Guest BAP Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? Thanks!
Guest Mike Y Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? > Thanks! Well, when I installed Avast on my daughters machine (Win98SE) recently, it wanted to install a 'boot check'. When it rebooted, before ANY graphics came up, it started a full deep-scan of the system. So, at least I know it can do it, but I don't know how it set the flag to do it. It only did it the first time it ran. Might be interesting to install it on a fresh system and just see what it put into the startup to make it work.
Guest philo Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software "Mike Y" <joe@user.com> wrote in message news:txGNj.3$vx7.2@newsfe02.lga... > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > any > > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > System > > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > using a > > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > Prompt? > > Thanks! > > Well, when I installed Avast on my daughters machine (Win98SE) recently, it > wanted to install a 'boot check'. When it rebooted, before ANY graphics > came > up, it started a full deep-scan of the system. So, at least I know it can > do it, > but I don't know how it set the flag to do it. It only did it the first > time it ran. > Might be interesting to install it on a fresh system and just see what it > put into > the startup to make it work. > > AVG also has the option to make a set of rescue disks However I believe win98 will not be supported by Grisoft for much longer
Guest RJK Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Hi, I use a "paid for version" of AVG+anti-spyware, and just waded through all the menus - couldn't find a "make a set of rescue disks" option, (perhaps not available in my XP version? ...yeah yeah I know this is W98 NG :-), but, would be a handy tool. TIA regards, Richard "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message news:eOWraQIoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > "Mike Y" <joe@user.com> wrote in message > news:txGNj.3$vx7.2@newsfe02.lga... >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >> > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know > if >> any >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a >> System >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by >> using a >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: >> Prompt? >> > Thanks! >> >> Well, when I installed Avast on my daughters machine (Win98SE) recently, > it >> wanted to install a 'boot check'. When it rebooted, before ANY graphics >> came >> up, it started a full deep-scan of the system. So, at least I know it >> can >> do it, >> but I don't know how it set the flag to do it. It only did it the first >> time it ran. >> Might be interesting to install it on a fresh system and just see what it >> put into >> the startup to make it work. >> >> > > > AVG also has the option to make a set of rescue disks > > However I believe win98 will not be supported by Grisoft for much longer > >
Guest easymike29 via WindowsKB.com Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software F-Prot for Dos Gene BAP wrote: >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can >download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any >of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System >may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a >Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? >Thanks! -- Message posted via WindowsKB.com http://www.windowskb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/windows-98-general/200804/1
Guest Mart Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Extracts from AVG 7.5 Free "Help" pages :- "AVG Rescue Disk is not supported by Windows XP and higher operating systems". Hence, the option :- "The tool for creating the Rescue Disk is the Rescue Disk Wizard, which can be launched from any AVG interface, by pressing the Rescue Disk shortcut button, or from the system menu Service -> Rescue Disk." option does not appear in XP, only in Win9x. NTFS issues. Mart "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OucnZgIoIHA.5836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Hi, > > I use a "paid for version" of AVG+anti-spyware, and just waded through > all the menus - couldn't find a "make a set of rescue disks" option, > (perhaps not available in my XP version? ...yeah yeah I know this is W98 > NG :-), but, would be a handy tool. > > TIA > > regards, Richard > > > > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:eOWraQIoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> "Mike Y" <joe@user.com> wrote in message >> news:txGNj.3$vx7.2@newsfe02.lga... >>> >>> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >>> > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one >>> > can >>> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know >> if >>> any >>> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a >>> System >>> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by >>> using a >>> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: >>> Prompt? >>> > Thanks! >>> >>> Well, when I installed Avast on my daughters machine (Win98SE) recently, >> it >>> wanted to install a 'boot check'. When it rebooted, before ANY graphics >>> came >>> up, it started a full deep-scan of the system. So, at least I know it >>> can >>> do it, >>> but I don't know how it set the flag to do it. It only did it the first >>> time it ran. >>> Might be interesting to install it on a fresh system and just see what >>> it >>> put into >>> the startup to make it work. >>> >>> >> >> >> AVG also has the option to make a set of rescue disks >> >> However I believe win98 will not be supported by Grisoft for much longer >> >> > >
Guest RJK Posted April 17, 2008 Posted April 17, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Thanks for that, ...I half-suspected it was an issue with NTFS :-( .....back to updating David H lipmans' "multi-av" :-) regards, Richard "Mart" <mart(NoSpam)@nospam.nospam> wrote in message news:OP$KTvJoIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Extracts from AVG 7.5 Free "Help" pages :- > > "AVG Rescue Disk is not supported by Windows XP and higher operating > systems". > > Hence, the option :- "The tool for creating the Rescue Disk is the Rescue > Disk Wizard, which can be launched from any AVG interface, by pressing the > Rescue Disk shortcut button, or from the system menu Service -> Rescue > Disk." option does not appear in XP, only in Win9x. NTFS issues. > > Mart > > > "RJK" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OucnZgIoIHA.5836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Hi, >> >> I use a "paid for version" of AVG+anti-spyware, and just waded through >> all the menus - couldn't find a "make a set of rescue disks" option, >> (perhaps not available in my XP version? ...yeah yeah I know this is W98 >> NG :-), but, would be a handy tool. >> >> TIA >> >> regards, Richard >> >> >> >> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message >> news:eOWraQIoIHA.4672@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> >>> "Mike Y" <joe@user.com> wrote in message >>> news:txGNj.3$vx7.2@newsfe02.lga... >>>> >>>> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >>>> > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one >>>> > can >>>> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not >>>> > know >>> if >>>> any >>>> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when >>>> > a >>>> System >>>> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by >>>> using a >>>> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: >>>> Prompt? >>>> > Thanks! >>>> >>>> Well, when I installed Avast on my daughters machine (Win98SE) >>>> recently, >>> it >>>> wanted to install a 'boot check'. When it rebooted, before ANY >>>> graphics >>>> came >>>> up, it started a full deep-scan of the system. So, at least I know it >>>> can >>>> do it, >>>> but I don't know how it set the flag to do it. It only did it the >>>> first >>>> time it ran. >>>> Might be interesting to install it on a fresh system and just see what >>>> it >>>> put into >>>> the startup to make it work. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> AVG also has the option to make a set of rescue disks >>> >>> However I believe win98 will not be supported by Grisoft for much longer >>> >>> >> >> > >
Guest Bob Harris Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this. To use such a CD, be sure that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. In fact, usually for a win98 machine it should be floppy before CD, and CD before hard drive. "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > any > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > System > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > using a > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > Prompt? > Thanks!
Guest glee Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software F-PROT Antivirus for DOS http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html <quote> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free for personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no further program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will continue to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support section will remain online for the time being. </quote> -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? > Thanks!
Guest Jim Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software F-Prot is the best for this procedure. http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/dos/ http://www.f-prot.com/download/signaturefiles.html Actually I think the boot diskette has an AV scan included. But I am not certain, its been awhile. "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? > Thanks!
Guest thanatoid Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software "glee" <glee29@spamindspring.com> wrote in news:e$vGUFPoIHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl: > F-PROT Antivirus for DOS > http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html > > <quote> > NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is > still available free for personal use, all development of > this particular product has ceased and no further program > updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature > files will continue to be available for this product and > the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support section will remain > online for the time being. </quote> The signatures are the same as for the Windows versions and for f-secure (IIRC) so they should be available indefinitely. BTW if you are smart/lucky enough not to have to use MS Office, you can dl a tiny "macro.def" file somewhere which makes the program think there is a huge up-to-date Word/Excel macro def file installed and skip the warning and/or eliminate the need for the DL of the /current/ macro sig file. I don't remember where I got it but if anyone wants it I can post it. (There is a separate, currently about 10MB I think basic "virus/trojan" sig file which everyone needs.) -- The lonely child plays with eternity, while a gang of children plays with time. Karel Capek
Guest Jim Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software sorry, that first link is dead end. maybe someone has a copy they can send to you. I am having difficulty finding the folder where F-Prot stores itself and this is a result of some problems with the profiles of some of the different users and a file/folder reset. Does anyone have name of that folder so I can update the application...This is a mystery as to why that happened on a reset in folder options, all the desktop folders and shortcuts are empty at the subfolder root. "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message news:OPVkStQoIHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > F-Prot is the best for this procedure. > > http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/dos/ > > http://www.f-prot.com/download/signaturefiles.html > > Actually I think the boot diskette has an AV scan included. But I am not > certain, its been awhile. > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > any > > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > System > > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > using a > > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > Prompt? > > Thanks! > >
Guest . Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software The typical storage/install point on Windows 98 SE is either C:\Program Files\F-Prot or C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message news:eO3e4pRoIHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > sorry, that first link is dead end. maybe someone has a copy they can send > to you. > > I am having difficulty finding the folder where F-Prot stores itself and > this is a result of some problems with the profiles of some of the different > users and a file/folder reset. Does anyone have name of that folder so I can > update the application...This is a mystery as to why that happened on a > reset in folder options, all the desktop folders and shortcuts are empty at > the subfolder root. > > "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message > news:OPVkStQoIHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > F-Prot is the best for this procedure. > > > > http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/dos/ > > > > http://www.f-prot.com/download/signaturefiles.html > > > > Actually I think the boot diskette has an AV scan included. But I am not > > certain, its been awhile. > > > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > > > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > > > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know > if > > any > > > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > > System > > > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > > using a > > > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > > Prompt? > > > Thanks!
