Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

[Guest Peter Olcott]

Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

I do any Windows updates.

 

Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

of the print dialogbox is pressed.

 

I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

be causing this?

[Guest Shenan Stanley]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

Peter Olcott wrote:

> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

> I do any Windows updates.

>

> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>

> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

> be causing this?

 

You installing the latest printer driver for this 'not yet revealed

make/model printer' device (that you obtain from the printer's hardware

manufacturers' web page.)?

 

With all this supposed 'installation' - why have you not integrated SP2 and

most post-sp2 updates into your installation media?

 

--

Shenan Stanley

MS-MVP

--

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

[Guest Peter Olcott]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

 

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Peter Olcott wrote:

>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>> Pro

>> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer

>> the

>> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

>> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine

>> before

>> I do any Windows updates.

>>

>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>> test

>> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>> (instead

>> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item

>> is

>> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

>> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print]

>> button

>> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>

>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>> for

>> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

>> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What

>> could

>> be causing this?

>

> You installing the latest printer driver for this 'not yet

> revealed make/model printer' device (that you obtain from

> the printer's hardware manufacturers' web page.)?

>

> With all this supposed 'installation' - why have you not

> integrated SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into your

> installation media?

>

 

(1) My installatin media does not already have SP2.

(2) I don't know how to integrate it into my installation

media.

(3) The SP2 upgrade seems to be the root cause of the

problem.

> --

> Shenan Stanley

> MS-MVP

> --

> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

[Guest Shenan Stanley]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

Peter Olcott wrote:

> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

> I do any Windows updates.

>

> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>

> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

> be causing this?

 

Shenan Stanley wrote:

> You installing the latest printer driver for this 'not yet revealed

> make/model printer' device (that you obtain from the printer's

> hardware manufacturers' web page.)?

>

> With all this supposed 'installation' - why have you not integrated

> SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into your installation media?

 

Peter Olcott wrote:

> (1) My installatin media does not already have SP2.

> (2) I don't know how to integrate it into my installation

> media.

> (3) The SP2 upgrade seems to be the root cause of the

> problem.

 

1) You already pointed that out and it is the reason for the very question I

asked... "why have you not integrated SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into

your installation media?"

 

2) Google. You now know the terminology if you did not know it before.

There are even tools that do all the work for you - so technical knowledge

needed is limited to downloading and installing applications, putting in a

CD and perhaps burning a new CD. It never hurts to learn something new -

especally (such as it seems in your case) if it might help simplify your

life.

 

3) Doubtful - thus my inference that you have not given near enough

information to properly troubleshoot your issue. Answer these two

previously inferred questions (inferred in hopes you would either provide

the information or figure out what you were missing):

 

- What printer is this? Exact Make and Model number please...

- Have you downloaded the latest software for the printer as well as the

latest firmware?

 

Windows XP Service Pack 2 has been out for what is quickly approaching 4

years. It has not and is not going to change. If it is doing something to

you and your system setup - it has something to do with some unique

component of your system. It could be as simple as needing the most current

hardware driver for something (motherboard chipset, the actual printer

itself, etc) or 'as complicated as' needing a firmware/BIOS upgrade for your

printer/motherboard.

 

However - without specifics on the printer make/model and whether or not

this worked previously and whether or not you have tried anything other than

a clean installation (tried hooking the printer up to another machine that

already has Windows XP with SP2? Tried hooking it up using a different

connection type (USB?)) - we are shooting in the dark here. Only you can

see your computer and the symptoms you are getting - for me - the whole

scene has to be described by you. ;-)

 

--

Shenan Stanley

MS-MVP

--

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

[Guest nass]

RE: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

 

 

"Peter Olcott" wrote:

> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

> I do any Windows updates.

>

> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>

> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

> be causing this?

 

Did you check to see if your Anti-virus blocking the Printer?.

Try to Reinstall, install the Updates including SP2, Get the latest Driver

for the Printer from the Manufacturer of the Printer and turn your AVs OFF

and Install the printer Software, does this help in overcoming this issue?.

Read this Old thread here:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax/browse_thread/thread/b7d9aed2dc3b5a25/20a2ee9002eef812%2320a2ee9002eef812

HTH.

nass

----

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[Guest Ragab]

RE: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

What is the model of the Printer exactly?

--

Ragab

 

 

"Peter Olcott" wrote:

> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

> I do any Windows updates.

>

> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>

> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

> be causing this?

>

>

>

[Guest Jordan]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

Peter,

 

I would be interested in knowing the printer model as well because I just

had someone complain that all of a sudden their HP printer just started

printing rediculously slow. I know that the only thing I have done in the

last few days is approve some old windows updates so I would be interested

in knowing if this was a cause.

