BIG Problem

[Guest שמואל]

I installed the Unofficial Windows 98 patches.

 

Now the computer does not go into Windows, not normal nor Safe Mode. I get a

fatal exception error at 0187 (or (0167):BFF9E0BF.

 

I can also sometimes see an error in VXD VWIN32(05).

 

Can someone help me get the computer to work again?

 

I couldn't reinstall Windows 98 from a CD either. Setup thinks (wrongly)

that disk commpression is used.

 

Thank you.

[Guest philo]

Re: BIG Problem

 

 

"?????" <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:130EBCAA-321B-479E-B07F-75C91C90A786@microsoft.com...

> I installed the Unofficial Windows 98 patches.

>

> Now the computer does not go into Windows, not normal nor Safe Mode. I get

a

> fatal exception error at 0187 (or (0167):BFF9E0BF.

>

> I can also sometimes see an error in VXD VWIN32(05).

>

> Can someone help me get the computer to work again?

>

> I couldn't reinstall Windows 98 from a CD either. Setup thinks (wrongly)

> that disk commpression is used.

>

> Thank you.

>

 

Hello:

 

Although the unofficial service pack is made from official releases and

should not have caused a problem...

obviously it did.

 

The "compression" problem you experienced was probably caused by using the

wrong boot disk

when you tried to reinstall Win98.

 

There are several things you can do here.

 

1) go to http://www.bootdisk.com and get a boot disk from the *exact* version of

windows that you are using

 

2) delete the compression driver (drivespace.bin) from your boot disk

and/or from the root directory of your current system

 

For example, if you try to boot your machine, hit F8 and select command

prompt

 

then cd\ C:

 

now simply try C:\ del *.bin

 

 

3) One other thing I just thought of that you might want to try before a

reinstall...

from the command prompt try scanreg /restore and restore the registry

to a date prior to the installation of the undates

 

....

that might work

[Guest שמואל]

Re: BIG Problem

 

Thank you for your quick response.

 

"philo" wrote:

> Although the unofficial service pack is made from official releases and

> should not have caused a problem...

> obviously it did.

>

> The "compression" problem you experienced was probably caused by using the

> wrong boot disk

> when you tried to reinstall Win98.

>

> There are several things you can do here.

>

> 1) go to http://www.bootdisk.com and get a boot disk from the *exact* version of

> windows that you are using

>

> 2) delete the compression driver (drivespace.bin) from your boot disk

> and/or from the root directory of your current system

>

> For example, if you try to boot your machine, hit F8 and select command

> prompt

>

> then cd\ C:

>

> now simply try C:\ del *.bin

>

>

> 3) One other thing I just thought of that you might want to try before a

> reinstall...

> from the command prompt try scanreg /restore and restore the registry

> to a date prior to the installation of the undates

 

I tried scanreg /restore twice. It didn't solve the problem.

 

How do I find out the exact version of Windows that is installed? I though

that I was using the correct CD, but it is possible that I didn't.

 

Can I reinstall Windows without loosing all the configuration info? That

would be VERY helpful.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: BIG Problem

 

Which unofficial patch. Where did you get it from?

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"שמואל" <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:130EBCAA-321B-479E-B07F-75C91C90A786@microsoft.com...

>I installed the Unofficial Windows 98 patches.

>

> Now the computer does not go into Windows, not normal nor Safe Mode. I get

> a

> fatal exception error at 0187 (or (0167):BFF9E0BF.

>

> I can also sometimes see an error in VXD VWIN32(05).

>

> Can someone help me get the computer to work again?

>

> I couldn't reinstall Windows 98 from a CD either. Setup thinks (wrongly)

> that disk commpression is used.

>

> Thank you.

>

[Guest שמואל]

Re: BIG Problem

 

http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

 

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Which unofficial patch. Where did you get it from?

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "שמואל" <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:130EBCAA-321B-479E-B07F-75C91C90A786@microsoft.com...

> >I installed the Unofficial Windows 98 patches.

> >

> > Now the computer does not go into Windows, not normal nor Safe Mode. I get

> > a

> > fatal exception error at 0187 (or (0167):BFF9E0BF.

> >

> > I can also sometimes see an error in VXD VWIN32(05).

> >

> > Can someone help me get the computer to work again?

> >

> > I couldn't reinstall Windows 98 from a CD either. Setup thinks (wrongly)

> > that disk commpression is used.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

>

>

[Guest שמואל]

Re: BIG Problem

 

 

 

"philo" wrote:

> Although the unofficial service pack is made from official releases and

> should not have caused a problem...

> obviously it did.

>

> The "compression" problem you experienced was probably caused by using the

> wrong boot disk

> when you tried to reinstall Win98.

>

> There are several things you can do here.

>

> 1) go to http://www.bootdisk.com and get a boot disk from the *exact* version of

> windows that you are using

>

> 2) delete the compression driver (drivespace.bin) from your boot disk

> and/or from the root directory of your current system

>

> For example, if you try to boot your machine, hit F8 and select command

> prompt

>

> then cd\ C:

>

> now simply try C:\ del *.bin

 

I just checked, there are no .bin files on C:

[Guest Fan924]

Re: BIG Problem

 

> How do I find out the exact version of Windows that is installed? I though

> that I was using the correct CD, but it is possible that I didn't.

 

The service pack is for 98SE. Is your disk also for 98SE?

[Guest שמואל]

Re: BIG Problem

 

"Fan924" wrote:

> > How do I find out the exact version of Windows that is installed? I though

> > that I was using the correct CD, but it is possible that I didn't.

