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Posted

Greetings,

Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode

where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command prompt

only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the

C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in the # 5

and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run

scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that?

Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions

are appreciated.

Jim

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon date,

not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the Command

Prompt.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Greetings,

> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode

> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command

> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see

> is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in

> the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also

> said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use

> to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any

> other suggestions are appreciated.

> Jim

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt only"

to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean

by "chose backup"?

Thanks Gary,

Jim

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

> Command Prompt.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Greetings,

>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode

>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command

>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see

>> is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in

>> the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also

>> said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use

>> to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any

>> other suggestions are appreciated.

>> Jim

>>

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

driver. Something about himem.sys

It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on

the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

Thanks,

Jim

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean

> by "chose backup"?

> Thanks Gary,

> Jim

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>> Command Prompt.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Greetings,

>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode

>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command

>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I

>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I

>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both.

>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two

>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>> Jim

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Bill Blanton
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".

Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.

 

 

 

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory driver. Something about himem.sys

> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is

> for business.

> Thanks,

> Jim

> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean by "chose backup"?

>> Thanks Gary,

>> Jim

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the

>>> arcania of the Command Prompt.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Greetings,

>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc.

>>>> The #5 "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put

>>>> in to get it started again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run

>>>> scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols

>>>> for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>> Jim

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Thanks for that Bill. It was driving me mad knowing I was forgetting

something -- though that's what I do these days, forget stuff. Did that

help, JS?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message

news:OiuDOzYgIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".

> Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.

>

>

>

> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>> on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>> Thanks,

>> Jim

>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>> Thanks Gary,

>>> Jim

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>> mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>> "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another,

>>>>> and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started

>>>>> again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad

>>>>> command" on both. It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is

>>>>> "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are

>>>>> the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>> Jim

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Bill Blanton
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

You're welcome Gary, but after re-reading his OP, I'm not sure he

wasn't at "Command prompt only". Even though that "should" have worked.

 

JS, if that fails, download and create a 98 boot disk from http://www.bootdisk.com/ ,

and try running the command from a floppy boot.

 

 

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:Ow$%2362YgIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Thanks for that Bill. It was driving me mad knowing I was forgetting something -- though that's what I do these days, forget

> stuff. Did that help, JS?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message news:OiuDOzYgIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".

>> Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.

>>

>>

>>

>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory driver. Something about himem.sys

>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it

>>> is for business.

>>> Thanks,

>>> Jim

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right

>>>> now?

>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you mean by "chose backup"?

>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the

>>>>> arcania of the Command Prompt.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc.

>>>>>> The #5 "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put

>>>>>> in to get it started again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run

>>>>>> scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols

>>>>>> for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

I have a whole "fix HIMEM.SYS error" post ready, along with the minor other

OP issues (what's a Command Prompt look like?), but considering my current

mental issues, I'd probably get it all wrong. Tell you what, I'll post it

and let YOU handle the follow-up, <eg>.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message

news:Oeu$TBZgIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> You're welcome Gary, but after re-reading his OP, I'm not sure he

> wasn't at "Command prompt only". Even though that "should" have worked.

>

> JS, if that fails, download and create a 98 boot disk from

> http://www.bootdisk.com/ ,

> and try running the command from a floppy boot.

>

>

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:Ow$%2362YgIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Thanks for that Bill. It was driving me mad knowing I was forgetting

>> something -- though that's what I do these days, forget stuff. Did that

>> help, JS?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Bill Blanton" <bblanton@REMOVEmagicnet.net> wrote in message

>> news:OiuDOzYgIHA.5752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Make sure not to choose "Safe mode command prompt".

>>> Choose "Command prompt only". Then type the command.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>>>> on the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for

>>>> business.

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>> mode where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>> "command prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another,

>>>>>>> and all I see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it

>>>>>>> started again. I put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got

>>>>>>> "bad command" on both. It also said to run scanreg when it gets

>>>>>>> started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that? Do I need C:

>>>>>>> only? what are the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions are

>>>>>>> appreciated.

