Displaying the path to ISP provider

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April 10, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>

> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

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> | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router

> where

> | my pc gets internet from.

> |

> | Thanks

> |

>

> Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

>

> IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when using

> ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you can

> PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.

> Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

> > ping {router/gateway address}

> > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text file of

all

> IP-addies}

> > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

>

> Other commands:

> cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

> clicfg - SQL client config

> cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

> cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

> dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

> fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

> nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections

using

> NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

> net - Network Diagnostics and commands

> netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and

current

> TCP/IP network connections.

> netwatch - Net Watcher

> route - TCP/IP Route Command

> winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

>

> Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible] gives

a

> few more:

> netmon - network monitor

> poledit - policy editor

> pwledit - password editor

> rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

> regsrv - remote registry

>

> XP has some more:

> bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

> browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

> dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

> dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

> getsid - {obvious}

> httpcfg - http config util

> ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

> netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

> netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

> netdom -

> netset

> nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

> pptp ping - pptp diag

> rasdiag - remote access diag

> rsdiag - remote storage diag

> showaccs - show access

> snmputil

> snmputilg

> whoami

>

> I left out a few, so...

>

> --

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I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names, i.e.

determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the

intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are between my

pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need be

specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway address? (i

can see it from winipcfg)

tracert IP

thanks

April 11, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

tracert {actual IP address}

Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,, try

netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery tools

available.

TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a

preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many

server AND/OR IS logged}.

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"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

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|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| >

| > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP router

| > where

| > | my pc gets internet from.

| > |

| > | Thanks

| > |

| >

| > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

| >

| > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when

using

| > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you can

| > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.

| > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

| > > ping {router/gateway address}

| > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text file of

| all

| > IP-addies}

| > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

| >

| > Other commands:

| > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

| > clicfg - SQL client config

| > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

| > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

| > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

| > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

| > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections

| using

| > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

| > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

| > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and

| current

| > TCP/IP network connections.

| > netwatch - Net Watcher

| > route - TCP/IP Route Command

| > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

| >

| > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]

gives

| a

| > few more:

| > netmon - network monitor

| > poledit - policy editor

| > pwledit - password editor

| > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

| > regsrv - remote registry

| >

| > XP has some more:

| > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

| > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

| > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

| > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

| > getsid - {obvious}

| > httpcfg - http config util

| > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

| > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

| > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

| > netdom -

| > netset

| > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

| > pptp ping - pptp diag

| > rasdiag - remote access diag

| > rsdiag - remote storage diag

| > showaccs - show access

| > snmputil

| > snmputilg

| > whoami

| >

| > I left out a few, so...

| >

| > --

| ---------

| I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names, i.e.

| determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the

| intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are between my

| pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need be

| specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway address? (i

| can see it from winipcfg)

|

| tracert IP

|

| thanks

|

April 11, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

>

> tracert {actual IP address}

>

> Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,, try

> netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery

> tools

> available.

>

> TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a

> preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many

> server AND/OR IS logged}.

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | >

> | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP

> router

> | > where

> | > | my pc gets internet from.

> | > |

> | > | Thanks

> | > |

> | >

> | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

> | >

> | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when

> using

> | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you

> can

> | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.

> | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

> | > > ping {router/gateway address}

> | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text file

> of

> | all

> | > IP-addies}

> | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

> | >

> | > Other commands:

> | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

> | > clicfg - SQL client config

> | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

> | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

> | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

> | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

> | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP connections

> | using

> | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

> | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

> | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and

> | current

> | > TCP/IP network connections.

> | > netwatch - Net Watcher

> | > route - TCP/IP Route Command

> | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

> | >

> | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]

> gives

> | a

> | > few more:

> | > netmon - network monitor

> | > poledit - policy editor

> | > pwledit - password editor

> | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

> | > regsrv - remote registry

> | >

> | > XP has some more:

> | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

> | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

> | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

> | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

> | > getsid - {obvious}

> | > httpcfg - http config util

> | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

> | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

> | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

> | > netdom -

> | > netset

> | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

> | > pptp ping - pptp diag

> | > rasdiag - remote access diag

> | > rsdiag - remote storage diag

> | > showaccs - show access

> | > snmputil

> | > snmputilg

> | > whoami

> | >

> | > I left out a few, so...

