Guest john Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any clients both with name and IP. Please help.
Guest Augusto Alvarez Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen What do you mean exactly when the clients cant see the server? You are trying to access using RDP? Share folders? In any case, if the clients can ping the servers there's nothing wrong with the network connectivity, the ICMP requests are getting to destination and so are the responses. There are any firewalls in the middle? Cheers -- augusto alvarez | it pro | southworks http://staff.southworks.net/aalvarez "john" <johnbahran@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:4bfddc38-ea67-4201-8b61-2bdbdc34cd97@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > clients both with name and IP. > Please help.
Guest john Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen On Mar 16, 10:27 am, "Augusto Alvarez" <augusto.alvare...@gmail.com> wrote: > What do you mean exactly when the clients cant see the server? You are > trying to access using RDP? Share folders? > > In any case, if the clients can ping the servers there's nothing wrong with > the network connectivity, the ICMP requests are getting to destination and > so are the responses. There are any firewalls in the middle? > > Cheers > > -- > augusto alvarez | it pro | southworkshttp://staff.southworks.net/aalvarez > > "john" <johnbah...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:4bfddc38-ea67-4201-8b61-2bdbdc34cd97@n75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > >I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > clients both with name and IP. > > Please help. When I go to Windows Explorer, the server is not shown.
Guest Kjell THorgersen Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 RE: Server can't be seen Hi, I had a similar problem after installing KB948496. After a lot of troubleshooting I removed the Hot fix and everything was normal again. I am running Windows 2003 on HP Proliant DL380 G5 servers. -- Best regards Kjell Thorgersen "john" wrote: > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > clients both with name and IP. > Please help. >
Guest lforbes Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 RE: Server can't be seen I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't the master browser. You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from logging in to mapping drives. I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser list stays current and my server stays the master browser. Cheers, Lara "john" wrote: > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > clients both with name and IP. > Please help. >
Guest john Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > the master browser. > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > logging in to mapping drives. > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > Cheers, > Lara > > "john" wrote: > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > clients both with name and IP. > > Please help. It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot.
Guest lforbes Posted March 17, 2008 Posted March 17, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen Glad to help. It is amazing how WINS is required because we still rely heavily on NetBios for our mapping and browsing. Cheers, Lara "john" wrote: > On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > > the master browser. > > > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > > logging in to mapping drives. > > > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > > > Cheers, > > Lara > > > > "john" wrote: > > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > > clients both with name and IP. > > > Please help. > > It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot. >
Guest Thomas T Posted March 18, 2008 Posted March 18, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen I wrote that post "KB948496, 2003 x64 server stops net functions" and I must say that my server with lost net functions has WINS installed. So there ist no need to think that KB948496 works on x64 machines. But I am astonished about this problem having no bigger pubic interest. T. "lforbes" wrote: > Glad to help. It is amazing how WINS is required because we still rely > heavily on NetBios for our mapping and browsing. > > Cheers, > Lara > > "john" wrote: > > > On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > > > > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > > > > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > > > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > > > the master browser. > > > > > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > > > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > > > logging in to mapping drives. > > > > > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > > > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > > > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Lara > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > > > clients both with name and IP. > > > > Please help. > > > > It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot. > >
Guest lforbes Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen Hi, Losing net functions is different than browsing issues. A server is still fully functional without browsing being enabled. However, you just can't browse the network. Do you still have an issue? What OS are you running? Cheers, Lara "Thomas T" wrote: > I wrote that post "KB948496, 2003 x64 server stops net functions" and I must > say that my server with lost net functions has WINS installed. So there ist > no need to think that KB948496 works on x64 machines. But I am astonished > about this problem having no bigger pubic interest. > > T. > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > Glad to help. It is amazing how WINS is required because we still rely > > heavily on NetBios for our mapping and browsing. > > > > Cheers, > > Lara > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > > > > > > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > > > > > > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > > > > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > > > > the master browser. > > > > > > > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > > > > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > > > > logging in to mapping drives. > > > > > > > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > > > > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > > > > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > > > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > > > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > > > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > > > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > > > > clients both with name and IP. > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot. > > >
