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Guest Chris White
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Hi all,

 

Our data is very precious as i'm sure most companies data is, however I am

struggling to get my head round the proper way I should be using NTBackup to

make the most of the backups.

 

In terms of space and room to move with backups, i'm spoilt for choice with

loads of storage space available (3 x RAID1 Mirror Set of 1TB Hard Disks).

 

I want to make the most of the NTbackup features.

 

Would it be acceptable to do an Incremental on Sundays and Wednesdays, and

Daily Backups between those incrementals.

 

At the moment I'm only doing Incremental so the previous days backup is

overwritten with new changes. We have disks offsite for backup from a while

ago but I want to move away from overwriting the backup so often with

Incrementals (every night).

 

Any suggestions would be fantastic.

 

Thanks.

 

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Chris White

United Kingdom

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Guest Brian Cryer
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Re: Backups - Need Help / Solution.

 

"Chris White" <ChrisWhite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A9932333-8AF0-4C90-8FEA-2F4B38C87F29@microsoft.com...

> Hi all,

>

> Our data is very precious as i'm sure most companies data is, however I am

> struggling to get my head round the proper way I should be using NTBackup

> to

> make the most of the backups.

>

> In terms of space and room to move with backups, i'm spoilt for choice

> with

> loads of storage space available (3 x RAID1 Mirror Set of 1TB Hard Disks).

 

To be effective your backups should be to some form of removable media.

Think big disaster such as a fire which destroys your RAID. I would suggest

removable USB disks. Once you have your backup set-up and working then cycle

your disks offsite at least once a week.

> I want to make the most of the NTbackup features.

>

> Would it be acceptable to do an Incremental on Sundays and Wednesdays, and

> Daily Backups between those incrementals.

 

Depends on how much data you are backing up and to what. I do a full backup

each week-night. The only reason for doing an incremental backup is if the

full backup takes too long (or I suppose if you don't have space on your

backup device.) Know what you are backing up to before you worry about

whether you need any incremental backups. I would have thought that if you

needed to resort to incremental backups then a full backup on a Saturday or

Friday evening (assuming no-one is using the server over the weekend) and

incrementals Monday to Thursday.

> At the moment I'm only doing Incremental so the previous days backup is

> overwritten with new changes. We have disks offsite for backup from a

> while

> ago but I want to move away from overwriting the backup so often with

> Incrementals (every night).

 

So what are you backing up to and how frequently do you take these off-site?

(or aren't you currently?)

 

The only other significant thing to say about backups, is don't be tempted

to exclude anything from the backup. Another worst case scenario is that you

need something from the backup but oops it wasn't included in the backup.

--

Brian Cryer

http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

Guest Chris White
Posted

Re: Backups - Need Help / Solution.

 

Hey Bob,

 

Thanks for the info so far.

 

We currently have copies offsite of all data up until a week ago.

 

The plan was to rotate the disks each week. So we only lose a week at worst

case.

 

We backup everything at the moment. Nothing is excluded for the reasons you

point out.

 

One thing we have loads of is space on the storage server. I have also

created a Virtual server (using MS VSR2SP1) on the storage server, to manage

8 of the 16 bays. This also allows me to use the other Ethernet port on the

motherboard effectively and utilise the Servers hardware during the day.

 

I was amazed how easy it was to setup the Virtual Server and now I can

manage my Storage Server to how i'd like.

 

People use this sytem a lot, 7 days a week various people are on remote

access, even till late sometimes which makes it very tricky for me. But this

is a business that just made a move up from the typical Small Business

bracket. Its usually only 1 or 2 users checking mail or something but it does

mean I have to let my backups run later than i would like due to people still

working.

 

We are also getting a nice Cisco Catalyst 3560 switch soon to replace the

Netgear FSM Layer3 one and increase the performance of the network and enable

Port Channeling. This is something we do need ASAP and will be sure to boost

performance on backup operations.

 

Thanks Bob!

 

Regards,

--

Chris White

United Kingdom

 

 

"Brian Cryer" wrote:

> "Chris White" <ChrisWhite@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A9932333-8AF0-4C90-8FEA-2F4B38C87F29@microsoft.com...

> > Hi all,

> >

> > Our data is very precious as i'm sure most companies data is, however I am

> > struggling to get my head round the proper way I should be using NTBackup

> > to

> > make the most of the backups.

> >

> > In terms of space and room to move with backups, i'm spoilt for choice

> > with

> > loads of storage space available (3 x RAID1 Mirror Set of 1TB Hard Disks).

>

> To be effective your backups should be to some form of removable media.

> Think big disaster such as a fire which destroys your RAID. I would suggest

> removable USB disks. Once you have your backup set-up and working then cycle

> your disks offsite at least once a week.

>

> > I want to make the most of the NTbackup features.

> >

> > Would it be acceptable to do an Incremental on Sundays and Wednesdays, and

> > Daily Backups between those incrementals.

>

> Depends on how much data you are backing up and to what. I do a full backup

> each week-night. The only reason for doing an incremental backup is if the

> full backup takes too long (or I suppose if you don't have space on your

> backup device.) Know what you are backing up to before you worry about

> whether you need any incremental backups. I would have thought that if you

> needed to resort to incremental backups then a full backup on a Saturday or

> Friday evening (assuming no-one is using the server over the weekend) and

> incrementals Monday to Thursday.

>

> > At the moment I'm only doing Incremental so the previous days backup is

> > overwritten with new changes. We have disks offsite for backup from a

> > while

> > ago but I want to move away from overwriting the backup so often with

> > Incrementals (every night).

>

> So what are you backing up to and how frequently do you take these off-site?

> (or aren't you currently?)

>

> The only other significant thing to say about backups, is don't be tempted

> to exclude anything from the backup. Another worst case scenario is that you

> need something from the backup but oops it wasn't included in the backup.

> --

> Brian Cryer

> http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian

>

>

>


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