Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

[Guest O.J. Newman]

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> Win Me has problems with drives larger than 137GB due to not supporting

> 48-bit LBA (which was only partially implemented in XP SP1 (Sept? 2002)

> and not fully until XP SP2 (August 2004).

>

 

Hi Mike!

 

Does the lack of 48-bit LBA mean:

 

1. That Win ME (and 98) can use hard drives larger than 137 MB, but that

only 137 MB will be recognized and available for use

 

- or -

 

2. That Win ME (and 98) will not even recognize drives larger than 137 MB,

and thus can not use them?

 

Could you please clarify how this works?

 

TIA,

O.J.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

O.J. Newman <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote:

> Hi Mike!

>

> Does the lack of 48-bit LBA mean:

>

> 1. That Win ME (and 98) can use hard drives larger than 137 MB, but

> that only 137 MB will be recognized and available for use

>

> - or -

>

> 2. That Win ME (and 98) will not even recognize drives larger than

> 137 MB, and thus can not use them?

>

 

Worse, you can see the drive and everything appears hunky dory but the

moment anything gets written beyond the 137GB boundary rather than being

in that part of the disk it is written to and probably overwriting data

earlier in the disk,

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

[Guest O.J. Newman]

Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only>

Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsme.general

Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:17 AM

Subject: Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

> O.J. Newman <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote:

>

>> Hi Mike!

>>

>> Does the lack of 48-bit LBA mean:

>>

>> 1. That Win ME (and 98) can use hard drives larger than 137 MB, but

>> that only 137 MB will be recognized and available for use

>>

>> - or -

>>

>> 2. That Win ME (and 98) will not even recognize drives larger than

>> 137 MB, and thus can not use them?

>>

>

> Worse, you can see the drive and everything appears hunky dory but the

> moment anything gets written beyond the 137GB boundary rather than being

> in that part of the disk it is written to and probably overwriting data

> earlier in the disk,

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

 

Hi Mike:

 

Thanks for the response!

 

So can I use a larger hard drive, say 160 MB, but format it to no larger

than 137 MB and be safe?

 

Thanks again,

O.J.

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

By Format I am assuming you mean Partition.

 

That should work, assuming your motherboard bios can see the drive,

although personally I wouldn't really recommend it.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

O.J. Newman <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the response!

>

> So can I use a larger hard drive, say 160 MB, but format it to no

> larger than 137 MB and be safe?

[Guest O.J. Newman]

Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

 

"Mike M" <No_Spam@Corned_Beef.Only> wrote in message

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> By Format I am assuming you mean Partition.

>

> That should work, assuming your motherboard bios can see the drive,

> although personally I wouldn't really recommend it.

> --

> Mike Maltby

> mike.maltby@gmail.com

>

>

> O.J. Newman <ojn@zoominternet.net> wrote:

>

>> Thanks for the response!

>>

>> So can I use a larger hard drive, say 160 MB, but format it to no

>> larger than 137 MB and be safe?

>

 

Thanks again Mike!

 

O.J.

[Guest Greegor]

Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

Can this problem be overcome with an LBA 48 controller card and a

driver?

 

There's no such limit on an external USB drive is there?

 

How about when Win ME is installed on a system with

SATA ports and ME drivers for those?

 

Isn't the sector wraparound problem just the result of

hardware that didn't have the most significant bit

(binary digit) implemented?

 

Didn't some hardware handle that bit just fine?

 

For completeness, would an SCSI controller/HD

have a counterpart of this LBA limitation?

 

 

To me, using Win ME for internet access, it seems

that the ideal boot drive size, generous enough

to hold browser, plugins, firewall, anti-spyware,

antivirus and have room for downloading would

be 4 GB. I would even advise that should be the

actual drive size and NOT a partition on a larger one.

 

Bigger than that I find slows down Virusscan,

scandisk(deep) and defrag more than it's worth.

 

By the very nature of a large hard disk it

will get maintained less often and that's bad.

 

How long would it take to run a deep scandisk

on a 137GB hard disk under Win ME?

 

Who's actually going to run a 10 hour virus scan,

a 20 hour scandisk or a 15 hour defrag?

 

( These kinds of issues don't go away

on Win XP or Vista, do they? )

[Guest Mike M]

Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

Again, reading the entire thread might be of some benefit to you. 48 LBA

has to be supported both by the bios and the driver. Win Me has no such

driver.

--

Mike Maltby

mike.maltby@gmail.com

 

 

Greegor <Greegor47@gmail.com> wrote:

> Can this problem be overcome with an LBA 48 controller card and a

> driver?

>

> There's no such limit on an external USB drive is there?

>

> How about when Win ME is installed on a system with

> SATA ports and ME drivers for those?

>

> Isn't the sector wraparound problem just the result of

> hardware that didn't have the most significant bit

> (binary digit) implemented?

>

> Didn't some hardware handle that bit just fine?

>

> For completeness, would an SCSI controller/HD

> have a counterpart of this LBA limitation?

>

>

> To me, using Win ME for internet access, it seems

> that the ideal boot drive size, generous enough

> to hold browser, plugins, firewall, anti-spyware,

> antivirus and have room for downloading would

> be 4 GB. I would even advise that should be the

> actual drive size and NOT a partition on a larger one.

>

> Bigger than that I find slows down Virusscan,

> scandisk(deep) and defrag more than it's worth.

>

> By the very nature of a large hard disk it

> will get maintained less often and that's bad.

>

> How long would it take to run a deep scandisk

> on a 137GB hard disk under Win ME?

>

> Who's actually going to run a 10 hour virus scan,

> a 20 hour scandisk or a 15 hour defrag?

>

> ( These kinds of issues don't go away

> on Win XP or Vista, do they? )

[Guest Claudehl@aol.com]

Re: Max Win ME Hard Drive Size?

 

There is no such problem with a SCSI drive.

 

On Apr 22, 1:17�pm, Greegor <Greego...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For completeness, would an SCSI controller/HD

> have a counterpart of this LBA limitation?