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Guest David Webb

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Re: Windows XP SP# Final?

 

If you go back to the download page that you cited and scroll down to the

section titled, "Additional Information", it reads as follows:

 

Please visit the Windows XP SP3 TechCenter to provide feedback on this beta

release.

[end quote]

 

Based on that, I'd say it's still a beta release.

 

"cwknute" <cwknute@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:BBB79271-7769-4B91-9724-27AD2FAC2504@microsoft.com...

> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a final

> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

>

>

Guest nass

Guest nass

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RE: Windows XP SP# Final?

 

 

 

"cwknute" wrote:

> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a final

> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

 

 

No, this SP3 still in Beta, but Beta2 ;), Microsoft will say if it is The

Final Release and it will be offered with monthly Updates you receive from

them.

HTH.

nass

---

http://www.nasstec.co.uk

Guest Alias

Guest Alias

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nass wrote:

>

> "cwknute" wrote:

>

>> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a final

>> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

>>

>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

>

>

> No, this SP3 still in Beta, but Beta2 ;), Microsoft will say if it is The

> Final Release and it will be offered with monthly Updates you receive from

> them.

> HTH.

> nass

> ---

> http://www.nasstec.co.uk

 

As I understand that WGA/N will secretly be included in SP3, I would

recommend waiting before installing to see what happens to others who

just gotta have the "latest and greatest".

 

Alias

Guest VanguardLH

Guest VanguardLH

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Re: Windows XP SP# Final?

 

"cwknute" wrote in message

news:BBB79271-7769-4B91-9724-27AD2FAC2504@microsoft.com...

> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a

> final

> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

>

>

 

Release Candidate

Preview Edition/Version

Pre-release version

.... and so on, all to hide that a version is "beta" (because "beta"

has a negative connotation that authors want to hide under euphemistic

names).

 

SP3 has not yet been released. After the release of a service pack,

there are more hotfixes and updates to fix problems that the new code

introduced. The end of mainstream support for Windows XP Pro (x86) is

4/14/2009. It is highly unlikely that Microsoft will have sufficient

time after the release of SP-3 and the updates to fix those new

problems to then get out another service pack before mainstream

support dies.

 

SP-2 came out sometime in 2005. SP-3 is expected sometime in 2008.

You do the math. Do YOU think Microsoft will have time to come out

with another service pack?

Guest nass

Guest nass

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"Alias" wrote:

> nass wrote:

> >

> > "cwknute" wrote:

> >

> >> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a final

> >> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

> >>

> >> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

> >

> >

> > No, this SP3 still in Beta, but Beta2 ;), Microsoft will say if it is The

> > Final Release and it will be offered with monthly Updates you receive from

> > them.

> > HTH.

> > nass

> > ---

> > http://www.nasstec.co.uk

>

> As I understand that WGA/N will secretly be included in SP3, I would

> recommend waiting before installing to see what happens to others who

> just gotta have the "latest and greatest".

>

> Alias

 

Hi Alias,

They already mentioned it in the bottom of the Page, if you don't have

ACTIVATED version of windows the SP3 will not install ;).

HTH.

nass

----

http://www.nasstec.co.uk

Guest Ken Blake, MVP

Guest Ken Blake, MVP

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Re: Windows XP SP# Final?

 

On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:43:00 -0700, cwknute

<cwknute@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a final

> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

 

 

 

SP3 has *not* yet been released, either at this web site or anywhere

else. Anything you find is a pre-release test version.

 

 

--

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

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Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]

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No.

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

cwknute wrote:

> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a final

> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

>

> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]

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VanguardLH wrote:

<snip>

> SP-2 came out sometime in 2005.

 

Late August 2004, actually.

--

~PA Bear

Guest Alias

Guest Alias

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nass wrote:

>

> "Alias" wrote:

>

>> nass wrote:

>>> "cwknute" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Is the XP SP3 update that is being offerd now at this website a final

>>>> edition? I mean is it a beta form or the finished edition.

