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Guest Bob L.
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I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4 Ultra

A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get

the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a

work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a Safe

Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device Manager

only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it is

listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility

Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there

isn’t one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in

rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

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Guest Brian A.
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Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...

> I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4 Ultra

> A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get

> the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a

> work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a Safe

> Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device Manager

> only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it is

> listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility

> Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there

> isn’t one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in

> rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

 

Troubleshooting MS-DOS Compatibility Mode on Hard Disks:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=130179

 

MS-DOS Compatibility Mode Problems with PCI IDE Controllers

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=151911

 

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Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience }

Conflicts start where information lacks.

http://basconotw.mvps.org/

 

Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm

How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

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Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

 

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...

| I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4

Ultra

| A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get

| the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a

| work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a

Safe

| Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device

Manager

| only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it

is

| listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility

| Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there

| isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in

| rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

 

Someone tell those morons at BIOSTAR that making flash the *required* entry

point is THE STUPIDEST idea that any web page can have.....

 

Has everyone on this planet become brain dead or what .... or is it that

these dimwitted doofuses don't keep up with what is being used as hack

points to people's systems, or maybe they just don't care ...

 

Did you install the motherboard drivers?

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/driver.php?S_ID=283

 

EXPANSION SLOT

# 4 x PCI

# 2 x PCI-E x 1

# 1 x PCI-E x 16

I/O

# 1 x PS/2 Mouse, 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port

# 1 x Serial Port

# 10 x USB 2.0 Ports (4 x Rear USB 2.0 , 6 x Front USB 2.0 )

# 3 x Audio Ports

# 1 x RJ-45 LAN Jack

# 1 x Floppy Connector

# 2 x IDE Connectors (Ultra DMA100/133)

# 4 x SATA Connectors

# 1 x S/PDIF Out Connector

# 1 x CD-in Connector

# 1 x System Fan Connector

# 1 x CPU Fan Connector

# 1 x NorthBridge FAN Connector

# 1 x Front Audio Header

# 1 x Printer Header

INTEGRATED AUDIO

# Realtek ALC655 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC

LAN

# Marrvell 88E1116 - Integrated 10/100/1000 transceiver.

SATA / RAID

# RAID 0,1,0+1

HARDWARE MONITOR FUNCTION

# CPU Fan Speed

# CPU Voltage

# DIMM Voltage

# CPU Temperature

Accessories

# 1 x User Manual

# 1 x HDD Cable

# 1 x FDD Cable

# 1 x SATA Cable

# 1 x Real I/O Panel for ATX Case

# 1 x Fully Setup Driver

SIZE

# ATX Form Factor: 21.8cm (W) x 29.3cm (L)

 

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MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

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Guest philo
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Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

 

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...

> I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4

Ultra

> A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get

> the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a

> work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a

Safe

> Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device

Manager

> only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it

is

> listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility

> Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there

> isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in

> rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

 

 

You will need to install the chipset drivers.

It's possible that the board is too new to have win98 drivers.

If that's the case, you will need to use a supported OS...probably win2k or

XP

Guest Bob L.
Posted

Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

MEB,

No, I didn't install the chipset driver as I could not find one. I do

not believe they have a 98SE driver for the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset. I tried

installing the VIA Chipset driver you have supplied but it is not compatible

with the nVidia Nf4. Is there another 98SE system driver that would work with

the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset?

 

Thanks, Bob

 

 

"MEB" wrote:

>

> "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...

> | I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4

> Ultra

> | A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get

> | the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a

> | work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a

> Safe

> | Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device

> Manager

> | only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it

> is

> | listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility

> | Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there

> | isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in

> | rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

>

> Someone tell those morons at BIOSTAR that making flash the *required* entry

> point is THE STUPIDEST idea that any web page can have.....

>

> Has everyone on this planet become brain dead or what .... or is it that

> these dimwitted doofuses don't keep up with what is being used as hack

> points to people's systems, or maybe they just don't care ...

>

> Did you install the motherboard drivers?

