custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registryfix it?

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"SlickRCBD" <spamyourself@127.0.0.1> wrote in message

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| I had just changed my screen resolution on my older win98 computer

| before starting a movie to play it full screen without slowdowns when

| the computer promptly crashed by locking up on the BSOD. After hitting

| the reset button, when the computer booted up again, the screen

| resolution was far lower than I thought possible. It was at least as low

| as 320x240, if not lower. It looked like magnifier was in use, except

| that the whole screen was repesented in this reduced space. With some

| difficulity because the option I needed was off the screen, I was able

| to adjust the display settings to fix things, but this messed up the

| custom order of my desktop icons to a seemingly random order. I've spent

| a lot of time optimizing them. It has persisted after a reboot. Would

| restoring one of the automatic registry backups fix this? I haven't done

| anything that would make any significant changes to the registry in at

| least a month (aside from this problem), and figuring I turn the

| computer off every night, restoring the registry shouldn't hurt

| anything, or so I hope.

 

SHORT ANSWER:

 

NO, this likely will not restore your previous ICON placement. I would

suggest you get one of the tools that save Desktop placement such as

WinTidy.

 

Explained:

 

Windows saves the desktop settings {registry, etc.} [resolution, frequency,

and placement] upon shutdown, or when the settings are changed by you, or

some application or program [temporarily]. The last setting saved was

whatever that resolution and placement was EVEN IF OFF SCREEN [like a

virtual desktop in space].

A bad shutdown, generally leaves the desktop garbled, e.g., with nothing at

what you had originally. This then becomes the new default desktop settings.

A program like WinTidy will replace the ICON placement after you reset the

screen size and resolution.

 

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[Guest SlickRCBD]

custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registryfix it?

 

I had just changed my screen resolution on my older win98 computer

before starting a movie to play it full screen without slowdowns when

the computer promptly crashed by locking up on the BSOD. After hitting

the reset button, when the computer booted up again, the screen

resolution was far lower than I thought possible. It was at least as low

as 320x240, if not lower. It looked like magnifier was in use, except

that the whole screen was repesented in this reduced space. With some

difficulity because the option I needed was off the screen, I was able

to adjust the display settings to fix things, but this messed up the

custom order of my desktop icons to a seemingly random order. I've spent

a lot of time optimizing them. It has persisted after a reboot. Would

restoring one of the automatic registry backups fix this? I haven't done

anything that would make any significant changes to the registry in at

least a month (aside from this problem), and figuring I turn the

computer off every night, restoring the registry shouldn't hurt

anything, or so I hope.

[Guest MEB]

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

 

 

"SlickRCBD" <spamyourself@127.0.0.1> wrote in message

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| MEB wrote:

| >

| > SHORT ANSWER:

| >

| > NO, this likely will not restore your previous ICON placement. I would

| > suggest you get one of the tools that save Desktop placement such as

| > WinTidy.

| >

| > Explained:

| >

| > Windows saves the desktop settings {registry, etc.} [resolution,

frequency,

| > and placement] upon shutdown, or when the settings are changed by you,

or

| > some application or program [temporarily]. The last setting saved was

| > whatever that resolution and placement was EVEN IF OFF SCREEN [like a

| > virtual desktop in space].

| > A bad shutdown, generally leaves the desktop garbled, e.g., with

nothing at

| > what you had originally. This then becomes the new default desktop

settings.

| > A program like WinTidy will replace the ICON placement after you reset

the

| > screen size and resolution.

| >

| Actually, it did work. I just restored the oldest of the 5 backups and

| everything was back where it was.

| Remember, there are 5 registry backup files, and I assumed that #3 would

| be the FUBAR screen rez, #2 would be last night's restart when I fixed

| things, and #1 would be after I shut down just a few minutes ago. The

| dates given on the backups disagreed with my theory (they each had a

| different day going back to Tuesday), but I restored the oldest just to

| be safe. It's not like I've added any programs or changed any settings

| recently except for that little FUBAR that forced me, so I figured it

| didn't matter if I used #4 or #5.

