Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

[Guest ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com]

Hi to MCP and the Experience Pros out there,

 

my company have just purchase a HP Proliant ML350 Server G4p - quad 3.2Ghz

Xeon, 4GB Ram, 2x725Watts power supply, 5X72GB HDD with RAID hardware.

 

I have to install either Windows Server 2003 with 32 bits or 64 bits, i did

some research for 32 and 64 bits, i found out that 64bits can fully utilize

the physical memory and so on, but overall, i am still blur about it.

 

1. can any Pros out there give me some advantage and disadvantage of 32bits

and 64bits?

2. this Proliant Server have RAID hardware, from what i heard, it says that

RAID 5 can auto backup and recreate data files if one of the harddisk break

down, can anyone explain to me know how to configure RAID?

 

thanks in Advance!

 

Regards,

ViNC3

Server Pros Wannabe

 

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[Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com <u40010@uwe> wrote:

> Hi to MCP and the Experience Pros out there,

>

> my company have just purchase a HP Proliant ML350 Server G4p - quad

> 3.2Ghz Xeon, 4GB Ram, 2x725Watts power supply, 5X72GB HDD with RAID

> hardware.

>

> I have to install either Windows Server 2003 with 32 bits or 64 bits,

> i did some research for 32 and 64 bits, i found out that 64bits can

> fully utilize the physical memory and so on, but overall, i am still

> blur about it.

>

> 1. can any Pros out there give me some advantage and disadvantage of

> 32bits and 64bits?

 

Well, you can review the differences here:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsserver/evaluate/features/compare.mspx

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/win2003x64_preview.asp

 

 

But the real issue is what you're going to use this server *for,* which

nobody here can guess from your post.

> 2. this Proliant Server have RAID hardware,

 

Good! Much better than "software" RAID managed by the OS.

> from what i heard, it

> says that RAID 5 can auto backup and recreate data files if one of

> the harddisk break down,

 

It can recover / continue running in the event of one drive failing. It

doesn't recreate data files in the sense that you'd see/use them in your OS.

> can anyone explain to me know how to

> configure RAID?

 

It's hard to tell you much about how to configure your server -but you

should do some reading up on RAID. Start here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

 

>

> thanks in Advance!

>

> Regards,

> ViNC3

> Server Pros Wannabe

[Guest dan]

Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

 

"ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com" <u40010@uwe> wrote in message

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> Hi to MCP and the Experience Pros out there,

>

> my company have just purchase a HP Proliant ML350 Server G4p - quad 3.2Ghz

> Xeon, 4GB Ram, 2x725Watts power supply, 5X72GB HDD with RAID hardware.

>

> I have to install either Windows Server 2003 with 32 bits or 64 bits, i

> did

> some research for 32 and 64 bits, i found out that 64bits can fully

> utilize

> the physical memory and so on, but overall, i am still blur about it.

>

> 1. can any Pros out there give me some advantage and disadvantage of

> 32bits

> and 64bits?

> 2. this Proliant Server have RAID hardware, from what i heard, it says

> that

> RAID 5 can auto backup and recreate data files if one of the harddisk

> break

> down, can anyone explain to me know how to configure RAID?

>

> thanks in Advance!

>

> Regards,

> ViNC3

> Server Pros Wannabe

>

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>

Once you have a general idea of how RAID works from the reference Lanwench

gave you, as far as configuring your specific hardware RAID setup, follow

the instructions that come with the hardware RAID controller, or download

them from their website.

[Guest ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com]

Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

Hi Lanwench,

 

i have read through the Links you posted, thanks for the info, i think i will

install Windows Server 2003 x64, they all said are the fastest, better

performance and everything, right?

 

as for the RAID, i am still blur about it, oh well,

i guess i will just install the OS first, and worry about RAID later.

 

Hi David,

Okay, i follow what you said once i install the OS and stuff.

 

 

thanks both your you pros.

i will post for help again if i need it.

 

Regards,

ViNC3

Server Pros Wannabe

 

 

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:

>> Hi to MCP and the Experience Pros out there,

>>

>

>> 1. can any Pros out there give me some advantage and disadvantage of

>> 32bits and 64bits?

>

>Well, you can review the differences here:

>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsserver/evaluate/features/compare.mspx

>http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/win2003x64_preview.asp

>

>But the real issue is what you're going to use this server *for,* which

>nobody here can guess from your post.

>

>> 2. this Proliant Server have RAID hardware,

>

>Good! Much better than "software" RAID managed by the OS.

>

>> from what i heard, it

>> says that RAID 5 can auto backup and recreate data files if one of

>> the harddisk break down,

>

>It can recover / continue running in the event of one drive failing. It

>doesn't recreate data files in the sense that you'd see/use them in your OS.

