Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 banks and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 MB RAM. I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.
Guest Jeff Richards Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory limit or boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory hole or gap at 16Mb? -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 > banks > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 MB > RAM. > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's "blue" and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - "limit memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail "Jeff Richards" wrote: > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory limit or > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory hole or > gap at 16Mb? > -- > Jeff Richards > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 > > banks > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 MB > > RAM. > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. > > >
Guest philo Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's "blue" > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - "limit > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory limit or > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory hole or > > gap at 16Mb? > > -- > > Jeff Richards > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 > > > banks > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 MB > > > RAM. > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. > > > > > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying to get windows to detect it. My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there and changed the cmos battery. With the power cord disconnected, open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM. then make sure the bios detects the full amount
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 I did that. I pulled both and reinstalled them to no avail. I thought about switching them into slots 3 & 4 but I wasn't sure if that would do any harm. "philo" wrote: > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's "blue" > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - > "limit > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory > limit or > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory > hole or > > > gap at 16Mb? > > > -- > > > Jeff Richards > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 > > > > banks > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 > MB > > > > RAM. > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying to get > windows to detect it. > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there and > changed the cmos battery. > With the power cord disconnected, > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM. > then make sure the bios detects the full amount > > >
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only have two 32 MB sticks? Why not 32? "philo" wrote: > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's "blue" > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - > "limit > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory > limit or > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory > hole or > > > gap at 16Mb? > > > -- > > > Jeff Richards > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 > > > > banks > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 > MB > > > > RAM. > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying to get > windows to detect it. > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there and > changed the cmos battery. > With the power cord disconnected, > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM. > then make sure the bios detects the full amount > > >
Guest philo Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CDA53288-2D90-4E19-A9CB-9F8EBF032A4A@microsoft.com... > Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only have two 32 > MB sticks? Why not 32? > Well...the RAM may have gotten "zapped" by static when you opened the case and possibly made contact with the RAM. If even one stick of RAM has been damaged, you may see some small odd amount .. If you have any spare ram sticks give them a try... be sure to use caution > > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's "blue" > > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - > > "limit > > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail > > > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > > > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory > > limit or > > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory > > hole or > > > > gap at 16Mb? > > > > -- > > > > Jeff Richards > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my > > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 > > > > > banks > > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had > > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 > > MB > > > > > RAM. > > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying to get > > windows to detect it. > > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there and > > changed the cmos battery. > > With the power cord disconnected, > > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM. > > then make sure the bios detects the full amount > > > > > >
Guest Fan924 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 Who makes the bios in your machine? Is there a version number?
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 American Magatrends, Inc V. 1.00.04.DNOR "Fan924" wrote: > Who makes the bios in your machine? Is there a version number? > >
Guest Fan924 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 Did you try to reset the bios to default values?
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 Sad to say I don't have any. "philo" wrote: > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:CDA53288-2D90-4E19-A9CB-9F8EBF032A4A@microsoft.com... > > Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only have two > 32 > > MB sticks? Why not 32? > > > > > Well...the RAM may have gotten "zapped" by static when you opened the case > and possibly made contact with the RAM. > If even one stick of RAM has been damaged, you may see some small odd amount > .. > > If you have any spare ram sticks give them a try... > be sure to use caution > > > > > > > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > > > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's > "blue" > > > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - > > > "limit > > > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > > > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail > > > > > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory > > > limit or > > > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory > > > hole or > > > > > gap at 16Mb? > > > > > -- > > > > > Jeff Richards > > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > > > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started > my > > > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - > 32 > > > > > > banks > > > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I > had > > > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the > 64 > > > MB > > > > > > RAM. > > > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying to > get > > > windows to detect it. > > > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there and > > > changed the cmos battery. > > > With the power cord disconnected, > > > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM. > > > then make sure the bios detects the full amount > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest philo Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:EF1CB7D0-4EF1-4D45-B63A-F709D8B3BF03@microsoft.com... > Sad to say I don't have any. > Try removing the RAM again and be sure the contacts are clean. be sure to take caution for static discharge. the contacts can be cleaned with a pencil eraser, the be sure to wipe off any residue. look in the machine and blow any dust from the slots... then reseat the RAM or possibly try the other two slots. If you cannot get the full 64 megs detected... if you have a computer repair shop in town...they may be kind enough to just give you some replacement sticks or sell them at a low price. A few 32 megs sticks should not cost much > "philo" wrote: > > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:CDA53288-2D90-4E19-A9CB-9F8EBF032A4A@microsoft.com... > > > Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only have two > > 32 > > > MB sticks? Why not 32? > > > > > > > > > Well...the RAM may have gotten "zapped" by static when you opened the case > > and possibly made contact with the RAM. > > If even one stick of RAM has been damaged, you may see some small odd amount > > .. > > > > If you have any spare ram sticks give them a try... > > be sure to use caution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > > > > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's > > "blue" > > > > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - > > > > "limit > > > > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > > > > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail > > > > > > > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory > > > > limit or > > > > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory > > > > hole or > > > > > > gap at 16Mb? > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jeff Richards > > > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > > > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > > > > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started > > my > > > > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - > > 32 > > > > > > > banks > > > > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I > > had > > > > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the > > 64 > > > > MB > > > > > > > RAM. > > > > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying to > > get > > > > windows to detect it. > > > > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there and > > > > changed the cmos battery. > > > > With the power cord disconnected, > > > > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM. > > > > then make sure the bios detects the full amount > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Guest Fan924 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 Go into the AMI BIOS Setup utility. Copy down your current bios setup so you can put it all back if this does not work. To set your PC to its default values, Select: AUTO CONFIGURATION WITH BIOS DEFAULTS
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 Yes, but to no avail. I'm begining to think the memory went bad. I'm really careful to discharge any static before I go inside, but.... ? "Fan924" wrote: > Did you try to reset the bios to default values? > >
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 How do I get into the AMI BIOS set up? F1 setup won't allow me into the BIOS settings. But F1 is where I reset the default settings, and I thought that would reset BIOS too. "Fan924" wrote: > Go into the AMI BIOS Setup utility. > Copy down your current bios setup so you can put it all back if this > does not work. > > To set your PC to its default values, Select: > AUTO CONFIGURATION WITH BIOS DEFAULTS > > >
Guest Fan924 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup.
