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Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows OS -

xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer (dual

boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was installed so

that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer (the one I am using

now). It was installed correctly but could not activate - "according to our

records, the number of times you can activate windows with this product key

has been exceeded"

 

Any quick solution pls?

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Guest Alias

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Tanti wrote:

> Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows OS -

> xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer (dual

> boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was installed so

> that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer (the one I am using

> now). It was installed correctly but could not activate - "according to our

> records, the number of times you can activate windows with this product key

> has been exceeded"

>

> Any quick solution pls?

 

Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have been

exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

 

I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of XP.

 

Alias

Guest Tanti

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Many thanks Alias

 

Yes it is an original copy, I tried to phone on number indicated but no luck

(no reply). My location is Malta and number indicated is 0800 765432

 

"Alias" wrote:

> Tanti wrote:

> > Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows OS -

> > xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer (dual

> > boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was installed so

> > that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer (the one I am using

> > now). It was installed correctly but could not activate - "according to our

> > records, the number of times you can activate windows with this product key

> > has been exceeded"

> >

> > Any quick solution pls?

>

> Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have been

> exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

>

> I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of XP.

>

> Alias

>

Guest Alias

Guest Alias

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Tanti wrote:

> Many thanks Alias

>

> Yes it is an original copy, I tried to phone on number indicated but no luck

> (no reply). My location is Malta and number indicated is 0800 765432

 

Try dialing 0044 800 765432, as that number is a toll free call in the

UK and when you dial the UK from any other EU country, you gotta remove

the zero before 800. Ain't activation great?

 

Alias

>

> "Alias" wrote:

>

>> Tanti wrote:

>>> Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows OS -

>>> xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer (dual

>>> boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was installed so

>>> that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer (the one I am using

>>> now). It was installed correctly but could not activate - "according to our

>>> records, the number of times you can activate windows with this product key

>>> has been exceeded"

>>>

>>> Any quick solution pls?

>> Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have been

>> exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

>>

>> I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of XP.

>>

>> Alias

>>

Guest Tanti

Guest Tanti

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Thanks Alias once again ............. nobody is answering the phone

("answering your call is currently unavailable". I suppose I have to call on

Monday (office hours)?

 

 

"Alias" wrote:

> Tanti wrote:

> > Many thanks Alias

> >

> > Yes it is an original copy, I tried to phone on number indicated but no luck

> > (no reply). My location is Malta and number indicated is 0800 765432

>

> Try dialing 0044 800 765432, as that number is a toll free call in the

> UK and when you dial the UK from any other EU country, you gotta remove

> the zero before 800. Ain't activation great?

>

> Alias

> >

> > "Alias" wrote:

> >

> >> Tanti wrote:

> >>> Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows OS -

> >>> xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer (dual

> >>> boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was installed so

> >>> that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer (the one I am using

> >>> now). It was installed correctly but could not activate - "according to our

> >>> records, the number of times you can activate windows with this product key

> >>> has been exceeded"

> >>>

> >>> Any quick solution pls?

> >> Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have been

> >> exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

> >>

> >> I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of XP.

> >>

> >> Alias

> >>

>

Guest Alias

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Tanti wrote:

> Thanks Alias once again ............. nobody is answering the phone

> ("answering your call is currently unavailable". I suppose I have to call on

> Monday (office hours)?

 

I guess. Aren't there any MVPs here who know?

 

Alias

>

>

> "Alias" wrote:

>

>> Tanti wrote:

>>> Many thanks Alias

>>>

>>> Yes it is an original copy, I tried to phone on number indicated but no luck

>>> (no reply). My location is Malta and number indicated is 0800 765432

>> Try dialing 0044 800 765432, as that number is a toll free call in the

>> UK and when you dial the UK from any other EU country, you gotta remove

>> the zero before 800. Ain't activation great?

>>

>> Alias

>>> "Alias" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Tanti wrote:

>>>>> Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows OS -

>>>>> xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer (dual

>>>>> boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was installed so

>>>>> that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer (the one I am using

>>>>> now). It was installed correctly but could not activate - "according to our

>>>>> records, the number of times you can activate windows with this product key

>>>>> has been exceeded"

>>>>>

>>>>> Any quick solution pls?

