XP License question

[Guest Brian]

I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just bought for

evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to see if XP improves

the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow for a new computer. If XP

does improve the performance, I'd plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd

computer.

 

Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

[Guest Brian]

RE: XP License question

 

I forgot to mention that I would unistall/install/reactivate the new copy of

XP upon verification.

 

"Brian" wrote:

> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just bought for

> evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to see if XP improves

> the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow for a new computer. If XP

> does improve the performance, I'd plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd

> computer.

>

> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

[Guest Shenan Stanley]

Re: XP License question

 

Brian wrote:

> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just

> bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to

> see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely

> slow for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd

> plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

>

> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

 

Under the strict wording of the End User Licensing Agreement for Windows XP

(varies with the type of Windows XP License you have - which you neglected

to share with us - such as OEM, Retail, Upgrade, MSDN, etc.) this may or may

not be allowed.

 

If you have Retail/Upgrade and the current copy of Windows XP is unused...

Yes, without a doubt (for the upgrade, the added limitation of having an

unattached upgradable to Windows XP product available as well is there.)

 

If you have an OEM license of Windows XP - no. It is non-transferrable. It

is tied to the first computer it was installed and activated upon.

 

If Volume or MSDN License (doubting either given your question) - likely

you would have no issue - depending on your volume license agreement and/or

knowing you were just doing this to 'test'.

 

You may have downgrade rights as well - contact the original reseller of

said new system. I do not know the details for that beyond what I have

said.

 

Although - I think what you are asking is "can I do it just to try it and

then if it is better, buy a new license for XP?" and no one in this public

newsgroup will likely be able to legally or otherwise give you permission to

do this. As you can see from above - what you can/cannot do with said

Windows XP license will be determined by they type of license, if it is in

use anywhere else, etc.

 

From a strict strandpoint, you probably cannot do what you want to do. From

a less strict one - you probably can. Especially if you don'tactivate it in

the 30 days you get before having to activate Windows XP - I would think -

that should be more than enough time for you to make your judgement call on

the speed of the machine.

 

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Shenan Stanley

MS-MVP

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[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP License question

 

If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have

downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be business

editions.

 

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:eMOpRn6iIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Brian wrote:

>> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just

>> bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to

>> see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely

>> slow for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd

>> plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

>>

>> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

>

> Under the strict wording of the End User Licensing Agreement for Windows

> XP (varies with the type of Windows XP License you have - which you

> neglected to share with us - such as OEM, Retail, Upgrade, MSDN, etc.)

> this may or may not be allowed.

>

> If you have Retail/Upgrade and the current copy of Windows XP is unused...

> Yes, without a doubt (for the upgrade, the added limitation of having an

> unattached upgradable to Windows XP product available as well is there.)

>

> If you have an OEM license of Windows XP - no. It is non-transferrable.

> It is tied to the first computer it was installed and activated upon.

>

> If Volume or MSDN License (doubting either given your question) - likely

> you would have no issue - depending on your volume license agreement

> and/or knowing you were just doing this to 'test'.

>

> You may have downgrade rights as well - contact the original reseller of

> said new system. I do not know the details for that beyond what I have

> said.

>

> Although - I think what you are asking is "can I do it just to try it and

> then if it is better, buy a new license for XP?" and no one in this public

> newsgroup will likely be able to legally or otherwise give you permission

> to do this. As you can see from above - what you can/cannot do with said

> Windows XP license will be determined by they type of license, if it is in

> use anywhere else, etc.

>

> From a strict strandpoint, you probably cannot do what you want to do.

> From a less strict one - you probably can. Especially if you

> don'tactivate it in the 30 days you get before having to activate Windows

> XP - I would think - that should be more than enough time for you to make

> your judgement call on the speed of the machine.

>

> --

> Shenan Stanley

> MS-MVP

> --

> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

[Guest Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM]

Re: XP License question

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

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> If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have

> downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be business

> editions.

 

 

What's a business edition of WinXP? I guess that would have to be Pro.

 

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[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP License question

 

XP Pro x64, XP Pro x86, and XP Tablet PC edition. It is shorter just say

"business" edition than all that.

 

"Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message

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> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message

> news:C47509F3-66B6-4250-8758-9BEA58E24175@microsoft.com...

>> If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have

>> downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be business

>> editions.

>

>

> What's a business edition of WinXP? I guess that would have to be Pro.