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

(Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

 

Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right here

and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

problem, then continue.

 

"C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless you

need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN input

C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

 

OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you

read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

 

First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

 

Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit

now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older DOS

and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE systems --

continue with the following:

 

EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

(That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

 

Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the file.

Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

> driver. Something about himem.sys

> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered on

> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

> Thanks,

> Jim

> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>> mean by "chose backup"?

>> Thanks Gary,

>> Jim

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>> Command Prompt.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> Greetings,

>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode

>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command

>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I

>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I

>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both.

>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two

>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>> Jim

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Referring to this portion:

> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>

> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

> file.

> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

 

When you first open CONFIG.SYS, you need to press END and then ENTER before

inputting the new line.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>

> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right here

> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

> problem, then continue.

>

> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

> you

> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

> input

> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>

> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you

> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>

> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>

> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit

> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

> DOS

> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

> systems --

> continue with the following:

>

> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>

> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

> file.

> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>> on

>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>> Thanks,

>> Jim

>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>> Thanks Gary,

>>> Jim

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>> mode

>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command

>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I

>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I

>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>> both.

>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two

>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>> Jim

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

 

Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new line.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>

> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right here

> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

> problem, then continue.

>

> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

> you

> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

> input

> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>

> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you

> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>

> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>

> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit

> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

> DOS

> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

> systems --

> continue with the following:

>

> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>

> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

> file.

> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>> on

>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>> Thanks,

>> Jim

>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>> Thanks Gary,

>>> Jim

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>> mode

>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command

>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I

>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I

>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>> both.

>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other two

>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>> Jim

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed to

do.

I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

when.)

I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top) I

added the "device" line here.

When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up in

the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what to

do next, I would appreciate it.

Thanks for your help,

Jim

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>

> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

> line.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>

>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>> here

>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>> problem, then continue.

>>

>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>> you

>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>> input

>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>

>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help you

>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>

>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>

>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error, quit

>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>> DOS

>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>> systems --

>> continue with the following:

>>

>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>

>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>> file.

>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>>> on

>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>> Thanks,

>>> Jim

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>> mode

>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command

>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I

>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I

>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>> both.

>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>> two

>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

 

Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

 

When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option

"Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one that's

highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

 

Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get the

memory errors?

 

Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do it

often?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed

> to do.

> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

> when.)

> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)

> I added the "device" line here.

> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up

> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

> to do next, I would appreciate it.

> Thanks for your help,

> Jim

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>

>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>> line.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>

>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>> here

>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>> problem, then continue.

>>>

>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>>> you

>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>> input

>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>

>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>> you

>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>>

>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>> quit

>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>>> DOS

>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>> systems --

>>> continue with the following:

>>>

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>> file.

>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>>>> on

>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

BTW, I tried to download the docmemory software, but it would not download.

I kept getting bad argument msgs(?)

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed

> to do.

> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

> when.)

> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)

> I added the "device" line here.

> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up

> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

> to do next, I would appreciate it.

> Thanks for your help,

> Jim

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>

>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>> line.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>

>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>> here

>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>> problem, then continue.

>>>

>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>>> you

>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>> input

>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>

>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>> you

>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>>

>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>> quit

>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>>> DOS

>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>> systems --

>>> continue with the following:

>>>

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>> file.

>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>>>> on

>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Also, if it could be a bad memory, I have a spare memory stick I could put

in there to try. Good or Bad idea?

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed

> to do.

> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

> when.)

> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)

> I added the "device" line here.

> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up

> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

> to do next, I would appreciate it.

> Thanks for your help,

> Jim

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>

>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>> line.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>

>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>> here

>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>> problem, then continue.

>>>

>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>>> you

>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>> input

>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>

>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>> you

>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>>

>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>> quit

>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>>> DOS

>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>> systems --

>>> continue with the following:

>>>

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>> file.

>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>>>> on

>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

I did some things on my own here. I downloaded the "windows memory

diagnostic and put that floppy in and tried to start, just before it goes

into the setup screen, I get a msg(just like with the bootdisk)" remove

media and enter".Then the same thing starts all over again.

