XP Pro SP1--One--Torrent?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP Pro SP1--One--Torrent?

 

I don't know why XP was never set up the way Office is and the way Vista has

been, but it just wasn't. In any case, you should address the concern to MS

since no one here is in any position to change things. I agree with the

idea that XP should be downloadable just like Office, but it generally isn't

unless you have a subscription to MSDN or some other program like it.

 

"smackedass" <kemanospamcomputer@verizon.net> wrote in message

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> I

> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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>> You don't buy the software. You buy a license to use it. While

>> microsoft does in fact provide for download of some Windows versions now,

>> they do not provide a torrent. Why do you insist it be a torrent,

>> anyway? MS uses an FTP transfer, especially for files larger than 1GB

>> and the transfers are pretty fast.

>

> I'm not demanding a torrent. I'm pleading for the ability to do something

> that any enterprise interested in the proper implementation of good

> customer service ought to. Whether you buy the software or buy the

> license, there's no good reason why the software shouldn't be available,

> if you own the license. Then, during the installation, when they ask for

> the code, you enter the legal code; this should be the gauntlet to

> navigate to make the copy legal. Then, you should have to authenticate

> it, to register the code, and then everybody's happy. But apparently, you

> think that that's too much to ask for. I do not.

>

> sa

[Guest Gotde T Shirt]

Re: XP Pro SP1--One--Torrent?

 

On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:16:25 GMT, smackedass wrote:

 

> I have a bootable SP2 disk, but not

> the original, whatever you'd choose to call it.

..

..

> I have the stupid 25-character label! Why not the software to

> match?!?

>

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....so what prevents you from using your SP2 disk with your customer's

product key?

 

As a bonus, that will save you waiting for the SP2 update to download and

install.

[Guest smackedass]

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I agree with the

> idea that XP should be downloadable just like Office, but it generally

> isn't unless you have a subscription to MSDN or some other program like

> it.

 

Thank you.

 

sa

[Guest smackedass]

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> ...so what prevents you from using your SP2 disk with your customer's

> product key?

 

From my experience, I've never been able to use an SP2 product key for SP1

XP, or vice versa. This is for both Home Edition and Pro. And, believe me,

I'd love to be proven wrong, and if you or someone else out there knows of

some way to make this happen, I'm all ears.

 

But much to my consernation and annoyance, I've never been able to do this.

 

smackedass

[Guest Bill Sharpe]

Re: XP Pro SP1--One--Torrent?

 

Alias wrote:

>

> Compare this to what was happening to Linux five years ago (no downloads

> to speak of) and perhaps you'll see the trend, although you'll probably

> hold on to the past -- Microsoft -- like the generation before rock 'n'

> roll held on to Perry Como.

>

Perry Como? Hey, I'm still holding on to Benny Goodman!

 

Bill

[Guest Gotde T Shirt]

Re: XP Pro SP1--One--Torrent?

 

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:08:30 GMT, smackedass wrote:

>> ...so what prevents you from using your SP2 disk with your customer's

>> product key?

>

> From my experience, I've never been able to use an SP2 product key for SP1

> XP, or vice versa. This is for both Home Edition and Pro. And, believe me,

> I'd love to be proven wrong, and if you or someone else out there knows of

> some way to make this happen, I'm all ears.

>

> But much to my consernation and annoyance, I've never been able to do this.

>

> smackedass

 

I fix PCs for a living and I've done it successfully at least 100 times,

with both XP Home and XP Pro. In fact I've never had it fail provided the

product key was valid.

 

Try it, what have you to lose?

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP Pro SP1--One--Torrent?

 

There should be no problem using any XP retail product key with any XP rtm,

XP SP1, XP SP2, or XP SP3 retail cd for installing Windows as long as the

edition matches (Pro vs Home).

 

"smackedass" <kemanospamcomputer@verizon.net> wrote in message

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>

>> ...so what prevents you from using your SP2 disk with your customer's

>> product key?

>

> From my experience, I've never been able to use an SP2 product key for SP1

> XP, or vice versa. This is for both Home Edition and Pro. And, believe

> me, I'd love to be proven wrong, and if you or someone else out there

> knows of some way to make this happen, I'm all ears.

>

> But much to my consernation and annoyance, I've never been able to do

> this.

>

> smackedass

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

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I didn't "hold on" to Perry Como. I simply preferred his music.

 

"Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message

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> Alias wrote:

>>

>> Compare this to what was happening to Linux five years ago (no downloads

>> to speak of) and perhaps you'll see the trend, although you'll probably

>> hold on to the past -- Microsoft -- like the generation before rock 'n'

>> roll held on to Perry Como.

>>

> Perry Como? Hey, I'm still holding on to Benny Goodman!

>

> Bill

[Guest Alias]

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Colin Barnhorst wrote:

> There are far more first-time Windows users per month than first-time

> Linux users. The sheer size of the population turnover on this planet

> guarantees that much.

 

The fact that five years ago, hardly anyone was using Linux and now

millions are doesn't tell you something? If not, there's no point in

discussing this further.

 

Alias

>

> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>> The ocean is many hundreds of millions of Windows users. In any

>>> case, by no means are all the downloads by first-time users. Plenty

>>> of them are users downloading the latest version of the software.