>

> The service pack is for 98SE. Is your disk also for 98SE?

 

I know that the service pack is for SE. Yes, I have a CD of SE. The problem

now is that I'm not sure that SE is what was installed on the computer.

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: BIG Problem

 

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:40:01 -0700, ????? <@discussions.microsoft.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>"Fan924" wrote:

>

>> > How do I find out the exact version of Windows that is installed? I though

>> > that I was using the correct CD, but it is possible that I didn't.

>>

>> The service pack is for 98SE. Is your disk also for 98SE?

>

>I know that the service pack is for SE. Yes, I have a CD of SE. The problem

>now is that I'm not sure that SE is what was installed on the computer.

 

Boot from a startup disc and type ...

 

dir c:\command.com

 

For Win98SE you should see something like this:

 

========================================================

Volume in drive C is FUJ_WIN98SE

Volume Serial Number is 11E8-163A

Directory of C:\

 

COMMAND COM 93,890 04-23-99 10:22p COMMAND.COM

1 file(s) 93,890 bytes

========================================================

 

You can also get to the same point by hitting the F8 key during bootup

and booting to the command prompt.

 

For "Contents of the Windows 98 Startup Disk", see this MSKB article:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q185645/

 

COMMAND COM 93,880 05-11-98 8:01p

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: BIG Problem

 

Thought it might be that one. Unfortunately, there's no "undo" for that SP

or for individual parts.

 

This is where the benefit of a good Backup scheme becomes apparent. Unless

someone can guide you to the flag that will let you reinstall, you're pretty

well SOL, methinks. Even then, I'd slate this machine for a clean reinstall.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"שמואל" <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

>

>> Which unofficial patch. Where did you get it from?

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "שמואל" <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:130EBCAA-321B-479E-B07F-75C91C90A786@microsoft.com...

>> >I installed the Unofficial Windows 98 patches.

>> >

>> > Now the computer does not go into Windows, not normal nor Safe Mode. I

>> > get

>> > a

>> > fatal exception error at 0187 (or (0167):BFF9E0BF.

>> >

>> > I can also sometimes see an error in VXD VWIN32(05).

>> >

>> > Can someone help me get the computer to work again?

>> >

>> > I couldn't reinstall Windows 98 from a CD either. Setup thinks

>> > (wrongly)

>> > that disk commpression is used.

>> >

>> > Thank you.

>> >

>>

>>

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: BIG Problem

 

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:12:02 -0700, ????? <@discussions.microsoft.com>

put finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>

>"philo" wrote:

>

>> Although the unofficial service pack is made from official releases and

>> should not have caused a problem...

>> obviously it did.

>>

>> The "compression" problem you experienced was probably caused by using the

>> wrong boot disk

>> when you tried to reinstall Win98.

>>

>> There are several things you can do here.

>>

>> 1) go to http://www.bootdisk.com and get a boot disk from the *exact* version of

>> windows that you are using

>>

>> 2) delete the compression driver (drivespace.bin) from your boot disk

>> and/or from the root directory of your current system

>>

>> For example, if you try to boot your machine, hit F8 and select command

>> prompt

>>

>> then cd\ C:

>>

>> now simply try C:\ del *.bin

>

>I just checked, there are no .bin files on C:

 

How to Determine If a Hard Disk Is Compressed:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/193051/en-us

 

===================================================================

Once the command prompt appears, type the following line, and then

press ENTER:

 

dir d*.* /a /p

 

If you see any files named Dblspace.<nnn> or Drvspace.<nnn> (where

<nnn> is a number from 000 to 254), the drive is compressed. If you

view all the files on the drive, you do not see all of your files.

===================================================================

 

What do you see when you type ...

 

dir c:\

dir c:\ /ah

dir c:\ /as

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest philo]

Re: BIG Problem

 

 

"?????" <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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>

>

> "philo" wrote:

>

> > Although the unofficial service pack is made from official releases and

> > should not have caused a problem...

> > obviously it did.

> >

> > The "compression" problem you experienced was probably caused by using

the

> > wrong boot disk

> > when you tried to reinstall Win98.

> >

> > There are several things you can do here.

> >

> > 1) go to http://www.bootdisk.com and get a boot disk from the *exact* version

of

> > windows that you are using

> >

> > 2) delete the compression driver (drivespace.bin) from your boot disk

> > and/or from the root directory of your current system

> >

> > For example, if you try to boot your machine, hit F8 and select command

> > prompt

> >

> > then cd\ C:

> >

> > now simply try C:\ del *.bin

>

> I just checked, there are no .bin files on C:

>

>

 

 

It's possible they are hidden...but with the right boot floppy, it will not

matter

 

just make sure you use a floppy for windows98

 

if you use a dos, win95 or winME floppy you will get that compression driver

error.

 

anyway, once you get a working cd support boot floppy

 

from dos you will have to navigate over to your windows folder and rename

win.com

 

for example C:\windows> rename win.com win.old

 

now you can navigate back to the cd drive and start your installation

 

pay careful attention as you will be asked if you want to install windows in

the C:\windows.000 folder

 

to install Windows back over itself, at this point you opt not to take the

default

 

but instead you must specificy your original windows folder...which is

generally C:\windows

[Guest Fan924]

Re: BIG Problem

 

On Mar 25, 7:40 am, שמואל <@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I know that the service pack is for SE. Yes, I have a CD of SE. The problem

> now is that I'm not sure that SE is what was installed on the computer.

 

It is a win98SE only service pack. It will not even run on win98.