Reinstalling XP Home - license

March 12, 2008

After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

years old - pre SP1.

The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding. My

concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until my OS

is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and invalidate my

OS install?

Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in from

get go?

Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

years ago?

Thanks - Charlie

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

There is no reason to remove peripherals or turn them off in BIOS when

installing XP. It would be helpful to "Slipstream" your XP CD to SP2 to

reduce the post install updates. However even with SP2 you'll still need

to apply 90+ updates and activation/validation is required before you can

use update.microsoft.com.

Making use of an imaging program such as Acronis True Image would

prevent ( or make it easier ) to restore your setup without a manual

install.

With some routine maintenance, it's seldom necessary to start with a bare

metal machine and install XP, drivers, apps....

"Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

> After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

> purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

> years old - pre SP1.

>

> The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

> updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding.

> My

> concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until my

> OS

> is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

> insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and invalidate

> my

> OS install?

>

> Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in

> from

> get go?

>

> Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

> having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

> years ago?

>

> Thanks - Charlie

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

Thanks for the reply. What does "slipstream" mean? I'd love to have a new

disc with SP2 but without having to purchase a new license.

The reason for a fresh install is years of downloading and installing

programs. somewhere along this time I have corrupted many files. This PC is

my test PC as it was a spare that I could afford to "play" and take chances

with. I've learned a lot and paid many prices. Now, I want to turn it into

a clean working PC now.

"R. McCarty" wrote:

> There is no reason to remove peripherals or turn them off in BIOS when

> installing XP. It would be helpful to "Slipstream" your XP CD to SP2 to

> reduce the post install updates. However even with SP2 you'll still need

> to apply 90+ updates and activation/validation is required before you can

> use update.microsoft.com.

>

> Making use of an imaging program such as Acronis True Image would

> prevent ( or make it easier ) to restore your setup without a manual

> install.

> With some routine maintenance, it's seldom necessary to start with a bare

> metal machine and install XP, drivers, apps....

>

> "Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

> > After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

> > purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

> > years old - pre SP1.

> >

> > The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

> > updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding.

> > My

> > concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until my

> > OS

> > is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

> > insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and invalidate

> > my

> > OS install?

> >

> > Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in

> > from

> > get go?

> >

> > Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

> > having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

> > years ago?

> >

> > Thanks - Charlie

>

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

Slipstream means to embed updated components into the disk. There are

several tools that can automate the process. Not only can you include a

Service Pack but also 3rd-Party drivers and Hotfixes ( KB # ____ ). The

programs also provide a way to omit certain components from the CD,

but that is a more advanced feature.

AutoStreamer and nLite are two programs that can help create a slipstream

disk.

"Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:342B0F2D-BB99-45C8-B7EE-5166FD09561A@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for the reply. What does "slipstream" mean? I'd love to have a

> new

> disc with SP2 but without having to purchase a new license.

>

> The reason for a fresh install is years of downloading and installing

> programs. somewhere along this time I have corrupted many files. This PC

> is

> my test PC as it was a spare that I could afford to "play" and take

> chances

> with. I've learned a lot and paid many prices. Now, I want to turn it

> into

> a clean working PC now.

>

> "R. McCarty" wrote:

>

>> There is no reason to remove peripherals or turn them off in BIOS when

>> installing XP. It would be helpful to "Slipstream" your XP CD to SP2 to

>> reduce the post install updates. However even with SP2 you'll still need

>> to apply 90+ updates and activation/validation is required before you can

>> use update.microsoft.com.

>>

>> Making use of an imaging program such as Acronis True Image would

>> prevent ( or make it easier ) to restore your setup without a manual

>> install.

>> With some routine maintenance, it's seldom necessary to start with a bare

>> metal machine and install XP, drivers, apps....

>>

>> "Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

>> > After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

>> > purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is

>> > several

>> > years old - pre SP1.

>> >

>> > The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

>> > updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before

>> > proceeding.

>> > My

>> > concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until

>> > my

>> > OS

>> > is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

>> > insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and

>> > invalidate

>> > my

>> > OS install?

>> >

>> > Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in

>> > from

>> > get go?

>> >

>> > Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

>> > having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for

>> > many

>> > years ago?

>> >

>> > Thanks - Charlie

>>

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

Actually you should remove all ZIP drives, usb attached drives and

printers with memory cards. They may cause some unexpected drive

lettering issues. Also removing any hardware that requires special

drivers to be installed separately before windows sees it, can save you

a lot of grief.

R. McCarty wrote:

> There is no reason to remove peripherals or turn them off in BIOS when

> installing XP. It would be helpful to "Slipstream" your XP CD to SP2 to

> reduce the post install updates. However even with SP2 you'll still need

> to apply 90+ updates and activation/validation is required before you can

> use update.microsoft.com.

>

> Making use of an imaging program such as Acronis True Image would

> prevent ( or make it easier ) to restore your setup without a manual

> install.