 

Okay, I stand corrected in this case.. thanks for posting the resolution.

 

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[Guest SlickRCBD]

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registryfix it?

 

MEB wrote:

>

> SHORT ANSWER:

>

> NO, this likely will not restore your previous ICON placement. I would

> suggest you get one of the tools that save Desktop placement such as

> WinTidy.

>

> Explained:

>

> Windows saves the desktop settings {registry, etc.} [resolution, frequency,

> and placement] upon shutdown, or when the settings are changed by you, or

> some application or program [temporarily]. The last setting saved was

> whatever that resolution and placement was EVEN IF OFF SCREEN [like a

> virtual desktop in space].

> A bad shutdown, generally leaves the desktop garbled, e.g., with nothing at

> what you had originally. This then becomes the new default desktop settings.

> A program like WinTidy will replace the ICON placement after you reset the

> screen size and resolution.

>

Actually, it did work. I just restored the oldest of the 5 backups and

everything was back where it was.

Remember, there are 5 registry backup files, and I assumed that #3 would

be the FUBAR screen rez, #2 would be last night's restart when I fixed

things, and #1 would be after I shut down just a few minutes ago. The

dates given on the backups disagreed with my theory (they each had a

different day going back to Tuesday), but I restored the oldest just to

be safe. It's not like I've added any programs or changed any settings

recently except for that little FUBAR that forced me, so I figured it

didn't matter if I used #4 or #5.

[Guest Tawny Port]

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

> Okay, I stand corrected in this case.. thanks for posting the resolution.

>

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>

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> _________

 

 

hi meb,,,, love your blog links.

 

since the o/p was talking about 'rb' backup/restore situations, i have a poser that i was hoping you

could assist with, as i have lost any trace of that function;; let me explain.

if i go to 'msconfig', the option of haveing the reg backup done, simply isnt there any more, and i

am buggered if i know what happened to it or how to make it good again.

i did a simulated test as if i was going to restore from any given point, and the last one i have is

about a year or so ago...... any ideas?

[Guest Buffalo]

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

SlickRCBD wrote:

> MEB wrote:

>>

>> SHORT ANSWER:

>>

>> NO, this likely will not restore your previous ICON placement. I

>> would suggest you get one of the tools that save Desktop placement

>> such as WinTidy.

>>

>> Explained:

>>

>> Windows saves the desktop settings {registry, etc.} [resolution,

>> frequency, and placement] upon shutdown, or when the settings are

>> changed by you, or some application or program [temporarily]. The

>> last setting saved was whatever that resolution and placement was

>> EVEN IF OFF SCREEN [like a virtual desktop in space].

>> A bad shutdown, generally leaves the desktop garbled, e.g., with

>> nothing at what you had originally. This then becomes the new

>> default desktop settings. A program like WinTidy will replace the

>> ICON placement after you reset the screen size and resolution.

>>

> Actually, it did work. I just restored the oldest of the 5 backups and

> everything was back where it was.

> Remember, there are 5 registry backup files, and I assumed that #3

> would be the FUBAR screen rez, #2 would be last night's restart when

> I fixed things, and #1 would be after I shut down just a few minutes

> ago. The dates given on the backups disagreed with my theory (they

> each had a different day going back to Tuesday), but I restored the

> oldest just to be safe. It's not like I've added any programs or

> changed any settings recently except for that little FUBAR that

> forced me, so I figured it didn't matter if I used #4 or #5.

 

Yes, I have done the same thing before, only I choose the newest one that

still had the icons correct when I booted that day.

Certain programs, such as some mentioned earlier, will save the icon

placement and are less hassle to use than restoring the Registry.

Happy to hear it worked for you also.

