long as you only search in directories not containing tib.files,

>all runs fine.

>

>The other problem: If you have more than one tib.file, you can't see

>in the explorer which tib.file contains the file you were looking for

>(Is it the newer backup or not).

>

>So in my opinion Acronis should implement an own search routine, not

>using the explorer. This would avoid a lot of problems.

>

>rgds

>Juergen

 

Several more reasons not to touch this product with a 10-foot pole.

Guest Telstar

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"Three Lefts" <spamtrap@spamtrap.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:58:04 -0000, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>

>>The only problem I have ever had with TI was corrupt image due to memory

>>issues.

>>Whereas Carbonite did cause issues with other software.

>>You have a problem with your specific configuration that caused this

>

> Properly-written software does not cause a system to hang no matter

> the configuration. Of course, a properly-designed OS would not hang no

> matter what the application software does. Windows falls just a teeny

> bit short of that ideal.

 

 

Idiot.

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"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

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> "Three Lefts" wrote in message

> news:v2vhs31of1u9ois9vcu6huii2p11aampld@4ax.com...

>>I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

>>

>> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

>> the day was spend trying to recover.

>>

>> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

>> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB free).

>> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

>> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>>

>> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>>

>> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents. All

>> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

>> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

>> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>>

>> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I immediately

>> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>>

>> I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it if

>> it worked. Sadly, it did not.

>>

>> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

>> Office 2007 Pro.

>>

>> I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

>> especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not guarantee

>> a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or so

>> or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

>> files that changed in between.

>>

>> --

>> Windows XP

>

> Geez, even you know there are multiple versions of Windows XP:

> - Home

> - Professional

> and different hardware versions for the Professional version:

> - x86 (32-bit)

> - x64 (64-bit)

>

> So WHICH version of Windows XP are you using? If it is Windows XP Pro

> x64, dump Acronis. We had to. When creating a backup task, TrueImage

> (TI) freezes on the screen that would normally list the available

> destinations. Apparently it doesn't like the 64-bit drivers used to poll

> the drives or some of them and then it locks up. I had it create its

> Secure Zone (a hidden partition which I have on a 2nd hard disk) and I can

> reboot and hit F11 to run its recovery manager (before Windows loads) to

> do a backup or restore but that is just too much of a pain in the ass, is

> entirely manual, and obviates the purpose of periodically running

> scheduled backups.

>

> Acronis says that TI v11 supports Windows XP x64. They lie. Other users

> of WinXP Pro x64 also have problems with TI. Also, there are several

> important features missing in their Home version; i.e., it is crippled.

> Doesn't have a start date when scheduling tasks, doesn't support Volume

> Shadow Copy service (to make sure inuse files get backed up), has never

> and still does not obey the quotas you set regarding max disk space and

> backup count (so I have to use the Secure Zone to make sure TI doesn't

> consume the entire OS partition and render the OS unusable), and lots of

> other problems that you can read about in their forums.

>

> I consider TrueImage (any version) "Home" to be lureware. If you have any

> problems with it or discover it is lacking basic features to provide a

> reasonable personal backup program, the excuse that Acronis gives is to

> pay twice as much for their Workstation version but, of course, no

> guarantees the problems or deficiences actually get addressed in the

> pricier version.

 

Idiot.

Guest Telstar

Guest Telstar

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

 

"Three Lefts" <spamtrap@spamtrap.invalid> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:33:06 +0100, Juergen Meyer

> <juergen.ul.meyer@gmx.de> wrote:

>

>>It had been a good idea, but in practice it's a horror story.

>>Imagine, you make a separate backup every month.

>>If you now browse your computer from the explorer for certain files,

>>Acronis also searches within the tib.files.

>>This makes the computer incredible slow, especially on the network.

>>The computer freezes and additionally, after a certain time, the

>>computer mostly crashes.

>>

>>As long as you only search in directories not containing tib.files,

>>all runs fine.

>>

>>The other problem: If you have more than one tib.file, you can't see

>>in the explorer which tib.file contains the file you were looking for

>>(Is it the newer backup or not).

>>

>>So in my opinion Acronis should implement an own search routine, not

>>using the explorer. This would avoid a lot of problems.

>>

>>rgds

>>Juergen

>

> Several more reasons not to touch this product with a 10-foot pole.

 

Idiot troll.

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

Limited vocabulary?

 

"Telstar" <none@none> wrote in message

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>

> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

> news:G_2dncbdcKP3vFTanZ2dnUVZ_saknZ2d@comcast.com...

>> "Three Lefts" wrote in message

>> news:v2vhs31of1u9ois9vcu6huii2p11aampld@4ax.com...

>>>I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

>>>

>>> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

>>> the day was spend trying to recover.

>>>

>>> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

>>> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB free).

