Guest Jim Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 Hello, I have an Ethernet connection to xdsl High Speed Internet. The Primary Network Logon is set at Windows Logon, such that when users logon on to windows they are logging on to network at the same time. Since there is no Network Logon with this configuration and many online AS and AV and FW that make system calls to the disk, I am having problems running the maintenance programs like Scandisk and Defragmentation. If I drop the FW while online the system will get hammered. If I go into Safe Mode, does this disconnect the machine from the internet so I can run these programs?
Guest Brian A. Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 Re: safe mode "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message news:ekXKImAnIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hello, > I have an Ethernet connection to xdsl High Speed Internet. The Primary > Network Logon is set at Windows Logon, such that when users logon on to > windows they are logging on to network at the same time. Since there is no > Network Logon with this configuration and many online AS and AV and FW that > make system calls to the disk, I am having problems running the maintenance > programs like Scandisk and Defragmentation. If I drop the FW while online > the system will get hammered. If I go into Safe Mode, does this disconnect > the machine from the internet so I can run these programs? > > You will not have web access while in Safe Mode and it's better to run Scandisk/Defrag in Safe Mode anyway since only the minimal drivers and software needed to run are loaded, therefore reducing any interference. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Guest Fan924 Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Re: safe mode FYI ..... If you want a way to easily connect and reconnect to the internet, create a shortcut to C:\windows\winipcfg.exe. Then simply select "release" or "renew".
Guest Fan924 Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Re: safe mode FYI ..... If you want a way to easily disconnect and reconnect to the internet, create a shortcut to C:\windows\winipcfg.exe. Then simply select "release" or "renew".
Guest Jim Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Re: safe mode I have this shortcut on the desktop. I have used that to put the machine into standby mode when on public ip pass thru, however with ICS on the device driver will not allow the standby mode. The ip address would be 0.0.0.0 for ipv4. Although this is not an assigned or meaningful ip address, it does not mean that it is [protected]. I really am not certain about 0.0.0.0. or 1.1.1.1. The link local is 169.254.x.x is another ip assigned address that does not allow for access to the internet...but does not specify whether or not it is a [protected mode] ip. The ICS is 192.x.x.x with subnet 255.x.x.x depending on the size of the subnets. It has basic NAT for the subnets, but here to not necessarily [protected mode] of operation, and not for the gateway. A good point worth investigating though. "Fan924" <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f734235-62c4-4121-8828-3029321d4a0d@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com... > FYI ..... If you want a way to easily disconnect and reconnect to the > internet, create a shortcut to C:\windows\winipcfg.exe. Then simply > select "release" or "renew".
Guest Jim Posted April 12, 2008 Posted April 12, 2008 Re: safe mode Brian, you say no web access from this side but what about from the outside internet? Is safe mode [safe] from the continuous port scanning and connection attempts etc. of the internet? "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message news:u9Wrs9AnIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message > news:ekXKImAnIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Hello, > > I have an Ethernet connection to xdsl High Speed Internet. The Primary > > Network Logon is set at Windows Logon, such that when users logon on to > > windows they are logging on to network at the same time. Since there is no > > Network Logon with this configuration and many online AS and AV and FW that > > make system calls to the disk, I am having problems running the maintenance > > programs like Scandisk and Defragmentation. If I drop the FW while online > > the system will get hammered. If I go into Safe Mode, does this disconnect > > the machine from the internet so I can run these programs? > > > > > > You will not have web access while in Safe Mode and it's better to run > Scandisk/Defrag in Safe Mode anyway since only the minimal drivers and software > needed to run are loaded, therefore reducing any interference. > > -- > > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } > Conflicts start where information lacks. > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > >
Guest Brian A. Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Re: safe mode There is no network connection either way in Safe Mode. -- Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } Conflicts start where information lacks. http://basconotw.mvps.org/ Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message news:uZyXtNMnIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Brian, you say no web access from this side but what about from the outside > internet? Is safe mode [safe] from the continuous port scanning and > connection attempts etc. of the internet? > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message > news:u9Wrs9AnIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message >> news:ekXKImAnIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> > Hello, >> > I have an Ethernet connection to xdsl High Speed Internet. The Primary >> > Network Logon is set at Windows Logon, such that when users logon on to >> > windows they are logging on to network at the same time. Since there is > no >> > Network Logon with this configuration and many online AS and AV and FW > that >> > make system calls to the disk, I am having problems running the > maintenance >> > programs like Scandisk and Defragmentation. If I drop the FW while > online >> > the system will get hammered. If I go into Safe Mode, does this > disconnect >> > the machine from the internet so I can run these programs? >> > >> > >> >> You will not have web access while in Safe Mode and it's better to run >> Scandisk/Defrag in Safe Mode anyway since only the minimal drivers and > software >> needed to run are loaded, therefore reducing any interference. >> >> -- >> >> >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } >> Conflicts start where information lacks. >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/ >> >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 >> >> > >
Guest Jim Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Re: safe mode Thanks for clarifying that point. I thought that was so; It is better to know than to assume. "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message news:OT6OL6PnIHA.1680@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > There is no network connection either way in Safe Mode. > > -- > > > Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } > Conflicts start where information lacks. > http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > > Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > > > "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message > news:uZyXtNMnIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > Brian, you say no web access from this side but what about from the outside > > internet? Is safe mode [safe] from the continuous port scanning and > > connection attempts etc. of the internet? > > > > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message > > news:u9Wrs9AnIHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message > >> news:ekXKImAnIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > >> > Hello, > >> > I have an Ethernet connection to xdsl High Speed Internet. The Primary > >> > Network Logon is set at Windows Logon, such that when users logon on to > >> > windows they are logging on to network at the same time. Since there is > > no > >> > Network Logon with this configuration and many online AS and AV and FW > > that > >> > make system calls to the disk, I am having problems running the > > maintenance > >> > programs like Scandisk and Defragmentation. If I drop the FW while > > online > >> > the system will get hammered. If I go into Safe Mode, does this > > disconnect > >> > the machine from the internet so I can run these programs? > >> > > >> > > >> > >> You will not have web access while in Safe Mode and it's better to run > >> Scandisk/Defrag in Safe Mode anyway since only the minimal drivers and > > software > >> needed to run are loaded, therefore reducing any interference. > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Brian A. Sesko { MS MVP_Windows Desktop User Experience } > >> Conflicts start where information lacks. > >> http://basconotw.mvps.org/ > >> > >> Suggested posting do's/don'ts: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm > >> How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 > >> > >> > > > > >
Guest Franc Zabkar Posted April 13, 2008 Posted April 13, 2008 Re: safe mode On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:54:34 -0400, "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed: >Thanks for clarifying that point. I thought that was so; It is better to >know than to assume. > >"Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message >news:OT6OL6PnIHA.1680@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> There is no network connection either way in Safe Mode. Maybe the online help for win.com can put your mind at rest. AISI, you can have Safe Mode with (F6) or without (F5) networking. =================================================================== C:\WINDOWS>win /? Starts Windows. WIN [/D:[F][M][V][X]] /D Used for troubleshooting when Windows does not start correctly. :F Turns off 32-bit disk access. Equivalent to SYSTEM.INI file setting: 32BitDiskAccess=FALSE. :M Enables Safe mode. This is automatically enabled during Safe start (function key F5). :N Enables Safe mode with networking. This is automatically enabled during Safe start (function key F6). =================================================================== - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
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