Guest David Orazine Posted April 16, 2008 Posted April 16, 2008 I have a domain, with a PDC emulator, and a BDC. The PDC gets time from an external source, and the BDC gets its time from the PDC. Then BDC is then the server for all of the member servers and clients on the network. One of the member servers w32time service is reporting an even ID 38: Event Type: Information Event Source: W32Time Event Category: None Event ID: 38 Date: 04-16-2008 Time: 11:52:42 User: N/A Computer: TITAN Description: The time provider NtpClient cannot reach or is currently receiving invalid time data from dc02.domain.lan (ntp.d|172.18.1.15:123->172.18.1.5:123). For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. (This is from syncing with the BDC, but every other source returns the same results. I have tired switch time servers to an external source and the PDC. I have also tried to shut down both of their fire walls, nothing. They both have 2 different adapters, on 2 different subnets if this is a problem. Does anyone know any way to fix this problem. Thank you in advanced, David Orazine Kubotek USA
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Strange w32time problem Hello David, Multihoming Domain controllers is not recommended and can create a lot of problems. Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from both machines and describe for what reason you need the different sbunets on one machine. Maybe we can find a better solution. Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > I have a domain, with a PDC emulator, and a BDC. The PDC gets time > from an external source, and the BDC gets its time from the PDC. Then > BDC is then the server for all of the member servers and clients on > the network. One of the member servers w32time service is reporting an > even ID 38: > > Event Type: Information > Event Source: W32Time > Event Category: None > Event ID: 38 > Date: 04-16-2008 > Time: 11:52:42 > User: N/A > Computer: TITAN > Description: > The time provider NtpClient cannot reach or is currently receiving > invalid > time data from dc02.domain.lan > (ntp.d|172.18.1.15:123->172.18.1.5:123). > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > > (This is from syncing with the BDC, but every other source returns the > same results. > > I have tired switch time servers to an external source and the PDC. I > have also tried to shut down both of their fire walls, nothing. > > They both have 2 different adapters, on 2 different subnets if this is > a problem. > > Does anyone know any way to fix this problem. > > Thank you in advanced, > David Orazine > Kubotek USA
Guest David Orazine Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Strange w32time problem Here is the ipconfig output DC01 (PDC Emulator) Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc01 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Ethernet adapter Private: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD Client) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E6 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Ethernet adapter Domain: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : kubotekusa.lan Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD Client) #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 172.18.1.5 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 DC02 (BDC) Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc02 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Ethernet adapter Domain: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 172.18.1.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 Ethernet adapter Private: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A3 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Noe that the second interface does not have any DNS or WINS resolution. It is just a backbone for backing up data to the media serer. I am using the FQDNS names as required by win32time as well. Thank you, David Orazine "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello David, > > Multihoming Domain controllers is not recommended and can create a lot of > problems. Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from both machines and describe > for what reason you need the different sbunets on one machine. Maybe we can > find a better solution. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > I have a domain, with a PDC emulator, and a BDC. The PDC gets time > > from an external source, and the BDC gets its time from the PDC. Then > > BDC is then the server for all of the member servers and clients on > > the network. One of the member servers w32time service is reporting an > > even ID 38: > > > > Event Type: Information > > Event Source: W32Time > > Event Category: None > > Event ID: 38 > > Date: 04-16-2008 > > Time: 11:52:42 > > User: N/A > > Computer: TITAN > > Description: > > The time provider NtpClient cannot reach or is currently receiving > > invalid > > time data from dc02.domain.lan > > (ntp.d|172.18.1.15:123->172.18.1.5:123). > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > > > > (This is from syncing with the BDC, but every other source returns the > > same results. > > > > I have tired switch time servers to an external source and the PDC. I > > have also tried to shut down both of their fire walls, nothing. > > > > They both have 2 different adapters, on 2 different subnets if this is > > a problem. > > > > Does anyone know any way to fix this problem. > > > > Thank you in advanced, > > David Orazine > > Kubotek USA > > >
Guest David Orazine Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Strange w32time problem Here is the ipconfig output DC01 (PDC Emulator) Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc01 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Ethernet adapter Private: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD Client) Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E6 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Ethernet adapter Domain: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : kubotekusa.lan Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS VBD Client) #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E4 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 172.18.1.5 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 DC02 (BDC) Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc02 Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan Ethernet adapter Domain: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A2 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 172.18.1.2 Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 Ethernet adapter Private: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A3 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled Noe that the second interface does not have any DNS or WINS resolution. It is just a backbone for backing up data to the media serer. I am using the FQDNS names as required by win32time as well. Thank you, David Orazine "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello David, > > Multihoming Domain controllers is not recommended and can create a lot of > problems. Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from both machines and describe > for what reason you need the different sbunets on one machine. Maybe we can > find a better solution. > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > I have a domain, with a PDC emulator, and a BDC. The PDC gets time > > from an external source, and the BDC gets its time from the PDC. Then > > BDC is then the server for all of the member servers and clients on > > the network. One of the member servers w32time service is reporting an > > even ID 38: > > > > Event Type: Information > > Event Source: W32Time > > Event Category: None > > Event ID: 38 > > Date: 04-16-2008 > > Time: 11:52:42 > > User: N/A > > Computer: TITAN > > Description: > > The time provider NtpClient cannot reach or is currently receiving > > invalid > > time data from dc02.domain.lan > > (ntp.d|172.18.1.15:123->172.18.1.5:123). > > For more information, see Help and Support Center at > > http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > > > > (This is from syncing with the BDC, but every other source returns the > > same results. > > > > I have tired switch time servers to an external source and the PDC. I > > have also tried to shut down both of their fire walls, nothing. > > > > They both have 2 different adapters, on 2 different subnets if this is > > a problem. > > > > Does anyone know any way to fix this problem. > > > > Thank you in advanced, > > David Orazine > > Kubotek USA > > >