> http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/driver.php?S_ID=283

>

> EXPANSION SLOT

> # 4 x PCI

> # 2 x PCI-E x 1

> # 1 x PCI-E x 16

> I/O

> # 1 x PS/2 Mouse, 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port

> # 1 x Serial Port

> # 10 x USB 2.0 Ports (4 x Rear USB 2.0 , 6 x Front USB 2.0 )

> # 3 x Audio Ports

> # 1 x RJ-45 LAN Jack

> # 1 x Floppy Connector

> # 2 x IDE Connectors (Ultra DMA100/133)

> # 4 x SATA Connectors

> # 1 x S/PDIF Out Connector

> # 1 x CD-in Connector

> # 1 x System Fan Connector

> # 1 x CPU Fan Connector

> # 1 x NorthBridge FAN Connector

> # 1 x Front Audio Header

> # 1 x Printer Header

> INTEGRATED AUDIO

> # Realtek ALC655 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC

> LAN

> # Marrvell 88E1116 - Integrated 10/100/1000 transceiver.

> SATA / RAID

> # RAID 0,1,0+1

> HARDWARE MONITOR FUNCTION

> # CPU Fan Speed

> # CPU Voltage

> # DIMM Voltage

> # CPU Temperature

> Accessories

> # 1 x User Manual

> # 1 x HDD Cable

> # 1 x FDD Cable

> # 1 x SATA Cable

> # 1 x Real I/O Panel for ATX Case

> # 1 x Fully Setup Driver

> SIZE

> # ATX Form Factor: 21.8cm (W) x 29.3cm (L)

>

> --

> MEB

> http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

>

>

>

Guest Bob L.
Posted

Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

 

 

Philo,

Does anyone make aftermarket or custom drivers for these situations,

where the manufactureer does not provide them?

 

"philo" wrote:

>

> "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...

> > I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4

> Ultra

> > A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to get

> > the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or maybe a

> > work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a

> Safe

> > Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device

> Manager

> > only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as it

> is

> > listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility

> > Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but there

> > isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help me in

> > rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most appreciated?

>

>

> You will need to install the chipset drivers.

> It's possible that the board is too new to have win98 drivers.

> If that's the case, you will need to use a supported OS...probably win2k or

> XP

>

>

>

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Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

 

 

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:715EF6C8-9F77-4A78-9ABE-A2757B942923@microsoft.com...

| MEB,

| No, I didn't install the chipset driver as I could not find one. I do

| not believe they have a 98SE driver for the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset. I

tried

| installing the VIA Chipset driver you have supplied but it is not

compatible

| with the nVidia Nf4. Is there another 98SE system driver that would work

with

| the nVidia Nf4 Ultra chipset?

|

| Thanks, Bob

|

 

Thought that might work, that's what I was directed to at the main Taiwan

site. Found some others that had people TRYING to get it to work, but

nothing I would direct you to as THE answer.

All the other sites [mirrors or other nation Biostar sites] do NOT have

drivers for 9X, the systems supported are 2000, XP, and VISTA.

 

You could try on some of the tweak or mod sites like MSFN Or Tom's Harware

to see if anyone found something or modified files for it..

 

|

| "MEB" wrote:

|

| >

| > "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...

| > | I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4

| > Ultra

| > | A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to

get

| > | the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or

maybe a

| > | work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a

| > Safe

| > | Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device

| > Manager

| > | only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as

it

| > is

| > | listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS

Compatibility

| > | Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but

there

| > | isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help

me in

| > | rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most

appreciated?

| >

| > Someone tell those morons at BIOSTAR that making flash the *required*

entry

| > point is THE STUPIDEST idea that any web page can have.....

| >

| > Has everyone on this planet become brain dead or what .... or is it

that

| > these dimwitted doofuses don't keep up with what is being used as hack

| > points to people's systems, or maybe they just don't care ...

| >

| > Did you install the motherboard drivers?

