Disk Recovery (RE: Computer Failure )

[Guest PCR]

Re: ?Disk Recovery (RE: Computer Failure )

 

Re: ?Disk Recovery (RE: Computer Failure )

 

BAP wrote:

| ****

| dadiOH, ?to the end connector, where the DVD is normally placed, I

| connected the Microtime’s Primary Master, with the jumper in place,

| and in any combination ....other drives in or disconnected (CD- ROM,

| or ZIP 250)..... the System, while booting, would detect it as the

| Secondary Master, but it would not be available. I also connected it

| to the other connector on the cable, normally for the CD_ROM. Same

| results. Although detected while booting, MS Explorer/My Computer,

| would not show it the list of available Drives, in spite of its

| presence in the list of Storage/Physical Devices created by the

| MSI.EXE Software.

|

| See my reply to “MEB”suggestions to disconnect the Sony’s

| Master Disk and connect the Microtime’s Master in its place.

| Surprisingly, it did work and I was able to recover the desired Data.

 

Amazing! Glad to hear it! I read that post to MEB, & it sounded like

quite an ordeal of messages at first boot. You are a brave one, BAP! I

hesitate to analyze why it worked. But, I guess its overlay wanted it to

be the drive that boots.

 

| Thanks all for your replies and

| valuable suggestions. My feeling is that I have learned a lot during

| this process.

| ***

|

|

| "dadiOH" wrote:

|

|> dadiOH wrote:

|> > BAP wrote:

|>

|> >> Any possibility that things might work out better if I were

|> >> to remove the DVD Disk Drive from the Sony and hook that Master HD

|> >> to the vacant cable connection?

|> >> Thank you!

|> >> ***

|> >

|> > I would think so, try it. But determine which drive -CD or DVD -

|> > is master and replace whichever is. If you are in doubt about

|> > which is master/slave, SIW will tell you...

|> > http://www.gtopala.com/

|> >

|> > If you don't want to add still another program (it's a good one)

|> > then assume the optical drive at the end of the ribbon cable is

|> > Master and replace it.

|>

|> BTW, you need not physically remove the optical drive(s) from the

|> computer, merely disconnect the ribbon and power cables when the

|> machine is off. By the same tolen, you do not need to physically

|> place the hard drive into a drive tray, just connect the power and

|> ribbon cables after placing the drive wherever the cables can reach.

|>

|> If you do what I suggest, I have no idea what the drive letter will

|> be in your setup so use explorer to browse your drives. If for some

|> reason it does NOT show up in explorer, power down the computer and

|> attach the drive you want to read to the other terminal on the ribbon

|> cable.

|>

| ****

|

|

|

|

|> --

|>

|> dadiOH

|> ____________________________

|>

|> dadiOH's dandies v3.06...

|> ....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from

|> LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.

|> Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico

 

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Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

[Guest BAP]

Re: ?Disk Recovery (RE: Computer Failure )

 

Re: ?Disk Recovery (RE: Computer Failure )

 

****

Rather happy about the outcome, for sure!

Thank you for the help!

Regarding the issues of the CD-ROM and DVD, there is no problem with the

CD-ROM. The DVD shows warning that I have not tried to tend to, yet, but I

fail to see where to begin. With a store bought DVD Disk, Mad About You,

inserted in the slot, the MEDIA BAR splash screen comes on with the DVD

Player display, along with a warning sayng that the video display hardware is

being used by other applications. Try again after closing the applicatios. If

none is in use, the video settings like high refresh rate may be

inappropriate. After pressing OK, the DVD Player, still showing, does not

respond when pressing the Play button.

***

 

"MEB" wrote:

> TOP POSTED: Final results: read below for outcome of Microtime OS disk

> recovery.

>

> I must say I am somewhat surprised, but I admit I did have crossed fingers,

> glad you now have both disks recovered.

>

>

> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CFF20239-7531-4D2B-B8C6-39AE98452EB2@microsoft.com...

> |

> |

> | "MEB" wrote:

> |

> | >

> | >

> | > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | > news:88CE8CC8-8EBE-4294-B7BE-6B90C62FCA38@microsoft.com...

> | > |

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" wrote:

> | > |

> | > | >

> | > | >

> | > | > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | > | > news:1A8A6A60-BABD-4A6F-BF4C-EA33D7E79643@microsoft.com...

> | > | > | The start of this new Post regarding the 'Computer Failure' Post

> was

> | > | > | suggested by "MEB", and rightly so, as the that earlier Post was

> | > creating

> | > | > | some confusion.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | As was discussed in the 'Computer Failure' Post, the Microtime

> | > Computer,

> | > | > | that I have been using for several years, has failed and I find it

> | > rather

> | > | > | difficult to get it operational, again. There is a Primary Master

> and

> | > a

> | > | > | Secondary Master HD's installed in it. There are folders in both

> that

> | > have

> | > | > | Data that I would like to recover. A more recent Computer, a Sony

> | > VAIO,

> | > | > | that I am currently using, appears to have all that I would need

> to

> | > | > connect

> | > | > | those HD's and recover the desired Data and back up the same, if

> | > desired,

> | > | > | on CD's or Iomega Zip 250 MB Disks. The only obstacle is of

> possible

> | > | > | compatibility issues.