Guest Meinolf Weber Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Strange w32time problem Hello David, Did you check that the member server is in the same time zone and also the time difference is not more then 5 minutes? Best regards Meinolf Weber Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights. ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > Here is the ipconfig output > > DC01 (PDC Emulator) > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc01 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > Ethernet adapter Private: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II > GigE > (NDIS VBD Client) > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E6 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > Ethernet adapter Domain: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : kubotekusa.lan > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II > GigE > (NDIS VBD Client) #2 > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E4 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > 172.18.1.5 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > DC02 (BDC) > > Windows IP Configuration > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc02 > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > Ethernet adapter Domain: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit > Ethernet #2 > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A2 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 > 172.18.1.2 > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > Ethernet adapter Private: > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit > Ethernet > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A3 > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3 > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > Noe that the second interface does not have any DNS or WINS > resolution. It is just a backbone for backing up data to the media > serer. I am using the FQDNS names as required by win32time as well. > > Thank you, > David Orazine > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > >> Hello David, >> >> Multihoming Domain controllers is not recommended and can create a >> lot of problems. Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from both >> machines and describe for what reason you need the different sbunets >> on one machine. Maybe we can find a better solution. >> >> Best regards >> >> Meinolf Weber >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and >> confers >> no rights. >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm >>> I have a domain, with a PDC emulator, and a BDC. The PDC gets time >>> from an external source, and the BDC gets its time from the PDC. >>> Then BDC is then the server for all of the member servers and >>> clients on the network. One of the member servers w32time service is >>> reporting an even ID 38: >>> >>> Event Type: Information >>> Event Source: W32Time >>> Event Category: None >>> Event ID: 38 >>> Date: 04-16-2008 >>> Time: 11:52:42 >>> User: N/A >>> Computer: TITAN >>> Description: >>> The time provider NtpClient cannot reach or is currently receiving >>> invalid >>> time data from dc02.domain.lan >>> (ntp.d|172.18.1.15:123->172.18.1.5:123). >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. >>> (This is from syncing with the BDC, but every other source returns >>> the same results. >>> >>> I have tired switch time servers to an external source and the PDC. >>> I have also tried to shut down both of their fire walls, nothing. >>> >>> They both have 2 different adapters, on 2 different subnets if this >>> is a problem. >>> >>> Does anyone know any way to fix this problem. >>> >>> Thank you in advanced, >>> David Orazine >>> Kubotek USA
Guest David Orazine Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Strange w32time problem Yes, they are less then 5 minutes apart and they are both are set for -5 (EST). Thank you, David Orazine "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > Hello David, > > Did you check that the member server is in the same time zone and also the > time difference is not more then 5 minutes? > > Best regards > > Meinolf Weber > Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers > no rights. > ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > > > Here is the ipconfig output > > > > DC01 (PDC Emulator) > > > > Windows IP Configuration > > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc01 > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > > Ethernet adapter Private: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II > > GigE > > (NDIS VBD Client) > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E6 > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > Ethernet adapter Domain: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : kubotekusa.lan > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II > > GigE > > (NDIS VBD Client) #2 > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1A-64-0A-1A-E4 > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > > 172.18.1.5 > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > > DC02 (BDC) > > > > Windows IP Configuration > > > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc02 > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : kubotekusa.lan > > Ethernet adapter Domain: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit > > Ethernet #2 > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A2 > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.1 > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.5 > > 172.18.1.2 > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.18.1.2 > > Ethernet adapter Private: > > > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit > > Ethernet > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-56-BC-44-A3 > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No > > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3 > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled > > Noe that the second interface does not have any DNS or WINS > > resolution. It is just a backbone for backing up data to the media > > serer. I am using the FQDNS names as required by win32time as well. > > > > Thank you, > > David Orazine > > "Meinolf Weber" wrote: > > > >> Hello David, > >> > >> Multihoming Domain controllers is not recommended and can create a > >> lot of problems. Please post an unedited ipconfig /all from both > >> machines and describe for what reason you need the different sbunets > >> on one machine. Maybe we can find a better solution. > >> > >> Best regards > >> > >> Meinolf Weber > >> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and > >> confers > >> no rights. > >> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups > >> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm > >>> I have a domain, with a PDC emulator, and a BDC. The PDC gets time > >>> from an external source, and the BDC gets its time from the PDC. > >>> Then BDC is then the server for all of the member servers and > >>> clients on the network. One of the member servers w32time service is > >>> reporting an even ID 38: > >>> > >>> Event Type: Information > >>> Event Source: W32Time > >>> Event Category: None > >>> Event ID: 38 > >>> Date: 04-16-2008 > >>> Time: 11:52:42 > >>> User: N/A > >>> Computer: TITAN > >>> Description: > >>> The time provider NtpClient cannot reach or is currently receiving > >>> invalid > >>> time data from dc02.domain.lan > >>> (ntp.d|172.18.1.15:123->172.18.1.5:123). > >>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at > >>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp. > >>> (This is from syncing with the BDC, but every other source returns > >>> the same results. > >>> > >>> I have tired switch time servers to an external source and the PDC. > >>> I have also tried to shut down both of their fire walls, nothing. > >>> > >>> They both have 2 different adapters, on 2 different subnets if this > >>> is a problem. > >>> > >>> Does anyone know any way to fix this problem. > >>> > >>> Thank you in advanced, > >>> David Orazine > >>> Kubotek USA > > >
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