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Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70 at

Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to move

the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F: drive.

 

It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has 16 Gb

of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move all of the

shared files onto the drive and then make it the default drive for music and

pictures.

 

What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

packed C: drive?

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Guest pfermar

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RE: New hard drive

 

use your new hard as a slave, and then clone your 40 gb hard drive onto the

160 gb, your new hard drive come with a cd utilities, check the cd if not use

true imagen acronis, or symantec ghost

 

"Stumpy" wrote:

> Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

> files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70 at

> Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to move

> the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F: drive.

>

> It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has 16 Gb

> of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move all of the

> shared files onto the drive and then make it the default drive for music and

> pictures.

>

> What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

> packed C: drive?

>

>

>

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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> Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

> files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70 at

> Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to move

> the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F: drive.

>

> It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has 16

> Gb of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move all of

> the shared files onto the drive and then make it the default drive for

> music and pictures.

>

> What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

> packed C: drive?

>

 

How exactly did you try to move the Shared Documents?

Guest JS

Guest JS

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Re: New hard drive

 

New drives like Maxtor and Western Digital (that are not OEM versions) come

with a CD that includes a drive copy utility.

 

If you have an OEM version go to the Manufacturer's web site.

 

Also have used XXCOPY in the past: http://www.xxcopy.com/index.htm

 

JS

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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> Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

> files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70 at

> Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to move

> the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F: drive.

>

> It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has 16

> Gb of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move all of

> the shared files onto the drive and then make it the default drive for

> music and pictures.

>

> What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

> packed C: drive?

>

Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

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>

> "Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

> news:%230FwQB9eIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

>> files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70

>> at Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to

>> move the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F:

>> drive.

>>

>> It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has 16

>> Gb of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move all

>> of the shared files onto the drive and then make it the default drive for

>> music and pictures.

>>

>> What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

>> packed C: drive?

>>

>

> How exactly did you try to move the Shared Documents?

>

 

Drag and drop in Windows Explorer. Doesn't work!

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:On87uP9eIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

>> news:%230FwQB9eIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

>>> files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70

>>> at Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to

>>> move the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F:

>>> drive.

>>>

>>> It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has

>>> 16 Gb of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move

>>> all of the shared files onto the drive and then make it the default

>>> drive for music and pictures.

>>>

>>> What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

>>> packed C: drive?

>>>

>>

>> How exactly did you try to move the Shared Documents?

>>

>

> Drag and drop in Windows Explorer. Doesn't work!

>

 

Right-click "Shared Documents", left-click "Properties", then

specify the new location. (I'm actually guessing here because

my current machine does not use this facility).

Guest Terry R.

Guest Terry R.

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Re: New hard drive

 

The date and time was 3/1/2008 11:13 AM, and on a whim, Stumpy pounded

out on the keyboard:

> Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

> files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70 at

> Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to move

> the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F: drive.

>

> It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has 16 Gb

> of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move all of the

> shared files onto the drive and then make it the default drive for music and

> pictures.

>

> What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

> packed C: drive?

>

>

 

I just verified the same within My Computer. Even when right-clicked

and dragged to a drive, the only option is "Create Shortcuts Here".

 

Are most of the Shared folders within My Documents? If so, create a

folder name of your choice on the new drive, then right click on the My

Documents folder on the Desktop and select Properties. Then change the

Target path to the new drive folder location.

 

--

Terry R.

 

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Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> use your new hard as a slave, and then clone your 40 gb hard drive onto

> the

> 160 gb, your new hard drive come with a cd utilities, check the cd if not

> use

> true imagen acronis, or symantec ghost

>

 

I'm afraid that the WGA or whatever the MS program that confirms my "rights"

to use the XP program might see the old computer as a new one. Maybe stop

updates or similar.

 

The new HD did come with a cloning utility.

Guest pfermar

Guest pfermar

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Re: New hard drive

 

does not true, it happens only if you change your mother board, but not when

you change your hard drive. if you change your mother board is like having a

new computer and you have to buy a new license

 

"Stumpy" wrote:

>

> "pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6FBBB25F-B9A1-4A40-8B70-D3ACEB3F62CC@microsoft.com...

> > use your new hard as a slave, and then clone your 40 gb hard drive onto

> > the

> > 160 gb, your new hard drive come with a cd utilities, check the cd if not

> > use

> > true imagen acronis, or symantec ghost

> >

>

> I'm afraid that the WGA or whatever the MS program that confirms my "rights"

> to use the XP program might see the old computer as a new one. Maybe stop

> updates or similar.