> | >

> | > {DELETED MATERIALS CONTAIN VAIO IFORMATION-

> | > (refer to the post containing it for reference

> | >

> | > | > | Hopefully, this will mean something to you, "MEB" or anyone else

> able

> | > to

> | > | > help.

> | > | > | Thank you in advance for any reply!

> | > | >

> | > | > One issue you failed to mention, which may or will be an issue, is

> that

> | > the

> | > | > other target drive [OS disk} had to be started in the other system

> by

> | > using

> | > | > a boot disk or other work around.

> | > | ****

> | > | ?"MEB", that was not the case. Early on, there was nothing wrong with

> the

> | > | booting cycle, unless I

> | > | needed or wanted to start with a Boot Disk. If I did that and inserted

> the

> | > | Boot Disk before

> | > | starting the booting cycle, at the Dos Prompt I would find myself in

> the

> | > | Primary Slave HD. The

> | > | Master HD would not be available. This surfaced when I replaced the

> | > original

> | > | HD, 10 GB in size,

> | > | with a Maxtor with 40 GB. The MAX-BLAST software, that came with the

> | > Maxtor

> | > | HD, created

> | > | an overlay. As mentioned, in a rather old post, few years back, in

> order

> | > | to boot from a Boot

> | > | Disk properly, I had to break the progress of booting with a CTRL Key

> and

> | > | opt to boot from the

> | > | Boot Disk that had to be inserted at that time.

> | > | ***

> | >

> | > AAAAAh, thanks for clarifying, the MAXTOR drive contains a drive

> overlay -

> | > RE: that is the Microtime OS disk which you mentioned in the other

> postings,

> | > which is not recognized when placed into other computers.

> | >

> | > DRIVE OVERLAY programs use the computer's BIOS translation and access

> | > routines when the algorythms are used to create and then use the overlay

> | > with the manufacturer's tools.

> | > This can even affect whether the hidden partition for the overlay

> | > translation is addressed properly. Overlays are not Plug and Play,

> changing

> | > to meet differring BIOS needs and translations, PARTICULARLY as the

> drive

> | > adapter chip may interact with the BIOS in a different fashion, such as

> when

> | > the drive IS supported within the BIOS verses when the overlay was need

> to

> | > use the drive in an unsupportive BIOS and/or OS.

> | > REMEMBER THIS: A different BIOS on another computer, OR *change within

> the

> | > original BIOS* related to that hard drive, will likely change how that

> | > overlay addresses the drive.

> | >

> | > |

> | > | But we can work from this {BTW, good

> | > | > information to work from, thanks}. I had also created a new posting

> for

> | > your

> | > | > VAIO attempt, which outlines what had been found to that point *

> Sony

> | > | > VAIO - WinME - hard drive usage and data recovery *. But we can work

> | > from

> | > | > here with this new information, as long as everyone reviews the

> other

> | > | > postings as well so redundant suggestions aren't provided.

> | > | >

> | > |

> | > |

> | > | > I also created two new posts for your other computers:

> | > | > Risys running Win31 - 98SE disk recovery

> | > | > Microtime - Win98SE - computer diagnostics and repair

> | > | >

> | > | > There is a small program which might provide some useful

> information

> | > | > provided by MiTeC:

> | > | > http://www.mitec.cz/Downloads/msi.zip - 782K - system information -

> goto

> | > | > Storage > Physical Devices for drive identification

> | > | > http://www.mitec.cz/ - main page with tools

> | >

> | > The above provides lots of information, without the necessity of an

> | > installation of another bloated Windows program.

> | >

> | > | >

> | > | > You can likely go ahead and try to connect the DATA drive to the

> VAIO

> | > as it

> | > | > may already configured as SLAVE *IF* it was on the same cable as the

> | > | > other/OS drive in the Microtime. Some info here:

> | > | >

> | >

> http://support.gateway.com/support/manlib/cmponts/harddriv/8505896/05896.htm

> | > | >

> | > | > If the drive works, pull the data off.

> | > | >

> | > | ****

> | > | ?"MEB", I did that and it worked, although the there was some

> confusion

> | > | about the ID of the Disks shown by 'My Computer'. Normally, Disk C:

> is

> | > the

> | > | Partition 0 of the Primary Master - D: Partition 1 - E: DVD - F:

> CD_ROM -

> | > G:

> | > | Zip Drive.

> | >

> | > Did you forget that I had advised of that in the prior post/thread? Let

> me

> | > repost so its in this discussion:

> | > - - - PRIOR POST - - - -

> | > | MEB:

> | > | Here are potential issues when connecting a drive to the secondary

> | > | connector on IDE0/channel1 - IRQ 14 [use SYSTEM > Device Manager >

> Hard

> | > Disk

> | > | Controllers > Primary IDE Controller > settings and resources to

> view].:

> | > | *****

> | > | BAP

> | > | Sorry, I can't seem to find my way around to get to that pane.