>>>> Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have been

>>>> exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

>>>>

>>>> I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of XP.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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You should be trying the internet activation. When it fails with the

"excessive number of activations" message, you need to keep the activation

window open and use the phone numbers listed on that screen. There are some

codes on that screen that the activation agent will need you to read or

enter on the phone keys. If you close the screen and then try to call you

will just have to run the activation wizard all over again before the agent

can help you. If the procedure is different in your region the activation

screen should contain additional instructions.

 

"Tanti" <Tanti@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks Alias once again ............. nobody is answering the phone

> ("answering your call is currently unavailable". I suppose I have to call

> on

> Monday (office hours)?

>

>

> "Alias" wrote:

>

>> Tanti wrote:

>> > Many thanks Alias

>> >

>> > Yes it is an original copy, I tried to phone on number indicated but no

>> > luck

>> > (no reply). My location is Malta and number indicated is 0800 765432

>>

>> Try dialing 0044 800 765432, as that number is a toll free call in the

>> UK and when you dial the UK from any other EU country, you gotta remove

>> the zero before 800. Ain't activation great?

>>

>> Alias

>> >

>> > "Alias" wrote:

>> >

>> >> Tanti wrote:

>> >>> Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid

>> >>> windows OS -

>> >>> xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer

>> >>> (dual

>> >>> boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was

>> >>> installed so

>> >>> that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer (the one I

>> >>> am using

>> >>> now). It was installed correctly but could not activate - "according

>> >>> to our

>> >>> records, the number of times you can activate windows with this

>> >>> product key

>> >>> has been exceeded"

>> >>>

>> >>> Any quick solution pls?

>> >> Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have

>> >> been

>> >> exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

>> >>

>> >> I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of

>> >> XP.

>> >>

>> >> Alias

>> >>

>>

Guest M.I.5¾

Guest M.I.5¾

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"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fqbmbi$q7t$1@aioe.org...

> Tanti wrote:

>> Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows

>> OS - xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same computer

>> (dual boot). I have formatted the partition where xp professional was

>> installed so that I cound reinstall xp professional on my new computer

>> (the one I am using now). It was installed correctly but could not

>> activate - "according to our records, the number of times you can

>> activate windows with this product key has been exceeded"

>>

>> Any quick solution pls?

>

> Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have been

> exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

>

> I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of XP.

>

>

 

Also, it seems that the Vista licence also entitles you to add XP as a dual

boot setup, provided you match like for like (i.e. Vista Home Premium

edition does not entitle you to add XP pro, only XP home).

 

This was not something MS originally allowed but has be conceeded relatively

recently.

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it always

has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

 

You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if you own

a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of Vista.

However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading) depends, as it always

has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of functionality from

the previous edition of Windows to the new. It has always worked this way

with previous versions of Windows as well.

 

The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of functionality

from the old version to the new is disallowed. A clean install is then

required. The right to upgrade is covered in the upgrade edition license

but the methodology must be a clean install.

 

You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a business

edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when going from a

business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP Home to any

edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional to Vista Home Basic

or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a business edition to home

edition) and have to do a clean install instead. The upgrade edition

license allows such an "upgrade" (a better term would be "migration") but

the methodology required is a clean install.

 

This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from Windows 2000

to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home edition). The

XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an upgrade path but it must be

performed with a clean install.

 

"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fqbmbi$q7t$1@aioe.org...

>> Tanti wrote:

>>> Basically the problem relates to activation. I have two valid windows

>>> OS - xp professional and vista. Both were installed on the same

>>> computer (dual boot). I have formatted the partition where xp

>>> professional was installed so that I cound reinstall xp professional on

>>> my new computer (the one I am using now). It was installed correctly

>>> but could not activate - "according to our records, the number of times

>>> you can activate windows with this product key has been exceeded"

>>>

>>> Any quick solution pls?

