Put page file on a thumb drive

[Guest b11_]

I moved the page file to a thumb drive but Wxp ignores the thumb drive and

put a 1500mb page file on partition C. The registry correctly shows the

page file as being on the thumb drive. It appears that I have found another

page file bug. Would someone confirm my discovery?

[Guest Holz]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:43:00 -0800

b11_ <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I moved the page file to a thumb drive but Wxp ignores the thumb

> drive and put a 1500mb page file on partition C. The registry

> correctly shows the page file as being on the thumb drive. It appears

> that I have found another page file bug. Would someone confirm my

> discovery?

 

Not a bug. The idea is quite stupid, since the Thumb drive is slower

then you hard disk, and is primarily designed to store data and not be

as active as a page file.

A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

 

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:-)

[Guest Holz]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

> A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

 

A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

--

Live & let live, or leave.

:-)

[Guest b11_]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

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"Holz" wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

> Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

>

> > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

>

> A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

> --

> Live & let live, or leave.

> :-)

>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

You don't want to put the page file on a removable drive. Think about it.

 

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

> ______________________________________________________________

>

> "Holz" wrote:

>

>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

>> Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

>>

>> > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

>>

>> A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

>> --

>> Live & let live, or leave.

>> :-)

>>

>>

[Guest DL]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

no

 

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

> ______________________________________________________________

>

> "Holz" wrote:

>

>> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

>> Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

>>

>> > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

>>

>> A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

>> --

>> Live & let live, or leave.

>> :-)

>>

>>

[Guest b11_]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

The thumb drive would be attached to the computer whenever I use the computer!

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"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> You don't want to put the page file on a removable drive. Think about it.

>

> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C46B95B0-19E7-4056-A19B-7791AFD1391D@microsoft.com...

> >I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

> > ______________________________________________________________

> >

> > "Holz" wrote:

> >

> >> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

> >> Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

> >>

> >> > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

> >>

> >> A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

> >> --

> >> Live & let live, or leave.

> >> :-)

> >>

> >>

>

[Guest b11_]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

The hard drive is a mechanical device. The thumb drive is basicly a stick of

memory so it should be faster then the hard drive.

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"DL" wrote:

> no

>

> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C46B95B0-19E7-4056-A19B-7791AFD1391D@microsoft.com...

> >I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

> > ______________________________________________________________

> >

> > "Holz" wrote:

> >

> >> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

> >> Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

> >>

> >> > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

> >>

> >> A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

> >> --

> >> Live & let live, or leave.

> >> :-)

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest LVTravel]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

But the transfer speed (USB) is less and thumb drives have a "limited

lifetime". They will only read and write so many times before they die or

so I have heard.

 

 

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> The hard drive is a mechanical device. The thumb drive is basicly a stick

> of

> memory so it should be faster then the hard drive.

> _________________________________________________________________

>

> "DL" wrote:

>

>> no

>>

>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C46B95B0-19E7-4056-A19B-7791AFD1391D@microsoft.com...

>> >I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

>> > ______________________________________________________________

>> >

>> > "Holz" wrote:

>> >

>> >> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

>> >> Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

>> >>

>> >> A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

>> >> --

>> >> Live & let live, or leave.

>> >> :-)

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Holz]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:45:01 -0800

b11_ <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> The hard drive is a mechanical device. The thumb drive is basicly a

> stick of memory so it should be faster then the hard drive.

 

You need to Google and learn a little bit.

 

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Live & let live, or leave.

:-)

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

The usb bus cannot support the transfer speed (nor I think the bandwidth)

that you want for the pagefile. If you are going to use a separate drive

for the pagefile, be sure it is on a separate controller from the system so

that you can take advantage of asynchronius reads and writes. The ideal is

a second SATA drive if you have SATA controllers on your mobo because of the

higher transfer rate over IDE drives. If you are running out of space on

the system drive and your second drive is on the IDE cable to which the

system drive is also attached, the solution is to move files to the second

drive and leave the pagefile alone.

 

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> The thumb drive would be attached to the computer whenever I use the

> computer!

> ___________________________________________________________________

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

>> You don't want to put the page file on a removable drive. Think about

>> it.

>>

>> "b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C46B95B0-19E7-4056-A19B-7791AFD1391D@microsoft.com...

>> >I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

>> > ______________________________________________________________

>> >

>> > "Holz" wrote:

>> >

>> >> On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

>> >> Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

>> >>

>> >> A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

>> >> --

>> >> Live & let live, or leave.

>> >> :-)

>> >>

>> >>

>>

[Guest Ken Blake, MVP]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:06:01 -0800, b11_

<b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

 

 

No, it's slower. Even though it's electronic, rather than mechanical,

the limitations of the USB bus make it slower.

 

Also note that a thumb has a relatively low number of read/write

cycles it can handle. You would quickly wear out the thumb drive this

way. When it fails, Murphy predicts that it will fail at the worst

time possible, and you will lose the document you were working on,

your financial records, etc.

 

It's a very bad idea, in my view. If you are paging significantly, the

best thing you can do is add more RAM. That's much more effective than

*any* tweaking of page files devices or settings.

 

 

 

 

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> "Holz" wrote:

>

> > On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:49:19 -0800

> > Holz <holz@my-laptop.nowhere> wrote:

> >

> > > A page file must exist on a local device, removable device.

> >

> > A page file must exist on a local device, NOT removable device.

> > --

> > Live & let live, or leave.

> > :-)

> >

> >

 

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[Guest HeyBub]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

b11_ wrote:

> I thought a thumb drive is faster than a hard drive!

> ______________________________________________________________

 

It is. But the USB connection is slow, 480Mbps. Hard drives transfer data at

up to 600MBps, about ten times faster (note difference between "bits" and

"Bytes").

 

Further, USB device access is not optimized, either by the OS or the

hardware. There's usually no pre-fetch, cache, buffering or any other

tweaks.

[Guest PD43]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

b11_ <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>The hard drive is a mechanical device. The thumb drive is basicly a stick of

>memory so it should be faster then the hard drive.

 

YOU are the only one championing your position - despite all the

replies to the contrary - when YOU came here asking for assistance.

 

Know what that makes you?

[Guest M.I.5¾]

Re: Put page file on a thumb drive

 

 

"b11_" <b11@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> The hard drive is a mechanical device. The thumb drive is basicly a stick

> of

> memory so it should be faster then the hard drive.

>

 

Reading the FLASH memory drive should be faster than a hard disk. But

writing to a FLASH memory is much slower because of the way FLASH memory is

written. Basically the whole block has to be read, modified and written

back. But this is entirely academic as the USB interface is vastly slower

than the IDE or SATA interface of your hard disk.