Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

[Guest dk_]

How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the

bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1

minute?

 

When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes

black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running

fine.

 

msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

 

I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

 

Thanks.

 

-Dennis

 

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[Guest MEB]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

 

 

 

"dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message

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| How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the

| bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1

| minute?

|

| When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes

| black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running

 

| fine.

|

| msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

|

| I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

|

| Thanks.

|

| -Dennis

|

| --

| Dennis Kessler

| http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

 

This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking

issues.

Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other

potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your issue,

as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You

also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run

{registry} services affecting this as well.

 

Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what may

be taking so long.

 

Here's an example:

 

InitDone = Final USER

Init = Installable Drivers

InitDone = Installable Drivers

Init = TSRQuery

InitDone = TSRQuery

[00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

(PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)

[00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

(PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)

[00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)

[00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)

[0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)

[0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)

Terminate = User

Terminate = Query Drivers

EndTerminate = Query Drivers

Terminate = Unload Network

EndTerminate = Unload Network

 

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[Guest Fan924]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if

autoexec.bat is empty.

 

logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is

not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden

inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave

action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address.

[Guest dadiOH]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

dk_ wrote:

> How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at

> the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black

> screen for 1 minute?

>

> When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen

> goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine

> is running fine.

>

> msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

 

 

> I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

 

Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is

(should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want?

 

dadiOH

[Guest dk_]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

In article <ep9r2qKkIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message

> news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com...

> | How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at the

> | bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen for 1

> | minute?

> |

> | When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen goes

> | black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is running

>

> | fine.

> |

> | msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

> |

> | I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

> |

> | Thanks.

> |

> | -Dennis

> |

> | --

> | Dennis Kessler

> | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

>

> This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking

> issues.

> Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other

> potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your issue,

> as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You

> also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run

> {registry} services affecting this as well.

>

> Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what may

> be taking so long.

>

> Here's an example:

>

> InitDone = Final USER

> Init = Installable Drivers

> InitDone = Installable Drivers

> Init = TSRQuery

> InitDone = TSRQuery

> [00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

> (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)

> [00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

> (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)

> [00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)

> [00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)

> [0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)

> [0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)

> Terminate = User

> Terminate = Query Drivers

> EndTerminate = Query Drivers

> Terminate = Unload Network

> EndTerminate = Unload Network

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

 

Thanks for the info. I was thinking that this was not a problem with the

logo file itself.

 

Why would a networking problem cause the black screen?

 

When I open the network control panel, the machine does display a message

saying that the network is not complete. However, the machine behaves

properly with its internet connection. The machine is not connected to

anything except a router and a printer.

 

I will run a bootlog.txt file and have a look. The machine is not mine, so I

don't know how soon I will be at that machine again.

 

Thanks.

 

-Dennis

 

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http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

[Guest dk_]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

In article <Ou#3kdMkIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

"dadiOH" <someone@fuggetit.com> wrote:

> dk_ wrote:

> > How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at

> > the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black

> > screen for 1 minute?

> >

> > When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen

> > goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine

> > is running fine.

> >

> > msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

>

>

>

> > I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

>

> Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is

> (should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want?

>

> dadiOH

>

>

 

I don't think the problem is the file, because the logo should display even

if logo.sys is not in the C: directory. I did look at the file. It's as it

should be. I wonder why I get the black screen before the desktop displays.

 

Thanks.

 

-Dennis

 

--

Dennis Kessler

http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

[Guest dk_]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

In article

<9f14eb4f-46a3-4c68-9ba3-5299fc5eea31@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

Fan924 <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if

> autoexec.bat is empty.

>

> logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is

> not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden

> inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave

> action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address.

 

I've tried booting with and without the logo.sys file, and the machine still

displays a black screen before the desktop appears.

 

Thanks.

 

-Dennis

 

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Dennis Kessler

http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

[Guest Franc Zabkar]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 12:19:44 -0700, dk_ <nobody@spamless.com> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>In article

><9f14eb4f-46a3-4c68-9ba3-5299fc5eea31@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

> Fan924 <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>> The opening "splash screen" quits when autoexec.bat runs. Even if

>> autoexec.bat is empty.

>>

>> logo.sys must be exactly 320 wide by 400, 8-bit bitmap.If logo.sys is

>> not present in c:\, it uses the default splash screen that is hidden

>> inside io.sys. If you feather the bottom correctly, you get that wave

>> action. Dennis, I can send an example if you give me an email address.

>

>I've tried booting with and without the logo.sys file, and the machine still

>displays a black screen before the desktop appears.

>

>Thanks.

>

>-Dennis

 

You might like to try selecting Step-By-Step Confirmation in your

bootup menu:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192926

 

Then at least you will know what is being executed during the long

pause.

 

It may be that your machine is waiting to obtain an IP address for its

NIC from a DHCP server. If the router is turned off, then your NIC

will be assigned an automatic local IP address in the range

169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255.