> | > |

> | > | MEB - you are running ME which will have that in a different area.

> | > |

> | > | ***

> | > |

> | > | MEB:

> | > | 1. The present drive [apparently 60 gig] is partitioned with C {the

> | > primary

> | > | boot partition} as a

> | > | 15.5 gig drive, adding another drive would move the second partition

> | > | presently being seen as the

> | > | 41.6 gig drive D to drive E. The new hard drive would have to be

> | > configured

> | > | as a slave and the

> | > | first hard drive as master with their jumpers or errors and potential

> disk

> | > | corruption could occur.

> | > | There could also be a hidden partition involved for SONY specific

> recovery

> | > | or other, so it may be

> | > | larger [an 80 gig drive perhaps, though that won't presently affect

> what

> | > we

> | > | are discussing], what

> | > | is the actual model and make of that drive?

> | > | There MAY potentially be a hard drive conflict if the drives are not

> | > | compatible. What are the two drive's makes and models?

> | > |

> | > | 2. The two drives on the second channel [CD and DVD] will be moved to

> | > drive

> | > | F and G, but only IF the OS has not had its drives limited to only see

> | > | drives up to drive F: limited by either the driver settings, system

> | > | settings, or something like TweakUI which modified the registry or an

> | > | inclusion in the system.ini or config.sys [lastdrive=*]. If this is

> the

> | > | case, the lost/un-recognized drive will still cause errors even though

> it

> | > is

> | > | not listed in Windows, it is still holding memory and CMOS/BIOS

> addressing

> | > | which Windows may try to assign to other needs, or may cause

> conflicting

> | > | system device issues..

> | > |

> | > | 3. The Iomega drive adds potential issues to the mix if it has been

> set to

> | > | always use some specific drive letter or IRQ, and/or if [as sometimes

> | > | happens] it is incompatible with this older drive you are attempting

> to

> | > | access.

> | > |

> | > | 4. A drive overlay may be part of the issue, but beyond that, we may

> also

> | > be

> | > | running across a disk or disks which have had Drive Space or Double

> Space

> | > | [or another drive compressor] used.

> | > |

> | > ------ END POST FROM OTHER DISCUSSIONS ^^^

> | >

> | > | With the Microtime Primary Slave in place, C: was still Sony's HD

> Primary

> | > | Master Partition 0 - D: the Microtime's Disk - E: Partition 1 of

> Sony -

> | > G:

> | > | was showing as the ZIP disk. However, if I inserted a CD in the CD_ROM

> | > drive,

> | > | G became the CD_ROM Disk - F:, showing as removable Disk, was, in

> effect,

> | > | the ZIP Drive.

> | >

> | > This is exactly as I had advised.

> | > This also indicates that the ZIP disk has been *assigned* a drive

> letter.

> | >

> | > | No matter, 'though, as I was able to copy the contents of the

> Microtime's

> | > | Primary Slave HD.

> | >

> | > *STEP 1 - SUCCESS* accomplished: now that AUTO had been set in the

> BIOS,

> | > the Microtime DATA/storage disk has been recovered.

> | >

> | > | All my steps taken, to configure the Microtime's Primary Master and

> make

> | > it

> | > | a Slave, did not succeed. The configuration shown on the HD about the

> | > jumper

> | > | positions did not work. However, the system detected that HD as a

> Primary

> | > | Slave.

> | > | This was shown: (besides other info)

> | > | Primary Master Disk: 61492 MB UDMA 5

> | > | Orimary Slave Disk: 30750 MB UDMA 5

> | > | Secondary Master Disk: CD-ROM UDMA 2

> | > | Secondary Slave Disk: CD-ROM UDMA 2

> | >

> | > OKAY, let's not get ahead of ourselves here.

> | >

> | > The disk is a MAXTOR - WHAT {model/number}?

> | >

> | > |

> | > | Without the Microtime's HD connected, this was shown:

> | > | Primary Master Disk: 61492 MB UDMA 5

> | > | Orimary Slave Disk: None

> | > | Secondary Master Disk: CD-ROM UDMA 2

> | > | Secondary Slave Disk: CD-ROM UDMA 2

> | > |

> | > | It was bothersome to see that the size of the Microtime's HD did not

> | > appear

> | > | to have the size that I thought it should have. I will check further

> into

> | > | that.

> | >

> | > PLEASE wait until we can determine how to address the MAXTOR disk in

> this

[Guest MEB]

VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

 

 

"BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:40C3FE35-C985-4C3B-BE34-9E96CEC7E82E@microsoft.com...

| ****

| Rather happy about the outcome, for sure!

| Thank you for the help!

| Regarding the issues of the CD-ROM and DVD, there is no problem with the

| CD-ROM. The DVD shows warning that I have not tried to tend to, yet, but I

| fail to see where to begin. With a store bought DVD Disk, Mad About You,

| inserted in the slot, the MEDIA BAR splash screen comes on with the DVD

| Player display, along with a warning sayng that the video display hardware

is

| being used by other applications. Try again after closing the applicatios.