>

>> can anyone explain to me know how to

>> configure RAID?

>

>It's hard to tell you much about how to configure your server -but you

>should do some reading up on RAID. Start here -

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

>

>> thanks in Advance!

>>

>> Regards,

>> ViNC3

>> Server Pros Wannabe

 

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Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

Hi,

i have successfully installed Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition onto HP

Proliant Server.

but the thing is that, how do i install RAID?

i have read through the RAID from wikipedia you posted, but i am still blur

about it,

 

Can i know how do i install RAID into the server? or how do i configure RAID

in the Server?

i am blur about it, please give any advice.

 

thanks!!

 

regards,

ViNC3

Server Pros Wannabe

 

dan wrote:

>> Hi to MCP and the Experience Pros out there,

>>

>

>> ViNC3

>> Server Pros Wannabe

>

>Once you have a general idea of how RAID works from the reference Lanwench

>gave you, as far as configuring your specific hardware RAID setup, follow

>the instructions that come with the hardware RAID controller, or download

>them from their website.

 

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[Guest dan]

Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

 

"ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com" <u40010@uwe> wrote in message

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> Hi,

> i have successfully installed Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition onto

> HP

> Proliant Server.

> but the thing is that, how do i install RAID?

> i have read through the RAID from wikipedia you posted, but i am still

> blur

> about it,

>

> Can i know how do i install RAID into the server? or how do i configure

> RAID

> in the Server?

> i am blur about it, please give any advice.

>

> thanks!!

>

> regards,

> ViNC3

> Server Pros Wannabe

>

> dan wrote:

>>> Hi to MCP and the Experience Pros out there,

>>>

>>

>>> ViNC3

>>> Server Pros Wannabe

>>

>>Once you have a general idea of how RAID works from the reference Lanwench

>>gave you, as far as configuring your specific hardware RAID setup, follow

>>the instructions that come with the hardware RAID controller, or download

>>them from their website.

>

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>

 

As I said before ViNC3, you're going to have to identify your RAID

Controller hardware, and follow the instructions for that hardware to set up

your RAID array on your server. If you're thinking about setting up software

RAID using Windows, don't do it if you're setting up a production

environment. Trust me, software RAID will eventually cause you big

headaches.

[Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com <u40010@uwe> wrote:

> Hi Lanwench,

>

> i have read through the Links you posted, thanks for the info, i

> think i will install Windows Server 2003 x64, they all said are the

> fastest, better performance and everything, right?

 

It can be, but again, without knowing what you need to use this server for,

it's hard to answer. Why spend the money on x64 if this server doesn't need

it?

>

> as for the RAID, i am still blur about it, oh well,

> i guess i will just install the OS first, and worry about RAID later.

 

No - that is not an option. You have to configure your RAID first - it's set

up at the hardware level.

 

If this is not your area of expertise, I'd suggest your company get a

consultant in to help out with the setup.

>

> Hi David,

> Okay, i follow what you said once i install the OS and stuff.

>

>

> thanks both your you pros.

> i will post for help again if i need it.

>

> Regards,

> ViNC3

> Server Pros Wannabe

>

>

> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:

>>> Hi to MCP and the Experience Pros out there,

>>>

>>

>>> 1. can any Pros out there give me some advantage and disadvantage of

>>> 32bits and 64bits?

>>

>> Well, you can review the differences here:

>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/windowsserver/evaluate/features/compare.mspx

>> http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/win2003x64_preview.asp

>>

>> But the real issue is what you're going to use this server *for,*

>> which nobody here can guess from your post.

>>

>>> 2. this Proliant Server have RAID hardware,

>>

>> Good! Much better than "software" RAID managed by the OS.

>>

>>> from what i heard, it

>>> says that RAID 5 can auto backup and recreate data files if one of

>>> the harddisk break down,

>>

>> It can recover / continue running in the event of one drive failing.

>> It doesn't recreate data files in the sense that you'd see/use them

>> in your OS.

>>

>>> can anyone explain to me know how to

>>> configure RAID?

>>

>> It's hard to tell you much about how to configure your server -but

>> you should do some reading up on RAID. Start here -

>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

>>

>>> thanks in Advance!

>>>

>>> Regards,

>>> ViNC3

>>> Server Pros Wannabe

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Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

Hi Dan,

 

This server still under monitoring, they want me to setup and to monitor sees

weather everything is ok, it seem like in the BIOS, the Proliant Server have

actually created and configure RAID 5 by itself when i installed Windows

Server 2003 in it.

but frankly speaking, i am not sure weather what i saw in BIOS is correct or

not.