>>

>> Use the phone activation method. The LIE that activation times have been

>> exceeded is a flaw in the Windows Product Activation software.

>>

>> I am assuming, of course, that you have a Retail (boxed) version of XP.

>>

>>

>

> Also, it seems that the Vista licence also entitles you to add XP as a

> dual boot setup, provided you match like for like (i.e. Vista Home Premium

> edition does not entitle you to add XP pro, only XP home).

>

> This was not something MS originally allowed but has be conceeded

> relatively recently.

>

Guest M.I.5¾

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"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it always

> has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

>

> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if you

> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of Vista.

> However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading) depends, as it

> always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It has

> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

>

> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A clean

> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the upgrade

> edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

>

> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when going

> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP Home

> to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional to Vista

> Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a business

> edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install instead. The

> upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a better term would be

> "migration") but the methodology required is a clean install.

>

> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from Windows 2000

> to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home edition).

> The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an upgrade path but it

> must be performed with a clean install.

>

 

I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

 

If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS will

allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no extra cost.

Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now sell dual boot PCs

(Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with only a Vista licence

because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

 

I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but the

Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you can

google as well as I can.

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

 

"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it always

>> has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

>>

>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if you

>> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of Vista.

>> However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading) depends, as it

>> always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It has

>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

>>

>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A clean

>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the upgrade

>> edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

>>

>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when going

>> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP Home

>> to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional to Vista

>> Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a business

>> edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install instead. The

>> upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a better term would be

>> "migration") but the methodology required is a clean install.

>>

>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from Windows

>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an upgrade

>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

>>

>

> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

>

> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS will

> allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no extra cost.

> Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now sell dual boot

> PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with only a Vista licence

> because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

>

> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but the

> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you can

> google as well as I can.

>

Guest M.I.5¾

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"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

>

 

Im was talking about exactly what I said.

> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:47cd0343$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

>>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it

>>> always has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

>>>

>>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if you

>>> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of Vista.

>>> However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading) depends, as it

>>> always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

>>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It has

>>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

>>>

>>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

>>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A clean

>>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the

>>> upgrade edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

>>>

>>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

>>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when going

>>> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP Home

>>> to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional to Vista

>>> Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a business

>>> edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install instead. The

>>> upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a better term would be

>>> "migration") but the methodology required is a clean install.

>>>

>>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

>>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from Windows

>>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

>>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an upgrade

>>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

>>>

>>

>> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

>>

>> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS

>> will allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no extra

>> cost. Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now sell dual

>> boot PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with only a Vista

>> licence because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

>>

>> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but the

>> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you can

>> google as well as I can.

>>

>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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"When I use a word it means exactly what I intend it to mean," said Alice.

 

"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:9AC69C13-8A75-4757-BC0C-5484989D2369@microsoft.com...

>> Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

>>

>

> Im was talking about exactly what I said.

>

>> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

>> news:47cd0343$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>>>

>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

>>>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it

>>>> always has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

>>>>

>>>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if you

>>>> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of

>>>> Vista. However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading) depends,

>>>> as it always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

>>>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It has

>>>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

>>>>

>>>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

>>>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A clean

>>>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the

>>>> upgrade edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

>>>>

>>>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

>>>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when going

>>>> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP

>>>> Home to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional to

>>>> Vista Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a

>>>> business edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install

>>>> instead. The upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a

>>>> better term would be "migration") but the methodology required is a

>>>> clean install.

>>>>

>>>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

>>>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from Windows

>>>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

>>>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an upgrade

>>>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

>>>>

>>>

>>> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

>>>

>>> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS

>>> will allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no extra

>>> cost. Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now sell

>>> dual boot PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with only a

>>> Vista licence because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

>>>

>>> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but the

>>> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you can

>>> google as well as I can.

>>>

>>

>

>

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"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> "When I use a word it means exactly what I intend it to mean," said Alice.

>

 

Prexactamundo.

> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:47ce4d78$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> news:9AC69C13-8A75-4757-BC0C-5484989D2369@microsoft.com...