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | ---------

> | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names, i.e.

> | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the

> | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are between

> my

> | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need be

> | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway address?

> (i

> | can see it from winipcfg)

> |

> | tracert IP

> |

> | thanks

-----------

I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or data

may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router which

work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

S.

April 11, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

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|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

| >

| > tracert {actual IP address}

| >

| > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,,

try

| > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery

| > tools

| > available.

| >

| > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a

| > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many

| > server AND/OR IS logged}.

| >

| > --

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | >

| > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP

| > router

| > | > where

| > | > | my pc gets internet from.

| > | > |

| > | > | Thanks

| > | > |

| > | >

| > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

| > | >

| > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when

| > using

| > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you

| > can

| > | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.

| > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

| > | > > ping {router/gateway address}

| > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text

file

| > of

| > | all

| > | > IP-addies}

| > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

| > | >

| > | > Other commands:

| > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

| > | > clicfg - SQL client config

| > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

| > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

| > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

| > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

| > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP

connections

| > | using

| > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

| > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

| > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and

| > | current

| > | > TCP/IP network connections.

| > | > netwatch - Net Watcher

| > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command

| > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

| > | >

| > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]

| > gives

| > | a

| > | > few more:

| > | > netmon - network monitor

| > | > poledit - policy editor

| > | > pwledit - password editor

| > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

| > | > regsrv - remote registry

| > | >

| > | > XP has some more:

| > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

| > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

| > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

| > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

| > | > getsid - {obvious}

| > | > httpcfg - http config util

| > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

| > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

| > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

| > | > netdom -

| > | > netset

| > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

| > | > pptp ping - pptp diag

| > | > rasdiag - remote access diag

| > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag

| > | > showaccs - show access

| > | > snmputil

| > | > snmputilg

| > | > whoami

| > | >

| > | > I left out a few, so...

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | ---------

| > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,

i.e.

| > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the

| > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are

between

| > my

| > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need

be

| > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway

address?

| > (i

| > | can see it from winipcfg)

| > |

| > | tracert IP

| > |

| > | thanks

| -----------

|

| I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or data

| may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router which

| work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

|

| S.

|

AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in different

regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access]. You're

interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you get

your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if necessary

and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.

Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing router,

adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set properly. If

on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection methods

as well], and MUST be properly setup.

IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools that may

be used against that specific segment of your net.

--

http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx

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April 12, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

When you get that information

be also aware that the route returned is specific to the packet sent, there

is no guarantee that prior packets, or subsequent packets, follow the same

route through the same addresses,

only the destination is fixed

https

secureFTP were developed for secure transmission, use them

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Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan

Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/

Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com

Panda online AntiSpyware Scan

http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/

Catalog of removal tools (1)

http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/

Catalog of removal tools (2)

http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/newsinfo/collateral.aspx?CID=40387

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http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm

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Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters

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"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

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>

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

> >

> > tracert {actual IP address}

> >

> > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,,

try

> > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery

> > tools

> > available.

> >

> > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a

> > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by many

> > server AND/OR IS logged}.

> >

> > --

> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > --

> > _________

> >

> > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > |

> > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > | >

> > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP

> > router

> > | > where

> > | > | my pc gets internet from.

> > | > |

> > | > | Thanks

> > | > |

> > | >

> > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

> > | >

> > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps when

> > using

> > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then you

> > can

> > | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.

> > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

> > | > > ping {router/gateway address}

> > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text

file

> > of

> > | all

> > | > IP-addies}

> > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

> > | >

> > | > Other commands:

> > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

> > | > clicfg - SQL client config

> > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

> > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

> > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

> > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

> > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP

connections

> > | using

> > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

> > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

> > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics and

> > | current

> > | > TCP/IP network connections.