Guest Lil' Dave Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > any > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > System > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > using a > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > Prompt? > Thanks! Whatever boot floppy suggestion you choose to follow, set the read-only tab on the diskette. This will protect the floppy from writes. -- Dave Hypocrisy. Big SUV, filament lights on all night. You think your neighbor should be changiing to compact fluorescent light bulbs and driving the hybrid.
Guest Jim Posted April 18, 2008 Posted April 18, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Thanks, I have been having some problems with personalized user settings. "." <.@dot.com> wrote in message news:d70Oj.86421$497.62400@newsfe14.phx... > The typical storage/install point on Windows 98 SE is either > C:\Program Files\F-Prot or C:\Program Files\FSI\F-Prot > > > "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message > news:eO3e4pRoIHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > > sorry, that first link is dead end. maybe someone has a copy they can send > > to you. > > > > I am having difficulty finding the folder where F-Prot stores itself and > > this is a result of some problems with the profiles of some of the > different > > users and a file/folder reset. Does anyone have name of that folder so I > can > > update the application...This is a mystery as to why that happened on a > > reset in folder options, all the desktop folders and shortcuts are empty > at > > the subfolder root. > > > > "Jim" <invalid@example.invalid> wrote in message > > news:OPVkStQoIHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > > > F-Prot is the best for this procedure. > > > > > > http://www.f-prot.com/products/home_use/dos/ > > > > > > http://www.f-prot.com/download/signaturefiles.html > > > > > > Actually I think the boot diskette has an AV scan included. But I am not > > > certain, its been awhile. > > > > > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > > > > I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one > can > > > > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know > > if > > > any > > > > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > > > System > > > > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > > > using a > > > > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > > > Prompt? > > > > Thanks! > >
Guest BAP Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Bob, did you mean "ultimate boot CD V4.1.0"? I could not find the "universal boot CD". Thanks! "Bob Harris" wrote: > As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from a bootable CD. > > Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ > > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". Nero > and Easy CD Creator can do this. > > To use such a CD, be sure that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD > before hard drive. In fact, usually for a win98 machine it should be floppy > before CD, and CD before hard drive. > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > > any > > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > > System > > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > > using a > > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > > Prompt? > > Thanks! > > >
Guest BAP Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." That file is 3.703 KB in size. I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it is a valid Windows installer package." Any suggestions? Thanks! "glee" wrote: > F-PROT Antivirus for DOS > http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html > > <quote> > NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free for > personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no further > program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will continue > to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support section > will remain online for the time being. > </quote> > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > http://dts-l.net/ > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any > > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System > > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a > > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? > > Thanks! > >
Guest John Dulak Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software BAP wrote: > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." > That file is 3.703 KB in size. BAP: Try Here: ftp://ftp.fsecure.com/f-prot/updates/f-prot/dos ftp://ftp.fsecure.com/f-prot/free/updates HTH & GL John -- \\\||/// ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o---------------- ----------------------------()-------------------------- '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. '' John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6
Guest glee Posted April 19, 2008 Posted April 19, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no problem: http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above. If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email you my copy of the .zip file. -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com... > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." > That file is 3.703 KB in size. > > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it > is a valid Windows installer package." > Any suggestions? > Thanks! > > > "glee" wrote: > >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html >> >> <quote> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free >> for >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no >> further >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will >> continue >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support section >> will remain online for the time being. >> </quote> >> -- >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ >> http://dts-l.net/ >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? >> > Thanks! >> >>
Guest BAP Posted April 21, 2008 Posted April 21, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Glen, something happened and I am not sure if my first reply to this message got thru, so here it is, again. *** Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results. You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming. In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp, if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean those Folders/Files? Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post. He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’ He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and CD before Hard Drive. The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available with the newer Windows versions Can you comment on my concerns? Sorry, for asking so much! "glee" wrote: > You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip > file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no > problem: > http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip > > Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above. > If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email you > my copy of the .zip file. > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > http://dts-l.net/ > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com... > > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came > > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." > > That file is 3.703 KB in size. > > > > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi > > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion > > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it > > is a valid Windows installer package." > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks! > > > > > > "glee" wrote: > > > >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS > >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html > >> > >> <quote> > >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free > >> for > >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no > >> further > >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will > >> continue > >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support section > >> will remain online for the time being. > >> </quote> > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > >> http://dts-l.net/ > >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > >> > >> > >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if any > >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a System > >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using a > >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? > >> > Thanks! > >> > >> > >