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed

> to do.

> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

> when.)

> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)

> I added the "device" line here.

> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up

> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

> to do next, I would appreciate it.

> Thanks for your help,

> Jim

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>

>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>> line.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>

>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>> here

>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>> problem, then continue.

>>>

>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>>> you

>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>> input

>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>

>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>> you

>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>>

>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>> quit

>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>>> DOS

>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>> systems --

>>> continue with the following:

>>>

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>> file.

>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>>>> on

>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.

1. my machine will not start normally.

2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)

3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have extended

memory driver"

4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and when I

clicked on "view updates" POW!

Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse

further. We'll get this done!

Thanks,

Jim

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

>

> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

>

> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option

> "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one that's

> highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

>

> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get

> the memory errors?

>

> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do it

> often?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed

>> to do.

>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

>> when.)

>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)

>> I added the "device" line here.

>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

>> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up

>> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

>> to do next, I would appreciate it.

>> Thanks for your help,

>> Jim

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>>> line.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>>

>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>>> here

>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic

>>>> hints:

>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>>> problem, then continue.

>>>>

>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>>>> you

>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>>> input

>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>>

>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end

>>>> of

>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>>> you

>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>>>

>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>

>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>>> quit

>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>>>> DOS

>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>>> systems --

>>>> continue with the following:

>>>>

>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>

>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>>> file.

>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be

>>>>> covered on

>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command

>>>>>> prompt

>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based

>>>>>>> upon

>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

"POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the cord was

pulled?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.

> 1. my machine will not start normally.

> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)

> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have extended

> memory driver"

> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and when I

> clicked on "view updates" POW!

> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse

> further. We'll get this done!

> Thanks,

> Jim

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

>>

>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

>>

>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option

>> "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one that's

>> highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

>>

>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get

>> the memory errors?

>>

>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do

>> it often?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am

>>> supposed to do.

>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

>>> when.)

>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on

>>> top) I added the "device" line here.

>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

>>> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes

>>> up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

>>> to do next, I would appreciate it.

>>> Thanks for your help,

>>> Jim

>>>

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>

>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>>>> line.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>>>

>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>>>> here

>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic

>>>>> hints:

>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>>>> problem, then continue.

>>>>>

>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part,

>>>>> the

>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist.

>>>>> Unless you

>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>>>> input

>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>>>

>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end

>>>>> of

>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>>>> you

>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of

>>>>> course.

>>>>>

>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>

>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>>>> quit

>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file

>>>>> is

>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in

>>>>> older DOS

>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>>>> systems --

>>>>> continue with the following:

>>>>>

>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>

>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>>>> file.

>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended

>>>>>> memory

>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be

>>>>>> covered on

>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command

>>>>>>> prompt

>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based

>>>>>>>> upon

>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and

>>>>>>>>> all I

>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started

>>>>>>>>> again. I

>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Only if it's for that motherboard. If it is meant for the motherboard then

swap it all out and put in the "spare", then maybe more swapping about until

you find the bad stick.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:u6TK7rggIHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Also, if it could be a bad memory, I have a spare memory stick I could put

> in there to try. Good or Bad idea?

> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed

>> to do.

>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

>> when.)

>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)

>> I added the "device" line here.

>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

>> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up

>> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

>> to do next, I would appreciate it.

>> Thanks for your help,

>> Jim

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>>> line.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>>

>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>>> here

>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic

>>>> hints:

>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>>> problem, then continue.

>>>>

>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>>>> you

>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>>> input

>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>>

>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end

>>>> of

>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>>> you

>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>>>

>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>

>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>>> quit

>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>>>> DOS

>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>>> systems --

>>>> continue with the following:

>>>>

>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>

>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>>> file.

>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be

>>>>> covered on

>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command

>>>>>> prompt

>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based

>>>>>>> upon

>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.

>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

>

Guest Ben Myers
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Greetings,

> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the mode

> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5 "command prompt

> only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all I see is the

> C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again. I put in the # 5

> and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on both. It also said to run

> scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the command I use to start that?