> > | > netwatch - Net Watcher

> > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command

> > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

> > | >

> > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if possible]

> > gives

> > | a

> > | > few more:

> > | > netmon - network monitor

> > | > poledit - policy editor

> > | > pwledit - password editor

> > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

> > | > regsrv - remote registry

> > | >

> > | > XP has some more:

> > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

> > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

> > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

> > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

> > | > getsid - {obvious}

> > | > httpcfg - http config util

> > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

> > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

> > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

> > | > netdom -

> > | > netset

> > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

> > | > pptp ping - pptp diag

> > | > rasdiag - remote access diag

> > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag

> > | > showaccs - show access

> > | > snmputil

> > | > snmputilg

> > | > whoami

> > | >

> > | > I left out a few, so...

> > | >

> > | > --

> > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > | ---------

> > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,

i.e.

> > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the

> > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are

between

> > my

> > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need

be

> > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway

address?

> > (i

> > | can see it from winipcfg)

> > |

> > | tracert IP

> > |

> > | thanks

> -----------

>

> I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or data

> may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router which

> work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

>

> S.

>

April 13, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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>

> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> news:OXQFFyAnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

> | >

> | > tracert {actual IP address}

> | >

> | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services" available,,

> try

> | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network discovery

> | > tools

> | > available.

> | >

> | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a

> | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by

many

> | > server AND/OR IS logged}.

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | >

> | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to ISP

> | > router

> | > | > where

> | > | > | my pc gets internet from.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | Thanks

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

> | > | >

> | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps

when

> | > using

> | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then

you

> | > can

> | > | > PING the local router address from the individual nodes/computers.

> | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

> | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}

> | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text

> file

> | > of

> | > | all

> | > | > IP-addies}

> | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

> | > | >

> | > | > Other commands:

> | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

> | > | > clicfg - SQL client config

> | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

> | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

> | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

> | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

> | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP

> connections

> | > | using

> | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

> | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

> | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics

and

> | > | current

> | > | > TCP/IP network connections.

> | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher

> | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command

> | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

> | > | >

> | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if

possible]

> | > gives

> | > | a

> | > | > few more:

> | > | > netmon - network monitor

> | > | > poledit - policy editor

> | > | > pwledit - password editor

> | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

> | > | > regsrv - remote registry

> | > | >

> | > | > XP has some more:

> | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

> | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

> | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

> | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

> | > | > getsid - {obvious}

> | > | > httpcfg - http config util

> | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

> | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

> | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

> | > | > netdom -

> | > | > netset

> | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

> | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag

> | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag

> | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag

> | > | > showaccs - show access

> | > | > snmputil

> | > | > snmputilg

> | > | > whoami

> | > | >

> | > | > I left out a few, so...

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | ---------

> | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,

> i.e.

> | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the

> | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are

> between

> | > my

> | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP need

> be

> | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway

> address?

> | > (i

> | > | can see it from winipcfg)

> | > |

> | > | tracert IP

> | > |

> | > | thanks

> | -----------

> |

> | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or

data

> | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router

which

> | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

> |

> | S.

> |

>

> AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in

different

> regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access]. You're

> interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you get

> your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if necessary

> and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.

> Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing

router,

> adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set properly.

If

> on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection

methods

> as well], and MUST be properly setup.

>

> IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools that

may

> be used against that specific segment of your net.

>

> --

> --

> _________

Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number, how

this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?

S.

April 13, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

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|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:egF7JwCnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| >

| > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > news:OXQFFyAnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

| > | >

| > | > tracert {actual IP address}

| > | >

| > | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services"

available,,

| > try

| > | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network

discovery

| > | > tools

| > | > available.

| > | >

| > | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or a

| > | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by

| many

| > | > server AND/OR IS logged}.

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > | >

| > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to

ISP

| > | > router

| > | > | > where

| > | > | > | my pc gets internet from.

