TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

[Guest Puff]

I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder

settings.

So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was

NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.

The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the

correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered it as

Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.

After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.

Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there any way

to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their

program?

Thanks!

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

TweakUI was not written by MS, it's not part of Windows, and MS doesn't

support it:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

Puff wrote:

> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder

> settings.

> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was

> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.

> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the

> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered it

> as

> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.

> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.

> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there any

> way to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in

> their

> program?

> Thanks!

[Guest HEMI-Powered]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

PA Bear [MS MVP] added these comments in the current discussion

du jour ...

> TweakUI was not written by MS, it's not part of Windows, and

> MS doesn't support it:

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowert

> oys.mspx

 

I thought that the original PowerToys were written after-hours and

unofficially by MS programmers and released via MS's web site as a

courtesy to customers. I understand that MS has never supported

them but they're still distributed via MS's web site. What has

always puzzled me is why MS never incorporated the many nifty toys

into base Windows. It isn't that these things are necessarily

dangerous, they are, in my view, worthwhile additions to the O/S

and should be supported.

 

--

HP, aka Jerry

 

"Surely you jest - and don't call me Shirley!" - from the movie

"Airplane!"

[Guest Ramesh, MS-MVP]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/91cd4b0df80d5c69

 

--

Regards,

 

Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]

Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com

Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog

 

 

"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...

I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder

settings.

So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was

NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.

The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the

correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered it as

Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.

After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.

Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there any way

to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their

program?

Thanks!

[Guest VanguardLH]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message

news:ewRGHGyfIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> TweakUI was not written by MS, it's not part of Windows, and MS

> doesn't support it:

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

 

 

Not entirely correct. TweakUI (and other powertoys) are written by

Microsoft programmers. Microsoft wrote them, Microsoft makes them

available, but Microsoft does not SUPPORT them. At many companies,

their employees write up utilities that are handy for their own use.

Often they might roll these up into a package that they make available

to their customers. I've often seen such packages show up for UNIX

(IBM AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, etc.). They are written by the company but

they are provided as-is.

 

If you use a hex editor on TweakUI.exe, you will see that Microsoft is

identified as the company, owner, and even has their Verisign cert

recorded.

[Guest Puff]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

 

Hi all!

I love how the buck gets passed "If it looks like a duck, waddles like a

duck and quacks like a duck, Microsoft says it's a chicken and we didn't do

it!" (LOL)

OH WELL :(

 

Ramesh,

Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for.

Kelly's site is awesome!

 

 

---

"Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:

> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/91cd4b0df80d5c69

>

> --

> Regards,

>

> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]

> Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com

> Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog

>

>

> "Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...

> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder

> settings.

> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It was

> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.

> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the

> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered it as

> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.

> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.

> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there any way

> to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their

> program?

> Thanks!

>

[Guest -Phil Clemence]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

 

"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7767F562-631D-4780-B4F4-D14FE7BA4D85@microsoft.com...

>

> Hi all!

> I love how the buck gets passed "If it looks like a duck, waddles like a

> duck and quacks like a duck, Microsoft says it's a chicken and we didn't

> do

> it!" (LOL)

> OH WELL :(

>

> Ramesh,

> Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for.

> Kelly's site is awesome!

>

 

Your post seemsto be about if anyone else noticed the error and if there

was any way to notify developers.

Maybe they would find it interesting or funny too! If they wanted they

could avoid the error in the next release (if any), too.

The replies you got ... well it's great that they know Microsoft does not

support TweakUI, and i see how this has relevence in whether notifying

anyone would do more than be an interesting bit of trivia... but it seems

they are replying in defense of Microsoft.

That's not really it...i think they just like to be the first to show that

they know something, but they did not notice (or bother to look for

themselves out of interest) the error...

anyway, MY question is...

Where is the entry to check? I can search but i try to manage my time :D

> ---

> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:

>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/91cd4b0df80d5c69

>>

>> --

>> Regards,

>>

>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]

>> Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com

>> Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog

>>

>>

>> "Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...

>> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder

>> settings.

>> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It

>> was

>> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.

>> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the

>> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered

>> it as

>> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.

>> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.

>> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there

>> any way

>> to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their

>> program?

>> Thanks!

>>

[Guest Puff]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

To Phil Clemence:

It gets frustrating when you email Microsoft, they tell you to submit to the

support page, then not

being able to use it as your "2" FREE supports were used up right after XP

home came out.

Then coming here, or others groups and being told that Microsoft doesn't own

or support a product that they have their name associated with "Microsoft

PowerToys for Windows XP", and having the

disclaimer on their site:

"Note: We take great care to ensure that PowerToys work as they should, but

they are not part of Windows and are not supported by Microsoft. For this

reason, Microsoft Technical Support is unable to answer questions about

PowerToys."

Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this instance,

but it seems in

ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass the

buck" more

and more each day.

I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can not

add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person like

myself can email them directly, telling them

that I noticed their oops. That seems so much less frustrating and a heck of

a lot more logical!

Don't you think?

--

"-Phil Clemence" wrote:

>

> Your post seems to be about if anyone else noticed the error and if there

was any way to notify developers.

Maybe they would find it interesting or funny too! If they wanted they

could avoid the error in the next release (if any), too.

The replies you got ... well it's great that they know Microsoft does not

support TweakUI, and i see how this has relevence in whether notifying

anyone would do more than be an interesting bit of trivia... but it seems

they are replying in defense of Microsoft.

That's not really it...i think they just like to be the first to show that

they know something, but they did not notice (or bother to look for

themselves out of interest) the error...

anyway, MY question is...

Where is the entry to check? I can search but i try to manage my time :D

> ---

[Guest KG]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:02:58 -0400, "-Phil Clemence" <me@loose_ends.com> wrote:

>

>> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:

>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/91cd4b0df80d5c69

>>>

>>> --

>>> Regards,

>>>

>>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]

>>> Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com

>>> Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog

>>>

>>>

>>> "Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...

>>> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the folder

>>> settings.

>>> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It

>>> was

>>> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.

>>> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where the

>>> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it entered

>>> it as

>>> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.

>>> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their settings.

>>> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there

>>> any way

>>> to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in their

>>> program?

>>> Thanks!

 

 

Ok I did a ergedit on BagMRU Size and found two uses in two different locarions. Each use had it

both ways, "BagMRU Size" and "Bag MRU Size" with different D words for each.

*****************

Thank You kGbAT@msbx.net

 

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[Guest Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:4CD8FA0E-3DE8-4547-8AC7-82849B6B4795@microsoft.com...

> To Phil Clemence:

> It gets frustrating when you email Microsoft, they tell you to submit to

> the

> support page, then not

> being able to use it as your "2" FREE supports were used up right after XP

> home came out.

> Then coming here, or others groups and being told that Microsoft doesn't

> own

> or support a product that they have their name associated with "Microsoft

> PowerToys for Windows XP", and having the

> disclaimer on their site:

> "Note: We take great care to ensure that PowerToys work as they should,

> but

> they are not part of Windows and are not supported by Microsoft. For this

> reason, Microsoft Technical Support is unable to answer questions about

> PowerToys."

> Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this

> instance,

> but it seems in

> ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass

> the

> buck" more

> and more each day.

> I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can

> not

> add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person

> like

> myself can email them directly, telling them

> that I noticed their oops. That seems so much less frustrating and a heck

> of

> a lot more logical!

> Don't you think?

 

 

You may think that seems less frustrating and more logical, but that doesn't

change the fact that no one supports Power Toys.

 

--

Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM

http://www.fjsmjs.com

Do not reply with email

[Guest -Phil Clemence]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

 

"Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:4CD8FA0E-3DE8-4547-8AC7-82849B6B4795@microsoft.com...

> To Phil Clemence:

> It gets frustrating when you email Microsoft, they tell you to submit to

> the

> support page, then not

> being able to use it as your "2" FREE supports were used up right after

> XP

> home came out.

