Can programs run without requiring a logon.

[Guest ThomasAJ]

I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available scheduler)

without having to be logged on.

 

Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal Services.

 

Can this be done in W2003?

 

--

Regards

Tom

[Guest neo [mvp outlook]]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the Windows

server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you picked, the

solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain account.

 

To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a NTBACKUP

job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this example, you

would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

administrator rights.

 

"ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

>I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available scheduler)

> without having to be logged on.

>

> Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

> Services.

>

> Can this be done in W2003?

>

> --

> Regards

> Tom

[Guest ThomasAJ]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

My apologies, I was not clear enough.

 

This is a small office with 1 server and 5 PCs. No domain etc.

 

Forget I mentioned the word 'backup'. The question is primarily about

running unattended jobs (programs). I come from a non-MS background so my

terminology may be loose.

 

So can you point me to some documentation or just mention the key 'how-tos'

--

Regards

Tom

 

 

"neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

> All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the Windows

> server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you picked, the

> solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain account.

>

> To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a NTBACKUP

> job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this example, you

> would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

> administrator rights.

>

> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

> >I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available scheduler)

> > without having to be logged on.

> >

> > Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

> > Services.

> >

> > Can this be done in W2003?

> >

> > --

> > Regards

> > Tom

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

You need to have a closer look at your scheduler. It requires you

to specify an account to be used for the tasks it schedules, same

as the inbuilt Task Scheduler. By the way, what's wrong with

using the Task Scheduler?

 

 

"ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:34EC10AD-F1C8-4815-8FBB-21297A810C5A@microsoft.com...

> My apologies, I was not clear enough.

>

> This is a small office with 1 server and 5 PCs. No domain etc.

>

> Forget I mentioned the word 'backup'. The question is primarily about

> running unattended jobs (programs). I come from a non-MS background so my

> terminology may be loose.

>

> So can you point me to some documentation or just mention the key

> 'how-tos'

> --

> Regards

> Tom

>

>

> "neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

>

>> All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the Windows

>> server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you picked,

>> the

>> solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain

>> account.

>>

>> To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a NTBACKUP

>> job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this example,

>> you

>> would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

>> administrator rights.

>>

>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

>> >I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available

>> >scheduler)

>> > without having to be logged on.

>> >

>> > Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

>> > Services.

>> >

>> > Can this be done in W2003?

>> >

>> > --

>> > Regards

>> > Tom

>>

>>

>>

[Guest ThomasAJ]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

Oh... there is an inbuilt task schedular? OK I'll look at it.

 

--

Regards

Tom

 

 

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

> You need to have a closer look at your scheduler. It requires you

> to specify an account to be used for the tasks it schedules, same

> as the inbuilt Task Scheduler. By the way, what's wrong with

> using the Task Scheduler?

>

>

> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:34EC10AD-F1C8-4815-8FBB-21297A810C5A@microsoft.com...

> > My apologies, I was not clear enough.

> >

> > This is a small office with 1 server and 5 PCs. No domain etc.

> >

> > Forget I mentioned the word 'backup'. The question is primarily about

> > running unattended jobs (programs). I come from a non-MS background so my

> > terminology may be loose.

> >

> > So can you point me to some documentation or just mention the key

> > 'how-tos'

> > --

> > Regards

> > Tom

> >

> >

> > "neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

> >

> >> All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the Windows

> >> server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you picked,

> >> the

> >> solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain

> >> account.

> >>

> >> To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a NTBACKUP

> >> job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this example,

> >> you

> >> would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

> >> administrator rights.

> >>

> >> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> >> news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

> >> >I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available

> >> >scheduler)

> >> > without having to be logged on.

> >> >

> >> > Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

> >> > Services.

> >> >

> >> > Can this be done in W2003?

> >> >

> >> > --

> >> > Regards

> >> > Tom

> >>

> >>

> >>

>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

Of course there is. It's been around since Windows NT,

perhaps even since Windows 98. You can find it in the

Control Panel.

 

 

"ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:C11FDE46-1191-4CB0-A9F2-F2EFA603A506@microsoft.com...

> Oh... there is an inbuilt task schedular? OK I'll look at it.

>

> --

> Regards

> Tom

>

>

> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>

>> You need to have a closer look at your scheduler. It requires you

>> to specify an account to be used for the tasks it schedules, same

>> as the inbuilt Task Scheduler. By the way, what's wrong with

>> using the Task Scheduler?