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | Thanks

| > | > | > |

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or perhaps

| when

| > | > using

| > | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection], then

| you

| > | > can

| > | > | > PING the local router address from the individual

nodes/computers.

| > | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

| > | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}

| > | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a text

| > file

| > | > of

| > | > | all

| > | > | > IP-addies}

| > | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Other commands:

| > | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

| > | > | > clicfg - SQL client config

| > | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

| > | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

| > | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

| > | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

| > | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP

| > connections

| > | > | using

| > | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

| > | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

| > | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol statistics

| and

| > | > | current

| > | > | > TCP/IP network connections.

| > | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher

| > | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command

| > | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if

| possible]

| > | > gives

| > | > | a

| > | > | > few more:

| > | > | > netmon - network monitor

| > | > | > poledit - policy editor

| > | > | > pwledit - password editor

| > | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

| > | > | > regsrv - remote registry

| > | > | >

| > | > | > XP has some more:

| > | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

| > | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

| > | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

| > | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

| > | > | > getsid - {obvious}

| > | > | > httpcfg - http config util

| > | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

| > | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

| > | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

| > | > | > netdom -

| > | > | > netset

| > | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

| > | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag

| > | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag

| > | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag

| > | > | > showaccs - show access

| > | > | > snmputil

| > | > | > snmputilg

| > | > | > whoami

| > | > | >

| > | > | > I left out a few, so...

| > | > | >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | ---------

| > | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host names,

| > i.e.

| > | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of the

| > | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are

| > between

| > | > my

| > | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP

need

| > be

| > | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway

| > address?

| > | > (i

| > | > | can see it from winipcfg)

| > | > |

| > | > | tracert IP

| > | > |

| > | > | thanks

| > | -----------

| > |

| > | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router, or

| data

| > | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router

| which

| > | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

| > |

| > | S.

| > |

| >

| > AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in

| different

| > regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access]. You're

| > interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you

get

| > your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if

necessary

| > and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.

| > Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing

| router,

| > adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set

properly.

| If

| > on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection

| methods

| > as well], and MUST be properly setup.

| >

| > IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools that

| may

| > be used against that specific segment of your net.

| >

| > --

| > --

| > _________

|

| Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number, how

| this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?

|

| S.

|

THAT would and does take a full understanding of packet creation, transmit

headers, and other aspects too lengthy for this forum. However, there are a

number of web sites that have explained the TCP/IP protocol and how networks

[the Internet is a network] use it, in depth.

The short is, MAC is used in conjunction with IP to form and direct the

packet/addressing, MAC CAN be used to identify specific adapters.

This is one way DSL, SAT, and cable providers identify their clients. This

is also basically how cell phones are identified, GPS systems locate you,

and other related things work, by identifying the actual specific device.

--

--

_________

April 14, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:u6BGMmZnIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>

> "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> news:eMk8ehVnIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:egF7JwCnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | >

> | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> | > news:OXQFFyAnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

> | > | >

> | > | > tracert {actual IP address}

> | > | >

> | > | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services"

> available,,

> | > try

> | > | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network

> discovery

> | > | > tools

> | > | > available.

> | > | >

> | > | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack or

> a

> | > | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked by

> | many

> | > | > server AND/OR IS logged}.

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | > | >

> | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> | > | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC to

> ISP

> | > | > router

> | > | > | > where

> | > | > | > | my pc gets internet from.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | Thanks

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or

> perhaps

> | when

> | > | > using

> | > | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection],

> then

> | you

> | > | > can

> | > | > | > PING the local router address from the individual

> nodes/computers.

> | > | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

> | > | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}

> | > | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a

> text

> | > file

> | > | > of

> | > | > | all

> | > | > | > IP-addies}

> | > | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Other commands:

> | > | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

> | > | > | > clicfg - SQL client config

> | > | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

> | > | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

> | > | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

> | > | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

> | > | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP

> | > connections

> | > | > | using

> | > | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

> | > | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

> | > | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol

> statistics

> | and

> | > | > | current

> | > | > | > TCP/IP network connections.

> | > | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher

> | > | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command

> | > | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if

> | possible]

> | > | > gives

> | > | > | a

> | > | > | > few more:

> | > | > | > netmon - network monitor

> | > | > | > poledit - policy editor

> | > | > | > pwledit - password editor

> | > | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

> | > | > | > regsrv - remote registry

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > XP has some more:

> | > | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

> | > | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

> | > | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

> | > | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

> | > | > | > getsid - {obvious}

> | > | > | > httpcfg - http config util

> | > | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

> | > | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

> | > | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

> | > | > | > netdom -

> | > | > | > netset

> | > | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

> | > | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag

> | > | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag

> | > | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag

> | > | > | > showaccs - show access

> | > | > | > snmputil

> | > | > | > snmputilg

> | > | > | > whoami

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > I left out a few, so...

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | ---------

> | > | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host

> names,

> | > i.e.

> | > | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of

> the

> | > | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres are

> | > between

> | > | > my

> | > | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What IP

> need

> | > be

> | > | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway

> | > address?

> | > | > (i

> | > | > | can see it from winipcfg)

> | > | > |

> | > | > | tracert IP

> | > | > |

> | > | > | thanks

> | > | -----------

> | > |

> | > | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router,

> or

> | data

> | > | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate) router

> | which

> | > | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

> | > |

> | > | S.

> | > |

> | >

> | > AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in

> | different

> | > regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access].

> You're

> | > interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once you

> get

> | > your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if

> necessary

> | > and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.

> | > Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing

> | router,

> | > adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set

> properly.

> | If

> | > on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection

> | methods

> | > as well], and MUST be properly setup.

> | >

> | > IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools

> that

> | may

> | > be used against that specific segment of your net.

> | >

> | > --

> | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > --

> | > _________

> |

> | Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number,

> how

> | this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?

> |

> | S.

> |

>

> THAT would and does take a full understanding of packet creation, transmit

> headers, and other aspects too lengthy for this forum. However, there are

> a

> number of web sites that have explained the TCP/IP protocol and how

> networks

> [the Internet is a network] use it, in depth.

> The short is, MAC is used in conjunction with IP to form and direct the

> packet/addressing, MAC CAN be used to identify specific adapters.

> This is one way DSL, SAT, and cable providers identify their clients. This

> is also basically how cell phones are identified, GPS systems locate you,

> and other related things work, by identifying the actual specific device.

>

> --

-----------------------------------

MAC can be used only to identify specific adapters, i.e. whether this modem

is online(switched on) or not? If provider, for whatever reason, want

identify the computer where the message or email was sent from, they need

know IP address, not MAC? If user is behind online anonymous proxy server,

there is no way to detect the computer where the message was sent from, even

if they know modem MAC address?

S.

April 14, 2008

Re: Displaying the path to ISP provider

"SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

news:uoYbNWhnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:u6BGMmZnIHA.3532@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| >

| > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > news:eMk8ehVnIHA.944@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:egF7JwCnIHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | >

| > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > | > news:OXQFFyAnIHA.5084@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:%23hnD6B7mIHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > Ah, what is it EXACTLY that you want to know, and why?

| > | > | >

| > | > | > tracert {actual IP address}

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Perhaps what you really want to do is find the "services"

| > available,,

| > | > try

| > | > | > netinfo [a separate application] or one of the other network

| > discovery

| > | > | > tools

| > | > | > available.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > TAKE DUE NOTICE THOUGH: this may be seen as an attempt to hack

or

| > a

| > | > | > preliminary to a hack {like in illegal intent - this is blocked

by

| > | many

| > | > | > server AND/OR IS logged}.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > _________

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > | > | > news:u6Pjpz1mIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | > | news:%23tOIIazmIHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > "SANTANDER" <santander@microsoft.news> wrote in message

| > | > | > | > news:exPD1mwmIHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | > | what is command to display full detailed path from my PC

to

| > ISP

| > | > | > router

| > | > | > | > where

| > | > | > | > | my pc gets internet from.