> Do I need C: only? what are the other two symbols for? Any other suggestions

> are appreciated.

> Jim

 

Make sure the computer has a valid "c:\msdos.sys" file, something like this:

 

[Paths]

WinDir=C:\WINDOWS

WinBootDir=C:\WINDOWS

HostWinBootDrv=C

[Options]

BOOTGUI=1

;end

 

Ben

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had something

about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I am not sure, I may

have tried to reboot.

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the cord

> was pulled?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.

>> 1. my machine will not start normally.

>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)

>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have extended

>> memory driver"

>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and when

>> I clicked on "view updates" POW!

>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse

>> further. We'll get this done!

>> Thanks,

>> Jim

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

>>>

>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

>>>

>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option

>>> "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one

>>> that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

>>>

>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get

>>> the memory errors?

>>>

>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do

>>> it often?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am

>>>> supposed to do.

>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory

>>>> driver.

>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

>>>> when.)

>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on

>>>> top) I added the "device" line here.

>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

>>>> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes

>>>> up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me

>>>> what to do next, I would appreciate it.

>>>> Thanks for your help,

>>>> Jim

>>>>

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>

>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>>>>> line.

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>>>>> here

>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic

>>>>>> hints:

>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>>>>> problem, then continue.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part,

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist.

>>>>>> Unless you

>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>>>>> input

>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is

>>>>>> a

>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end

>>>>>> of

>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of

>>>>>> course.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>>>>> quit

>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file

>>>>>> is

>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in

>>>>>> older DOS

>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>>>>> systems --

>>>>>> continue with the following:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close

>>>>>> the file.

>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended

>>>>>>> memory

>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be

>>>>>>> covered on

>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for

>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command

>>>>>>>> prompt

>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what

>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based

>>>>>>>>> upon

>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in

>>>>>>>>>> the mode

>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and

>>>>>>>>>> all I

>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started

>>>>>>>>>> again. I

>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg"

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the

>>>>>>>>>> other two

>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the garbage is

left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running mental scenarios and my

own admittedly faulty memories tell me it's actually common -- cross-linked

files fixed but not the accompanying lost clusters.

 

But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the instructions I

already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure where HIMEM.SYS is located,

etc. What are the results?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had

> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I am not

> sure, I may have tried to reboot.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the cord

>> was pulled?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.

>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.

>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)

>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have extended

>>> memory driver"

>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and when

>>> I clicked on "view updates" POW!

>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse

>>> further. We'll get this done!

>>> Thanks,

>>> Jim

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

>>>>

>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

>>>>

>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an option

>>>> "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the one

>>>> that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

>>>>

>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you get

>>>> the memory errors?

>>>>

>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it do

>>>> it often?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am

>>>>> supposed to do.

>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory

>>>>> driver.

>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

>>>>> when.)

>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on

>>>>> top) I added the "device" line here.

>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to

>>>>> do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes

>>>>> up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me

>>>>> what to do next, I would appreciate it.

>>>>> Thanks for your help,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>>

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>>>>>> line.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop

>>>>>>> right here

>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic

>>>>>>> hints:

>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>>>>>> problem, then continue.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part,

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist.

>>>>>>> Unless you

>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you

>>>>>>> CAN input

>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is

>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the

>>>>>>> end of

>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to

>>>>>>> help you

>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of

>>>>>>> course.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this

>>>>>>> command:

>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>>>>>> quit

>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file

>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in

>>>>>>> older DOS

>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>>>>>> systems --

>>>>>>> continue with the following:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close

>>>>>>> the file.

>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended

>>>>>>>> memory

>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be

>>>>>>>> covered on

>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for

>>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command

>>>>>>>>> prompt

>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what

>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based

>>>>>>>>>> upon

>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of

>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in

>>>>>>>>>>> the mode

>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and

>>>>>>>>>>> all I

>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started

>>>>>>>>>>> again. I

>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command"

>>>>>>>>>>> on both.

>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg"

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the

>>>>>>>>>>> other two

>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

OK, I'm losing track again, and I have other things I need to do. I want to

take some time later to read through and research more. See you then.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am supposed

> to do.

> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory driver.

> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it and

> when.)

> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on top)

> I added the "device" line here.

> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to do

> then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still comes up

> in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me what

> to do next, I would appreciate it.

> Thanks for your help,

> Jim

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>

>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a new

>> line.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>

>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop right

>>> here

>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic hints:

>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show a

>>> problem, then continue.

>>>

>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part, the

>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist. Unless

>>> you

>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command is

>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you CAN

>>> input

>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>

>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS is a

>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the end of

>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to help

>>> you

>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of course.

>>>

>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this command:

>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If error,

>>> quit

>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the file is

>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in older

>>> DOS

>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>> systems --

>>> continue with the following:

>>>

>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>

>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close the

>>> file.

>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended memory

>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be covered

>>>> on

>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for business.

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command prompt

>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what you

>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based upon

>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of the

>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in the

>>>>>>> mode

>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and all

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started again.

>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command" on

>>>>>>> both.

>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg" the

>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the other

>>>>>>> two

>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

I did what you said about the config.sys.(I think)

Here is what I did,

from C: I put dir C:\windows\himem.sys

I got a bunch of numbers,date, etc(if you need some of the specifics,let me

know and I will do it again)

Then I wrote edit C:\config.sys and a blue screen with "config.sys" on top

came up.

Here is where I wrote device=C:\windows\himem.sys

Then I hit alt F-S, which I thought you said it would save it, but it

didn't,it brought up a search request. I esc out of that and hit alt-f-x and

then it said it was saved. I then tried to reboot with no luck.

 

 

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:unp2qnhgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the garbage

> is left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running mental scenarios and

> my own admittedly faulty memories tell me it's actually common --

> cross-linked files fixed but not the accompanying lost clusters.

>

> But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the instructions I

> already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure where HIMEM.SYS is located,

> etc. What are the results?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

> news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had

>> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I am not

>> sure, I may have tried to reboot.

>>

>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the cord

>>> was pulled?

>>>

>>> --

>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>

>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.

>>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.

>>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)

>>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have extended

>>>> memory driver"

>>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and

>>>> when I clicked on "view updates" POW!

>>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse

>>>> further. We'll get this done!

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Jim

>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

>>>>>

>>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

>>>>>

>>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an

>>>>> option "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the

>>>>> one that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

>>>>>

>>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you

>>>>> get the memory errors?

>>>>>

>>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it

>>>>> do it often?

>>>>>

>>>>> --

>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>

>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am

>>>>>> supposed to do.

>>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory

>>>>>> driver.

>>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it

>>>>>> and when.)

>>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on

>>>>>> top) I added the "device" line here.

>>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to

>>>>>> do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

>>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still

>>>>>> comes up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

>>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me

>>>>>> what to do next, I would appreciate it.

>>>>>> Thanks for your help,

>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a

>>>>>>> new line.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop

>>>>>>>> right here

>>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic

>>>>>>>> hints:

>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show

>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>> problem, then continue.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt part,

>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist.

>>>>>>>> Unless you

>>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command

>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you

>>>>>>>> CAN input

>>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS

>>>>>>>> is a

>>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the

>>>>>>>> end of

>>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to

>>>>>>>> help you

>>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of

>>>>>>>> course.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this

>>>>>>>> command:

>>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If

>>>>>>>> error, quit

>>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the

>>>>>>>> file is

>>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in

>>>>>>>> older DOS

>>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>>>>>>> systems --

>>>>>>>> continue with the following:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close

>>>>>>>> the file.

>>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended

>>>>>>>>> memory

>>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be

>>>>>>>>> covered on

>>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for

>>>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command

>>>>>>>>>> prompt

>>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know what

>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup based

>>>>>>>>>>> upon

>>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania of

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in

>>>>>>>>>>>> the mode

>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another, and

>>>>>>>>>>>> all I

>>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started

>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command"

>>>>>>>>>>>> on both.

>>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg"

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the

>>>>>>>>>>>> other two

>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>

Guest Gary S. Terhune
Posted

Re: registry help,please!