 

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/220874

 

You can see whether this is the case by going to Start > Run and

typing "winipcfg".

 

If there is something (eg antivirus) in your autoexec.bat, then this

may also be responsible for the delay. Go to Start > Run and type

"sysedit".

 

- Franc Zabkar

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[Guest Adam]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

The "logo-display-mechanism" pseudo code near

the bottom of the following URL ...

http://members.fortunecity.com/shetzl/wn95logo.html

is the best description that I've found about

where the startup screen comes from.

 

Even if a startup screen is displayed,

there may still be times when the system is

busy starting where the screen goes black.

How long the screen stays black depends on

the speed of your system and how much initialization there is.

Try reducing the amount of initialization by booting into

Safe Mode as a test.

 

 

"dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message

news:dwbHj.1342$ph.1082@fe117.usenetserver.com...

> In article <Ou#3kdMkIHA.4164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>,

> "dadiOH" <someone@fuggetit.com> wrote:

>

> > dk_ wrote:

> > > How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at

> > > the bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black

> > > screen for 1 minute?

> > >

> > > When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen

> > > goes black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine

> > > is running fine.

> > >

> > > msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

> >

> >

> >

> > > I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

> >

> > Was it not there before? Where did you get the one you put in C:? It is

> > (should be) a bitmap so open it with Paint...is it the graphic you want?

> >

> > dadiOH

> >

> >

>

> I don't think the problem is the file, because the logo should display even

> if logo.sys is not in the C: directory. I did look at the file. It's as it

> should be. I wonder why I get the black screen before the desktop displays.

>

> Thanks.

>

> -Dennis

>

> --

> Dennis Kessler

> http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

[Guest MEB]

Re: Black screen (no logo) before desktop shows

 

 

"dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message

news:RtbHj.1341$ph.290@fe117.usenetserver.com...

| In article <ep9r2qKkIHA.2304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>,

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote:

|

| > "dk_" <nobody@spamless.com> wrote in message

| > news:TLZGj.5617$jG5.3388@fe119.usenetserver.com...

| > | How can I display the Windows 98 logo (with the changing color bar at

the

| > | bottom) before the desktop loads, instead of just see a black screen

for 1

| > | minute?

| > |

| > | When the machine starts, the Windows logo displays, then the screen

goes

| > | black for about one minute, then the desktop loads. The machine is

running

| >

| > | fine.

| > |

| > | msdos.sys does have the line "Logo=1"

| > |

| > | I tried just putting 'logo.sys' in the C: directory. No joy.

| > |

| > | Thanks.

| > |

| > | -Dennis

| > |

| > | --

| > | Dennis Kessler

| > | http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

| >

| > This seems to relate to final driver loads and potentially, networking

| > issues.

| > Name resolution, IP addressing, mapped drives, and a number of other

| > potential issues [video drivers (perhaps this might be more of your

issue,

| > as the screen is cleared/blacked), etc.] COULD be part of the cause. You

| > also may have a number of items in the StartUp menu folder and run

| > {registry} services affecting this as well.

| >

| > Try creating a bootlog.txt and see what the final loads are, and what

may

| > be taking so long.

| >

| > Here's an example:

| >

| > InitDone = Final USER

| > Init = Installable Drivers

| > InitDone = Installable Drivers

| > Init = TSRQuery

| > InitDone = TSRQuery

| > [00113700] Enumerating NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

| > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)

| > [00113701] Enumerated NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500

| > (PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0326&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_A1\BUS_00&DEV_0F&FUNC_00)

| > [00113701] Enumerating Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)

| > [00113701] Enumerated Epson CG1728N (MONITOR\DEFAULT_MONITOR\0001)

| > [0011376C] Enumerating Standard Floppy Disk Controller

(BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)

| > [0011376F] Enumerated Standard Floppy Disk Controller (BIOS\*PNP0700\0D)

| > Terminate = User

| > Terminate = Query Drivers

| > EndTerminate = Query Drivers

| > Terminate = Unload Network

| > EndTerminate = Unload Network

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

|

| Thanks for the info. I was thinking that this was not a problem with the

| logo file itself.

|

| Why would a networking problem cause the black screen?

|

| When I open the network control panel, the machine does display a message

| saying that the network is not complete. However, the machine behaves

| properly with its internet connection. The machine is not connected to

| anything except a router and a printer.

|

| I will run a bootlog.txt file and have a look. The machine is not mine, so

I

| don't know how soon I will be at that machine again.

|

| Thanks.

|

| -Dennis

|

| --

| Dennis Kessler

| http://www.denniskessler.com/acupuncture

 

Any delayed loading, or potentially crucial loads may cause the black/blank

screen when the load process waits for a proper response.

Another, as previously indicated, can be the networking aspects.

When loading, if the memory area, devices, or other are addressed/accessed

during startup, they MAY release/override that segment which causes logo.sys

to black/blank. PCI issues were also a cause.

 

Fix the network issues and see if that doesn't fix the issue.

 

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