 

P.S. Shenan,

in my last bunch of computers the XP cds are now shipping with SP2c which

will no longer take SP2 or earlier key codes.

 

 

 

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:O2rjrxajIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Peter Olcott wrote:

>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

>> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

>> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

>> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

>> I do any Windows updates.

>>

>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

>> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

>> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

>> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

>> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

>> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>

>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

>> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

>> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

>> be causing this?

>

> Shenan Stanley wrote:

>> You installing the latest printer driver for this 'not yet revealed

>> make/model printer' device (that you obtain from the printer's

>> hardware manufacturers' web page.)?

>>

>> With all this supposed 'installation' - why have you not integrated

>> SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into your installation media?

>

> Peter Olcott wrote:

>> (1) My installatin media does not already have SP2.

>> (2) I don't know how to integrate it into my installation

>> media.

>> (3) The SP2 upgrade seems to be the root cause of the

>> problem.

>

> 1) You already pointed that out and it is the reason for the very question

> I asked... "why have you not integrated SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into

> your installation media?"

>

> 2) Google. You now know the terminology if you did not know it before.

> There are even tools that do all the work for you - so technical knowledge

> needed is limited to downloading and installing applications, putting in a

> CD and perhaps burning a new CD. It never hurts to learn something new -

> especally (such as it seems in your case) if it might help simplify your

> life.

>

> 3) Doubtful - thus my inference that you have not given near enough

> information to properly troubleshoot your issue. Answer these two

> previously inferred questions (inferred in hopes you would either provide

> the information or figure out what you were missing):

>

> - What printer is this? Exact Make and Model number please...

> - Have you downloaded the latest software for the printer as well as the

> latest firmware?

>

> Windows XP Service Pack 2 has been out for what is quickly approaching 4

> years. It has not and is not going to change. If it is doing something

> to you and your system setup - it has something to do with some unique

> component of your system. It could be as simple as needing the most

> current hardware driver for something (motherboard chipset, the actual

> printer itself, etc) or 'as complicated as' needing a firmware/BIOS

> upgrade for your printer/motherboard.

>

> However - without specifics on the printer make/model and whether or not

> this worked previously and whether or not you have tried anything other

> than a clean installation (tried hooking the printer up to another machine

> that already has Windows XP with SP2? Tried hooking it up using a

> different connection type (USB?)) - we are shooting in the dark here.

> Only you can see your computer and the symptoms you are getting - for me -

> the whole scene has to be described by you. ;-)

>

> --

> Shenan Stanley

> MS-MVP

> --

> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

>

[Guest Bill Sharpe]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

Peter Olcott wrote:

> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

> I do any Windows updates.

>

> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>

> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

> be causing this?

>

>

Is this an HP printer? I have an HP all-in-one and I had to get updated

drivers plus updated print software from HP to enable printing after

either a .NET change or an MS update (don't remember which. The problem

was more serious than taking a long time to start printing; I could not

print at all.

 

Bill

[Guest Peter Olcott]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

 

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:O2rjrxajIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Peter Olcott wrote:

>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>> Pro

>> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer

>> the

>> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

>> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine

>> before

>> I do any Windows updates.

>>

>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>> test

>> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>> (instead

>> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item

>> is

>> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

>> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print]

>> button

>> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>

>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>> for

>> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

>> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What

>> could

>> be causing this?

>

> Shenan Stanley wrote:

>> You installing the latest printer driver for this 'not

>> yet revealed

>> make/model printer' device (that you obtain from the

>> printer's

>> hardware manufacturers' web page.)?

>>

>> With all this supposed 'installation' - why have you not

>> integrated

>> SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into your installation

>> media?

>

> Peter Olcott wrote:

>> (1) My installatin media does not already have SP2.

>> (2) I don't know how to integrate it into my installation

>> media.

>> (3) The SP2 upgrade seems to be the root cause of the

>> problem.

>

> 1) You already pointed that out and it is the reason for

> the very question I asked... "why have you not integrated

> SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into your installation

> media?"

>

> 2) Google. You now know the terminology if you did not

> know it before. There are even tools that do all the work

> for you - so technical knowledge needed is limited to

> downloading and installing applications, putting in a CD

> and perhaps burning a new CD. It never hurts to learn

> something new - especally (such as it seems in your case)

> if it might help simplify your life.

 

I have spent over 80 hours on this so far, I have no more

patience for the hit and miss (trial and error) method of

solving this problem.