If

| none is in use, the video settings like high refresh rate may be

| inappropriate. After pressing OK, the DVD Player, still showing, does not

| respond when pressing the Play button.

| ***

 

Hmm, sounds like you have multiple programs trying to control

playing/handling of the DVD.

OR, perhaps in the leadin and copyright protection, there is an attempt to

force DRM, which may cause a conflict. Are you sure everything is setup

properly in your player(s)?

 

--

 

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

_________

[Guest BAP]

RE: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

RE: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

It does not appear that my earlier reply to this, might have failed to get

thru.

Here it is, again:

****

 

"MEB" wrote:

>

>

> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:40C3FE35-C985-4C3B-BE34-9E96CEC7E82E@microsoft.com...

> | ****

> | Rather happy about the outcome, for sure!

> | Thank you for the help!

> | Regarding the issues of the CD-ROM and DVD, there is no problem with the

> | CD-ROM. The DVD shows warning that I have not tried to tend to, yet, but I

> | fail to see where to begin. With a store bought DVD Disk, Mad About You,

> | inserted in the slot, the MEDIA BAR splash screen comes on with the DVD

> | Player display, along with a warning sayng that the video display hardware

> is

> | being used by other applications. Try again after closing the applicatios.

> If

> | none is in use, the video settings like high refresh rate may be

> | inappropriate. After pressing OK, the DVD Player, still showing, does not

> | respond when pressing the Play button.

> | ***

>

> Hmm, sounds like you have multiple programs trying to control

> playing/handling of the DVD.

> OR, perhaps in the leadin and copyright protection, there is an attempt to

> force DRM, which may cause a conflict. Are you sure everything is setup

> properly in your player(s)?

>

****

"MEB", I am some problems dealing with this. On the Control Panel, I was

hoping to get a clue about what was activated in the way of audio/video

codecs. There were several, some from copied from the 'failed machine' that I

thought, by installing the most reasonable, things would have gotten better.

I have few players active, such as WMB, Irfanview32, Real Player, BSPlayer

and DivX Player 2.1. I took a chance at uninstalling some of the Codex

appearing in the list of Add/Remove Programs. I figured that, since I had

their software, I could have re-installed them, if necessary. Needless to

say, I ran into some problems. Some players still function, as they did

earlier. Some complain that they can find the appropriate Codec, DIV4 or

DIV3. The Codex on hand are: DivXPlayer 2.1 upgrade.exe, DivXPro505Gain

Bundle, eCodec-v4.541.exe, GDivX1.9.9.6.exe, WM9Codecs.exe and

XviD-041020021. Now, I feel that if I do re-install any of them, more junk

might be added to the Registry.

Do you have any idea of what might be best to do at this point? A better

Codec, perhaps?

Thank you!

***

> --

>

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> _________

>

>

>

>

[Guest MEB]

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

 

 

"BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:6830A9EC-729A-471F-B5BE-6327717E7637@microsoft.com...

| It does not appear that my earlier reply to this, might have failed to get

| thru.

| Here it is, again:

| ****

|

| "MEB" wrote:

|

| >

| >

| > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:40C3FE35-C985-4C3B-BE34-9E96CEC7E82E@microsoft.com...

| > | ****

| > | Rather happy about the outcome, for sure!

| > | Thank you for the help!

| > | Regarding the issues of the CD-ROM and DVD, there is no problem with

the

| > | CD-ROM. The DVD shows warning that I have not tried to tend to, yet,

but I

| > | fail to see where to begin. With a store bought DVD Disk, Mad About

You,

| > | inserted in the slot, the MEDIA BAR splash screen comes on with the

DVD

| > | Player display, along with a warning sayng that the video display

hardware

| > is

| > | being used by other applications. Try again after closing the

applicatios.

| > If

| > | none is in use, the video settings like high refresh rate may be

| > | inappropriate. After pressing OK, the DVD Player, still showing, does

not

| > | respond when pressing the Play button.

| > | ***

| >

| > Hmm, sounds like you have multiple programs trying to control

| > playing/handling of the DVD.

| > OR, perhaps in the leadin and copyright protection, there is an attempt

to

| > force DRM, which may cause a conflict. Are you sure everything is setup

| > properly in your player(s)?

| >

| ****

| "MEB", ?I am some problems dealing with this. On the Control Panel, I was

| hoping to get a clue about what was activated in the way of audio/video

| codecs. There were several, some from copied from the 'failed machine'

that I

| thought, by installing the most reasonable, things would have gotten

better.

| I have few players active, such as WMB, Irfanview32, Real Player, BSPlayer

| and DivX Player 2.1. I took a chance at uninstalling some of the Codex

| appearing in the list of Add/Remove Programs. I figured that, since I had

| their software, I could have re-installed them, if necessary. Needless to

| say, I ran into some problems. Some players still function, as they did

| earlier. Some complain that they can find the appropriate Codec, DIV4 or

| DIV3. The Codex on hand are: DivXPlayer 2.1 upgrade.exe, DivXPro505Gain

| Bundle, eCodec-v4.541.exe, GDivX1.9.9.6.exe, WM9Codecs.exe and

| XviD-041020021. Now, I feel that if I do re-install any of them, more junk

| might be added to the Registry.