>

> --

> Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM

> http://www.fjsmjs.com

> Do not reply with email

[Guest WindPipe]

Re: XP License question

 

Brian wrote:

> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just bought for

> evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to see if XP improves

> the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow for a new computer. If XP

> does improve the performance, I'd plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd

> computer.

>

> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

 

You have 30 days of Windows XP usage before you need to activate. I guess this is

acceptable under the XP licence agreement before validation. You will get a better

performance using XP.

 

- WindPipe

[Guest DL]

Re: XP License question

 

I have to say my recently purchased, not particularly high end Vista

Business PC performs just fine, but then that might depend on what apps you

are running, its certainly no different to my XP pcs using Office

 

"Brian" <Brian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:A9A89B10-1A8C-480B-82E5-DC6EA38306A3@microsoft.com...

> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just bought

> for

> evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to see if XP

> improves

> the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow for a new computer. If

> XP

> does improve the performance, I'd plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd

> computer.

>

> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

[Guest Twayne]

Re: XP License question

 

> If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have

> downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be

> business editions.

>

> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eMOpRn6iIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Brian wrote:

>>> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just

>>> bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to

>>> see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely

>>> slow for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd

>>> plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

>>>

>>> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

>>

>> Under the strict wording of the End User Licensing Agreement for

>> Windows XP (varies with the type of Windows XP License you have -

>> which you neglected to share with us - such as OEM, Retail, Upgrade,

>> MSDN, etc.) this may or may not be allowed.

>>

>> If you have Retail/Upgrade and the current copy of Windows XP is

>> unused... Yes, without a doubt (for the upgrade, the added

>> limitation of having an unattached upgradable to Windows XP product

>> available as well is there.) If you have an OEM license of Windows

>> XP - no. It is

>> non-transferrable. It is tied to the first computer it was installed

>> and activated upon. If Volume or MSDN License (doubting either given

>> your question) -

>> likely you would have no issue - depending on your volume license

>> agreement and/or knowing you were just doing this to 'test'.

>>

>> You may have downgrade rights as well - contact the original

>> reseller of said new system. I do not know the details for that

>> beyond what I have said.

>>

>> Although - I think what you are asking is "can I do it just to try

>> it and then if it is better, buy a new license for XP?" and no one

>> in this public newsgroup will likely be able to legally or otherwise

>> give you permission to do this. As you can see from above - what

>> you can/cannot do with said Windows XP license will be determined by

>> they type of license, if it is in use anywhere else, etc.

>>

>> From a strict strandpoint, you probably cannot do what you want to

>> do. From a less strict one - you probably can. Especially if you

>> don'tactivate it in the 30 days you get before having to activate

>> Windows XP - I would think - that should be more than enough time

>> for you to make your judgement call on the speed of the machine.

>>

>> --

>> Shenan Stanley

>> MS-MVP

>> --

>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

 

There is no "business edition" of XP. It's Home or Pro, and that's it.

 

 

 

 

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Regards,

 

Twayne

 

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;

OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement

http://www.openoffice.org

[Guest Twayne]

Re: XP License question

 

> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just

> bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to

> see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow

> for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd plan on

> buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

>

> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

 

To put it simply: Techincally by license there can never be more than

one instance of XP installed at any one time on any one or more

computers. You can't even technically install it twice on the same

machine for a dual-boot situation, not that doing so would make any

sense.

So technically the answer to you question is, NO, you can not do it

without first uninstalling it from the other machine. I don't know why

people are making it sound so complex.

 

Further to that, if it's a Retail version, it'll install to another

machine fine. If it's an OEM version though, it's a crapshoot as to

whether it would be able to work on a different machine. It depends on

how much the OEM bastardized the OEM version. Some won't even begin to

install; others will seemingly install but not do so, and yet others

will actually install. So, it depends. If the keycode has OEM in it,

it is an OEM version.

 

HTH

--

Regards,

 

Twayne

 

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;

OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement

http://www.openoffice.org

[Guest Twayne]

Re: XP License question

 

> Brian wrote:

>> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just

>> bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to

>> see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow

>> for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd plan on

>> buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

>>

>> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

>

> You have 30 days of Windows XP usage before you need to activate. I

> guess this is acceptable under the XP licence agreement before

> validation. You will get a better performance using XP.

>

> - WindPipe

 

Not necessarily. There are way too many dependencies in both OS to make

such a blanket statement. That's assuming the drivers are present to be

able to install XP on the other machine, if it was delivered with Vista.