>

> 3) Doubtful - thus my inference that you have not given

> near enough information to properly troubleshoot your

> issue. Answer these two previously inferred questions

> (inferred in hopes you would either provide the

> information or figure out what you were missing):

>

Everything works fine before SP2 update, printer does not

work properly after SP2 update (and nothing at all else)

hence SP2 update caused the problem.

> - What printer is this? Exact Make and Model number

> please...

> - Have you downloaded the latest software for the printer

> as well as the latest firmware?

 

It is an HP LJ2100, no I have not downloaded the latest

firmware, I have installed the latest driver.

>

> Windows XP Service Pack 2 has been out for what is quickly

> approaching 4 years. It has not and is not going to

> change. If it is doing something to you and your system

> setup - it has something to do with some unique component

> of your system. It could be as simple as needing the most

> current hardware driver for something (motherboard

> chipset, the actual printer itself, etc) or 'as

> complicated as' needing a firmware/BIOS upgrade for your

> printer/motherboard.

 

The printer/properties/ports works differently on the

machine that does not work, all the buttons are disabled.

The parameters of the network port are also different, and

it won't let me change them.

>

> However - without specifics on the printer make/model and

> whether or not this worked previously and whether or not

> you have tried anything other than

 

It has worked perfectly well for four years until I needed

to reinstall windows from scratch to fix a corrupted OutLook

Express. I used the same disk as the original install on the

same machine as the original install.

> a clean installation (tried hooking the printer up to

> another machine that already has Windows XP with SP2?

> Tried hooking it up using a different connection type

> (USB?)) - we are shooting in the dark here. Only you can

> see your computer and the symptoms you are getting - for

> me - the whole scene has to be described by you. ;-)

 

On another identical computer that still has the corrupted

OutLook Express, the printer works perfectly well. Identical

computers, and identical install disks, bother are hooked to

the same network and printer.

>

> --

> Shenan Stanley

> MS-MVP

> --

> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>

[Guest Peter Olcott]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

 

"nass" <nass@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>

>

> "Peter Olcott" wrote:

>

>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>> Pro

>> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer

>> the

>> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

>> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine

>> before

>> I do any Windows updates.

>>

>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>> test

>> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>> (instead

>> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item

>> is

>> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

>> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print]

>> button

>> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>

>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>> for

>> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

>> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What

>> could

>> be causing this?

>

> Did you check to see if your Anti-virus blocking the

> Printer?.

 

Anti Virus was not installed.

> Try to Reinstall, install the Updates including SP2, Get

> the latest Driver

> for the Printer from the Manufacturer of the Printer and

> turn your AVs OFF

> and Install the printer Software, does this help in

> overcoming this issue?.

> Read this Old thread here:

> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.print_fax/browse_thread/thread/b7d9aed2dc3b5a25/20a2ee9002eef812%2320a2ee9002eef812

> HTH.

> nass

> ----

> http://www.nasstec.co.uk

[Guest Peter Olcott]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

HP LJ 2100

 

"Ragab" <Ragab@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:48234054-BF45-4BB6-AED7-2B8E642F9AB0@microsoft.com...

> What is the model of the Printer exactly?

> --

> Ragab

>

>

> "Peter Olcott" wrote:

>

>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>> Pro

>> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer

>> the

>> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

>> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine

>> before

>> I do any Windows updates.

>>

>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>> test

>> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>> (instead

>> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item

>> is

>> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

>> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print]

>> button

>> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>

>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>> for

>> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

>> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What

>> could

>> be causing this?

>>

>>

>>

[Guest Peter Olcott]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

 

"Jordan" <none@here.com> wrote in message

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> Peter,

>

> I would be interested in knowing the printer model as well

> because I just had someone complain that all of a sudden

> their HP printer just started printing rediculously slow.

> I know that the only thing I have done in the last few

> days is approve some old windows updates so I would be

> interested in knowing if this was a cause.

>

> P.S. Shenan,

> in my last bunch of computers the XP cds are now shipping

> with SP2c which will no longer take SP2 or earlier key

> codes.

>

>

It does not print slow, it take 45 seconds for the print

dialogbox to appear, and another 45 seconds for the print

job to start after the [print] button of the print dialogbox

is pressed. Then it prints fine.

>

> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:O2rjrxajIHA.2396@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Peter Olcott wrote:

>>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted

>>> hard-drive,

>>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>>> Pro

>>> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer

>>> the

>>> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

>>> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine

>>> before

>>> I do any Windows updates.

