Guest dk_ Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1 minute? When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running fine. msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1" I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy. Thanks. -Dennis -- Dennis Kessler http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture
Guest MEB Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com... | How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the | bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1 | minute? | | When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes | black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running | fine. | | msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1" | | I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy. | | Thanks. | | -Dennis | | -- | Dennis Kessler | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking issues. Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your issue, as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run {registry} services affecting this as well. Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what may be taking so long. Here's an example: InitDone = Final USER Init = Installable Drivers InitDone = Installable Drivers Init = TSRQuery InitDone = TSRQuery [00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00) [00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00) [00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001) [00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001) [0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D) [0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D) Terminate = User Terminate = Query Drivers EndTerminate = Query Drivers Terminate = Unload Network EndTerminate = Unload Network -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________
Guest Fan924 Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if autoexec.bat is empty. logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address.
Guest dadiOH Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows dk_ wrote: > How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at > the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black > screen for 1 minute? > > When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen > goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine > is running fine. > > msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1" > I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy. Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is (should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want? dadiOH
Guest dk_ Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows In article <ep9r2qKkIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: > "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message > news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com... > | How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the > | bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1 > | minute? > | > | When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes > | black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running > > | fine. > | > | msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1" > | > | I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy. > | > | Thanks. > | > | -Dennis > | > | -- > | Dennis Kessler > | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture > > This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking > issues. > Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other > potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your issue, > as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You > also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run > {registry} services affecting this as well. > > Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what may > be taking so long. > > Here's an example: > > InitDone = Final USER > Init = Installable Drivers > InitDone = Installable Drivers > Init = TSRQuery > InitDone = TSRQuery > [00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00) > [00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00) > [00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001) > [00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001) > [0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D) > [0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D) > Terminate = User > Terminate = Query Drivers > EndTerminate = Query Drivers > Terminate = Unload Network > EndTerminate = Unload Network > > -- > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com Thanks for the info. I was thinking that this was not a problem with the logo file itself. Why would a networking problem cause the black screen? When I open the network control panel, the machine does display a message saying that the network is not complete. However, the machine behaves properly with its internet connection. The machine is not connected to anything except a router and a printer. I will run a bootlog.txt file and have a look. The machine is not mine, so I don't know how soon I will be at that machine again. Thanks. -Dennis -- Dennis Kessler http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture
Guest dk_ Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows In article <Ou#3kdMkIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "dadiOH" <someone@fuggetit.com> wrote: > dk_ wrote: > > How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at > > the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black > > screen for 1 minute? > > > > When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen > > goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine > > is running fine. > > > > msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1" > > > > > I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy. > > Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is > (should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want? > > dadiOH > > I don't think the problem is the file, because the logo should display even if logo.sys is not in the C: directory. I did look at the file. It's as it should be. I wonder why I get the black screen before the desktop displays. Thanks. -Dennis -- Dennis Kessler http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture
Guest dk_ Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows In article <9f14eb4f-46a3-4c68-9ba3-5299fc5eea31@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, Fan924 <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote: > The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if > autoexec.bat is empty. > > logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is > not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden > inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave > action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address. I've tried booting with and without the logo.sys file, and the machine still displays a black screen before the desktop appears. Thanks. -Dennis -- Dennis Kessler http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:19:44 -0700, dk_ <nobody@spamless.com> put finger to keyboard and composed: >In article ><9f14eb4f-46a3-4c68-9ba3-5299fc5eea31@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, > Fan924 <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if >> autoexec.bat is empty. >> >> logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is >> not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden >> inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave >> action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address. > >I've tried booting with and without the logo.sys file, and the machine still >displays a black screen before the desktop appears. > >Thanks. > >-Dennis You might like to try selecting Step-By-Step Confirmation in your bootup menu: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192926 Then at least you will know what is being executed during the long pause. It may be that your machine is waiting to obtain an IP address for its NIC from a DHCP server. If the router is turned off, then your NIC will be assigned an automatic local IP address in the range 169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220874 You can see whether this is the case by going to Start > Run and typing "winipcfg". If there is something (eg antivirus) in your autoexec.bat, then this may also be responsible for the delay. Go to Start > Run and type "sysedit". - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
Guest Adam Posted March 28, 2008 Posted March 28, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows The "logo-display-mechanism" pseudo code near the bottom of the following URL ... http://members.fortunecity.com/shetzl/wn95logo.html is the best description that I've found about where the startup screen comes from. Even if a startup screen is displayed, there may still be times when the system is busy starting where the screen goes black. How long the screen stays black depends on the speed of your system and how much initialization there is. Try reducing the amount of initialization by booting into Safe Mode as a test. "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message news:dwbHj.1342$ph.1082@fe117.usenetserver.com... > In article <Ou#3kdMkIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, > "dadiOH" <someone@fuggetit.com> wrote: > > > dk_ wrote: > > > How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at > > > the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black > > > screen for 1 minute? > > > > > > When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen > > > goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine > > > is running fine. > > > > > > msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1" > > > > > > > > > I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy. > > > > Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is > > (should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want? > > > > dadiOH > > > > > > I don't think the problem is the file, because the logo should display even > if logo.sys is not in the C: directory. I did look at the file. It's as it > should be. I wonder why I get the black screen before the desktop displays. > > Thanks. > > -Dennis > > -- > Dennis Kessler > http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture
Guest MEB Posted March 29, 2008 Posted March 29, 2008 Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message news:RtbHj.1341$ph.290@fe117.usenetserver.com... | In article <ep9r2qKkIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote: | | > "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message | > news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com... | > | How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the | > | bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1 | > | minute? | > | | > | When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes | > | black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running | > | > | fine. | > | | > | msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1" | > | | > | I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy. | > | | > | Thanks. | > | | > | -Dennis | > | | > | -- | > | Dennis Kessler | > | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture | > | > This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking | > issues. | > Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other | > potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your issue, | > as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You | > also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run | > {registry} services affecting this as well. | > | > Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what may | > be taking so long. | > | > Here's an example: | > | > InitDone = Final USER | > Init = Installable Drivers | > InitDone = Installable Drivers | > Init = TSRQuery | > InitDone = TSRQuery | > [00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 | > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00) | > [00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 | > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00) | > [00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001) | > [00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001) | > [0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D) | > [0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D) | > Terminate = User | > Terminate = Query Drivers | > EndTerminate = Query Drivers | > Terminate = Unload Network | > EndTerminate = Unload Network | > | > -- | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com | | Thanks for the info. I was thinking that this was not a problem with the | logo file itself. | | Why would a networking problem cause the black screen? | | When I open the network control panel, the machine does display a message | saying that the network is not complete. However, the machine behaves | properly with its internet connection. The machine is not connected to | anything except a router and a printer. | | I will run a bootlog.txt file and have a look. The machine is not mine, so I | don't know how soon I will be at that machine again. | | Thanks. | | -Dennis | | -- | Dennis Kessler | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture Any delayed loading, or potentially crucial loads may cause the black/blank screen when the load process waits for a proper response. Another, as previously indicated, can be the networking aspects. When loading, if the memory area, devices, or other are addressed/accessed during startup, they MAY release/override that segment which causes logo.sys to black/blank. PCI issues were also a cause. Fix the network issues and see if that doesn't fix the issue. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________
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