 

because this server were bought second-hand from partner company, it doesn't

have any manual that i cam refer to, and how to set up RAID and so on, and

when i went to HP website, all the information are blur and messy (or maybe i

am too noob to understand what's saying)

 

by any chance can you teach me how to check within BIOS?

 

thanks and regards,

ViNC3

Server Pros Wannabe

 

dan wrote:

>> Hi,

>> i have successfully installed Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition onto

>

>>>the instructions that come with the hardware RAID controller, or download

>>>them from their website.

>

>As I said before ViNC3, you're going to have to identify your RAID

>Controller hardware, and follow the instructions for that hardware to set up

>your RAID array on your server. If you're thinking about setting up software

>RAID using Windows, don't do it if you're setting up a production

>environment. Trust me, software RAID will eventually cause you big

>headaches.

 

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[Guest ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com]

Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

Hi Lanwench,

 

I have installed Windows Server 2003 32 bits,

This server still under monitoring, it seem like in the BIOS, the Proliant

Server have

actually created and configure RAID 5 by itself when i installed Windows

Server 2003 in it.

but frankly speaking, i am not sure weather what i saw in BIOS is correct or

not.

 

Due to this server were bought second-hand from partner company, it doesn't

have any manual that i can refer to, and how to set up RAID and so on, and

when i went to HP website, all the information are blur and messy (or maybe i

am too noob to understand whats it saying)

 

by any chance can you teach me how to check RAID Configuration within BIOS?

 

Regards,

ViNC3

Server Pros Wannabe

 

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:

>> Hi Lanwench,

>>

>> i have read through the Links you posted, thanks for the info, i

>> think i will install Windows Server 2003 x64, they all said are the

>> fastest, better performance and everything, right?

>

>It can be, but again, without knowing what you need to use this server for,

>it's hard to answer. Why spend the money on x64 if this server doesn't need

>it?

>

>> as for the RAID, i am still blur about it, oh well,

>> i guess i will just install the OS first, and worry about RAID later.

>

>No - that is not an option. You have to configure your RAID first - it's set

>up at the hardware level.

>

>If this is not your area of expertise, I'd suggest your company get a

>consultant in to help out with the setup.

>

>> Hi David,

>> Okay, i follow what you said once i install the OS and stuff.

>

>>>> ViNC3

>>>> Server Pros Wannabe

 

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[Guest Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]]

Re: Installing Windows Server 2003 32bits or 64bits

 

ViNC3 via WinServerKB.com <u40010@uwe> wrote:

> Hi Lanwench,

>

> I have installed Windows Server 2003 32 bits,

> This server still under monitoring, it seem like in the BIOS, the

> Proliant Server have

> actually created and configure RAID 5 by itself when i installed

> Windows Server 2003 in it.

 

No, this is not possible. I suspect the RAID was already configured.

> but frankly speaking, i am not sure weather what i saw in BIOS is

> correct or not.

 

But we can't know what you mean by "correct" - there are different

confgurations that are best for for different types of servers.

>

> Due to this server were bought second-hand from partner company, it

> doesn't have any manual that i can refer to,

 

Right....

>and how to set up RAID

> and so on, and when i went to HP website, all the information are

> blur and messy (or maybe i am too noob to understand whats it saying)

 

Sure, but you can always call the manufacturer for tech support if you can't

find what you need on their website.... note that printed manuals are rare

these days and it's usually PDFs! :-)

>

> by any chance can you teach me how to check RAID Configuration within

> BIOS?

 

No,sorry...I won't know your exact model or steps. HP has utilities you can

install/download if you wish to view this information from within Windows.

 

As mentioned, I really suggest you look at getting someone in to help you

with this, if your company wants to use this as a production server. You can

sit/watch/help/learn.

 

>

> Regards,

> ViNC3

> Server Pros Wannabe

>

> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:

>>> Hi Lanwench,

>>>

>>> i have read through the Links you posted, thanks for the info, i

>>> think i will install Windows Server 2003 x64, they all said are the

>>> fastest, better performance and everything, right?

>>

>> It can be, but again, without knowing what you need to use this

>> server for, it's hard to answer. Why spend the money on x64 if this

>> server doesn't need it?

>>

>>> as for the RAID, i am still blur about it, oh well,

>>> i guess i will just install the OS first, and worry about RAID

>>> later.

>>

>> No - that is not an option. You have to configure your RAID first -

>> it's set up at the hardware level.

>>

>> If this is not your area of expertise, I'd suggest your company get a

>> consultant in to help out with the setup.

>>

>>> Hi David,

>>> Okay, i follow what you said once i install the OS and stuff.

>>

>>>>> ViNC3

>>>>> Server Pros Wannabe