>>

>> Compare this to what was happening to Linux five years ago (no

>> downloads to speak of) and perhaps you'll see the trend, although

>> you'll probably hold on to the past -- Microsoft -- like the

>> generation before rock 'n' roll held on to Perry Como.

>>

>> Alias

>>>

>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eSyY6OSgIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> PD43 wrote:

>>>>> Alias <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Many people are switching to Ubuntu due to complete

>>>>>> dissatisfaction with MS' so called "anti piracy" programs that

>>>>>> only serve to inconvenience paying customer.

>>>>>

>>>>> "Many"? Like HOW many?

>>>>>

>>>>> Like a drop of water in the ocean.

>>>>

>>>> A million downloads a month is tad more than a "drop of water in the

>>>> ocean", chum.

>>>>

>>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>

>

[Guest Alias]

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smackedass wrote:

>

>> ...so what prevents you from using your SP2 disk with your customer's

>> product key?

>

> From my experience, I've never been able to use an SP2 product key for

> SP1 XP, or vice versa.

 

I have. I have used an SP2 XP Pro CD with a product key that came with

an SP1 XP Pro.

 

Alias

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

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It tells me that millions want a free OS. That's fine.

 

I have no problem with a free OS, but Windows and OS/X serve my purposes

much better than any Linux I have seen. That's the only reason I spend

money to use Windows and OS/X.

 

"Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

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> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>> There are far more first-time Windows users per month than first-time

>> Linux users. The sheer size of the population turnover on this planet

>> guarantees that much.

>

> The fact that five years ago, hardly anyone was using Linux and now

> millions are doesn't tell you something? If not, there's no point in

> discussing this further.

>

> Alias

>>

>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:O0N0sQTgIHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:

>>>> The ocean is many hundreds of millions of Windows users. In any case,

>>>> by no means are all the downloads by first-time users. Plenty of them

>>>> are users downloading the latest version of the software.

>>>

>>> Compare this to what was happening to Linux five years ago (no downloads

>>> to speak of) and perhaps you'll see the trend, although you'll probably

>>> hold on to the past -- Microsoft -- like the generation before rock 'n'

>>> roll held on to Perry Como.

>>>

>>> Alias

>>>>

>>>> "Alias" <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:eSyY6OSgIHA.4744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> PD43 wrote:

>>>>>> Alias <iamalias@removethisgmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Many people are switching to Ubuntu due to complete dissatisfaction

>>>>>>> with MS' so called "anti piracy" programs that only serve to

>>>>>>> inconvenience paying customer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Many"? Like HOW many?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Like a drop of water in the ocean.

>>>>>

>>>>> A million downloads a month is tad more than a "drop of water in the

>>>>> ocean", chum.

>>>>>

>>>>> Alias

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com

>>>>

>>

[Guest PD43]

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"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>It tells me that millions want a free OS. That's fine.

 

And MOST of those downloading it are playing around to see what's to

be seen. There is no way of knowing how many stay with it.

>I have no problem with a free OS, but Windows and OS/X serve my purposes

>much better than any Linux I have seen. That's the only reason I spend

>money to use Windows and OS/X.

 

And the only reason - besides the availability of compatible programs

and drivers - that others choose the same.

[Guest Unknown]

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You would think otherwise if you were running a software business.

"smackedass" <kemanospamcomputer@verizon.net> wrote in message

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>>

>> One word: monopoly

>

>

> I think that whether or not Microsoft is a monopoly (I don't believe that

> it is, Mac, Linux and Novell are available) is inconsequential. My point

> is, once you pay for their software, and have a tag to prove it, the

> software ought to be available for the download. Monopoly or not.

>

> sa

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP Pro SP1--One--Torrent?

 

Yep. Programs and devices are what its all about.

 

"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>

>>It tells me that millions want a free OS. That's fine.

>

> And MOST of those downloading it are playing around to see what's to

> be seen. There is no way of knowing how many stay with it.

>

>>I have no problem with a free OS, but Windows and OS/X serve my purposes

>>much better than any Linux I have seen. That's the only reason I spend

>>money to use Windows and OS/X.

>

> And the only reason - besides the availability of compatible programs

> and drivers - that others choose the same.

[Guest smackedass]

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"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message

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> You would think otherwise if you were running a software business.

 

The only thing that I can think of is that the easier it is to obtain the

software, the more of it will be ATTEMPTED to be hijacked. However, if the

licensing scheme and the authentication were idiot-proofed--and we know that

that's possible, because they're doing it with Office 2007, and I guess with

Vista--it wouldn't matter.

 

As opposed to how Windows '95 was practically an invitation for hijack, but

they know how to avoid that now.

 

sa

[Guest PD43]

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"smackedass" <kemanospamcomputer@verizon.net> wrote:

>The only thing that I can think of is that the easier it is to obtain the

>software, the more of it will be ATTEMPTED to be hijacked. However, if the

>licensing scheme and the authentication were idiot-proofed--and we know that

>that's possible, because they're doing it with Office 2007, and I guess with

>Vista--it wouldn't matter.

 

<sigh>

 

You'd find a complaint whatever the verification process was.