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | Thanks

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Command: Open eyes, look at cabling and devices {grin}.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > IF you have a local network beyond a single device, or

| > perhaps

| > | when

| > | > | > using

| > | > | > | > ICS [meaning two or more computers sharing one connection],

| > then

| > | you

| > | > | > can

| > | > | > | > PING the local router address from the individual

| > nodes/computers.

| > | > | > | > Commands from the DOS prompt or CMD window:

| > | > | > | > > ping {router/gateway address}

| > | > | > | > > ipconfig /all /batch {drive:\folder\file name - creates a

| > text

| > | > file

| > | > | > of

| > | > | > | all

| > | > | > | > IP-addies}

| > | > | > | > > tracert {ip address of router or other nodes}- trace route

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Other commands:

| > | > | > | > cfgwiz32 - ISDN config

| > | > | > | > clicfg - SQL client config

| > | > | > | > cmmgr32 - Connection Manager

| > | > | > | > cmmon32 - Connection Manager Monitor

| > | > | > | > dcomcnfg - Distributed COM Configuration

| > | > | > | > fixmapi - MAPI Repair Too

| > | > | > | > nbtstat - Displays protocol statistics and current TCP/IP

| > | > connections

| > | > | > | using

| > | > | > | > NBT(NetBIOS over TCP/IP).

| > | > | > | > net - Network Diagnostics and commands

| > | > | > | > netstat - TCP/IP Netstat Command - Displays protocol

| > statistics

| > | and

| > | > | > | current

| > | > | > | > TCP/IP network connections.

| > | > | > | > netwatch - Net Watcher

| > | > | > | > route - TCP/IP Route Command

| > | > | > | > winipcfg - graphic IP configuration

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Installing the Resouces Kit [or individual components if

| > | possible]

| > | > | > gives

| > | > | > | a

| > | > | > | > few more:

| > | > | > | > netmon - network monitor

| > | > | > | > poledit - policy editor

| > | > | > | > pwledit - password editor

| > | > | > | > rpcpp - RPC Print Provider (RPCPP

| > | > | > | > regsrv - remote registry

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > XP has some more:

| > | > | > | > bitsadmin - BITS administration utility

| > | > | > | > browstat - Browser Statistics Utility

| > | > | > | > dhcploc - Detects rogue DHCP server

| > | > | > | > dnscmd - DNS Command Line Admin Utility

| > | > | > | > getsid - {obvious}

| > | > | > | > httpcfg - http config util

| > | > | > | > ipseccmd - IPSec Command Utility

| > | > | > | > netcap - Generates a Network Monitor capture file

| > | > | > | > netdiag - Network Availability Test / diagnostics

| > | > | > | > netdom -

| > | > | > | > netset

| > | > | > | > nltest - MicrosoftR Logon Server Test Utility

| > | > | > | > pptp ping - pptp diag

| > | > | > | > rasdiag - remote access diag

| > | > | > | > rsdiag - remote storage diag

| > | > | > | > showaccs - show access

| > | > | > | > snmputil

| > | > | > | > snmputilg

| > | > | > | > whoami

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > I left out a few, so...

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > --

| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > | ---------

| > | > | > | I meant tracing route to ISP and resolve addresses to host

| > names,

| > | > i.e.

| > | > | > | determine the route to a destination and print out the list of

| > the

| > | > | > | intermediate routers. I need see what intermediate routeres

are

| > | > between

| > | > | > my

| > | > | > | pc and ISP. So I need use TRACERT command line utility. What

IP

| > need

| > | > be

| > | > | > | specified for tracert parameter, IP address or default gateway

| > | > address?

| > | > | > (i

| > | > | > | can see it from winipcfg)

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | tracert IP

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | thanks

| > | > | -----------

| > | > |

| > | > | I just need to know whether I directly connected to my ISP router,

| > or

| > | data

| > | > | may be transferred through some intermediate (nonlegitimate)

router

| > | which

| > | > | work as packet sniffer to intercept data for third-party person.

| > | > |

| > | > | S.

| > | > |

| > | >

| > | > AH, okay. You may have an ISP which is offered as other names in

| > | different

| > | > regions, or which sub-serves via other networks [leased access].