>>>

>>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>>> test

>>> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>>> (instead

>>> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item

>>> is

>>> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

>>> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print]

>>> button

>>> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>>

>>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>>> for

>>> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly

>>> formatted

>>> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What

>>> could

>>> be causing this?

>>

>> Shenan Stanley wrote:

>>> You installing the latest printer driver for this 'not

>>> yet revealed

>>> make/model printer' device (that you obtain from the

>>> printer's

>>> hardware manufacturers' web page.)?

>>>

>>> With all this supposed 'installation' - why have you not

>>> integrated

>>> SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into your installation

>>> media?

>>

>> Peter Olcott wrote:

>>> (1) My installatin media does not already have SP2.

>>> (2) I don't know how to integrate it into my

>>> installation

>>> media.

>>> (3) The SP2 upgrade seems to be the root cause of the

>>> problem.

>>

>> 1) You already pointed that out and it is the reason for

>> the very question I asked... "why have you not integrated

>> SP2 and most post-sp2 updates into your installation

>> media?"

>>

>> 2) Google. You now know the terminology if you did not

>> know it before. There are even tools that do all the work

>> for you - so technical knowledge needed is limited to

>> downloading and installing applications, putting in a CD

>> and perhaps burning a new CD. It never hurts to learn

>> something new - especally (such as it seems in your case)

>> if it might help simplify your life.

>>

>> 3) Doubtful - thus my inference that you have not given

>> near enough information to properly troubleshoot your

>> issue. Answer these two previously inferred questions

>> (inferred in hopes you would either provide the

>> information or figure out what you were missing):

>>

>> - What printer is this? Exact Make and Model number

>> please...

>> - Have you downloaded the latest software for the

>> printer as well as the latest firmware?

>>

>> Windows XP Service Pack 2 has been out for what is

>> quickly approaching 4 years. It has not and is not going

>> to change. If it is doing something to you and your

>> system setup - it has something to do with some unique

>> component of your system. It could be as simple as

>> needing the most current hardware driver for something

>> (motherboard chipset, the actual printer itself, etc) or

>> 'as complicated as' needing a firmware/BIOS upgrade for

>> your printer/motherboard.

>>

>> However - without specifics on the printer make/model and

>> whether or not this worked previously and whether or not

>> you have tried anything other than a clean installation

>> (tried hooking the printer up to another machine that

>> already has Windows XP with SP2? Tried hooking it up

>> using a different connection type (USB?)) - we are

>> shooting in the dark here. Only you can see your computer

>> and the symptoms you are getting - for me - the whole

>> scene has to be described by you. ;-)

>>

>> --

>> Shenan Stanley

>> MS-MVP

>> --

>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

>>

>>

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[Guest Peter Olcott]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

 

"Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message

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> Peter Olcott wrote:

>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>> Pro on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the

>> computer the the network's printer using the [Printers

>> and Faxes] dialogbox. Everything (including printing)

>> works fine before I do any Windows updates.

>>

>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>> test again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>> (instead of about 1 second) to come up when the [print]

>> menu item is selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds

>> (instead of about 1 second) to begin printing after the

>> [print] button of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>

>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>> for the last six weeks. I always start with a newly

>> formatted hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP

>> Pro. What could be causing this?

> Is this an HP printer? I have an HP all-in-one and I had

> to get updated drivers plus updated print software from HP

> to enable printing after either a .NET change or an MS

> update (don't remember which. The problem was more serious

> than taking a long time to start printing; I could not

> print at all.

>

> Bill

 

It is an HP LJ 2100, maybe it seemed like it didn't print at

all because the used killed the job before it finally got

around to working.

[Guest Bill Sharpe]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

Peter Olcott wrote:

> "Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message

> news:ufSc9TfjIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Peter Olcott wrote:

>>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>>> Pro on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the

>>> computer the the network's printer using the [Printers

>>> and Faxes] dialogbox. Everything (including printing)

>>> works fine before I do any Windows updates.

>>>

>>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>>> test again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>>> (instead of about 1 second) to come up when the [print]

>>> menu item is selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds

>>> (instead of about 1 second) to begin printing after the

>>> [print] button of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>>

>>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>>> for the last six weeks. I always start with a newly

>>> formatted hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP

>>> Pro. What could be causing this?

>> Is this an HP printer? I have an HP all-in-one and I had

>> to get updated drivers plus updated print software from HP

>> to enable printing after either a .NET change or an MS

>> update (don't remember which. The problem was more serious

>> than taking a long time to start printing; I could not

>> print at all.