>

> The new HD did come with a cloning utility.

>

>

>

Guest Jim

Guest Jim

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote in message

> news:On87uP9eIHA.4140@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>

>> "Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

>> news:%230FwQB9eIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Our old Win XP box has a 40 GB drive that is <3% free. Removed as many

>>> files as I could, then gave up. Bought a 160 Gb Maxtor IDE ATA for $70

>>> at Fry's and installed it. Partitioned and formatted it, then tried to

>>> move the whole "shared documents" folder from the C: drive to the new F:

>>> drive.

>>>

>>> It won't go. Just makes a shortcut on the new drive. This folder has

>>> 16 Gb of Mp3s and alot of photos. Seems like a logical choice to move

>>> all of the shared files onto the drive and then make it the default

>>> drive for music and pictures.

>>>

>>> What am I doing wrong? Got any suggestions to take the load off of the

>>> packed C: drive?

>>>

>>

>> How exactly did you try to move the Shared Documents?

>>

>

> Drag and drop in Windows Explorer. Doesn't work!

>

Did your method not copy the files from one disk to another?

Your method will not change the shortcut. Thus, when you double click the

shortcut, you will get to the previous location.

If the files copied over, and I cannot see why not, then you need to change

the shortcut as well.

Jim

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Re: New hard drive

 

You don't have to buy a new license unless it is a bios-locked OEM copy of

Windows. You just have to reactivate.

 

"pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> does not true, it happens only if you change your mother board, but not

> when

> you change your hard drive. if you change your mother board is like

> having a

> new computer and you have to buy a new license

>

> "Stumpy" wrote:

>

>>

>> "pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:6FBBB25F-B9A1-4A40-8B70-D3ACEB3F62CC@microsoft.com...

>> > use your new hard as a slave, and then clone your 40 gb hard drive onto

>> > the

>> > 160 gb, your new hard drive come with a cd utilities, check the cd if

>> > not

>> > use

>> > true imagen acronis, or symantec ghost

>> >

>>

>> I'm afraid that the WGA or whatever the MS program that confirms my

>> "rights"

>> to use the XP program might see the old computer as a new one. Maybe

>> stop

>> updates or similar.

>>

>> The new HD did come with a cloning utility.

>>

>>

>>

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Re: New hard drive

 

You might have to reactivate, but I doubt it. Even if you do it is no big

deal. Either you reactivate over the net or over the phone. Unless your

Windows is not genuine there should be no problem doing one or the other.

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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>

> "pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:6FBBB25F-B9A1-4A40-8B70-D3ACEB3F62CC@microsoft.com...

>> use your new hard as a slave, and then clone your 40 gb hard drive onto

>> the

>> 160 gb, your new hard drive come with a cd utilities, check the cd if not

>> use

>> true imagen acronis, or symantec ghost

>>

>

> I'm afraid that the WGA or whatever the MS program that confirms my

> "rights" to use the XP program might see the old computer as a new one.

> Maybe stop updates or similar.

>

> The new HD did come with a cloning utility.

>

Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

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Re: New hard drive

 

>

> I just verified the same within My Computer. Even when right-clicked and

> dragged to a drive, the only option is "Create Shortcuts Here".

>

> Are most of the Shared folders within My Documents? If so, create a folder

> name of your choice on the new drive, then right click on the My Documents

> folder on the Desktop and select Properties. Then change the Target path

> to the new drive folder location.

>

 

Not really. The shared folder is in "documents and settings". If I

right-click the doc+set folder it gives me the info, but I cannot select a

new path.

Guest pfermar

Guest pfermar

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Re: New hard drive

 

I'm agreed with you, but the point here is because Stumpy he is affraid of

just because he is going to clone is 40GB hard drive with 160GB, microsoft is

going to say the he had a new computer, that is no true, I clone HD all the

time and I not even had to reactivate windows

 

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> You don't have to buy a new license unless it is a bios-locked OEM copy of

> Windows. You just have to reactivate.

>

> "pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:E468637A-BBE0-45CD-9D86-AA080795FFF2@microsoft.com...