Guest Thomas T Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen Yes, the issue is still unsolved but in the meantime I found that it goes down to a specific nic (NC373i) and its faulty driver in some newer HP servers. There exists an older thread in HP business support forums where my situation is described: http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1205996976194+28353475&threadId=1153566 Regards Thomas "lforbes" wrote: > Hi, > > Losing net functions is different than browsing issues. A server is still > fully functional without browsing being enabled. However, you just can't > browse the network. > > Do you still have an issue? What OS are you running? > > Cheers, > Lara > > "Thomas T" wrote: > > > I wrote that post "KB948496, 2003 x64 server stops net functions" and I must > > say that my server with lost net functions has WINS installed. So there ist > > no need to think that KB948496 works on x64 machines. But I am astonished > > about this problem having no bigger pubic interest. > > > > T. > > > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > > > Glad to help. It is amazing how WINS is required because we still rely > > > heavily on NetBios for our mapping and browsing. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Lara > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > > > > > > > > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > > > > > > > > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > > > > > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > > > > > the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > > > > > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > > > > > logging in to mapping drives. > > > > > > > > > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > > > > > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > > > > > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > > > > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > > > > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > > > > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > > > > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > > > > > clients both with name and IP. > > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > > > It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot. > > > >
Guest lforbes Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen Hi, You do know that this is a Service Pack 2 Issue don't you? We had this same problem and we have Dell Servers. Disabling RSS didn't work but the patch did. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936594 http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=50A878A3-EC91-40FC-BA6F-BB5C9982AED8&displaylang=en Cheers, Lara "Thomas T" wrote: > Yes, the issue is still unsolved but in the meantime I found that it goes > down to a specific nic (NC373i) and its faulty driver in some newer HP > servers. There exists an older thread in HP business support forums where my > situation is described: > http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1205996976194+28353475&threadId=1153566 > > Regards > Thomas > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Losing net functions is different than browsing issues. A server is still > > fully functional without browsing being enabled. However, you just can't > > browse the network. > > > > Do you still have an issue? What OS are you running? > > > > Cheers, > > Lara > > > > "Thomas T" wrote: > > > > > I wrote that post "KB948496, 2003 x64 server stops net functions" and I must > > > say that my server with lost net functions has WINS installed. So there ist > > > no need to think that KB948496 works on x64 machines. But I am astonished > > > about this problem having no bigger pubic interest. > > > > > > T. > > > > > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > > > > > Glad to help. It is amazing how WINS is required because we still rely > > > > heavily on NetBios for our mapping and browsing. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > > > > > > > > > > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > > > > > > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > > > > > > the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > > > > > > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > > > > > > logging in to mapping drives. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > > > > > > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > > > > > > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > > > > > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > > > > > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > > > > > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > > > > > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > > > > > > clients both with name and IP. > > > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot. > > > > >
Guest Thomas T Posted March 20, 2008 Posted March 20, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen Hi Lara, this is the first time that I hear about such a patch. I really thought that this driver is guilty. Are you sure about this patch is solving the problem? Regards Thomas "lforbes" wrote: > Hi, > > You do know that this is a Service Pack 2 Issue don't you? We had this same > problem and we have Dell Servers. > > Disabling RSS didn't work but the patch did. > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936594 > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=50A878A3-EC91-40FC-BA6F-BB5C9982AED8&displaylang=en > > Cheers, > Lara > > "Thomas T" wrote: > > > Yes, the issue is still unsolved but in the meantime I found that it goes > > down to a specific nic (NC373i) and its faulty driver in some newer HP > > servers. There exists an older thread in HP business support forums where my > > situation is described: > > http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1205996976194+28353475&threadId=1153566 > > > > Regards > > Thomas > > > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Losing net functions is different than browsing issues. A server is still > > > fully functional without browsing being enabled. However, you just can't > > > browse the network. > > > > > > Do you still have an issue? What OS are you running? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Lara > > > > > > "Thomas T" wrote: > > > > > > > I wrote that post "KB948496, 2003 x64 server stops net functions" and I must > > > > say that my server with lost net functions has WINS installed. So there ist > > > > no need to think that KB948496 works on x64 machines. But I am astonished > > > > about this problem having no bigger pubic interest. > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Glad to help. It is amazing how WINS is required because we still rely > > > > > heavily on NetBios for our mapping and browsing. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > > > > > > > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > > > > > > > the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > > > > > > > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > > > > > > > logging in to mapping drives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > > > > > > > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > > > > > > > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > > > > > > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > > > > > > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > > > > > > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > > > > > > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > > > > > > > clients both with name and IP. > > > > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > > It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot. > > > > > >
Guest lforbes Posted March 21, 2008 Posted March 21, 2008 Re: Server can't be seen Hi, Service Pack 2 KILLED my network connectivity in both my ISA server and my 2 DC's. The file server "seemed" Ok but as people couldn't connect they never got to access it. All I did was install SP2 and then 3 days later all the problems started. This patch fixed the issue. I did both the manual registry settings and then applied the patch to all my servers. My problems were as described in the two links I posted. Now I didn't realize it was SP2 until AFTER I reformated and reinstalled my ISA server. It started acting up first so I did that and then down went main DC1 and so I started doing KB searches for SP2 and came up with that. SP2 also killed my backup and my shadow copy services and the patch fixed those too. Definitely worth applying. Cheers, Lara "Thomas T" wrote: > Hi Lara, > > this is the first time that I hear about such a patch. I really thought that > this driver is guilty. Are you sure about this patch is solving the problem? > > Regards > Thomas > > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > You do know that this is a Service Pack 2 Issue don't you? We had this same > > problem and we have Dell Servers. > > > > Disabling RSS didn't work but the patch did. > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/936594 > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=50A878A3-EC91-40FC-BA6F-BB5C9982AED8&displaylang=en > > > > Cheers, > > Lara > > > > "Thomas T" wrote: > > > > > Yes, the issue is still unsolved but in the meantime I found that it goes > > > down to a specific nic (NC373i) and its faulty driver in some newer HP > > > servers. There exists an older thread in HP business support forums where my > > > situation is described: > > > http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1205996976194+28353475&threadId=1153566 > > > > > > Regards > > > Thomas > > > > > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Losing net functions is different than browsing issues. A server is still > > > > fully functional without browsing being enabled. However, you just can't > > > > browse the network. > > > > > > > > Do you still have an issue? What OS are you running? > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > "Thomas T" wrote: > > > > > > > > > I wrote that post "KB948496, 2003 x64 server stops net functions" and I must > > > > > say that my server with lost net functions has WINS installed. So there ist > > > > > no need to think that KB948496 works on x64 machines. But I am astonished > > > > > about this problem having no bigger pubic interest. > > > > > > > > > > T. > > > > > > > > > > "lforbes" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Glad to help. It is amazing how WINS is required because we still rely > > > > > > heavily on NetBios for our mapping and browsing. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 16, 1:28 pm, lforbes <lfor...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am assuming you are talking about My Network Places? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you map to the server from the clients \\server\share? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If so I wouldn't worry about it. The accounts listed in My Network Places > > > > > > > > are often missing. It is probably because the server browser services isn't > > > > > > > > the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can install WINS. I find I need it even with an entire Windows 2003/XP > > > > > > > > domain simply because we still use Netbios for pretty much everything from > > > > > > > > logging in to mapping drives. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have also disabled the computer browser service in Group Policy for every > > > > > > > > computer except my server and backup server. That ensures that the browser > > > > > > > > list stays current and my server stays the master browser. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Lara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "john" wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have a small network running 2k3. The problem I have is that , all > > > > > > > > > the clients can see each other and even server can see the clients. > > > > > > > > > However, server can't be seen by none of the clients. In exploring the > > > > > > > > > domain, only the clients are shown. Even exploring the domain on the > > > > > > > > > server, only the clients are shown. I can ping the server from any > > > > > > > > > clients both with name and IP. > > > > > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It worked. I installed WINS and it worked immediately.Thanks a lot. > > > > > > >
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