Guest bcags7 Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Hello, This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear answer. I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says to install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem with my particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and installed it just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers and installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports magically began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all prior updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my ethernet ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first (if they're not included in SP2). Thanks!!
Guest DL Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 Personally I've allways used the motherboard cd to install drivers prior to updating win. If your mobo contains an onboard nic, then likely it wont work untill you've installed chipset & other mobo drivers sp2 includes all updates prior to sp2 You *dont* obtain drivers from winupdate but use the manufacturers drivers avilable from their cd or sites "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... > Hello, > > This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear > answer. > I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service > packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says to > install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset > drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem with > my > particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I > cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and installed > it > just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers and > installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports > magically > began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all prior > updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes > everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my ethernet > ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first (if > they're not included in SP2). > > Thanks!!
Guest PD43 Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 bcags7 <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > I have, however, downloaded SP2 and installed it >just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers and >installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports magically >began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all prior >updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes >everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my ethernet >ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first (if >they're not included in SP2). I thought you said your ethernet ports "magically began working" and you downloaded/installed SP2.
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any of the updates release prior to SP2. "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... > Hello, > > This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear > answer. > I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service > packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says to > install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset > drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem with > my > particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I > cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and installed > it > just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers and > installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports > magically > began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all prior > updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes > everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my ethernet > ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first (if > they're not included in SP2). > > Thanks!!
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 And as soon as you have SP2 installed, see this KB article which should help make Automatic Update functional: Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP installation: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery installs. How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 Related: Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html Security FAQ & Checklist http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8463 -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ Colin Barnhorst wrote: > SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any of the > updates release prior to SP2. > > "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >> Hello, >> >> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >> answer. >> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service >> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says >> to >> install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset >> drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem with >> my >> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I >> cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and >> installed >> it >> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers >> and >> installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports >> magically >> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >> prior >> updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes >> everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my ethernet >> ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first (if >> they're not included in SP2). >> >> Thanks!!
Guest smlunatick Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 On Mar 23, 9:17 am, bcags7 <bca...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Hello, > > This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear answer. > I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service > packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says to > install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset > drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem with my > particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I > cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and installed it > just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers and > installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports magically > began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all prior > updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes > everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my ethernet > ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first (if > they're not included in SP2). > > Thanks!! Since you are install XP onto a new "system", you should consider downloading the SP 2 completely and slipstreaming it with the orginial CD. This creates a new install CD which will have all the updates in SP2 pre-installed. Then just install the chipset drivers and then do the remaining updates.
Guest Twayne Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 > SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any > of the updates release prior to SP2. Not quite; you still need the hot fixes that came out AFTER SP2 was released. > > "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >> Hello, >> >> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >> answer. >> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service >> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it >> says to install all Windows updates and service packs before >> installing chipset drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this >> is a common problem with my >> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, >> so I cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 >> and installed it >> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with >> drivers and installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the >> ethernet ports magically >> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >> prior updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it >> includes everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to >> get my ethernet ports working before installing SP2 in order to >> install updates first (if they're not included in SP2). >> >> Thanks!! -- -- Regards, Twayne Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore; OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement http://www.openoffice.org
Guest Twayne Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 > Hello, > > This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear > answer. I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no > service packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual > - it says to install all Windows updates and service packs before > installing chipset drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this > is a common problem with my particular motherboard, my onboard > ethernet ports are not working, so I cannot install any updates. I > have, however, downloaded SP2 and installed it just to see what > happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers and installing > a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports magically > began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all > prior updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it > includes everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to > get my ethernet ports working before installing SP2 in order to > install updates first (if they're not included in SP2). > > Thanks!! SP2 includes SP1 and all the hotfixes between SP1 and SP2. You still need to get the updates that occurred after the release of SP2 though. And there are quite a few of them. -- -- Regards, Twayne Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore; OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement http://www.openoffice.org
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 Like I said, he doesn't need the updates released prior to SP2. "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:uBZ78oRjIHA.1132@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any >> of the updates release prior to SP2. > > Not quite; you still need the hot fixes that came out AFTER SP2 was > released. > >> >> "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >>> Hello, >>> >>> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >>> answer. >>> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service >>> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it >>> says to install all Windows updates and service packs before >>> installing chipset drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this >>> is a common problem with my >>> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, >>> so I cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 >>> and installed it >>> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with >>> drivers and installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the >>> ethernet ports magically >>> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >>> prior updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it >>> includes everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to >>> get my ethernet ports working before installing SP2 in order to >>> install updates first (if they're not included in SP2). >>> >>> Thanks!! > > > > -- > -- > Regards, > > Twayne > > Open Office isn't just for wimps anymore; > OOo is a GREAT MS Office replacement > http://www.openoffice.org > > >
Guest Big Al Posted March 23, 2008 Posted March 23, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 bcags7 wrote: > Hello, > > This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear answer. > I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service > packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says to > install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset > drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem with my > particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I > cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and installed it > just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers and > installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports magically > began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all prior > updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes > everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my ethernet > ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first (if > they're not included in SP2). > > Thanks!! You're fine. Just get the nic working so you can get the 100+ updates to SP2 later.