Guest Fan924 Posted April 14, 2008 Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 I have an old AMI bios manual here. In this version, it does not auto detect external memory size. You have to enter the bios and change the memory size when you add memory cards. When you pulled the battery, you lost any customizing done to your bios settings.
Guest NCVET61 Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that does. I appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!! "Fan924" wrote: > I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup. > >
Guest philo Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:264C2292-DD28-4947-9AAE-57F14924026F@microsoft.com... > It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that does. I > appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!! > > "Fan924" wrote: > > > I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup. > > > > Hope you get your machine working.. Please post back with the results
Guest MEB Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 "Fan924" <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:5c2c51eb-b11d-412c-8867-9de49e2c074d@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com... | I have an old AMI bios manual here. In this version, it does not auto | detect external memory size. You have to enter the bios and change the | memory size when you add memory cards. | | When you pulled the battery, you lost any customizing done to your | bios settings. American Magatrends, Inc V. 1.00.04.DNOR Press DEL or INS to enter BIOS setup. There may be a need for one of two tools, one called AMIDIAG.[once free from AMI - advanced configuration/diagnostic utility] and/or AMISETUP [Robert Muchsel - advanced AMI BIOS setup], or another BIOS tool. You may still find the free or shareware AMI tools on the Internet. http://www.ami.com/support/bios.cfm - AMI BIOS support ---- AMI BIOS beep codes Indicator Message One Short Beep - DRAM Refresh Failure Two Short Beeps - Parity Circuit Failure Three Short Beeps - Base 64k RAM Failure Four Short Beeps - System Timer Failure Five Short Beeps - Processor Failure Six Short Beeps - Keyboard Controller Error Seven Short Beeps - Virtual Mode Exception Error Eight Short Beeps - Display Memory Failure Nine Short Beeps - ROM BIOS Checksum Failure One Long and Three Short Beeps - Base/Extended Memory Failure One Long and Eight Short Beeps - Display/Retrace Test Failure -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com -- _________
Guest Jeff Richards Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 That "Limit Memory To ?" setting is the one that's causing the problem. You need to get it unchecked somehow. If you can find a manual for BIOS setup it may explain why it's checked and set to 16, and how to clear it. -- Jeff Richards MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's "blue" > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - > "limit > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail >
Guest philo Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 "Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message news:OBcwtHunIHA.5280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > That "Limit Memory To ?" setting is the one that's causing the problem. You > need to get it unchecked somehow. If you can find a manual for BIOS setup > it may explain why it's checked and set to 16, and how to clear it. Here is an AMI BIOS data sheet someone had posted: http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/HARDWARE/ami-bios-beeps.txt Though I agree that *if *the bios has a 16 meg RAM limit setting...that would be the solution... There appears to be no such uption. I'd of course have another look in the bios at *all* options. The OP mentioned that he observed that option in msconfig... which of course is only going to list what the BIOS detects > Jeff Richards > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User) > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com... > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's "blue" > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, - > > "limit > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail > > > >
Guest Ben Myers Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com... > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32 banks > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 MB RAM. > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail. Double-check the memory modules to make sure they are really 32 megabytes. Please note that 32 bit is not the same thing as 32 megabytes. Also, the 16 megabytes you are seeing may be built into the motherboard. To see if this is the case, try booting the computer without the modules. Ben
Guest Buffalo Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 NCVET61 wrote: > It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that > does. I appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!! > > "Fan924" wrote: > >> I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup. Have you been able to get into the BIOS yet?
Guest Buffalo Posted April 15, 2008 Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64 NCVET61 wrote: > It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that > does. I appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!! > > "Fan924" wrote: > >> I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup. I would be surprised if the memory went bad. You really need to get into the BIOS and set it up, I believe. If you have your BIOS version and your model number of your PC, the info on how to do this is should be available. One question though, was this computer not in use for years and then when you tried it, you found the MB battery dead? When you get if fixed, please post back. Thanks
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