> Then coming here, or others groups and being told that Microsoft doesn't

> own

> or support a product that they have their name associated with

> "Microsoft

> PowerToys for Windows XP", and having the

> disclaimer on their site:

> "Note: We take great care to ensure that PowerToys work as they should,

> but

> they are not part of Windows and are not supported by Microsoft. For

> this

> reason, Microsoft Technical Support is unable to answer questions about

> PowerToys."

> Someone HAS TO take responsibility for something! Not only in this

> instance,

> but it seems in

> ALL instances of our lives now a days. We seem to be living by the "pass

> the

> buck" more

> and more each day.

> I don't understand why, if Microsoft does not support this, why they can

> not

> add to that disclaimer who does support their Power Tools! THEN a person

> like

> myself can email them directly, telling them

> that I noticed their oops. That seems so much less frustrating and a

> heck of

> a lot more logical!

> Don't you think?

> --

 

oh.. well it is a shame that no one really DOES support it.

But it was free, after all.

As the people here say, we can't expect those indiviuals to support it..

and Microsoft ? They probably donated some time to it while those guys

were fooling around :)

Now, if you want to argue that the capability of a UI for tweaking should

have been a part of Windows... well YEAH !! LOL!

 

> "-Phil Clemence" wrote:

>>

>> Your post seems to be about if anyone else noticed the error and if

>> there

> was any way to notify developers.

> Maybe they would find it interesting or funny too! If they wanted they

> could avoid the error in the next release (if any), too.

> The replies you got ... well it's great that they know Microsoft does

> not

> support TweakUI, and i see how this has relevence in whether notifying

> anyone would do more than be an interesting bit of trivia... but it

> seems

> they are replying in defense of Microsoft.

> That's not really it...i think they just like to be the first to show

> that

> they know something, but they did not notice (or bother to look for

> themselves out of interest) the error...

> anyway, MY question is...

> Where is the entry to check? I can search but i try to manage my time :D

>> ---

>

[Guest -Phil Clemence]

Re: TweakUI for XP Produces Registry Error

 

 

"KG" <kgstAT@msbx.net> wrote in message

news:odunt39sos23q07s2nvsdn60cv41rbaebt@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:02:58 -0400, "-Phil Clemence" <me@loose_ends.com>

> wrote:

>

>>

>>> "Ramesh, MS-MVP" wrote:

>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize/msg/91cd4b0df80d5c69

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Regards,

>>>>

>>>> Ramesh Srinivasan, Microsoft MVP [Windows Shell/User]

>>>> Windows® Troubleshooting http://www.winhelponline.com

>>>> Winhelponline.com blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Puff" <Puff@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:472C2052-AB8C-429B-98D8-F51DC1416933@microsoft.com...

>>>> I use TweakUI for XP SP 2, and I was having trouble keeping the

>>>> folder

>>>> settings.

>>>> So, I opened the registry and looked at what TweakUI had entered. It

>>>> was

>>>> NOT the same as what Microsoft had recommended on their website.

>>>> The numbers were correct and the placement were correct, BUT, where

>>>> the

>>>> correct way to have the entries is BagMRU Size, TweakUI has it

>>>> entered

>>>> it as

>>>> Bag MRU Size - with a space inbetween the Bag and the MRU.

>>>> After hand correcting this, my folders are now keeping their

>>>> settings.

>>>> Is there anyone else that has noticed this error, and if so, is there

>>>> any way

>>>> to advise Microsoft's TweakUI developers of this of this error in

>>>> their

>>>> program?

>>>> Thanks!

>

>

> Ok I did a ergedit on BagMRU Size and found two uses in two different

> locarions. Each use had it

> both ways, "BagMRU Size" and "Bag MRU Size" with different D words for

> each.

> *****************

> Thank You kGbAT@msbx.net

>

> To reply to this email please remove the AT

> after the kGb in the reply to address as shown above.

 

ahh ok - i will search and see if i can find it too.

Wait... what was i doing this for again?

oh yeah - folder settings :)

>