Guest Alan Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 Hi Pa Bear, I'm not doubting you when you say "NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery installs." But I'm wondering why there would be ANY leftover files to cause conflicts from a prior installation, if a user does a clean install and is basically starting an XP installation on a newly-formatted hard drive. Alan "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:uEDmbHQjIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > And as soon as you have SP2 installed, see this KB article which should > help make Automatic Update functional: > > Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft > Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP > installation: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 > > NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery > installs. > > How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP: > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 > > Related: > > Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet > http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html > > Security FAQ & Checklist > http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8463 > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net > DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ > > Colin Barnhorst wrote: >> SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any of >> the >> updates release prior to SP2. >> >> "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >>> Hello, >>> >>> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >>> answer. >>> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service >>> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says >>> to >>> install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset >>> drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem >>> with >>> my >>> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I >>> cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and >>> installed >>> it >>> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers >>> and >>> installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports >>> magically >>> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >>> prior >>> updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes >>> everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my >>> ethernet >>> ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first >>> (if >>> they're not included in SP2). >>> >>> Thanks!! >
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 "Because the registry files that correspond to the Wups2.dll file are missing, update installations are unsuccessful." (Source: KB943144) Alan wrote: > Hi Pa Bear, > > I'm not doubting you when you say "NB: Also applies to clean installs, > upgrade installs, and Recovery installs." > > But I'm wondering why there would be ANY leftover files to cause conflicts > from a prior installation, if a user does a clean install and is basically > starting an XP installation on a newly-formatted hard drive. > > Alan > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uEDmbHQjIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> And as soon as you have SP2 installed, see this KB article which should >> help make Automatic Update functional: >> >> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from >> Microsoft >> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP >> installation: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >> >> NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery >> installs. >> >> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >> >> Related: >> >> Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet >> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >> >> Security FAQ & Checklist >> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8463 >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >> >> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>> SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any of >>> the >>> updates release prior to SP2. >>> >>> "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >>>> answer. >>>> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service >>>> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it says >>>> to >>>> install all Windows updates and service packs before installing chipset >>>> drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem >>>> with >>>> my >>>> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so I >>>> cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and >>>> installed >>>> it >>>> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers >>>> and >>>> installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports >>>> magically >>>> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >>>> prior >>>> updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes >>>> everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my >>>> ethernet >>>> ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first >>>> (if >>>> they're not included in SP2). >>>> >>>> Thanks!!
Guest Alan Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 PA Bear, Does this mean that if I ever want to do a clean install on one of my older XP machines that shipped with the XP Gold CD -- and I didn't slipstream SP2 into it -- that I'll have to first install just XP Gold and then have to use either of the two methods described in KB943144, before I'm able to install SP2? Or am I not correctly understanding? Alan "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e0QzMJWjIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "Because the registry files that correspond to the Wups2.dll file are > missing, update installations are unsuccessful." (Source: KB943144) > > Alan wrote: >> Hi Pa Bear, >> >> I'm not doubting you when you say "NB: Also applies to clean installs, >> upgrade installs, and Recovery installs." >> >> But I'm wondering why there would be ANY leftover files to cause >> conflicts >> from a prior installation, if a user does a clean install and is >> basically >> starting an XP installation on a newly-formatted hard drive. >> >> Alan >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:uEDmbHQjIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> And as soon as you have SP2 installed, see this KB article which should >>> help make Automatic Update functional: >>> >>> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from >>> Microsoft >>> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP >>> installation: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >>> >>> NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery >>> installs. >>> >>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP: >>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >>> >>> Related: >>> >>> Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet >>> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >>> >>> Security FAQ & Checklist >>> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8463 >>> -- >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >>> >>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>> SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any of >>>> the >>>> updates release prior to SP2. >>>> >>>> "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >>>>> answer. >>>>> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service >>>>> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it >>>>> says >>>>> to >>>>> install all Windows updates and service packs before installing >>>>> chipset >>>>> drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem >>>>> with >>>>> my >>>>> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so >>>>> I >>>>> cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and >>>>> installed >>>>> it >>>>> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers >>>>> and >>>>> installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports >>>>> magically >>>>> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >>>>> prior >>>>> updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes >>>>> everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my >>>>> ethernet >>>>> ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first >>>>> (if >>>>> they're not included in SP2). >>>>> >>>>> Thanks!! >