| Do you have any idea of what might be best to do at this point? A better

| Codec, perhaps?

| Thank you!

| ***

| > --

| >

| > MEB

 

Okay, though I put this under a new sub-heading, perhaps YOU [because

posters apparently hate to post under me, and the original discussion was

for hard drive issues] should make this an entirely NEW discussion. This

issue would likely then be responded to by others. Don't post my signature

MEB within that new discussion, and I'll let others supply their

suggestions.

 

I would, however, suggest finding perhaps just TWO players to handle the

formats/codex you actually *need* and getting rid of the rest. Having just

two would make it much easier to configure the supported file extensions and

Codex that they are supposed to handle. This would require searching the

registry for any references to the removed programs/Codex to ensure no

registry errors or mis-direction occurs.

Additionally, if the above WMB is actually WMPlayer, make sure it is NOT

the default player for media, as this seems to load the player [causing the

"application already in control/loaded] even though it can't play the file

[WMP9, in particular, is known for this issue]. And when removing Codex then

you MUST re-configure the related player to NOT attempt to play that

extension [removing its registry entry].

Real Player is another program which "takes control" if allowed to do so.

 

I can't make any recommendations for programs, as you apparently feel you

need far more formats/Codex than I have found I need.

 

--

 

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

_________

[Guest ... et al.]

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

BAP wrote:

 

[snip]

> and DivX Player 2.1. I took a chance at uninstalling some of the Codex

> appearing in the list of Add/Remove Programs. I figured that, since I had

> their software, I could have re-installed them, if necessary. Needless to

> say, I ran into some problems. Some players still function, as they did

> earlier. Some complain that they can find the appropriate Codec, DIV4 or

> DIV3. The Codex on hand are: DivXPlayer 2.1 upgrade.exe, DivXPro505Gain

> Bundle, eCodec-v4.541.exe, GDivX1.9.9.6.exe, WM9Codecs.exe and

> XviD-041020021. Now, I feel that if I do re-install any of them, more junk

> might be added to the Registry.

> Do you have any idea of what might be best to do at this point? A better

> Codec, perhaps?

> Thank you!

> ***

 

 

The 'DivXPro505Gain Bundle' is a codec bundled with spyware.

Said so when you installed it, didn't it?

 

 

Big Warning.

eCodec 4.107(2006-01-24) <- ZLOB family of Trojans

warning(-w-w-w-.-e-M-e-d-i-a-C-o-d-e-c-.-c-o-m-)warning

 

A safe info page from 'Trend Micro' - The ZLOB Show:

Trojan Poses as Fake Video Codec, Loads More Threats

<http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VNAME=The+ZLOB+Show%3A+Trojan+poses+as+fake+video+codec%2C+loads+more+threats>

 

 

Your version [eCodec-v4.541.exe] most probably contain the same

or similar.

 

 

 

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Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.

 

Please followup in the newsgroup.

E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

[Guest MEB]

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

 

 

"... et al." <look@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid> wrote in message

news:OQHiYJohIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| BAP wrote:

|

| [snip]

|

| > and DivX Player 2.1. I took a chance at uninstalling some of the Codex

| > appearing in the list of Add/Remove Programs. I figured that, since I

had

| > their software, I could have re-installed them, if necessary. Needless

to

| > say, I ran into some problems. Some players still function, as they did

| > earlier. Some complain that they can find the appropriate Codec, DIV4 or

| > DIV3. The Codex on hand are: DivXPlayer 2.1 upgrade.exe, DivXPro505Gain

| > Bundle, eCodec-v4.541.exe, GDivX1.9.9.6.exe, WM9Codecs.exe and

| > XviD-041020021. Now, I feel that if I do re-install any of them, more

junk

| > might be added to the Registry.

| > Do you have any idea of what might be best to do at this point? A

better

| > Codec, perhaps?

| > Thank you!

| > ***

|

|

| The 'DivXPro505Gain Bundle' is a codec bundled with spyware.

| Said so when you installed it, didn't it?

|

|

| Big Warning.

| eCodec 4.107(2006-01-24) <- ZLOB family of Trojans

| warning(-w-w-w-.-e-M-e-d-i-a-C-o-d-e-c-.-c-o-m-)warning

|

| A safe info page from 'Trend Micro' - The ZLOB Show:

| Trojan Poses as Fake Video Codec, Loads More Threats

|

<http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VNAME=The+ZLOB+S

how%3A+Trojan+poses+as+fake+video+codec%2C+loads+more+threats>

|

|

| Your version [eCodec-v4.541.exe] most probably contain the same

| or similar.

|

|

|

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|

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Wow, I never bothered to check for the Codex/bundles... sounds NASTY...