> > does not true, it happens only if you change your mother board, but not

> > when

> > you change your hard drive. if you change your mother board is like

> > having a

> > new computer and you have to buy a new license

> >

> > "Stumpy" wrote:

> >

> >>

> >> "pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:6FBBB25F-B9A1-4A40-8B70-D3ACEB3F62CC@microsoft.com...

> >> > use your new hard as a slave, and then clone your 40 gb hard drive onto

> >> > the

> >> > 160 gb, your new hard drive come with a cd utilities, check the cd if

> >> > not

> >> > use

> >> > true imagen acronis, or symantec ghost

> >> >

> >>

> >> I'm afraid that the WGA or whatever the MS program that confirms my

> >> "rights"

> >> to use the XP program might see the old computer as a new one. Maybe

> >> stop

> >> updates or similar.

> >>

> >> The new HD did come with a cloning utility.

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> I'm agreed with you, but the point here is because Stumpy he is affraid of

> just because he is going to clone is 40GB hard drive with 160GB, microsoft

> is

> going to say the he had a new computer, that is no true, I clone HD all

> the

> time and I not even had to reactivate windows

>

> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>

>> You don't have to buy a new license unless it is a bios-locked OEM copy

>> of

>> Windows. You just have to reactivate.

>>

>>

 

Thanks for the info. Since I just want to add a new drive for storage, and

not replace the old one, I wasn't really planning on cloning the operating

system. I'm amazed I'm having a problem just scooting a folder over to a

new drive.

 

Cloning is what I'll do if the easier stuff fails.

Guest Matty

Guest Matty

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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> >

>> I just verified the same within My Computer. Even when right-clicked and

>> dragged to a drive, the only option is "Create Shortcuts Here".

>>

>> Are most of the Shared folders within My Documents? If so, create a

>> folder name of your choice on the new drive, then right click on the My

>> Documents folder on the Desktop and select Properties. Then change the

>> Target path to the new drive folder location.

>>

>

> Not really. The shared folder is in "documents and settings". If I

> right-click the doc+set folder it gives me the info, but I cannot select a

> new path.

>

 

You can't copy the Shared Documents folder but you can copy/move the

contents of that folder.

 

You can't change the location of the Shared Documents folder as

"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents" seems to be its default

location (someone correct me if this wrong!). It seems to be tied to the

root drive.

 

So, you'll probably have to make your new drive your root drive so that a

Shared Documents folder is created within it. Then you can move the copy of

the Shared Documents folder that you made earlier.

Guest Matty

Guest Matty

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"Matty" <barenews@shaw.ca.invalid> wrote in message

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>

> "Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

> news:uJPnDA%23eIHA.4696@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> >

>>> I just verified the same within My Computer. Even when right-clicked

>>> and dragged to a drive, the only option is "Create Shortcuts Here".

>>>

>>> Are most of the Shared folders within My Documents? If so, create a

>>> folder name of your choice on the new drive, then right click on the My

>>> Documents folder on the Desktop and select Properties. Then change the

>>> Target path to the new drive folder location.

>>>

>>

>> Not really. The shared folder is in "documents and settings". If I

>> right-click the doc+set folder it gives me the info, but I cannot select

>> a new path.

>>

>

> You can't copy the Shared Documents folder but you can copy/move the

> contents of that folder.

>

> You can't change the location of the Shared Documents folder as

> "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents" seems to be its default

> location (someone correct me if this wrong!). It seems to be tied to the

> root drive.

>

> So, you'll probably have to make your new drive your root drive so that a

> Shared Documents folder is created within it. Then you can move the copy

> of the Shared Documents folder that you made earlier.

>

>

 

Take a look at this - http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-519724.php

 

Thread is talking about what you want to do - move your Shared Documents

folder to another location.

Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

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Re: New hard drive

 

>

> You can't copy the Shared Documents folder but you can copy/move the

> contents of that folder.

>

> You can't change the location of the Shared Documents folder as

> "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents" seems to be its default

> location (someone correct me if this wrong!). It seems to be tied to the

> root drive.

>

> So, you'll probably have to make your new drive your root drive so that a

> Shared Documents folder is created within it. Then you can move the copy

> of the Shared Documents folder that you made earlier.

>

 

I'm making progress. Used Tweak UI to select a new "special folder" on the

F: drive. Called it Shared Documents just like the one on C:

 

It is currently moving ~20 GB over using drag + drop in Win Exp.

 

Using Tweak UI seemed to make the difference.

Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

Posted
Posted

Re: New hard drive

 

>

> Take a look at this - http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/thread-519724.php

>

> Thread is talking about what you want to do - move your Shared Documents

> folder to another location.

 

Too scary!

 

I now have a copy of shared documents on F: If I train Kodak Easyshare,

LimeWire, WMP, and some others to use F: as the default Then I'm good.

Won't delete the original on C: until I'm sure.

 

I'll confirm this tomorrow.

Guest Colin Barnhorst

Guest Colin Barnhorst

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Re: New hard drive

 

System folders work a little differently from ordinary folders. They are

hard coded. Since some third party apps are also hard coded to direct their

output to one of the System folders, you have to change the system variables

so that output is redirected. Otherwise some programs would fail if you

just moved the folder.

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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>

> "pfermar" <pfermar@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:66966722-A245-492E-87CD-1FA1820E2B00@microsoft.com...

>> I'm agreed with you, but the point here is because Stumpy he is affraid

>> of

>> just because he is going to clone is 40GB hard drive with 160GB,

>> microsoft is

>> going to say the he had a new computer, that is no true, I clone HD all

>> the

>> time and I not even had to reactivate windows

>>

>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

>>

>>> You don't have to buy a new license unless it is a bios-locked OEM copy

>>> of

>>> Windows. You just have to reactivate.

>>>

>>>

>

> Thanks for the info. Since I just want to add a new drive for storage,

> and not replace the old one, I wasn't really planning on cloning the

> operating system. I'm amazed I'm having a problem just scooting a folder

> over to a new drive.

>

> Cloning is what I'll do if the easier stuff fails.

>

Guest Matty

Guest Matty

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Re: New hard drive

 

 

"Stumpy" <perilmung@spamnet.con> wrote in message

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> >

>> You can't copy the Shared Documents folder but you can copy/move the

>> contents of that folder.

>>

>> You can't change the location of the Shared Documents folder as

>> "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents" seems to be its default

>> location (someone correct me if this wrong!). It seems to be tied to the

>> root drive.

>>

>> So, you'll probably have to make your new drive your root drive so that a

>> Shared Documents folder is created within it. Then you can move the copy

>> of the Shared Documents folder that you made earlier.

>>

>

> I'm making progress. Used Tweak UI to select a new "special folder" on

> the F: drive. Called it Shared Documents just like the one on C:

>

> It is currently moving ~20 GB over using drag + drop in Win Exp.

>

> Using Tweak UI seemed to make the difference.

>

 

Did you learn that from the "How to Move Shell Folders (and contents)" link

that was posted in the thread I showed you before? I looked it over

afterwards and bookmarked it after reading about using TweakUI to change

shell folder locations. I don't need it now but I thought it would be very

useful.

Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

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Re: New hard drive

 

>> >

>>> You can't copy the Shared Documents folder but you can copy/move the

>>> contents of that folder.

>>>

>>> You can't change the location of the Shared Documents folder as

>>> "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents" seems to be its default

>>> location (someone correct me if this wrong!). It seems to be tied to

>>> the root drive.

>>>

>>> So, you'll probably have to make your new drive your root drive so that

>>> a Shared Documents folder is created within it. Then you can move the

>>> copy of the Shared Documents folder that you made earlier.

>>>

>>

>> I'm making progress. Used Tweak UI to select a new "special folder" on

>> the F: drive. Called it Shared Documents just like the one on C:

>>

>> It is currently moving ~20 GB over using drag + drop in Win Exp.

>>

>> Using Tweak UI seemed to make the difference.

>>

>

> Did you learn that from the "How to Move Shell Folders (and contents)"

> link that was posted in the thread I showed you before? I looked it over

> afterwards and bookmarked it after reading about using TweakUI to change

> shell folder locations. I don't need it now but I thought it would be

> very useful.

>

 

I found it independently, but you're right, that was what Kent England was

suggesting on Kelly's Korner.

 

Evidently Tweak UI edits the registry key.

Guest Stumpy

Guest Stumpy

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Re: New hard drive

 

If I had this to do over again I would have taken the advice about cloning

the whole disk over.

 

The new drive came with Acronis and a disk full of instructions, I should

have used it.

 

Now I've got >85% unused capacity on one of the drives, could have cloned

and then put the old 40Gig into an external enclosure as a portable backup.

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