>>> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

>>> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>>>

>>> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>>>

>>> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents. All

>>> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

>>> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

>>> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>>>

>>> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I immediately

>>> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>>>

>>> I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it if

>>> it worked. Sadly, it did not.

>>>

>>> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

>>> Office 2007 Pro.

>>>

>>> I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

>>> especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not guarantee

>>> a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or so

>>> or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

>>> files that changed in between.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Windows XP

>>

>> Geez, even you know there are multiple versions of Windows XP:

>> - Home

>> - Professional

>> and different hardware versions for the Professional version:

>> - x86 (32-bit)

>> - x64 (64-bit)

>>

>> So WHICH version of Windows XP are you using? If it is Windows XP Pro

>> x64, dump Acronis. We had to. When creating a backup task, TrueImage

>> (TI) freezes on the screen that would normally list the available

>> destinations. Apparently it doesn't like the 64-bit drivers used to poll

>> the drives or some of them and then it locks up. I had it create its

>> Secure Zone (a hidden partition which I have on a 2nd hard disk) and I

>> can reboot and hit F11 to run its recovery manager (before Windows loads)

>> to do a backup or restore but that is just too much of a pain in the ass,

>> is entirely manual, and obviates the purpose of periodically running

>> scheduled backups.

>>

>> Acronis says that TI v11 supports Windows XP x64. They lie. Other users

>> of WinXP Pro x64 also have problems with TI. Also, there are several

>> important features missing in their Home version; i.e., it is crippled.

>> Doesn't have a start date when scheduling tasks, doesn't support Volume

>> Shadow Copy service (to make sure inuse files get backed up), has never

>> and still does not obey the quotas you set regarding max disk space and

>> backup count (so I have to use the Secure Zone to make sure TI doesn't

>> consume the entire OS partition and render the OS unusable), and lots of

>> other problems that you can read about in their forums.

>>

>> I consider TrueImage (any version) "Home" to be lureware. If you have

>> any problems with it or discover it is lacking basic features to provide

>> a reasonable personal backup program, the excuse that Acronis gives is to

>> pay twice as much for their Workstation version but, of course, no

>> guarantees the problems or deficiences actually get addressed in the

>> pricier version.

>

> Idiot.

>

>

Guest Three Lefts

Guest Three Lefts

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:43:40 -0800, "Telstar" <none@none> wrote:

>

>"Three Lefts" <spamtrap@spamtrap.invalid> wrote in message

>news:d99is3pu0rtmeo3la0jfcp51dgb9d54mkn@4ax.com...

>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 08:58:04 -0000, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:

>>

>>>The only problem I have ever had with TI was corrupt image due to memory

>>>issues.

>>>Whereas Carbonite did cause issues with other software.

>>>You have a problem with your specific configuration that caused this

>>

>> Properly-written software does not cause a system to hang no matter

>> the configuration. Of course, a properly-designed OS would not hang no

>> matter what the application software does. Windows falls just a teeny

>> bit short of that ideal.

>

>Idiot.

 

How so? Or are you 14?

Guest Three Lefts

Guest Three Lefts

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:47:50 -0800, "Telstar" <none@none> wrote:

>

>"Three Lefts" <spamtrap@spamtrap.invalid> wrote in message

>news:5quis390048b9blgjgg7oi747ivrg61fjl@4ax.com...

>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:33:06 +0100, Juergen Meyer

>> <juergen.ul.meyer@gmx.de> wrote:

>>

>>>It had been a good idea, but in practice it's a horror story.

>>>Imagine, you make a separate backup every month.

>>>If you now browse your computer from the explorer for certain files,

>>>Acronis also searches within the tib.files.

>>>This makes the computer incredible slow, especially on the network.

>>>The computer freezes and additionally, after a certain time, the

>>>computer mostly crashes.

>>>

>>>As long as you only search in directories not containing tib.files,

>>>all runs fine.

>>>

>>>The other problem: If you have more than one tib.file, you can't see

>>>in the explorer which tib.file contains the file you were looking for

>>>(Is it the newer backup or not).

>>>

>>>So in my opinion Acronis should implement an own search routine, not

>>>using the explorer. This would avoid a lot of problems.

>>>

>>>rgds

>>>Juergen

>>

>> Several more reasons not to touch this product with a 10-foot pole.

>

>Idiot troll.

 

Wow. You doubled your vocabulary, but the content is still zero.

Guest Three Lefts

Guest Three Lefts

Posted
Posted

Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:03:17 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>Limited vocabulary?

 

Not so much. In another razor-like repartee, he used 2 words. No doubt

engaging both brain cells. He's probably resting now...

 

 

>"Telstar" <none@none> wrote in message

>news:%23Te92bAfIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

>> news:G_2dncbdcKP3vFTanZ2dnUVZ_saknZ2d@comcast.com...

>>> "Three Lefts" wrote in message

>>> news:v2vhs31of1u9ois9vcu6huii2p11aampld@4ax.com...