 

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Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

****

Is there bundle or any Codec that would be safe to download and install to

resolve the missing DIV3 or DIV4?

Thank you, for your warning!

***

 

"... et al." wrote:

> BAP wrote:

>

> [snip]

>

> > and DivX Player 2.1. I took a chance at uninstalling some of the Codex

> > appearing in the list of Add/Remove Programs. I figured that, since I had

> > their software, I could have re-installed them, if necessary. Needless to

> > say, I ran into some problems. Some players still function, as they did

> > earlier. Some complain that they can find the appropriate Codec, DIV4 or

> > DIV3. The Codex on hand are: DivXPlayer 2.1 upgrade.exe, DivXPro505Gain

> > Bundle, eCodec-v4.541.exe, GDivX1.9.9.6.exe, WM9Codecs.exe and

> > XviD-041020021. Now, I feel that if I do re-install any of them, more junk

> > might be added to the Registry.

> > Do you have any idea of what might be best to do at this point? A better

> > Codec, perhaps?

> > Thank you!

> > ***

>

>

> The 'DivXPro505Gain Bundle' is a codec bundled with spyware.

> Said so when you installed it, didn't it?

>

>

> Big Warning.

> eCodec 4.107(2006-01-24) <- ZLOB family of Trojans

> warning(-w-w-w-.-e-M-e-d-i-a-C-o-d-e-c-.-c-o-m-)warning

>

> A safe info page from 'Trend Micro' - The ZLOB Show:

> Trojan Poses as Fake Video Codec, Loads More Threats

> <http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VNAME=The+ZLOB+Show%3A+Trojan+poses+as+fake+video+codec%2C+loads+more+threats>

>

>

> Your version [eCodec-v4.541.exe] most probably contain the same

> or similar.

>

>

>

> --

> Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.

>

> Please followup in the newsgroup.

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>

[Guest ... et al.]

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

BAP wrote:

> ****

> Is there bundle or any Codec that would be safe to download and install to

> resolve the missing DIV3 or DIV4?

 

I've downloaded and installed various DivX/XviD Codecs in the

past. For the last couple of years mostly i only update WMP to

get the Codecs included with that, like running the

[WM9Codecs.exe] you mention. Beyond that, for DivX(3,4,5)/XviD

and MPEG4, i also install a codec-package called 'ffdshow'.

 

<http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/>

 

"ffdshow is DirectShow and VFW codec for decoding/encoding many

video and audio formats, including DivX and XviD movies using

libavcodec, xvid and other opensourced libraries with a rich set

of postprocessing filters."

 

I see it hasn't been updated from the [ffdshow-20041012.exe] file

i downloaded a couple of years ago. Anyhow, with this installed

my computer plays most AVI-format movies i've tried to run using

mostly the last freeware version 'BSplayer' and 'Media Player

Classic' as players.

 

> Thank you, for your warning!

 

A filename is just a filename, and can be anything (using the

rules for a filename). It doesn't necessarily say anything about

what's inside. Once upon a time i downloaded a file named

[eCodec-v4.107.exe] and my anti-virus software detects it and a

few other differently named fake /codecs/ i've downloaded as

being various 'ZLOB family' Trojans.

Based solely on the similarity in the filename i accused "Your

version [eCodec-v4.541.exe] most probably contain the same or

similar.", but i find it a little strange if your Anti-virus

software with updated virus-definitions doesn't object to it if

you scan it (or when you've tried to run it in the past). Your

file might be something totally different and legit compared to

the similarly named file i downloaded to my menagerie of uglies.

I do however suggest that you upload a copy of that file of yours

to one of the online anti-virus scanners.

 

<http://www.virustotal.com/> and_or <http://virusscan.jotti.org/>

 

If it is found to be a trojan and you have had it /installed/

earlier and your current anti-virus program never complained

about anything, i'd consider downloading a different anti-virus

software and at least temporarily uninstalling the current one

and installing the other new one instead.

Or, perhaps first, scanning your whole HardDiskDrive with one of

them online Anti-Virus scanners (ActiveX controls?). I've never

done the last myself, so don't know where and how.

 

 

> ***

>

> "... et al." wrote:

>

>> BAP wrote:

>>

>> [snip]

>>

>>> and DivX Player 2.1. I took a chance at uninstalling some of the Codex

>>> appearing in the list of Add/Remove Programs. I figured that, since I had

>>> their software, I could have re-installed them, if necessary. Needless to

>>> say, I ran into some problems. Some players still function, as they did

>>> earlier. Some complain that they can find the appropriate Codec, DIV4 or

>>> DIV3. The Codex on hand are: DivXPlayer 2.1 upgrade.exe, DivXPro505Gain

>>> Bundle, eCodec-v4.541.exe, GDivX1.9.9.6.exe, WM9Codecs.exe and

>>> XviD-041020021. Now, I feel that if I do re-install any of them, more junk

>>> might be added to the Registry.

>>> Do you have any idea of what might be best to do at this point? A better

>>> Codec, perhaps?

>>> Thank you!