 

Run EDIT CONFIG.SYS command again and see if the DEVICE= line is still

there.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

news:uvvQ70hgIHA.2004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>I did what you said about the config.sys.(I think)

> Here is what I did,

> from C: I put dir C:\windows\himem.sys

> I got a bunch of numbers,date, etc(if you need some of the specifics,let

> me know and I will do it again)

> Then I wrote edit C:\config.sys and a blue screen with "config.sys" on

> top came up.

> Here is where I wrote device=C:\windows\himem.sys

> Then I hit alt F-S, which I thought you said it would save it, but it

> didn't,it brought up a search request. I esc out of that and hit alt-f-x

> and then it said it was saved. I then tried to reboot with no luck.

>

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:unp2qnhgIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> OK, typical "crash". Could be memory. Could be, though, that the garbage

>> is left over a previous run of SCANDISK. I'm running mental scenarios and

>> my own admittedly faulty memories tell me it's actually common --

>> cross-linked files fixed but not the accompanying lost clusters.

>>

>> But that's only one possibility. You need to follow the instructions I

>> already gave you to edit CONFIG.SYS, make sure where HIMEM.SYS is

>> located, etc. What are the results?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>> news:%23LgzgghgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> When I clicked on "view updates" I got a page fault msg. that had

>>> something about "ddhelp",then I got the blue screen.After that, I am not

>>> sure, I may have tried to reboot.

>>>

>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>> news:Ouz%23dJhgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>> "POW"? Froze the screen? Rebooted itself? Died altogether as if the

>>>> cord was pulled?

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>

>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:eNJba5ggIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>> Ok, Gary, I think I have been skipping around a little.

>>>>> 1. my machine will not start normally.

>>>>> 2.I can only go to option #5"command prompt only"(shift-f5)

>>>>> 3.when I run scanreg, I get the msg thats says"you do not have

>>>>> extended memory driver"

>>>>> 4.I got a critical update notice from MS and got online(dialup) and

>>>>> when I clicked on "view updates" POW!

>>>>> Is that better? I have made some other posts that may help or confuse

>>>>> further. We'll get this done!

>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>> Jim

>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>> news:e5PrWnggIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>> OK, now I need to make sure what's what:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Your machine won't start normally, or will it?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When you currently start, without a floppy boot disk, you get an

>>>>>> option "Command Prompt Only" and no other option? Or is that just the

>>>>>> one that's highlighted? Or are you simply trying to run SCANREG?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Is it only when you get the Command Prompt and run SCANREG that you

>>>>>> get the memory errors?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Do you know what made your machine crashing the first place? Does it

>>>>>> do it often?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "JS" <sivwrong@fred.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:%23C90PaggIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>> ok guys, I am a little confused on the order of things that I am

>>>>>>> supposed to do.

>>>>>>> I did scanreg and it told me about the himem and extended memory

>>>>>>> driver.

>>>>>>> I have made a boot disk,(although I am not sure what to do with it

>>>>>>> and when.)

>>>>>>> I did the edit c:config.sys thing in the blue screen(C:config.sys on

>>>>>>> top) I added the "device" line here.

>>>>>>> When I did the alt-f-s , a search thing came up.I didnt know what to

>>>>>>> do then, so I esc and did alt f-x and it said it was saved.

>>>>>>> I use the reset button to restart and nothing is different.Still

>>>>>>> comes up in the setup with command prompt only highlighted.

>>>>>>> I am pretty good on the step-by-step concept, so if you can tell me

>>>>>>> what to do next, I would appreciate it.

>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,

>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:%23GIga$ZgIHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>> CORRECTION: Referring to the following part:

>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Before you can input anything, press END and then ENTER, to get a

>>>>>>>> new line.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>>> news:%23XS434ZgIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>> (Be sure to read all the way through before doing anything.)