>>>>

>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=114F3599-12AF-42B2-AAB1-B969A62C68A7&displaylang=en

>>>

>>> No, this SP3 still in Beta, but Beta2 ;), Microsoft will say if it is The

>>> Final Release and it will be offered with monthly Updates you receive from

>>> them.

>>> HTH.

>>> nass

>>> ---

>>> http://www.nasstec.co.uk

>> As I understand that WGA/N will secretly be included in SP3, I would

>> recommend waiting before installing to see what happens to others who

>> just gotta have the "latest and greatest".

>>

>> Alias

>

> Hi Alias,

> They already mentioned it in the bottom of the Page, if you don't have

> ACTIVATED version of windows the SP3 will not install ;).

> HTH.

> nass

> ----

> http://www.nasstec.co.uk

 

Not relevant. You do know the difference between WPA and WGA (in all its

flavors), don't you?

 

Alias

Guest VanguardLH

Guest VanguardLH

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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> VanguardLH wrote:

> <snip>

>> SP-2 came out sometime in 2005.

>

> Late August 2004, actually.

 

 

Uffda. Even longer between service packs. I just checked and my SP-2

download is dated 11-11-2004. Looks like I took my own advice back

then and didn't install the service pack until many months after its

release so I could keep my hosting usable until all the hotfixes and

updates came out to correct problems introduced with SP-2.

Guest PD43

Guest PD43

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"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>>> SP-2 came out sometime in 2005.

>>

>> Late August 2004, actually.

>

>

>Uffda. Even longer between service packs. I just checked and my SP-2

>download is dated 11-11-2004. Looks like I took my own advice back

>then and didn't install the service pack until many months after its

>release so I could keep my hosting usable until all the hotfixes and

>updates came out to correct problems introduced with SP-2.

 

With regular system backups, you could've downloaded the update when

it was first released - without worrying <seg>

Guest VanguardLH

Guest VanguardLH

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"PD43" wrote in message

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> "VanguardLH" wrote:

>

>>>> SP-2 came out sometime in 2005.

>>>

>>> Late August 2004, actually.

>>

>>

>>Uffda. Even longer between service packs. I just checked and my

>>SP-2

>>download is dated 11-11-2004. Looks like I took my own advice back

>>then and didn't install the service pack until many months after its

>>release so I could keep my hosting usable until all the hotfixes and

>>updates came out to correct problems introduced with SP-2.

>

> With regular system backups, you could've downloaded the update when

> it was first released - without worrying <seg>

 

 

The only way to 100% revert out of a service pack is to restore using

a snapshot (i.e., image). Why would I want to waste time reverting to

a snapshot and then have to figure out from my backups which files to

retrieve that were modified after that install date to get back all my

configuration changes, tweaking, data files, etc. for a NON-CRITICAL

service pack. I have yet to see a single service pack since PCs

showed up in 1982 (well, IBM PCs, that is) that I had to have the

moment it became available. Yep, the marketers have done well to

brainwash you in their mantra of "newer is better, newer is

mandatory". Oh look, a shiny new hammer, so I'll toss the old one

although it works ... and has PROVEN to work and will CONTINUE to

work.

Guest PD43

Guest PD43

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"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>>>Uffda. Even longer between service packs. I just checked and my

>>>SP-2

>>>download is dated 11-11-2004. Looks like I took my own advice back

>>>then and didn't install the service pack until many months after its

>>>release so I could keep my hosting usable until all the hotfixes and

>>>updates came out to correct problems introduced with SP-2.

>>

>> With regular system backups, you could've downloaded the update when

>> it was first released - without worrying <seg>

>

>

>The only way to 100% revert out of a service pack is to restore using

>a snapshot (i.e., image).

 

DUH! I think I said that.

>Why would I want to waste time reverting to

>a snapshot and then have to figure out from my backups which files to

>retrieve that were modified after that install date to get back all my

>configuration changes, tweaking, data files, etc. for a NON-CRITICAL

>service pack.

 

Backup dated yesterday, updates today... system croaks.

 

RESTORE FROM YESTERDAY

 

ANOTHER DUH!!

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