>>> ***

>>

>> The 'DivXPro505Gain Bundle' is a codec bundled with spyware.

>> Said so when you installed it, didn't it?

>>

>>

>> Big Warning.

>> eCodec 4.107(2006-01-24) <- ZLOB family of Trojans

>> warning(-w-w-w-.-e-M-e-d-i-a-C-o-d-e-c-.-c-o-m-)warning

>>

>> A safe info page from 'Trend Micro' - The ZLOB Show:

>> Trojan Poses as Fake Video Codec, Loads More Threats

>> <http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VNAME=The+ZLOB+Show%3A+Trojan+poses+as+fake+video+codec%2C+loads+more+threats>

>>

>>

>> Your version [eCodec-v4.541.exe] most probably contain the same

>> or similar.

>>

 

 

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Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

On Mar 17, 2:18 am, "... et al." <l...@sig.bcause.this.is.invalid>

wrote:

> BAP wrote:

> > ****

> > Is there bundle or any Codec that would be safe to download and install to

> > resolve the missing DIV3 or DIV4?

>

> I've downloaded and installed various DivX/XviD Codecs in the

> past. For the last couple of years mostly i only update WMP to

> get the Codecs included with that, like running the

> [WM9Codecs.exe] you mention. Beyond that, for DivX(3,4,5)/XviD

> and MPEG4, i also install a codec-package called 'ffdshow'.

>

> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/>

>

> "ffdshow is DirectShow and VFW codec for decoding/encoding many

> video and audio formats, including DivX and XviD movies using

> libavcodec, xvid and other opensourced libraries with a rich set

> of postprocessing filters."

>

> I see it hasn't been updated from the [ffdshow-20041012.exe]file

> i downloaded a couple of years ago. Anyhow, with this installed

> my computer plays most AVI-format movies i've tried to run using

> mostly the last freeware version 'BSplayer' and 'Media Player

> Classic' as players.

>

> > Thank you, for your warning!

>

> A filename is just a filename, and can be anything (using the

> rules for a filename). It doesn't necessarily say anything about

> what's inside. Once upon a time i downloaded afilenamed

> [eCodec-v4.107.exe] and my anti-virus software detects it and a

> few other differently named fake /codecs/ i've downloaded as

> being various 'ZLOB family' Trojans.

> Based solely on the similarity in the filename i accused "Your

> version [eCodec-v4.541.exe] most probably contain the same or

> similar.", but i find it a little strange if your Anti-virus

> software with updated virus-definitions doesn't object to it if

> you scan it (or when you've tried to run it in the past). Yourfilemight be something totally different and legit compared to

> the similarly namedfilei downloaded to my menagerie of uglies.

> I do however suggest that youuploada copy of thatfileof yours

> to one of the online anti-virus scanners.

>

> <http://www.virustotal.com/> and_or <http://virusscan.jotti.org/>

>

> If it is found to be a trojan and you have had it /installed/

> earlier and your current anti-virus program never complained

> about anything, i'd consider downloading a different anti-virus

> software and at least temporarily uninstalling the current one

> and installing the other new one instead.

> Or, perhaps first, scanning your whole HardDiskDrive with one of

> them online Anti-Virus scanners (ActiveX controls?). I've never

> done the last myself, so don't know where and how.

>

>

>

> > ***

>

> > "... et al." wrote:

>

> >> BAP wrote:

>

> >>       [snip]

>

> >>> and DivX Player 2.1. I took a chance at uninstalling some of the Codex

> >>> appearing in the list of Add/Remove Programs. I figured that, since I had

> >>> their software,  I could have re-installed them, if necessary. Needless to

> >>> say, I ran into some problems. Some players still function, as they did

> >>> earlier. Some complain that they can find the appropriate Codec, DIV4 or

> >>> DIV3. The Codex on hand are: DivXPlayer 2.1 upgrade.exe, DivXPro505Gain

> >>> Bundle, eCodec-v4.541.exe, GDivX1.9.9.6.exe, WM9Codecs.exe and

> >>> XviD-041020021. Now, I feel that if I do re-install any of them, more junk

> >>> might be added to the Registry.

> >>> Do you have any idea of what might be best  to do at this point? A better

> >>> Codec, perhaps?

> >>> Thank you!

> >>> ***

>

> >> The 'DivXPro505Gain  Bundle' is a codec bundled with spyware.

> >> Said so when you installed it, didn't it?

>

> >>     Big Warning.

> >> eCodec 4.107(2006-01-24) <- ZLOB family of Trojans

> >>     warning(-w-w-w-.-e-M-e-d-i-a-C-o-d-e-c-.-c-o-m-)warning

>

> >> A safe info page from 'Trend Micro' - The ZLOB Show:

> >>   Trojan Poses as Fake Video Codec, Loads More Threats

> >> <http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/secadvisories/default6.asp?VNAME=The+...>

>

> >> Your version [eCodec-v4.541.exe] most probably contain the same

> >> or similar.

>

> --

> Nah-ah. I'm staying out of this. ... Now, here's my opinion.

>

>         Please followup in the newsgroup.