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Your symptoms point to a possible RAM failure. Suggest you stop

>>>>>>>>> right here

>>>>>>>>> and test your RAM using floppy-based tools like, DocMemory from

>>>>>>>>> http://www.simmtester.com/. See here for lots more RAM diagnostic

>>>>>>>>> hints:

>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2wehd3 If a day's worth of testing doesn't show

>>>>>>>>> a

>>>>>>>>> problem, then continue.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "C:\>" IS the Command Prompt. The '>' character is the Prompt

>>>>>>>>> part, the

>>>>>>>>> 'C:\' part is the Directory in which the Prompt is set to exist.

>>>>>>>>> Unless you

>>>>>>>>> need to change the root directory (C:\), that part of the command

>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>> inherent -- you only HAVE TO input what comes after that, but you

>>>>>>>>> CAN input

>>>>>>>>> C:\ to start new commands if you want to.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> OK, we'll do it step by step. Each line below that is in ALL CAPS

>>>>>>>>> is a

>>>>>>>>> command or data input -- input those lines and press enter at the

>>>>>>>>> end of

>>>>>>>>> those lines. (You don't have to use ALL CAPS, it's just a way to

>>>>>>>>> help you

>>>>>>>>> read this message.) You do all this from a floppy boot disk, of

>>>>>>>>> course.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> First, determine if HIMEM.SYS exists in C:\WINDOWS with this

>>>>>>>>> command:

>>>>>>>>> DIR C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Do you get an error or do you get file info for HIMEM.SYS? If

>>>>>>>>> error, quit

>>>>>>>>> now and report back. We'll go looking for it. But, assuming the

>>>>>>>>> file is

>>>>>>>>> where we expect it to be -- it usually is but may be elsewhere in

>>>>>>>>> older DOS

>>>>>>>>> and/or WIN95 that have been upgraded, or new but modified 98/98SE

>>>>>>>>> systems --

>>>>>>>>> continue with the following:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> EDIT C:\CONFIG.SYS

>>>>>>>>> (That opens the file for editing. Input the following line:)

>>>>>>>>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Now, press Alt-F-S to save CONFIG.SYS, then press Alt-F-X to close

>>>>>>>>> the file.

>>>>>>>>> Remove the floppy disk and then restart. What happens?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>> news:O8EN3SXgIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>> OK, I got scanreg to work and it says that there is no extended

>>>>>>>>>> memory

>>>>>>>>>> driver. Something about himem.sys

>>>>>>>>>> It says to add line to boot drive: device=C:\windows\himem.sys

>>>>>>>>>> How do I do this? I have the 98cd, if that helps. Would this be

>>>>>>>>>> covered on

>>>>>>>>>> the MS website? I need this to be fixed by mon.am it is for

>>>>>>>>>> business.

>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,

>>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>> news:OqiXakWgIHA.1212@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>> So, am I trying to make an extra step by trying to get "command

>>>>>>>>>>> prompt

>>>>>>>>>>> only" to work? I type scanreg from where it is right now?

>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking that I had to start it up first. I don't know

>>>>>>>>>>> what you

>>>>>>>>>>> mean by "chose backup"?

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Gary,

>>>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>> news:eLKo1TWgIHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, the command is SCANREG (all by itself.) Choose backup

>>>>>>>>>>>> based upon

>>>>>>>>>>>> date, not filename. I'll let someone else explain the arcania

>>>>>>>>>>>> of the

>>>>>>>>>>>> Command Prompt.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary S. Terhune

>>>>>>>>>>>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> "JS" <sivright@ultravision.net> wrote in message

>>>>>>>>>>>> news:uMd3irVgIHA.5036@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, my 98 pc crashed and when I restarted it, it came up in

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mode

>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you get 5 or so choices, normal, safe mode,etc. The #5

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "command

>>>>>>>>>>>>> prompt only" was highlighted and I couldn't choose another,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> see is the C:\> . What command do I put in to get it started

>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> put in the # 5 and "command prompt only" and got "bad command"

>>>>>>>>>>>>> on both.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> It also said to run scanreg when it gets started. Is "scanreg"

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> command I use to start that? Do I need C: only? what are the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> other two

>>>>>>>>>>>>> symbols for? Any other suggestions are appreciated.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>

>

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