| > You're

| > | > interested in the hops and the returns [which should match]. Once

you

| > get

| > | > your names {or addresses if that is what's found}, do a whois if

| > necessary

| > | > and other tracing. Ping is useful as well.

| > | > Almost all ISPs have "lurkers" [registered users and hackers] doing

| > | router,

| > | > adapter, network, and firewall probes, so make sure all are set

| > properly.

| > | If

| > | > on a phone line your firewall is crucial [it is for other connection

| > | methods

| > | > as well], and MUST be properly setup.

| > | >

| > | > IF you have wireless, be aware there are numerous hack/sniff tools

| > that

| > | may

| > | > be used against that specific segment of your net.

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > |

| > | Thanks for the helpful info. If someone got my cable modem MAC number,

| > how

| > | this number can be used to identify my computer in a network?

| > |

| > | S.

| > |

| >

| > THAT would and does take a full understanding of packet creation,

transmit

| > headers, and other aspects too lengthy for this forum. However, there

are

| > a

| > number of web sites that have explained the TCP/IP protocol and how

| > networks

| > [the Internet is a network] use it, in depth.

| > The short is, MAC is used in conjunction with IP to form and direct the

| > packet/addressing, MAC CAN be used to identify specific adapters.

| > This is one way DSL, SAT, and cable providers identify their clients.

This

| > is also basically how cell phones are identified, GPS systems locate

you,

| > and other related things work, by identifying the actual specific

device.

| >

| > --

| -----------------------------------

| MAC can be used only to identify specific adapters, i.e. whether this

modem

| is online(switched on) or not? If provider, for whatever reason, want

| identify the computer where the message or email was sent from, they need

| know IP address, not MAC? If user is behind online anonymous proxy

server,

| there is no way to detect the computer where the message was sent from,

even

| if they know modem MAC address?

|

| S.

|

Short answer: you're wrong in your assumptions. Please check for packet

formation and other readily available information on the Internet. See also

how hackers attack servers and systems. MOST of the *old information* should

be considered as *historic reference* in value.

$Hundreds of billions were invested worldwide [software and hardware]

specifically to address tracking of illicit and illegal activities. Added

with new Laws erected in every U.N. and W.T.O. charter member nation,

anonymity and privacy is non-existent regardless of the technique used

[unless of course you happen to be some massive world corporation with a

massive legal staff].

Check [V-chip, S-chip, PID, UPnP, and the like] discussions/tech reviews;

look at DRM, Carnivore and D.I.R.T; and other documentation related to this

activity world wide [see such things as US government's demand for access to

ALL user data bases and compliance by almost all providers {health,

telecomm, cable, SAT, GPS, etc.; see same in England, Germany, and

elsewhere}] and think carefully about the ATX *always on/ready* computer.

SOME nations are more protective of their *citizens*, most are quite willing

to partake in the commercial enrichment that compliance provides.

Non-compliance [nation or business] brings economic impact and trade

restrictions.

Also consider: electronic equipment is REQUIRED to emit electronic signals

per standards, in conjunction with the new "military" satellites. All

*sensitive* computer and communication installations are housed in

Electro-emissive secured environments, and on closed networks [check the

number of attacks that some government installation receives, like the

Pentagon : also check the number of purported secure transmission protocols

that have been hacked, such as VPN and SSL, WEP, etc..]..Of course, those

who THINK they have nothing to hide or who believe they are hidden, either

don't know or think about these things, or don't care. This is all

verifiable via various U.N., W.T.O., government, news services, and other

records.

So if anyone still presents that P2P sharing is secured though anonymity,

or via anonymous servers, ignore them, their advise is not based upon the

present state of the world nor the technologies presently being used. Then

again, this is just my considered thoughts on these issues.

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/gen/security/sniffing.htm

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/ref/carnivore.htm

http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com/dirt.htm

One of your suggestions partially protects you, and that is turning

off/unplugging the modem or other network connection device. But that's only

partial. You can't ignore the other technologies available and being used,

that's like sticking your head in the sand thinking you're invisible.

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