Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

[Guest Al Dykes]

I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

SP2.

 

I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

 

I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

 

It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

 

Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Al Dykes

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[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

 

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

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>

> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

> SP2.

>

> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

>

> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

>

> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

>

> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

 

I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery

disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with

your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another

disk?

 

You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an

OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create

a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.

 

I would never run a system without having a Windows

installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.

If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do

so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.

[Guest Al Dykes]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

In article <O6joZmTiIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

Pegasus \(MVP\) <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>

>"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

>news:frp8ac$miv$1@panix5.panix.com...

>>

>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

>> SP2.

>>

>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

>>

>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

>>

>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

>>

>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

>

>I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery

>disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with

>your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another

>disk?

>

>You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an

>OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create

>a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.

>

>I would never run a system without having a Windows

>installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.

>If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do

>so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.

 

 

I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it

as-is, without a distro CD.

 

To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file

system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I

have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.

 

 

 

 

 

--

Al Dykes

News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.

- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

Just copy the cd with any burning software. You can also make a

slipstreamed cd using your OEM cd and the SP2 for IT Professionals download

with a program like nLite.

 

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

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> In article <O6joZmTiIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> Pegasus \(MVP\) <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>>

>>"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

>>news:frp8ac$miv$1@panix5.panix.com...

>>>

>>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

>>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

>>> SP2.

>>>

>>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

>>>

>>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

>>>

>>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

>>>

>>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

>>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

>>

>>I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery

>>disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with

>>your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another

>>disk?

>>

>>You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an

>>OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create

>>a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.

>>

>>I would never run a system without having a Windows

>>installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.

>>If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do

>>so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.

>

>

> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it

> as-is, without a distro CD.

>

> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file

> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I

> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Al Dykes

> News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is

> advertising.

> - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

>

[Guest sgopus]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

it won't work, your recovery depends on enering an install key, OEM keys are

different from Retail keys, if you tried to use your OEM key it would tell

you the install key is invalid.

 

You would be better off, if you purchased an image program and also an

external HD to make a clone of your system, and update the clone from time to

time.

 

"Al Dykes" wrote:

> In article <O6joZmTiIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> Pegasus \(MVP\) <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

> >

> >"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

> >news:frp8ac$miv$1@panix5.panix.com...

> >>

> >> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

> >> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

> >> SP2.

> >>

> >> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

> >>

> >> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

> >>

> >> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

> >>

> >> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

> >> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

> >

> >I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery

> >disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with

> >your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another

> >disk?

> >

> >You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an

> >OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create

> >a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.

> >

> >I would never run a system without having a Windows

> >installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.

> >If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do

> >so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.

>

>

> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it

> as-is, without a distro CD.

>

> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file

> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I

> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Al Dykes

> News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.

> - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

 

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

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> In article <O6joZmTiIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> Pegasus \(MVP\) <I.can@fly.com.oz> wrote:

>>

>>"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

>>news:frp8ac$miv$1@panix5.panix.com...

>>>

>>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

>>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

>>> SP2.

>>>

>>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

>>>

>>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

>>>

>>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

>>>

>>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

>>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

>>

>>I'm not sure what you mean with "I want to make a recovery

>>disk. with BartPE." Do you intend to boot the machine with

>>your Bart PE CD, then copy the system partition to another

>>disk?

>>

>>You go on to ask "It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an

>>OEM, SP1 upgraded system?" Legit to do what? Create

>>a Bart PE CD? Yes, it is.

>>

>>I would never run a system without having a Windows

>>installation CD. To me a recovery CD or partition is insufficient.

>>If you have a loan of such a CD, take a copy. You can do

>>so legally - the protected part is in the 25-character product key.

>

>

> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it

> as-is, without a distro CD.

>

> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file

> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I

> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.

 

You can use xcopy.exe to copy the WinXP installation CD

to a hard disk although I don't see the point of this method.

I would prefer to have a bootable installation CD.

 

Before relying on being able to install WinXP under a Bart

PE boot, you should test this method. I did and I failed - the

installation process keeps running round in circles without

getting anywhere.

[Guest Malke]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

Al Dykes wrote:

>>> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

>>> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

>>> SP2.

>>>

>>> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

>>>

>>> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

>>>

>>> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

>>>

>>> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

>>> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

> I agree, but it's an otherwise fine machine and I had to take it

> as-is, without a distro CD.

>

> To copy a Microsoft Distro XP, is a simple "XCOPY /s" of the file

> system OK or do I have to use CD cloning software to make a copy? If I

> have a Bart CD, teh file system Cd doesn;t have to be bootable.

 

There are actually two issues here, neither of which has anything to do with

the other.

 

1. Having a real operating system install disk instead of a restore disk

 

Your legal right to run Windows is the Product Key. If there is a COA

sticker on the computer case, that's your Product Key. You will need an XP

Pro generic OEM disk to use it. There is absolutely no problem whatsoever

borrowing an XP Pro OEM disk and copying it. Make sure you get all drivers

and laptop-specific software from the laptop mftr.'s website and burn them

to CD-R for later.

 

You simply need burning software that will copy a CD. If you don't have

Roxio or Nero, there are many free programs that will do it. IIRC

CDBurnerXP Pro will copy a CD but if it doesn't, here are some other links

that will help you find one:

 

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ - CDBurnerXP Pro

http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/dvdcdburning.shtml

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/

http://www.cdfreaks.com/software/

 

2. Bart's PE

 

Bart's PE disks are most often used in data rescue and other repair work

such as virus/malware scanning from outside the operating system, etc., not

to reinstall Windows. You can't reinstall Windows with a Bart's PE and

that's why it is legal to make one. You can use either the borrowed XP Pro

OEM or any other borrowed XP CD to create a Bart's PE. Here is a link to

the Bart's site; IIRC there are very active user forums/links which will

answer all your questions about creating and using a Bart's PE.

 

http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/

 

Hope this helped,

 

Malke

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MS-MVP

Elephant Boy Computers

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[Guest Al Dykes]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

In article <5565EE98-1A36-45B3-B9EA-A5E4420ED577@microsoft.com>,

=?Utf-8?B?c2dvcHVz?= <sgopus@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>it won't work, your recovery depends on enering an install key, OEM keys are

>different from Retail keys, if you tried to use your OEM key it would tell

>you the install key is invalid.

>

>You would be better off, if you purchased an image program and also an

>external HD to make a clone of your system, and update the clone from time to

>time.

 

 

 

Thanks. I figured something would bite me. That's why I asked in such

detail.

 

--

Al Dykes

News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.

- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

[Guest windmap]

Re: Any BartPE slipstreaming/recovery experts here?

 

If you have i386 folder in your primary partition try this to create windows

xp installation disk

http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

 

 

 

"Al Dykes" <adykes@panix.com> wrote in message

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>

> I have an XP laptop that came with XP/Pro SP1/OEM. It didn't come

> with a XP distro disk, just a recovery disk. It's been upgraded to

> SP2.

>

> I'be borrowed a CD of XP/ProSP2 Retail.

>

> I want to make a recovery disk. with BartPE.

>

> It is legit to use a Retail SP2 CD with an OEM, SP1 upgraded system?

>

> Can I give the borrowed CD back? If I need to recover, are there any

> times when recovery will ask me for the Microsoft CD?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --

> Al Dykes

> News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is

> advertising.

> - Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

>