>>> Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

>>>

>>

>> Im was talking about exactly what I said.

>>

>>> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

>>> news:47cd0343$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>>>>

>>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

>>>>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it

>>>>> always has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

>>>>>

>>>>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if

>>>>> you own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of

>>>>> Vista. However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading) depends,

>>>>> as it always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

>>>>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It has

>>>>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

>>>>>

>>>>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

>>>>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A clean

>>>>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the

>>>>> upgrade edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

>>>>>

>>>>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

>>>>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when

>>>>> going from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade

>>>>> XP Home to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP

>>>>> Professional to Vista Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality

>>>>> when going from a business edition to home edition) and have to do a

>>>>> clean install instead. The upgrade edition license allows such an

>>>>> "upgrade" (a better term would be "migration") but the methodology

>>>>> required is a clean install.

>>>>>

>>>>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

>>>>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from Windows

>>>>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

>>>>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an upgrade

>>>>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

>>>>

>>>> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS

>>>> will allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no

>>>> extra cost. Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now

>>>> sell dual boot PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with

>>>> only a Vista licence because this is considered to cover the XP as

>>>> well.

>>>>

>>>> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but the

>>>> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you can

>>>> google as well as I can.

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

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Guest Ken Blake, MVP

Posted
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Re: REACTIVATION XP PROF

 

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:07:43 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

> "When I use a word it means exactly what I intend it to mean," said Alice.

 

 

No, no! It was Humpty-Dumpty *to* Alice.

 

My favorite quotation, in full:

 

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

"it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less."

 

"The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so

many different things."

 

"The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's

all."

 

 

 

> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:47ce4d78$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

> >

> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> > news:9AC69C13-8A75-4757-BC0C-5484989D2369@microsoft.com...

> >> Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

> >>

> >

> > Im was talking about exactly what I said.

> >

> >> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

> >> news:47cd0343$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

> >>>

> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> >>> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

> >>>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it

> >>>> always has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

> >>>>

> >>>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if you

> >>>> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of

> >>>> Vista. However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading) depends,

> >>>> as it always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

> >>>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It has

> >>>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

> >>>>

> >>>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

> >>>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A clean

> >>>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the

> >>>> upgrade edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

> >>>>

> >>>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

> >>>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when going

> >>>> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP

> >>>> Home to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional to

> >>>> Vista Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a

> >>>> business edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install

> >>>> instead. The upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a

> >>>> better term would be "migration") but the methodology required is a

> >>>> clean install.

> >>>>

> >>>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

> >>>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from Windows

> >>>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

> >>>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an upgrade

> >>>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

> >>>

> >>> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS

> >>> will allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no extra

> >>> cost. Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now sell

> >>> dual boot PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with only a

> >>> Vista licence because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

> >>>

> >>> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but the

> >>> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you can

> >>> google as well as I can.

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

 

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Thanks for the update. LOL.

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

news:pci0t3p4q32hdvjn7hvnfr8qalh2qqaovn@4ax.com...

> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:07:43 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>

>> "When I use a word it means exactly what I intend it to mean," said

>> Alice.

>

>

> No, no! It was Humpty-Dumpty *to* Alice.

>

> My favorite quotation, in full:

>

> "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

> "it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less."

>

> "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so

> many different things."

>

> "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's

> all."

>

>

>

>

>> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

>> news:47ce4d78$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>> >

>> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> > news:9AC69C13-8A75-4757-BC0C-5484989D2369@microsoft.com...

>> >> Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

>> >>

>> >

>> > Im was talking about exactly what I said.

>> >

>> >> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

>> >> news:47cd0343$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>> >>>

>> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >>> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

>> >>>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it

>> >>>> always has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if

>> >>>> you

>> >>>> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of

>> >>>> Vista. However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading)

>> >>>> depends,

>> >>>> as it always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

>> >>>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It

>> >>>> has

>> >>>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

>> >>>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A

>> >>>> clean

>> >>>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the

>> >>>> upgrade edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

>> >>>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when

>> >>>> going

>> >>>> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP

>> >>>> Home to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional

>> >>>> to

>> >>>> Vista Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a

>> >>>> business edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install

>> >>>> instead. The upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a

>> >>>> better term would be "migration") but the methodology required is a

>> >>>> clean install.