[Guest MEB]

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

 

"Tawny Port" <tawn@vatnearyou> wrote in message

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| > Okay, I stand corrected in this case.. thanks for posting the

resolution.

| >

| > --

| >

| > MEB

| > http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > _________

|

|

| hi meb,,,, love your blog links.

|

| since the o/p was talking about 'rb' backup/restore situations, i have a

poser that i was hoping you

| could assist with, as i have lost any trace of that function;; let me

explain.

| if i go to 'msconfig', the option of haveing the reg backup done, simply

isnt there any more, and i

| am buggered if i know what happened to it or how to make it good again.

| i did a simulated test as if i was going to restore from any given point,

and the last one i have is

| about a year or so ago...... any ideas?

|

 

What version of MSINFO are you using?

 

Are you set at Normal Startup in MSCONFIG?

 

IF you are set to Diagnostic or Selective, then you may have disabled the

backup. Did you check in the Startup Tab to see if you disabled -

ScanRegistry - C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun : which provides both the

bad shutdown/corrupted registry scan and backup once a day when rebooted?

 

Several "tweak" programs may disable certain functions, such as the ability

to modify various settings or control panel items. Even to the point of

removing the buttons or ability of those buttons. Do you have anything like

that installed?

 

Did you or someone else, perhaps, modify the computer's policies?

How about ActiveX entries in the registry [or manually modified or added

ActiveX controls]?

{Hmm, seems I remember this associated with an old Microsoft update that

kill this, anyone remember that issue?}

 

There are several other potential issues, including registry

modification/fixes, but please first answer these questions so the group can

better help you.

What's this key show?

___________

REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSInfo\Tools\ScanReg]

@="Registry Checker"

"command"="scanregw.exe"

"description"="Runs the Windows Registry Checker"

 

___________

 

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[Guest Tawny Port]

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

> | hi meb,,,, love your blog links.

> |

> | since the o/p was talking about 'rb' backup/restore situations, i have a

> poser that i was hoping you

> | could assist with, as i have lost any trace of that function;; let me

> explain.

> | if i go to 'msconfig', the option of haveing the reg backup done, simply

> isnt there any more, and i

> | am buggered if i know what happened to it or how to make it good again.

> | i did a simulated test as if i was going to restore from any given point,

> and the last one i have is

> | about a year or so ago...... any ideas?

> |

>

> What version of MSINFO are you using?

 

version of 'msinfo'?? o/s is 98se.

>

> Are you set at Normal Startup in MSCONFIG?

>

> IF you are set to Diagnostic or Selective, then you may have disabled the

> backup. Did you check in the Startup Tab to see if you disabled -

> ScanRegistry - C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun : which provides both the

> bad shutdown/corrupted registry scan and backup once a day when rebooted?

 

am set to selective, but havent disabled backup. in startup tab, there is no option to

enable or disable, as scanregw.exe/autorun isnt there anymore,, (if that was what used to

be in msconfig,,, has been so long since i have seen it there i am not sure if it is logged

as scanregw.exe /autorun,, in other words, i've forgotton because it has been so long.

 

>

> Several "tweak" programs may disable certain functions, such as the ability

> to modify various settings or control panel items. Even to the point of

> removing the buttons or ability of those buttons. Do you have anything like

> that installed?

 

only tweak ui,, but that has been here since day 1.

>

> Did you or someone else, perhaps, modify the computer's policies?

> How about ActiveX entries in the registry [or manually modified or added

> ActiveX controls]?

> {Hmm, seems I remember this associated with an old Microsoft update that

> kill this, anyone remember that issue?}

 

no, no issues like that.

>

> There are several other potential issues, including registry

> modification/fixes, but please first answer these questions so the group can

> better help you.

> What's this key show?

> ___________

> REGEDIT4

>

> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shared Tools\MSInfo\Tools\ScanReg]

> @="Registry Checker"

> "command"="scanregw.exe"

> "description"="Runs the Windows Registry Checker"

 

yes,,,,,, exactly like that,,,,, is nested damn deep too.

 

this happened quite a while back meb,,, and it may (may) have something to do with something

that 'spybot' told me was a problem and should be removed,,,,, to whit i would have said 'okay'.

but even then, i am guessing,,,, but sure would be happy if i could get this sorted.