>         E-mail address is invalid due to spam-control.

 

If you plan on integrating with an antivirus to perform virus scanning

and content checking may be you should check out Metascan -

http://www.opswat.com/metascan.shtml

Live demo is avaliable at http://www.filterbit.com

I think that it could help you out with queue management, scanning ,

content checking , archive support

[Guest ... et al.]

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Benny@opswat.com wrote:

> "... et al." wrote:

>> I do however suggest that you upload a copy of that file of yours

>> to one of the online anti-virus scanners.

>>

>> <http://www.virustotal.com/> and_or <http://virusscan.jotti.org/>

>>

 

>

> If you plan on integrating with an antivirus to perform virus scanning

> and content checking may be you should check out Metascan -

> http://www.opswat.com/metascan.shtml

 

Wrong group to peddle your wares. Especially since its "Supported

Operating Systems" is only WinNT (various versions), not Windows.

And why run my own when if don't trust the result of the single

AV-engine (with its defs) that i have installed, i can upload

suspect files to meta-scanners at the links i gave above.

Services that are hopefully run and kept up to date by people

much more knowledgeable about this then me.

 

> Live demo is avaliable at http://www.filterbit.com

 

Seems to be a third alternative to Hispasec's VirusTotal and

Jotti's 'malware scan' above. Fine, so i upload a the sample to

try it out. Uploaded Zip-archived, 4 of the 6 scan-engines

detected the ZLOB trojan:

 

<results.cgi>

ClamAV

-

 

Eset scanning engine

a variant of Win32/TrojanDownloader.Zlob trojan,

Win32/TrojanDownloader.Zlob.OU trojan

 

eTrust Engine

-

 

MicroWorld scanning engine

Trojan-Downloader.Win32.Zlob.fn,

Trojan.Win32.Zapchast.a

 

Norman Scan Engine

W32/Suspicious_U.gen

 

VirusBuster EDK

Packed/Upack, Trojan.Zlob.CTG

 

Final Result INFECTED (66% detection rate)

</results.cgi>

 

Seems it needs some finetuning as it returned a "Software error:

...."-page the first time i uploaded the file ( then not archived

but with a '.malware'-extension ). ( Hopefully just a temporary

glitch. )

 

> I think that it could help you out with queue management, scanning ,

> content checking , archive support

>

 

I'm fine thanks. Now, there's the door.

 

 

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Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

.... et al. wrote:

> BAP wrote:

>

>> ****

>> Is there bundle or any Codec that would be safe to download and

>> install to resolve the missing DIV3 or DIV4?

>

> I've downloaded and installed various DivX/XviD Codecs in the past. For

> the last couple of years mostly i only update WMP to get the Codecs

> included with that, like running the [WM9Codecs.exe] you mention. Beyond

> that, for DivX(3,4,5)/XviD and MPEG4, i also install a codec-package

> called 'ffdshow'.

>

> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow/>

>

> "ffdshow is DirectShow and VFW codec for decoding/encoding many video

> and audio formats, including DivX and XviD movies using libavcodec, xvid

> and other opensourced libraries with a rich set of postprocessing filters."

>

> I see it hasn't been updated from the [ffdshow-20041012.exe] file i

> downloaded a couple of years ago. Anyhow, with this installed my

> computer plays most AVI-format movies i've tried to run using mostly the

> last freeware version 'BSplayer' and 'Media Player Classic' as players.

>

 

Oy, am i playin' on the trailing edge as usual. As i wrote, that

old codec-package i once downloaded has worked and continues to

work for me. But it is still actively developed, and a better

site to point to is:

 

<http://ffdshow-tryout.sourceforge.net/>

Info: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFDShow>

 

-----

 

The same thing goes for my old bookmark to 'Media Player

Classic', ( guliverkli ).

Development there has dried up and there are now two new branches

of development ( *Both these are for WinNT versions only* ):

 

'Media Player Classic (patched)':

<http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli2/>

( We have also fixed all known security vulnerabilities. )

and 'Media Player Classic Home Cinema':

<http://tibrium.neuf.fr/index.html>

Info: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_player_classic>

 

So using the old version of 'Media Player Classic' under Win98xE

to access online media directly might be a security-risk.

 

 

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Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

Re: VAIO-Millennium - DVD playing - apparent conflict

 

.... et al. wrote:

> ... et al. wrote:

>

 

hi, it's me again.

> The same thing goes for my old bookmark to 'Media Player Classic', (

> guliverkli ).

> Development there has dried up and there are now two new branches of

> development ( *Both these are for WinNT versions only* ):

>

> 'Media Player Classic (patched)':

> <http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli2/>

> ( We have also fixed all known security vulnerabilities. )

 

Hmm.. just went to download this and there are two different

builds one named [mplayerc_20080308_win9x.zip] strongly

suggesting that a new security patched version exists also for

Win98. :-)

 

>

> So using the old version of 'Media Player Classic' under Win98xE to

> access online media directly might be a security-risk.

>

 

So download the new version that *do* exist. :-)

 

 

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