>> >>>>

>> >>>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

>> >>>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from

>> >>>> Windows

>> >>>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

>> >>>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an

>> >>>> upgrade

>> >>>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

>> >>>>

>> >>>

>> >>> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

>> >>>

>> >>> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS

>> >>> will allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no

>> >>> extra

>> >>> cost. Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now sell

>> >>> dual boot PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with only a

>> >>> Vista licence because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

>> >>>

>> >>> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but

>> >>> the

>> >>> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you

>> >>> can

>> >>> google as well as I can.

>> >>>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

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Re: REACTIVATION XP PROF

 

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:19:10 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the update. LOL.

 

 

My pleasure. As I said, it's my favorite. It's profound and humorous

at the same time.

 

 

 

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> news:pci0t3p4q32hdvjn7hvnfr8qalh2qqaovn@4ax.com...

> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:07:43 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

> > <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> >> "When I use a word it means exactly what I intend it to mean," said

> >> Alice.

> >

> >

> > No, no! It was Humpty-Dumpty *to* Alice.

> >

> > My favorite quotation, in full:

> >

> > "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

> > "it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less."

> >

> > "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so

> > many different things."

> >

> > "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's

> > all."

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

> >> news:47ce4d78$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

> >> >

> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> >> > news:9AC69C13-8A75-4757-BC0C-5484989D2369@microsoft.com...

> >> >> Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> > Im was talking about exactly what I said.

> >> >

> >> >> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

> >> >> news:47cd0343$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

> >> >>>

> >> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> >> >>> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

> >> >>>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as it

> >> >>>> always has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at all.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista if

> >> >>>> you

> >> >>>> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of

> >> >>>> Vista. However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading)

> >> >>>> depends,

> >> >>>> as it always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss of

> >> >>>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new. It

> >> >>>> has

> >> >>>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

> >> >>>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A

> >> >>>> clean

> >> >>>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the

> >> >>>> upgrade edition license but the methodology must be a clean install.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to a

> >> >>>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when

> >> >>>> going

> >> >>>> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade XP

> >> >>>> Home to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP Professional

> >> >>>> to

> >> >>>> Vista Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going from a

> >> >>>> business edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install

> >> >>>> instead. The upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a

> >> >>>> better term would be "migration") but the methodology required is a

> >> >>>> clean install.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

> >> >>>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from

> >> >>>> Windows

> >> >>>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

> >> >>>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an

> >> >>>> upgrade

> >> >>>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

> >> >>>>

> >> >>>

> >> >>> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then MS

> >> >>> will allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no

> >> >>> extra

> >> >>> cost. Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now sell

> >> >>> dual boot PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with only a

> >> >>> Vista licence because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

> >> >>>

> >> >>> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens, but

> >> >>> the

> >> >>> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure you

> >> >>> can

> >> >>> google as well as I can.

> >> >>>

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >

> > --

> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:19:10 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>

>> Thanks for the update. LOL.

>

>

> My pleasure. As I said, it's my favorite. It's profound and humorous

> at the same time.

>

 

Something that the Rev. Dodgson excelled at.

>

>

>

>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

>> news:pci0t3p4q32hdvjn7hvnfr8qalh2qqaovn@4ax.com...

>> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:07:43 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

>> > <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>> >

>> >> "When I use a word it means exactly what I intend it to mean," said

>> >> Alice.

>> >

>> >

>> > No, no! It was Humpty-Dumpty *to* Alice.

>> >

>> > My favorite quotation, in full:

>> >

>> > "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone,

>> > "it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less."

>> >

>> > "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean so

>> > many different things."

>> >

>> > "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master--that's

>> > all."

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

>> >> news:47ce4d78$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>> >> >

>> >> > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >> > news:9AC69C13-8A75-4757-BC0C-5484989D2369@microsoft.com...