Guest smlunatick Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 On Mar 24, 9:10 am, "Alan" <somewh...@nospam.not> wrote: > PA Bear, > > Does this mean that if I ever want to do a clean install on one of my older > XP machines that shipped with the XP Gold CD -- and I didn't slipstream SP2 > into it -- that I'll have to first install just XP Gold and then have to use > either of the two methods described in KB943144, before I'm able to install > SP2? > > Or am I not correctly understanding? > > Alan > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:e0QzMJWjIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > > > > "Because the registry files that correspond to the Wups2.dll file are > > missing, update installations are unsuccessful." (Source: KB943144) > > > Alan wrote: > >> Hi Pa Bear, > > >> I'm not doubting you when you say "NB: Also applies to clean installs, > >> upgrade installs, and Recovery installs." > > >> But I'm wondering why there would be ANY leftover files to cause > >> conflicts > >> from a prior installation, if a user does a clean install and is > >> basically > >> starting an XP installation on a newly-formatted hard drive. > > >> Alan > > >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >>news:uEDmbHQjIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > >>> And as soon as you have SP2 installed, see this KB article which should > >>> help make Automatic Update functional: > > >>> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from > >>> Microsoft > >>> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP > >>> installation: > >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 > > >>> NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery > >>> installs. > > >>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP: > >>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 > > >>> Related: > > >>> Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet > >>>http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html > > >>> Security FAQ & Checklist > >>>http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8463 > >>> -- > >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 > >>> AumHa VSOP & Adminhttp://aumha.net > >>> DTS-Lhttp://dts-l.net/ > > >>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: > >>>> SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any of > >>>> the > >>>> updates release prior to SP2. > > >>>> "bcags7" <bca...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >>>>news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... > >>>>> Hello, > > >>>>> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear > >>>>> answer. > >>>>> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service > >>>>> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it > >>>>> says > >>>>> to > >>>>> install all Windows updates and service packs before installing > >>>>> chipset > >>>>> drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem > >>>>> with > >>>>> my > >>>>> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so > >>>>> I > >>>>> cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and > >>>>> installed > >>>>> it > >>>>> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with drivers > >>>>> and > >>>>> installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports > >>>>> magically > >>>>> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all > >>>>> prior > >>>>> updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it includes > >>>>> everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my > >>>>> ethernet > >>>>> ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first > >>>>> (if > >>>>> they're not included in SP2). > > >>>>> Thanks!!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Normally, you can download the complete SP2 install files and place them on a CD. No, you do not have to follow the KB article. You are suggest to: 1) Start the XP firewall 2) Install an anti-virus system 3) Install SP2 and then follow the KB article. (The sequence can be changed for steps 2 and 3.) Also, once you have finished the SP2 install, do a Windows Update. NOTE: Ignore SP3 for now! It is still in test phases and not released as a general update to the public.
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 No. In such a case, you'd need to repeat the same steps I gave you in an earlier reply to this thread: (1) Download/install SP2 manually, (2) do either method in KB943144* in order to be able to use Windows/Automatic Update(s) to (3) install all other post-SP2 updates including SP3 (after it's been released). *Note that about 2 years after the release of SP3, support for SP2 will end. Assuming no big changes in the updating mechanism, you'll probably need to (1) install SP3 right of the bat and then (2) jump through either the same hoops in KB943144 or a later KB article that replaces it, in order to be able to use Windows/Automatic Updates to (3) install all post-SP3 updates. -- ~PA Bear Alan wrote: > PA Bear, > > Does this mean that if I ever want to do a clean install on one of my > older > XP machines that shipped with the XP Gold CD -- and I didn't slipstream > SP2 > into it -- that I'll have to first install just XP Gold and then have to > use > either of the two methods described in KB943144, before I'm able to > install > SP2? > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:e0QzMJWjIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> "Because the registry files that correspond to the Wups2.dll file are >> missing, update installations are unsuccessful." (Source: KB943144) >> >> Alan wrote: >>> Hi Pa Bear, >>> >>> I'm not doubting you when you say "NB: Also applies to clean installs, >>> upgrade installs, and Recovery installs." >>> >>> But I'm wondering why there would be ANY leftover files to cause >>> conflicts >>> from a prior installation, if a user does a clean install and is >>> basically >>> starting an XP installation on a newly-formatted hard drive. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:uEDmbHQjIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>> And as soon as you have SP2 installed, see this KB article which should >>>> help make Automatic Update functional: >>>> >>>> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from >>>> Microsoft >>>> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP >>>> installation: >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >>>> >>>> NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery >>>> installs. >>>> >>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP: >>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >>>> >>>> Related: >>>> >>>> Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet >>>> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >>>> >>>> Security FAQ & Checklist >>>> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8463 >>>> -- >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >>>> >>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>>> SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any of >>>>> the >>>>> updates release prior to SP2. >>>>> >>>>> "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >>>>>> answer. >>>>>> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no service >>>>>> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it >>>>>> says >>>>>> to >>>>>> install all Windows updates and service packs before installing >>>>>> chipset >>>>>> drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem >>>>>> with >>>>>> my >>>>>> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, so >>>>>> I >>>>>> cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and >>>>>> installed >>>>>> it >>>>>> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with >>>>>> drivers >>>>>> and >>>>>> installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports >>>>>> magically >>>>>> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >>>>>> prior >>>>>> updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it >>>>>> includes >>>>>> everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my >>>>>> ethernet >>>>>> ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates first >>>>>> (if >>>>>> they're not included in SP2). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks!!