> With some routine maintenance, it's seldom necessary to start with a bare

> metal machine and install XP, drivers, apps....

>

> "Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

>

>>After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

>>purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

>>years old - pre SP1.

>>

>>The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

>>updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding.

>>My

>>concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until my

>>OS

>>is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

>>insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and invalidate

>>my

>>OS install?

>>

>>Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in

>>from

>>get go?

>>

>>Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

>>having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

>>years ago?

>>

>>Thanks - Charlie

>

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

See http://www.nliteos.com/guide/ for a free slipstreaming program. It

makes a new XP cd that integrates your old cd with SP2 which is like the

cd's in the XP boxes in the stores. Your product key will work just fine

with it.

"Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:342B0F2D-BB99-45C8-B7EE-5166FD09561A@microsoft.com...

> Thanks for the reply. What does "slipstream" mean? I'd love to have a

> new

> disc with SP2 but without having to purchase a new license.

>

> The reason for a fresh install is years of downloading and installing

> programs. somewhere along this time I have corrupted many files. This PC

> is

> my test PC as it was a spare that I could afford to "play" and take

> chances

> with. I've learned a lot and paid many prices. Now, I want to turn it

> into

> a clean working PC now.

>

> "R. McCarty" wrote:

>

>> There is no reason to remove peripherals or turn them off in BIOS when

>> installing XP. It would be helpful to "Slipstream" your XP CD to SP2 to

>> reduce the post install updates. However even with SP2 you'll still need

>> to apply 90+ updates and activation/validation is required before you can

>> use update.microsoft.com.

>>

>> Making use of an imaging program such as Acronis True Image would

>> prevent ( or make it easier ) to restore your setup without a manual

>> install.

>> With some routine maintenance, it's seldom necessary to start with a bare

>> metal machine and install XP, drivers, apps....

>>

>> "Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

>> > After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

>> > purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is

>> > several

>> > years old - pre SP1.

>> >

>> > The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

>> > updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before

>> > proceeding.

>> > My

>> > concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until

>> > my

>> > OS

>> > is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

>> > insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and

>> > invalidate

>> > my

>> > OS install?

>> >

>> > Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in

>> > from

>> > get go?

>> >

>> > Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

>> > having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for

>> > many

>> > years ago?

>> >

>> > Thanks - Charlie

>>

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

> The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

> updates.

Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft

Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP

installation:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery installs.

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

Charlie7805 wrote:

> After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

> purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

> years old - pre SP1.

>

> The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

> updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding.

> My concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until

> my OS is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start

> to insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and

> invalidate

> my OS install?

>

> Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in

> from

> get go?

>

> Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

> having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

> years ago?

>

> Thanks - Charlie

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

at this stage you should also check for motherboard updates first. If

there is a bios update you should do it before you start. Also most

motherboards come with drivers for the chips that install in windows and

windows update doesn't necessarily have them

Charlie7805 wrote:

> Thanks for the reply. What does "slipstream" mean? I'd love to have a new

> disc with SP2 but without having to purchase a new license.

>

> The reason for a fresh install is years of downloading and installing

> programs. somewhere along this time I have corrupted many files. This PC is

> my test PC as it was a spare that I could afford to "play" and take chances

> with. I've learned a lot and paid many prices. Now, I want to turn it into

> a clean working PC now.

>

> "R. McCarty" wrote:

>

>> There is no reason to remove peripherals or turn them off in BIOS when

>> installing XP. It would be helpful to "Slipstream" your XP CD to SP2 to

>> reduce the post install updates. However even with SP2 you'll still need

>> to apply 90+ updates and activation/validation is required before you can

>> use update.microsoft.com.

>>

>> Making use of an imaging program such as Acronis True Image would

>> prevent ( or make it easier ) to restore your setup without a manual

>> install.

>> With some routine maintenance, it's seldom necessary to start with a bare

>> metal machine and install XP, drivers, apps....

>>

>> "Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

>>> After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

>>> purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

>>> years old - pre SP1.

>>>

>>> The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

>>> updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding.

>>> My

>>> concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until my

>>> OS

>>> is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

>>> insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and invalidate

>>> my

>>> OS install?

>>>

>>> Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in

>>> from

>>> get go?

>>>

>>> Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

>>> having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

>>> years ago?

>>>

>>> Thanks - Charlie

>>

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

"Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

> After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

> purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

> years old - pre SP1.

>

> The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

> updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding. My

> concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until my OS

> is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

> insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and invalidate my

> OS install?

>

> Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in from

> get go?

>

> Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

> having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

> years ago?

>

> Thanks - Charlie

You've already been advised to create a slipstreamed instillation CD but I

thought I'd pass along the following web sites which you may find helpful.

Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm

How to use AutoStreamer to Slipstream Windows XP Service Pack 2

http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/using_autostreamer/using_autostreamer.html

Here are some of the files you'll need to obtain in order to follow this

procedure:

Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and

Developers

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=049c9dbe-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en

Order Windows XP Service Pack 2 on CD

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx

AutoStreamer 1.0.33

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1

CDBurner XPPro

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/download.php

Personally, I don't see the need to remove internal components, other than a

card reader, before reinstalling XP. Any external peripherals should be

disconnected. Mouse, keyboard, and monitor are the only items to leave

connected.

As for activating Windows, why rush? You've got 30 days to get the computer set

up the way you want. To obtain updates for Windows, configure Automatic Updates

in Control Panel to "Download updates for me, but let me chose when to install

them". A yellow shield will appear in the notification area when the files are

downloaded. Double click the icon and chose Custom Install. You can now pick and

chose what updates you want to install.

Good luck

Nepatsfan

March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:54:01 -0700, Charlie7805

<Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply. What does "slipstream" mean? I'd love to have a new

> disc with SP2 but without having to purchase a new license.

The word "slipstreaming" was originally used to refer to the practice

of many software manufacturers of including updates to their product

on the distribution CD without any real announcement of what they were

doing or differentiation of the various kind of CDs. It was always a

disparaging term because it was poor practice. It was used as a way

for the manufacturer not to have to print a different box, manual,

etc. for the updated version, and to sell older stock that didn't

appear to be outdated, but actually was. That saved them money, but it

left the customer unable to tell whether he was buying the new version

or the old.

Somewhere along the line, people started creating their own updated

versions of some software, by merging the update files with the

original CD. Someone got the bright idea to call it by the same name

"slipstreaming," without realizing that the name was originally used

in a disparaging way.

The term stuck. I dislike the use of the word this way, but the

original meaning has been lost, so I long ago gave up trying to fight

it. Since everybody now uses it simply to mean a version with the

upgrade incorporated in it, I reluctantly go along.

So these days a slipstreamed copy of XP simply means an installation

CD that you've made yourself that incorporates an upgrade, such as

SP2.

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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March 12, 2008

Re: Reinstalling XP Home - license

Thank you all for your help.

I have prepared for the reinstall. I have a GA-8SR533P and updated all

drivers & BIOS. My boot drive is partitioned and GHOSTED both to a another

drive so transferring files and updated drivers will be easy. The last time

I did this I remember now that I spoke to an MS rep and had to convince her

the license was mine and valid. I even had to tell her why I decided to

format and reinstall. Hope it goes smoother this time...

"Nepatsfan" wrote:

> "Charlie7805" <Charlie7805@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:A39236D5-1BFC-44A8-ADF0-2AD94D1DE66E@microsoft.com...

> > After several years, it's time for me to start over. I have (legally

> > purchased) my original disc with the license number. This disc is several

> > years old - pre SP1.

> >

> > The last time I started over I remember having issues with installing

> > updates. I believe I had to register first (validate) before proceeding. My

> > concern is I want to strip my pc of all PCI cards, DVD and burner until my OS

> > is installed with all the updates. Once I'm at that point and start to

> > insert the cards one at a time, won't XP read the "score" and invalidate my

> > OS install?

> >

> > Or should I not worry about it and install the OS with all the cards in from

> > get go?

> >

> > Is there an easy way for me to proceed with the new OS install without

> > having pains in convincing MS that the license is mine and paid for many

> > years ago?

> >

> > Thanks - Charlie

>

> You've already been advised to create a slipstreamed instillation CD but I

> thought I'd pass along the following web sites which you may find helpful.

>

> Create a Slip Stream version of Windows XP

> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm

>

> How to use AutoStreamer to Slipstream Windows XP Service Pack 2

> http://www.simplyguides.net/guides/using_autostreamer/using_autostreamer.html

>

> Here are some of the files you'll need to obtain in order to follow this

> procedure:

>

> Windows XP Service Pack 2 Network Installation Package for IT Professionals and

> Developers

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=049c9dbe-3b8e-4f30-8245-9e368d3cdb5a&displaylang=en

>

> Order Windows XP Service Pack 2 on CD

> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/sp2/cdorder/en_us/default.mspx

>

> AutoStreamer 1.0.33

> http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1092632287/1

>

> CDBurner XPPro

> http://www.cdburnerxp.se/download.php

>

> Personally, I don't see the need to remove internal components, other than a

> card reader, before reinstalling XP. Any external peripherals should be

> disconnected. Mouse, keyboard, and monitor are the only items to leave

> connected.

>

> As for activating Windows, why rush? You've got 30 days to get the computer set

> up the way you want. To obtain updates for Windows, configure Automatic Updates

> in Control Panel to "Download updates for me, but let me chose when to install

> them". A yellow shield will appear in the notification area when the files are

> downloaded. Double click the icon and chose Custom Install. You can now pick and

> chose what updates you want to install.

>

> Good luck

>

> Nepatsfan

>

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