>> >> >> Are you talking about Downgrade Rights?

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> > Im was talking about exactly what I said.

>> >> >

>> >> >> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message

>> >> >> news:47cd0343$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> >> >>> news:E15D9DE6-8D99-4E04-B3D0-ED55905423D8@microsoft.com...

>> >> >>>> No, the license does not add that. Licensing works the same as

>> >> >>>> it

>> >> >>>> always has. Nor is how the upgrade matrix works changed any at

>> >> >>>> all.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> You are entitled to use a Vista upgrade edition to install Vista

>> >> >>>> if

>> >> >>>> you

>> >> >>>> own a license for Windows 2000, XP x86 or x64, or another copy of

>> >> >>>> Vista. However, the ability to "ugrade the bits" (upgrading)

>> >> >>>> depends,

>> >> >>>> as it always has, on whether or not the upgrade will cause a loss

>> >> >>>> of

>> >> >>>> functionality from the previous edition of Windows to the new.

>> >> >>>> It

>> >> >>>> has

>> >> >>>> always worked this way with previous versions of Windows as well.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> The key concept is that any upgrade that will cause a loss of

>> >> >>>> functionality from the old version to the new is disallowed. A

>> >> >>>> clean

>> >> >>>> install is then required. The right to upgrade is covered in the

>> >> >>>> upgrade edition license but the methodology must be a clean

>> >> >>>> install.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> You can always upgrade the bits when going from a home edition to

>> >> >>>> a

>> >> >>>> business edition but you have to do a clean (custom) install when

>> >> >>>> going

>> >> >>>> from a business edition to a home edition. Thus you can upgrade

>> >> >>>> XP

>> >> >>>> Home to any edition of Vista, but you cannot upgrade XP

>> >> >>>> Professional

>> >> >>>> to

>> >> >>>> Vista Home Basic or Premium (loss of functionality when going

>> >> >>>> from a

>> >> >>>> business edition to home edition) and have to do a clean install

>> >> >>>> instead. The upgrade edition license allows such an "upgrade" (a

>> >> >>>> better term would be "migration") but the methodology required is

>> >> >>>> a

>> >> >>>> clean install.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>> This was just as true of XP. You can upgrade Windows 2000 to XP

>> >> >>>> Professional but you have to do a clean install if going from

>> >> >>>> Windows

>> >> >>>> 2000 to XP Home (loss of W2k functionalities when going to a home

>> >> >>>> edition). The XP Home upgrade edition license supports such an

>> >> >>>> upgrade

>> >> >>>> path but it must be performed with a clean install.

>> >> >>>>

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> I think you have got my point the wrong way round.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> If you have a PC with a properly licenced Vista home premium, then

>> >> >>> MS

>> >> >>> will allow you to make the PC dual boot with Windows XP home at no

>> >> >>> extra

>> >> >>> cost. Indeed some manufacturers (Fujitsu-Siemens being one) now

>> >> >>> sell

>> >> >>> dual boot PCs (Vista/XP - both OEM versions). These come with

>> >> >>> only a

>> >> >>> Vista licence because this is considered to cover the XP as well.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>> I was going to provide a link to the info from Fujitsu-Siemens,

>> >> >>> but

>> >> >>> the

>> >> >>> Internet is currently down here so I can't find it but I'm sure

>> >> >>> you

>> >> >>> can

>> >> >>> google as well as I can.

>> >> >>>

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >

>> > --

>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

> --

> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

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On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 07:56:04 -0000, "M.I.5¾"

<no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:

>

> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message

> news:4pv0t3tbciq8f8jfohmmukcb9pfcs9cp6f@4ax.com...

> > On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:19:10 -0700, "Colin Barnhorst"

> > <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

> >

> >> Thanks for the update. LOL.

> >

> >

> > My pleasure. As I said, it's my favorite. It's profound and humorous

> > at the same time.

> >

>

> Something that the Rev. Dodgson excelled at.

 

 

Indeed he did!

 

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