Guest Alan Posted March 24, 2008 Posted March 24, 2008 Re: XP install and SP2 smlunatick and PA Bear, I understand now. Thank you. Alan "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:u0BqgkdjIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > No. In such a case, you'd need to repeat the same steps I gave you in an > earlier reply to this thread: (1) Download/install SP2 manually, (2) do > either method in KB943144* in order to be able to use Windows/Automatic > Update(s) to (3) install all other post-SP2 updates including SP3 (after > it's been released). > > *Note that about 2 years after the release of SP3, support for SP2 will > end. Assuming no big changes in the updating mechanism, you'll probably > need to (1) install SP3 right of the bat and then (2) jump through either > the same hoops in KB943144 or a later KB article that replaces it, in > order to be able to use Windows/Automatic Updates to (3) install all > post-SP3 updates. > -- > ~PA Bear > > > Alan wrote: >> PA Bear, >> >> Does this mean that if I ever want to do a clean install on one of my >> older >> XP machines that shipped with the XP Gold CD -- and I didn't slipstream >> SP2 >> into it -- that I'll have to first install just XP Gold and then have to >> use >> either of the two methods described in KB943144, before I'm able to >> install >> SP2? >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:e0QzMJWjIHA.4396@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> "Because the registry files that correspond to the Wups2.dll file are >>> missing, update installations are unsuccessful." (Source: KB943144) >>> >>> Alan wrote: >>>> Hi Pa Bear, >>>> >>>> I'm not doubting you when you say "NB: Also applies to clean installs, >>>> upgrade installs, and Recovery installs." >>>> >>>> But I'm wondering why there would be ANY leftover files to cause >>>> conflicts >>>> from a prior installation, if a user does a clean install and is >>>> basically >>>> starting an XP installation on a newly-formatted hard drive. >>>> >>>> Alan >>>> >>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uEDmbHQjIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>>>> And as soon as you have SP2 installed, see this KB article which >>>>> should >>>>> help make Automatic Update functional: >>>>> >>>>> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from >>>>> Microsoft >>>>> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP >>>>> installation: >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144 >>>>> >>>>> NB: Also applies to clean installs, upgrade installs, and Recovery >>>>> installs. >>>>> >>>>> How to configure and use Automatic Updates in WinXP: >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525 >>>>> >>>>> Related: >>>>> >>>>> Before You Connect a New Computer to the Internet >>>>> http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/before_you_plug_in.html >>>>> >>>>> Security FAQ & Checklist >>>>> http://www.dslreports.com/faq/8463 >>>>> -- >>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002 >>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net >>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/ >>>>> >>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>>>> SP2 includes everything you need. You do not need SP1 first or any >>>>>> of >>>>>> the >>>>>> updates release prior to SP2. >>>>>> >>>>>> "bcags7" <bcags7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:76EC9AF3-73C7-4157-A7DE-D1AD481DB073@microsoft.com... >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This may be a dumb question, but I haven't been able to find a clear >>>>>>> answer. >>>>>>> I'm building a new PC and I've installed Win XP (original, no >>>>>>> service >>>>>>> packs). I'm trying to follow along in the motherboard manual - it >>>>>>> says >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> install all Windows updates and service packs before installing >>>>>>> chipset >>>>>>> drivers, etc...For some reason, and I think this is a common problem >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> particular motherboard, my onboard ethernet ports are not working, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> cannot install any updates. I have, however, downloaded SP2 and >>>>>>> installed >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> just to see what happens. After hours of screwing around with >>>>>>> drivers >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> installing a PCI NIC card (which didn't work), the ethernet ports >>>>>>> magically >>>>>>> began working. Anyway, I guess my question is, does SP2 include all >>>>>>> prior >>>>>>> updates that get downloaded with Automatic Updates? I know it >>>>>>> includes >>>>>>> everything from SP1...Just wondering if I somehow need to get my >>>>>>> ethernet >>>>>>> ports working before installing SP2 in order to install updates >>>>>>> first >>>>>>> (if >>>>>>> they're not included in SP2). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks!! >
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