>>

>>

>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:34EC10AD-F1C8-4815-8FBB-21297A810C5A@microsoft.com...

>> > My apologies, I was not clear enough.

>> >

>> > This is a small office with 1 server and 5 PCs. No domain etc.

>> >

>> > Forget I mentioned the word 'backup'. The question is primarily about

>> > running unattended jobs (programs). I come from a non-MS background so

>> > my

>> > terminology may be loose.

>> >

>> > So can you point me to some documentation or just mention the key

>> > 'how-tos'

>> > --

>> > Regards

>> > Tom

>> >

>> >

>> > "neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

>> >

>> >> All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the

>> >> Windows

>> >> server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you

>> >> picked,

>> >> the

>> >> solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain

>> >> account.

>> >>

>> >> To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a

>> >> NTBACKUP

>> >> job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this

>> >> example,

>> >> you

>> >> would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

>> >> administrator rights.

>> >>

>> >> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> >> news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

>> >> >I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available

>> >> >scheduler)

>> >> > without having to be logged on.

>> >> >

>> >> > Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

>> >> > Services.

>> >> >

>> >> > Can this be done in W2003?

>> >> >

>> >> > --

>> >> > Regards

>> >> > Tom

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Paul Weterings]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

You mentioned having a non-MS background. Maybe the 'at' command from

the cli is more familiar to you. This also allows to schedule tasks

using the schedule service.

 

--

 

/ ) Regards,

/ /_________

_|__|__) Paul Weterings

/ (O_)

__/ (O_)

____(O_)

 

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

> Of course there is. It's been around since Windows NT,

> perhaps even since Windows 98. You can find it in the

> Control Panel.

>

>

> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:C11FDE46-1191-4CB0-A9F2-F2EFA603A506@microsoft.com...

>> Oh... there is an inbuilt task schedular? OK I'll look at it.

>>

>> --

>> Regards

>> Tom

>>

>>

>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>>

>>> You need to have a closer look at your scheduler. It requires you

>>> to specify an account to be used for the tasks it schedules, same

>>> as the inbuilt Task Scheduler. By the way, what's wrong with

>>> using the Task Scheduler?

>>>

>>>

>>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:34EC10AD-F1C8-4815-8FBB-21297A810C5A@microsoft.com...

>>>> My apologies, I was not clear enough.

>>>>

>>>> This is a small office with 1 server and 5 PCs. No domain etc.

>>>>

>>>> Forget I mentioned the word 'backup'. The question is primarily about

>>>> running unattended jobs (programs). I come from a non-MS background so

>>>> my

>>>> terminology may be loose.

>>>>

>>>> So can you point me to some documentation or just mention the key

>>>> 'how-tos'

>>>> --

>>>> Regards

>>>> Tom

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the

>>>>> Windows

>>>>> server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you

>>>>> picked,

>>>>> the

>>>>> solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain

>>>>> account.

>>>>>

>>>>> To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a

>>>>> NTBACKUP

>>>>> job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this

>>>>> example,

>>>>> you

>>>>> would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

>>>>> administrator rights.

>>>>>

>>>>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available

>>>>>> scheduler)

>>>>>> without having to be logged on.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

>>>>>> Services.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Can this be done in W2003?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>> Tom

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>

>>>

>

>

[Guest Pegasus \(MVP\)]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

at.exe is fine for basic tasks but it lacks 90% of the features that

were added to schtasks.exe. Much, much more powerful!

 

 

"Paul Weterings" <Paul-nospam-@syncpuls-dot-com> wrote in message

news:47e642e4$0$18914$e4fe514c@dreader21.news.xs4all.nl...

> You mentioned having a non-MS background. Maybe the 'at' command from the

> cli is more familiar to you. This also allows to schedule tasks using the

> schedule service.

>

> --

>

> / ) Regards,

> / /_________

> _|__|__) Paul Weterings

> / (O_)

> __/ (O_)

> ____(O_)

>

> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>> Of course there is. It's been around since Windows NT,

>> perhaps even since Windows 98. You can find it in the

>> Control Panel.

>>

>>

>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:C11FDE46-1191-4CB0-A9F2-F2EFA603A506@microsoft.com...

>>> Oh... there is an inbuilt task schedular? OK I'll look at it.