 

>

> ___________

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

>

>

[Guest MEB]

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"Tawny Port" <tawn@vatnearyou> wrote in message

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|

| > | hi meb,,,, love your blog links.

| > |

| > | since the o/p was talking about 'rb' backup/restore situations, i have

a

| > poser that i was hoping you

| > | could assist with, as i have lost any trace of that function;; let

me

| > explain.

| > | if i go to 'msconfig', the option of haveing the reg backup done,

simply

| > isnt there any more, and i

| > | am buggered if i know what happened to it or how to make it good

again.

| > | i did a simulated test as if i was going to restore from any given

point,

| > and the last one i have is

| > | about a year or so ago...... any ideas?

| > |

| >

| > What version of MSINFO are you using?

|

| version of 'msinfo'?? o/s is 98se.

| >

| > Are you set at Normal Startup in MSCONFIG?

| >

| > IF you are set to Diagnostic or Selective, then you may have disabled

the

| > backup. Did you check in the Startup Tab to see if you disabled -

| > ScanRegistry - C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun : which provides both

the

| > bad shutdown/corrupted registry scan and backup once a day when

rebooted?

|

| am set to selective, but havent disabled backup. in startup tab,

there is no option to

| enable or disable, as scanregw.exe/autorun isnt there anymore,, (if that

was what used to

| be in msconfig,,, has been so long since i have seen it there i am not

sure if it is logged

| as scanregw.exe /autorun,, in other words, i've forgotton because it has

been so long.

|

|

| >

| > Several "tweak" programs may disable certain functions, such as the

ability

| > to modify various settings or control panel items. Even to the point of

| > removing the buttons or ability of those buttons. Do you have anything

like

| > that installed?

|

| only tweak ui,, but that has been here since day 1.

 

Stopped using that years ago due to issues related to its use, such as when

a registry gets corrupted and rebuilt, some of TweakUI's settings may become

permanent, without the ability to change them through the application/cpl.

 

| >

| > Did you or someone else, perhaps, modify the computer's policies?

| > How about ActiveX entries in the registry [or manually modified or

added

| > ActiveX controls]?

| > {Hmm, seems I remember this associated with an old Microsoft update that

| > kill this, anyone remember that issue?}

|

| no, no issues like that.

|

| >

| > There are several other potential issues, including registry

| > modification/fixes, but please first answer these questions so the group

can

| > better help you.

| > What's this key show?

| > ___________

| > REGEDIT4

| >

| > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shared

Tools\MSInfo\Tools\ScanReg]

| > @="Registry Checker"

| > "command"="scanregw.exe"

| > "description"="Runs the Windows Registry Checker"

|

| yes,,,,,, exactly like that,,,,, is nested damn

deep too.

|

| this happened quite a while back meb,,, and it may (may) have something to

do with something

| that 'spybot' told me was a problem and should be removed,,,,, to whit i

would have said 'okay'.

| but even then, i am guessing,,,, but sure would be happy if i could get

this sorted.

|

|

| >

| > ___________

| >

| > --

| > MEB

 

1. Search your disk for scanregw.exe, it should be found in

{drive}:\{Windows - whatever}.

 

2. Search the registry for - scanregw.exe /autorun - using regedit or your

favorite reg-editor. If not found use the below to re-add it to the

registry.

 

3. Copy below to text only editor like notepad, including the blank line.

-----

REGEDIT4

 

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]

"ScanRegistry"="C:\\WINDOWS\\scanregw.exe /autorun"

 

----

Name this scanauto.reg and run/merge or manually add into the registry if

scanregw was not found in the above key,

 

4. Check this key also

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\AutorunsDi

sabled]

 

5. Also check the registry for any * -run * entries, though likely you may

have chosen to delete the Key. You might check to see if you backed it up

before deletion.

 

This will add the key back into the registry which will make the backups

when the system is shutdown/restarted once a day or whenever done [and

auto-scanning for a good registry at every startup].

 

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http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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[Guest Bill in Co.]

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

Re: custom order of Desktop icons messed up, would restoring registry fix it?

 

I'm pretty sure it will - yes.