>>>>I guess all of the dire warnings on Amazon and elsewhere are valid.

>>>>

>>>> This afternoon, I downloaded Acronis True Image 11 Home. The rest of

>>>> the day was spend trying to recover.

>>>>

>>>> The install seemed to go OK. I then tried to do a full disk image

>>>> backup. My hard disk is 111GB of which about 31GB is used (80GB free).

>>>> It said it was going to do 2 processes. I only saw one, but that one

>>>> took about 40 minutes, so I might have missed something.

>>>>

>>>> When it was done, I had a .tib file about 18GB in size.

>>>>

>>>> I then tried to Mount the volume so I could look at its contents. All

>>>> hell broke loose. The system froze up so solidly that I could barely

>>>> start teh Task Manager, and when I could, it was 2-3 minutes between

>>>> responses. It showed about 7-8 Acronis tasks (not processes).

>>>>

>>>> I finally had to reset the system. When it came back up, I immediately

>>>> uninstalled the program and deleted all traces (probably not).

>>>>

>>>> I found the human factors mediocre, at best, but would have kept it if

>>>> it worked. Sadly, it did not.

>>>>

>>>> I am ruinning Windows XP with all the latest updates. I also have

>>>> Office 2007 Pro.

>>>>

>>>> I am running Carbonite online backup. That is a pleasure to use --

>>>> especially with the new versioning feature. It just does not guarantee

>>>> a perfect 100% restore. I was hoping to use Acronis every month or so

>>>> or whenever I madre any system changes and then Carbonite for any

>>>> files that changed in between.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Windows XP

>>>

>>> Geez, even you know there are multiple versions of Windows XP:

>>> - Home

>>> - Professional

>>> and different hardware versions for the Professional version:

>>> - x86 (32-bit)

>>> - x64 (64-bit)

>>>

>>> So WHICH version of Windows XP are you using? If it is Windows XP Pro

>>> x64, dump Acronis. We had to. When creating a backup task, TrueImage

>>> (TI) freezes on the screen that would normally list the available

>>> destinations. Apparently it doesn't like the 64-bit drivers used to poll

>>> the drives or some of them and then it locks up. I had it create its

>>> Secure Zone (a hidden partition which I have on a 2nd hard disk) and I

>>> can reboot and hit F11 to run its recovery manager (before Windows loads)

>>> to do a backup or restore but that is just too much of a pain in the ass,

>>> is entirely manual, and obviates the purpose of periodically running

>>> scheduled backups.

>>>

>>> Acronis says that TI v11 supports Windows XP x64. They lie. Other users

>>> of WinXP Pro x64 also have problems with TI. Also, there are several

>>> important features missing in their Home version; i.e., it is crippled.

>>> Doesn't have a start date when scheduling tasks, doesn't support Volume

>>> Shadow Copy service (to make sure inuse files get backed up), has never

>>> and still does not obey the quotas you set regarding max disk space and

>>> backup count (so I have to use the Secure Zone to make sure TI doesn't

>>> consume the entire OS partition and render the OS unusable), and lots of

>>> other problems that you can read about in their forums.

>>>

>>> I consider TrueImage (any version) "Home" to be lureware. If you have

>>> any problems with it or discover it is lacking basic features to provide

>>> a reasonable personal backup program, the excuse that Acronis gives is to

>>> pay twice as much for their Workstation version but, of course, no

>>> guarantees the problems or deficiences actually get addressed in the

>>> pricier version.

>>

>> Idiot.

>>

>>

Guest Sam

Guest Sam

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Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine - Use of ShadowProtect Desktop Program

 

Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine - Use of ShadowProtect Desktop Program

 

I am planning to purchase a new Dell computer in the next month or two with

Vista Business edition. I did some research concerning the Vista complete

backup program and felt I needed a better backup program. The ShadowProtect

Desktop program appeared to have the features I am looking for.

 

Glad to read that you are using this backup program with Vista and not

having any problems. Any thoughts, cautions, and/or suggestions that you

might have for a new user of ShadowProtect Desktop program, would be very

much appreciated. Thanks, Sam

 

 

"rbwilson" <rbwilson@nospam.com> wrote in message

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> Take a look at ShadowProtect Desktop 3.1 at http://www.storagecraft.com .

> It offers continous incremental backups, bare metal restore, output to

> networked attached storage as well as local devices, and has an excellent

> user forum, including quick responses there from the company. It was

> reviewed well by PC Mag - see

> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2254465,00.asp . It's a little more

> costly than TrueImage, but in my opinion worth the money. I'm using it on

> a MS Vista Premium PC with no problems. They offer a free trial version.

Guest Richard Herb

Guest Richard Herb

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Posted

Re: Acronis Truie Image froze my machine

 

 

> How about this: You continue usingAcronis. I'll continue using

> Carbonite. We'll both be happy.

 

funny stuff

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