>>>

>>> --

>>> Regards

>>> Tom

>>>

>>>

>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>>>

>>>> You need to have a closer look at your scheduler. It requires you

>>>> to specify an account to be used for the tasks it schedules, same

>>>> as the inbuilt Task Scheduler. By the way, what's wrong with

>>>> using the Task Scheduler?

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:34EC10AD-F1C8-4815-8FBB-21297A810C5A@microsoft.com...

>>>>> My apologies, I was not clear enough.

>>>>>

>>>>> This is a small office with 1 server and 5 PCs. No domain etc.

>>>>>

>>>>> Forget I mentioned the word 'backup'. The question is primarily about

>>>>> running unattended jobs (programs). I come from a non-MS background so

>>>>> my

>>>>> terminology may be loose.

>>>>>

>>>>> So can you point me to some documentation or just mention the key

>>>>> 'how-tos'

>>>>> --

>>>>> Regards

>>>>> Tom

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the

>>>>>> Windows

>>>>>> server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you

>>>>>> picked,

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain

>>>>>> account.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a

>>>>>> NTBACKUP

>>>>>> job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this

>>>>>> example,

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

>>>>>> administrator rights.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>> news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>> I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available

>>>>>>> scheduler)

>>>>>>> without having to be logged on.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

>>>>>>> Services.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Can this be done in W2003?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>>> Tom

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>

[Guest Paul Weterings]

Re: Can programs run without requiring a logon.

 

I couldn't agree more, it's just that he mentioned a non-MS background,

I assumed Linux/Unix; that's why I came up with at, which is available

on both OS's, therefor; possibly more familiar ;-)

 

 

 

/ ) Regards,

/ /_________

_|__|__) Paul Weterings

/ (O_)

__/ (O_)

____(O_)

 

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

> at.exe is fine for basic tasks but it lacks 90% of the features that

> were added to schtasks.exe. Much, much more powerful!

>

>

> "Paul Weterings" <Paul-nospam-@syncpuls-dot-com> wrote in message

> news:47e642e4$0$18914$e4fe514c@dreader21.news.xs4all.nl...

>> You mentioned having a non-MS background. Maybe the 'at' command from the

>> cli is more familiar to you. This also allows to schedule tasks using the

>> schedule service.

>>

>> --

>>

>> / ) Regards,

>> / /_________

>> _|__|__) Paul Weterings

>> / (O_)

>> __/ (O_)

>> ____(O_)

>>

>> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>>> Of course there is. It's been around since Windows NT,

>>> perhaps even since Windows 98. You can find it in the

>>> Control Panel.

>>>

>>>

>>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>> news:C11FDE46-1191-4CB0-A9F2-F2EFA603A506@microsoft.com...

>>>> Oh... there is an inbuilt task schedular? OK I'll look at it.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Regards

>>>> Tom

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> You need to have a closer look at your scheduler. It requires you

>>>>> to specify an account to be used for the tasks it schedules, same

>>>>> as the inbuilt Task Scheduler. By the way, what's wrong with

>>>>> using the Task Scheduler?

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>> news:34EC10AD-F1C8-4815-8FBB-21297A810C5A@microsoft.com...

>>>>>> My apologies, I was not clear enough.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> This is a small office with 1 server and 5 PCs. No domain etc.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Forget I mentioned the word 'backup'. The question is primarily about

>>>>>> running unattended jobs (programs). I come from a non-MS background so

>>>>>> my

>>>>>> terminology may be loose.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So can you point me to some documentation or just mention the key

>>>>>> 'how-tos'

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>> Tom

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> "neo [mvp outlook]" wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> All programs run under some form of context when it comes to the

>>>>>>> Windows

>>>>>>> server platform. Not knowing what corporate backup solution you

>>>>>>> picked,

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> solution may run under the SYSTEM context or a site defined domain

>>>>>>> account.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> To give you an idea in regards to Windows 2003, you can create a

>>>>>>> NTBACKUP

>>>>>>> job that schedule that to run via the Task Schedular. In this

>>>>>>> example,

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>> would most likely create the backup job uisng an account that has

>>>>>>> administrator rights.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:2BAE8BD2-3A21-4F73-97A2-0CA6CFAAE530@microsoft.com...

>>>>>>>> I want to run say a file backup (using a commercially available

>>>>>>>> scheduler)

>>>>>>>> without having to be logged on.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Sure the scheduler runs if I DISCONNECT administrator from Terminal

>>>>>>>> Services.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Can this be done in W2003?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> Regards

>>>>>>>> Tom

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>