| > http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/mb/driver.php?S_ID=283

| >

| > EXPANSION SLOT

| > # 4 x PCI

| > # 2 x PCI-E x 1

| > # 1 x PCI-E x 16

| > I/O

| > # 1 x PS/2 Mouse, 1x PS/2 Keyboard Port

| > # 1 x Serial Port

| > # 10 x USB 2.0 Ports (4 x Rear USB 2.0 , 6 x Front USB 2.0 )

| > # 3 x Audio Ports

| > # 1 x RJ-45 LAN Jack

| > # 1 x Floppy Connector

| > # 2 x IDE Connectors (Ultra DMA100/133)

| > # 4 x SATA Connectors

| > # 1 x S/PDIF Out Connector

| > # 1 x CD-in Connector

| > # 1 x System Fan Connector

| > # 1 x CPU Fan Connector

| > # 1 x NorthBridge FAN Connector

| > # 1 x Front Audio Header

| > # 1 x Printer Header

| > INTEGRATED AUDIO

| > # Realtek ALC655 6-Channel AC'97 CODEC

| > LAN

| > # Marrvell 88E1116 - Integrated 10/100/1000 transceiver.

| > SATA / RAID

| > # RAID 0,1,0+1

| > HARDWARE MONITOR FUNCTION

| > # CPU Fan Speed

| > # CPU Voltage

| > # DIMM Voltage

| > # CPU Temperature

| > Accessories

| > # 1 x User Manual

| > # 1 x HDD Cable

| > # 1 x FDD Cable

| > # 1 x SATA Cable

| > # 1 x Real I/O Panel for ATX Case

| > # 1 x Fully Setup Driver

| > SIZE

| > # ATX Form Factor: 21.8cm (W) x 29.3cm (L)

| >

| > --

| > MEB

--

MEB

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

Guest philo
Posted

Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

 

"Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:05839973-C27C-4E86-B39B-6A53A153E6DE@microsoft.com...

>

>

> Philo,

> Does anyone make aftermarket or custom drivers for these situations,

> where the manufactureer does not provide them?

>

 

 

If the mfg does not provide win98 drivers...then they just plain do not

exist.

 

My recommendation would be to use a newer OS or else get an older board with

win98 support.

 

 

If you absolutely insist on using that board and win98 the only work-around

would be to

get a PCI controller for your harddrive and CD ( One that you can confirm

has win98 support)

 

Of course you would also need to get win98-supported cards for any on-board

devices...

but your machine would need PCI slots rather than PCI-e

 

 

> "philo" wrote:

>

> >

> > "Bob L." <BobL@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:7D1F899D-4599-4A25-8CAF-D3B71183D681@microsoft.com...

> > > I have just upgraded my system with a new motherboard (Biostar NF4

> > Ultra

> > > A9A) that has an NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Chipset. Does anyone know how to

get

> > > the 98SE operating system up and running with this motherboard or

maybe a

> > > work around? I am able to boot the system but the Desktop looks like a

> > Safe

> > > Mode display and the Hard Drive or CD drive is not listed in Device

> > Manager

> > > only a Floppy Drive. I can access the FAT partition with no problem as

it

> > is

> > > listed in My Computer as C drive. The system runs in MSDOS

Compatibility

> > > Mode. I tried to do a registry repair deleting the NOIDE value but

there

> > > isn't one listed. What could be causing the problem? Can anyone help

me in

> > > rectifying the situation? Any help or response would be most

appreciated?

> >

> >

> > You will need to install the chipset drivers.

> > It's possible that the board is too new to have win98 drivers.

> > If that's the case, you will need to use a supported OS...probably win2k

or

> > XP

> >

> >

> >

Guest Fan924
Posted

Re: 98SE Runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode

 

> "Bob L." <B...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> The system runs in MSDOS Compatibility Mode.

 

I just went through this on a 2.6Ghz Gateway E6100. Nothing worked.

Then I tried this. Go into the BIOS. Change ATA/IDE Confiuration from

"ENHANCED" to "LEGACY". No more MSDOS mode!


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