Error Message

[Guest smg]

Operating System: Windows 98 se

RAM: 768

Application: Quattro (for DOS)

 

When trying to load the Quattro (for DOS) spreadsheet, I get the

following error message "Out of Memory". The program loads but with loss of

data.

 

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smg

[Guest Don Phillipson]

Re: Error Message

 

"smg" <ssagge@aol.com.(private)> wrote in message

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> Operating System: Windows 98 se

> RAM: 768

> Application: Quattro (for DOS)

>

> When trying to load the Quattro (for DOS) spreadsheet, I get the

> following error message "Out of Memory". The program loads but with loss

of

> data.

 

Windows manages memory (not the individual application)

but DOS software like this Quattro was obviously programmed

on the assumption that DOS managed memory (up to a

maximum of less than one Mb.) -- thus loses data if it

loads at all.

1. You may get different behavior if you load DOS Quattro

directly from Windows or from a CLI prompt inside a DOS box.

2. Either way, your Quattro / Properties can be configured

with the memory management instructions a DOS PC

provides in AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Your

software manual ought to say what Quattro required.

 

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Don Phillipson

Carlsbad Springs

(Ottawa, Canada)

[Guest MEB]

Re: Error Message

 

 

 

"smg" <ssagge@aol.com.(private)> wrote in message

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| Operating System: Windows 98 se

| RAM: 768

| Application: Quattro (for DOS)

|

| When trying to load the Quattro (for DOS) spreadsheet, I get the

| following error message "Out of Memory". The program loads but with loss

of

| data.

|

| --

| smg

 

What version?

 

Check the memory settings and the other settings you have assigned by

right-clicking on the link or batch, choose Properties.

 

That program REQUIRES a certain amount of base memory [640k area] to run

and, IIRC, expanded memory [emm386.exe /AUTO or /ON{default - no switch}] be

loaded and available. *NOTE: a normal/base installation of Win98SE will not

have a config.sys file with entries. These will be added by other

applications which might need them, or manually, or have come from prior

entries when the OS was installed.*

 

To achieve this, the config.sys will need:

 

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\himem.sys

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\emm386.exe {switch or none}

DOS=HIGH,UMB

SHELL=C:\WINDOWS\command.com /E:512 /P

DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\ifshlp.sys

 

You can also set files, buffers, blocks, and other in the config.sys by

adding them AFTER the above lines.

EXAMPLES:

REM - IF faster DOS disk access is needed - cache

REM - IF used you must load smartdrv.exe in autoexec to enable the cache

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\smartdrv.exe /DOUBLE_BUFFER

 

REM - for drives larger than 120meg

BUFFERS=50

 

REM - for applications which need more available space to run

FILES=25

STACKS=18,128

 

Adjust the above to other values if necessary to increase base memory

[lower numbers free base memory] or program needs.

 

I found that using actual DOS worked better for that program rather than

within Windows. If necessary in DOS, load one of the long file name support

programs using LH in your autoexec.bat or DEVICEHIGH in your config.sys IF

they support or need it [some do it automatically]..

Use LH and DEVICEHIGH to load the program into upper memory blocks rather

than using base memory {if possible}, however, himem.sys and emm386.exe MUST

be loaded first..

Additionally, IF smartdrive was included in the config.sys then use

C:\WINDOWS\smartdrv.exe /X - in autoexec.bat so write behind is disabled,

you don't want to loose data that hasn't been written to disk yet when you

shutdown.

..

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MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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[Guest smg]

Re: Error Message

 

Hi Don

Your first paragraph is clear.

How do I find the "CLI prompt inside a DOS box"

Also how do I access config.sys and autoexec.bat and and what changes

would

I have to make?

Thanks for you quick response

Shelly

smg

 

 

"Don Phillipson" wrote:

> "smg" <ssagge@aol.com.(private)> wrote in message

> news:FD5CC653-2120-48A4-B633-0D81DC838CA6@microsoft.com...

>

> > Operating System: Windows 98 se

> > RAM: 768

> > Application: Quattro (for DOS)

> >

> > When trying to load the Quattro (for DOS) spreadsheet, I get the

> > following error message "Out of Memory". The program loads but with loss

> of

> > data.

>

> Windows manages memory (not the individual application)

> but DOS software like this Quattro was obviously programmed

> on the assumption that DOS managed memory (up to a

> maximum of less than one Mb.) -- thus loses data if it

> loads at all.

> 1. You may get different behavior if you load DOS Quattro

> directly from Windows or from a CLI prompt inside a DOS box.

> 2. Either way, your Quattro / Properties can be configured

> with the memory management instructions a DOS PC

> provides in AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. Your

> software manual ought to say what Quattro required.

>

> --

> Don Phillipson

> Carlsbad Springs

> (Ottawa, Canada)

>

>

>

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Error Message

 

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:56:01 -0800, smg <ssagge@aol.com.(private)> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>Operating System: Windows 98 se

> RAM: 768

>Application: Quattro (for DOS)

>

> When trying to load the Quattro (for DOS) spreadsheet, I get the

>following error message "Out of Memory". The program loads but with loss of

>data.

 

Could this be your problem?

 

"Out of Memory" Error Messages with Large Amounts of RAM Installed

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/253912

 

Otherwise type "mem" at a DOS prompt in a Windows DOS box to see how

much EMS memory you have.

 

- Franc Zabkar

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