 

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Regards,

 

Twayne

 

Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;

OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement

http://www.openoffice.org

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP License question

 

The business editions of XP are XP Pro x86, XP Tablet, XP Pro x64, XP Pro

IA64 (Itanium processors), XP Pro N, and XP Pro K. These are called

business editions by Microsoft and the lifecycle support policy

distinguishes between business and consumer editions (XP Home, XP MCE, and

XP Starter). See:

http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=lifecycle

Only the business editions are eligible for downgrade rights as described in

the reference sheet for OEMs:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/f/4/5f4c83d3-833e-4f11-8cbd-699b0c164182/royaltyoemreferencesheet.pdf

 

 

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message

news:ue2r7jRjIHA.6032@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> If he has a business edition of Vista preinstalled then he could have

>> downgrade rights to a business edition of XP. But they must be

>> business editions.

>>

>> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:eMOpRn6iIHA.6092@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>> Brian wrote:

>>>> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just

>>>> bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to

>>>> see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely

>>>> slow for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd

>>>> plan on buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

>>>>

>>>> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

>>>

>>> Under the strict wording of the End User Licensing Agreement for

>>> Windows XP (varies with the type of Windows XP License you have -

>>> which you neglected to share with us - such as OEM, Retail, Upgrade,

>>> MSDN, etc.) this may or may not be allowed.

>>>

>>> If you have Retail/Upgrade and the current copy of Windows XP is

>>> unused... Yes, without a doubt (for the upgrade, the added

>>> limitation of having an unattached upgradable to Windows XP product

>>> available as well is there.) If you have an OEM license of Windows XP -

>>> no. It is

>>> non-transferrable. It is tied to the first computer it was installed

>>> and activated upon. If Volume or MSDN License (doubting either given

>>> your question) -

>>> likely you would have no issue - depending on your volume license

>>> agreement and/or knowing you were just doing this to 'test'.

>>>

>>> You may have downgrade rights as well - contact the original

>>> reseller of said new system. I do not know the details for that

>>> beyond what I have said.

>>>

>>> Although - I think what you are asking is "can I do it just to try

>>> it and then if it is better, buy a new license for XP?" and no one

>>> in this public newsgroup will likely be able to legally or otherwise

>>> give you permission to do this. As you can see from above - what

>>> you can/cannot do with said Windows XP license will be determined by

>>> they type of license, if it is in use anywhere else, etc.

>>>

>>> From a strict strandpoint, you probably cannot do what you want to

>>> do. From a less strict one - you probably can. Especially if you

>>> don'tactivate it in the 30 days you get before having to activate

>>> Windows XP - I would think - that should be more than enough time

>>> for you to make your judgement call on the speed of the machine.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Shenan Stanley

>>> MS-MVP

>>> --

>>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

> There is no "business edition" of XP. It's Home or Pro, and that's it.

>

>

>

>

> --

> --

> Regards,

>

> Twayne

>

> Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;

> OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement

> http://www.openoffice.org

>

>

>

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: XP License question

 

Not true. When a user downgrades to XP he does so by installing XP from

media he owns and then when he activates he chooses to activate over the

phone rather than the internet. When he talks to an agent he states he is

downgrading from a Vista business edition preinstalled on his computer and

using a copy of XP already running on another of his computers. The agent

will then give him an activation code that will give him a second activation

of XP using the same XP product key.

 

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message

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>> I'd like to install my copy of XP Pro on another computer I just

>> bought for evaluation. The new computer has Vista, and I'd like to

>> see if XP improves the performance, b/c right now it's insanely slow

>> for a new computer. If XP does improve the performance, I'd plan on

>> buying a new copy for the 2nd computer.

>>

>> Is this acceptable under the XP licensing agreement?

>

> To put it simply: Techincally by license there can never be more than one

> instance of XP installed at any one time on any one or more computers.

> You can't even technically install it twice on the same machine for a

> dual-boot situation, not that doing so would make any sense.

> So technically the answer to you question is, NO, you can not do it

> without first uninstalling it from the other machine. I don't know why

> people are making it sound so complex.

>

> Further to that, if it's a Retail version, it'll install to another

> machine fine. If it's an OEM version though, it's a crapshoot as to

> whether it would be able to work on a different machine. It depends on

> how much the OEM bastardized the OEM version. Some won't even begin to

> install; others will seemingly install but not do so, and yet others will

> actually install. So, it depends. If the keycode has OEM in it, it is an

> OEM version.

>

> HTH

> --

> Regards,

>

> Twayne

>

> Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore;

> OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement

> http://www.openoffice.org

>

>

>