>>

>> Bill

>

> It is an HP LJ 2100, maybe it seemed like it didn't print at

> all because the used killed the job before it finally got

> around to working.

>

>

Not true. I couldn't even get to a print dialog box.

 

Bill

[Guest Bill Sharpe]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

Peter Olcott wrote:

> "Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message

> news:ufSc9TfjIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Peter Olcott wrote:

>>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>>> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP

>>> Pro on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the

>>> computer the the network's printer using the [Printers

>>> and Faxes] dialogbox. Everything (including printing)

>>> works fine before I do any Windows updates.

>>>

>>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>>> test again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>>> (instead of about 1 second) to come up when the [print]

>>> menu item is selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds

>>> (instead of about 1 second) to begin printing after the

>>> [print] button of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>>>

>>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times

>>> for the last six weeks. I always start with a newly

>>> formatted hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP

>>> Pro. What could be causing this?

>> Is this an HP printer? I have an HP all-in-one and I had

>> to get updated drivers plus updated print software from HP

>> to enable printing after either a .NET change or an MS

>> update (don't remember which. The problem was more serious

>> than taking a long time to start printing; I could not

>> print at all.

>>

>> Bill

>

> It is an HP LJ 2100, maybe it seemed like it didn't print at

> all because the used killed the job before it finally got

> around to working.

>

>

Check HP support here:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=14914&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=25469&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=228

to see if your print driver needs updating and to download latest drivers.

Note that the link may wrap in your e-mail. If so, you may have to

remove any line feeds that occur when you try to copy and paste.

 

Bill

[Guest Paul]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

Peter Olcott wrote:

> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted hard-drive,

> always results in this same thing: I install Windows XP Pro

> on a newly formatted hard-drive, and attach the computer the

> the network's printer using the [Printers and Faxes]

> dialogbox. Everything (including printing) works fine before

> I do any Windows updates.

>

> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and test

> again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds (instead

> of about 1 second) to come up when the [print] menu item is

> selected, and the print job takes 45 seconds (instead of

> about 1 second) to begin printing after the [print] button

> of the print dialogbox is pressed.

>

> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many times for

> the last six weeks. I always start with a newly formatted

> hard-drive and a fresh install of Windows XP Pro. What could

> be causing this?

>

>

 

Have you tried watching network activity on the affected machine ?

Use something like "Wireshark", and see if there is a network

component to your problem.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireshark

 

I'm no IT guy, but a long delay implies failures and

timeouts of some sort. A reproducible delay would not

just be inserted for fun, and some invisible dependency

is being satisfied. Perhaps watching what network traffic

is emitted by the machine, will offer a clue, as to which

service or share is at fault.

 

Paul

[Guest Peter Olcott]

Re: Windows update causes printer to stop working correctly

 

 

"Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message

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> Peter Olcott wrote:

>> "Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@adelphia.net> wrote in message

>> news:ufSc9TfjIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Peter Olcott wrote:

>>>> Fresh install of windows on a newly formatted

>>>> hard-drive, always results in this same thing: I

>>>> install Windows XP Pro on a newly formatted hard-drive,

>>>> and attach the computer the the network's printer using

>>>> the [Printers and Faxes] dialogbox. Everything

>>>> (including printing) works fine before I do any Windows

>>>> updates.

>>>>

>>>> Then I do all the windows updates (including SP2) and

>>>> test again, now, the print dialogbox, takes 45 seconds

>>>> (instead of about 1 second) to come up when the [print]

>>>> menu item is selected, and the print job takes 45

>>>> seconds (instead of about 1 second) to begin printing

>>>> after the [print] button of the print dialogbox is

>>>> pressed.

>>>>

>>>> I have tried this same sequence over-and-over many

>>>> times for the last six weeks. I always start with a

>>>> newly formatted hard-drive and a fresh install of

>>>> Windows XP Pro. What could be causing this?

>>> Is this an HP printer? I have an HP all-in-one and I had

>>> to get updated drivers plus updated print software from

>>> HP to enable printing after either a .NET change or an

>>> MS update (don't remember which. The problem was more

>>> serious than taking a long time to start printing; I

>>> could not print at all.

>>>

>>> Bill

>>

>> It is an HP LJ 2100, maybe it seemed like it didn't print

>> at all because the used killed the job before it finally

>> got around to working.

> Check HP support here:

> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=14914&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=25469&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=228

> to see if your print driver needs updating and to download

> latest drivers.

> Note that the link may wrap in your e-mail. If so, you may

> have to remove any line feeds that occur when you try to

> copy and paste.

>

> Bill

 

I used the latest driver to start with.