Guest glee Posted April 22, 2008 Posted April 22, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Replies inline..... "BAP" wrote in message news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com... > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results. > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming. > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp, > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean > those Folders/Files? First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show All Files" and click OK. Reboot. Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer): Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab. Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all offline content, and click OK, and OK. Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE. > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post. > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’ > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and > CD before Hard Drive. > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available > with the newer Windows versions The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your computer, assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. Most systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, so please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down. Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, and a whole lot of others. It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably discovered. The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates. > Can you comment on my concerns? > Sorry, for asking so much! Not a problem. > "glee" wrote: > >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no >> problem: >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip >> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above. >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email >> you >> my copy of the .zip file. >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com... >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size. >> > >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it >> > is a valid Windows installer package." >> > Any suggestions? >> > Thanks! >> > >> > >> > "glee" wrote: >> > >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html >> >> >> >> <quote> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free >> >> for >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no >> >> further >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will >> >> continue >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support >> >> section >> >> will remain online for the time being. >> >> </quote> >> >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if >> >> > any >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a >> >> > System >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using >> >> > a >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? >> >> > Thanks! -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
Guest BAP Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Thank you, Glen, for your reply! Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’. I assume that is what you are referring to. Your suggestion: Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that %temp% cannot be found. Regarding the Computer type: From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru Start>Accessories>System Information) OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000 System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp) System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC) System Type: X86 based PC Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0 Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB Page File Space: 1.88 GB Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106. The address is set to blank. I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet. AOL does all that I need to get done, I think! In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear Forms and Passwords. As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times. Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have caused no problems. This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt. c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent Deltree /y c:\recycled\ deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers Exit Thank you, again! "glee" wrote: > Replies inline..... > > "BAP" wrote in message news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com... > > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results. > > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself > > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming. > > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp, > > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean > > those Folders/Files? > > First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show > All Files" and click OK. > > Reboot. > Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: > -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. > -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. > > Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer): > Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab. > Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all > offline content, and click OK, and OK. > > Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE. > > > > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post. > > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from > > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at > > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ > > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". > > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’ > > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure > > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels > > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and > > CD before Hard Drive. > > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original > > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In > > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to > > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS > > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer > > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available > > with the newer Windows versions > > The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating > system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the > opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your computer, > assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. Most > systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the > computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, so > please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down. > > Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, and a > whole lot of others. > > It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably discovered. > The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I > suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app > specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates. > > > > Can you comment on my concerns? > > Sorry, for asking so much! > > Not a problem. > > > > "glee" wrote: > > > >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip > >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no > >> problem: > >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip > >> > >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above. > >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email > >> you > >> my copy of the .zip file. > >> > >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com... > >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came > >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." > >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size. > >> > > >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi > >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion > >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it > >> > is a valid Windows installer package." > >> > Any suggestions? > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > > >> > "glee" wrote: > >> > > >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS > >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html > >> >> > >> >> <quote> > >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free > >> >> for > >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no > >> >> further > >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will > >> >> continue > >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support > >> >> section > >> >> will remain online for the time being. > >> >> </quote> > >> >> > >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > >> >> > any > >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > >> >> > System > >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using > >> >> > a > >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? > >> >> > Thanks! > > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > http://dts-l.net/ > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > >
Guest BAP Posted April 23, 2008 Posted April 23, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software Again, I ran into problems sending my initial reply. Here it is, again! *** Thank you, Glen, for your reply! My Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’. I assume that is what you are referring to. Your other suggestion: Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that %temp% cannot be found. Regarding the Computer type: From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru Start>Accessories>System Information) OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000 System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp) System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC) System Type: X86 based PC Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0 Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB Page File Space: 1.88 GB Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106. The address is set to blank. I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet. AOL does all that I need to get done, I think! In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear Forms and Passwords. As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I managed to put together a batch file that I execute at times. Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have caused no problems. This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt. c:\windows\smartdrv.exe deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree /y c:\windows\temp deltree /y c:\windows\tmp deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp deltree /y c:\windows\history deltree /y c:\windows\cookies deltree /y c:\windows\recent Deltree /y c:\recycled\ deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers Exit Thanks, again! *** "glee" wrote: > Replies inline..... > > "BAP" wrote in message news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com... > > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results. > > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself > > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming. > > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp, > > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean > > those Folders/Files? > > First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show > All Files" and click OK. > > Reboot. > Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: > -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. > -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. > > Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer): > Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab. > Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all > offline content, and click OK, and OK. > > Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE. > > > > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post. > > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from > > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at > > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ > > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". > > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’ > > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure > > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels > > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and > > CD before Hard Drive. > > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original > > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In > > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to > > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS > > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer > > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available > > with the newer Windows versions > > The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating > system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the > opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your computer, > assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. Most > systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the > computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, so > please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down. > > Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, and a > whole lot of others. > > It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably discovered. > The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I > suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app > specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates. > > > > Can you comment on my concerns? > > Sorry, for asking so much! > > Not a problem. > > > > "glee" wrote: > > > >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the zip > >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no > >> problem: > >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip > >> > >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above. > >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will email > >> you > >> my copy of the .zip file. > >> > >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com... > >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came > >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." > >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size. > >> > > >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi > >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion > >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that it > >> > is a valid Windows installer package." > >> > Any suggestions? > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > > >> > "glee" wrote: > >> > > >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS > >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html > >> >> > >> >> <quote> > >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available free > >> >> for > >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no > >> >> further > >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will > >> >> continue > >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support > >> >> section > >> >> will remain online for the time being. > >> >> </quote> > >> >> > >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > >> >> > any > >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > >> >> > System > >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by using > >> >> > a > >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: Prompt? > >> >> > Thanks! > > -- > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > http://dts-l.net/ > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > >
Guest glee Posted April 24, 2008 Posted April 24, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software According to the User Guide for your Vaio http://www.retrevo.com/s/Sony-PCV-RX370DS-Desktops-manual/id/751bh227/t/2/ this is how you enter the BIOS Setup: From the Start menu, select Shut Down> Restart. When the Sony screen displays, press the F2 key on your keyboard. (You may need to tap the F2 key a few times rapidly as soon as the Sony screen appears). Be very careful what you do in the BIOS setup. Your batch file deletes the Temp folder, not just the files *in* the Temp folder, so that is why you can't find the Temp folder when you run %temp% from the Run box. You are executing the batch file in a Windows session without rebooting afterwards...Windows will not recreate the Temp folder until a reboot. Your batch file, especially run the way you do it without a reboot, is a very bad practice. (You should not be deleting folders in the Windows\Spool folder tree either....these are not necessarily recreated if you delete them, even after a reboot). -- Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ http://dts-l.net/ http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:D0FF4C1B-9D2B-4DDA-A01A-F10A8300CA30@microsoft.com... > Thank you, Glen, for your reply! > > Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’. > I assume that is what you are referring to. > > Your suggestion: > Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: > -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. > -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. > > I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that > %temp% cannot be found. > > Regarding the Computer type: > From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru > Start>Accessories>System Information) > OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000 > System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp) > System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC) > System Type: X86 based PC > Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz > Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0 > Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB > Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB > Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB > Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB > Page File Space: 1.88 GB > > Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106. > The address is set to blank. > I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet. > AOL does all that I need to get done, I think! > > In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I > will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files > and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear > Forms and Passwords. > As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I > managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times. > Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have > caused no problems. > This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to > without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt. > > > c:\windows\smartdrv.exe > deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk > deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 > deltree /y c:\windows\temp > deltree /y c:\windows\tmp > deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp > deltree /y c:\windows\history > deltree /y c:\windows\cookies > deltree /y c:\windows\recent > Deltree /y c:\recycled\ > deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers > Exit > > Thank you, again! > > "glee" wrote: > >> Replies inline..... >> >> "BAP" wrote in message >> news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com... >> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results. >> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself >> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming. >> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp, >> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean >> > those Folders/Files? >> >> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show >> All Files" and click OK. >> >> Reboot. >> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: >> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. >> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. >> >> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer): >> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab. >> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all >> offline content, and click OK, and OK. >> >> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE. >> >> >> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post. >> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from >> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at >> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ >> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". >> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’ >> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure >> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels >> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and >> > CD before Hard Drive. >> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original >> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In >> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to >> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS >> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer >> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available >> > with the newer Windows versions >> >> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating >> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the >> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your >> computer, >> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. >> Most >> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the >> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, >> so >> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down. >> >> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, >> and a >> whole lot of others. >> >> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably >> discovered. >> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I >> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app >> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates. >> >> >> > Can you comment on my concerns? >> > Sorry, for asking so much! >> >> Not a problem. >> >> >> > "glee" wrote: >> > >> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the >> >> zip >> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no >> >> problem: >> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip >> >> >> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above. >> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will >> >> email >> >> you >> >> my copy of the .zip file. >> >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com... >> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came >> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." >> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size. >> >> > >> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi >> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion >> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that >> >> > it >> >> > is a valid Windows installer package." >> >> > Any suggestions? >> >> > Thanks! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > "glee" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS >> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html >> >> >> >> >> >> <quote> >> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available >> >> >> free >> >> >> for >> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no >> >> >> further >> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will >> >> >> continue >> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support >> >> >> section >> >> >> will remain online for the time being. >> >> >> </quote> >> >> >> >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... >> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can >> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if >> >> >> > any >> >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a >> >> >> > System >> >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by >> >> >> > using >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: >> >> >> > Prompt? >> >> >> > Thanks! >> >> -- >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ >> http://dts-l.net/ >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm >> >>
Guest BAP Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: Antivirus Software "glee" wrote: > According to the User Guide for your Vaio > http://www.retrevo.com/s/Sony-PCV-RX370DS-Desktops-manual/id/751bh227/t/2/ *** Glen, thanks for the interesting site! I have, yet, to browse thru it in full, but it will a great reference to me. *** > this is how you enter the BIOS Setup: > > From the Start menu, select Shut Down> Restart. > When the Sony screen displays, press the F2 key on your keyboard. > > (You may need to tap the F2 key a few times rapidly as soon as the Sony screen > appears). > > Be very careful what you do in the BIOS setup. > *** Pressing the F2 key got me into the BIOS display and on the Boot display this is the sequence shown. 1. ATAPI CD-ROM (Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPI MOD) 2. Removable Device (Legacy Floppy) 3. IDE Hard Drive (IBM-DTLA- 307060) 4. Other Boot Device (Disabled) Silent Boot (Enabled) I made no changes. What bothered me, however, was the first device. That to me appears to be the DVD, not the CD Drive. Sony's Rescue Disks, System, Applications and Drivers on hand, are on CD's Disks. Should I not change the order? *** > > Your batch file deletes the Temp folder, not just the files *in* the Temp folder, so > that is why you can't find the Temp folder when you run %temp% from the Run >box. > You are executing the batch file in a Windows session without rebooting > afterwards...Windows will not recreate the Temp folder until a reboot. Your batch > file, especially run the way you do it without a reboot, is a very bad practice. > > (You should not be deleting folders in the Windows\Spool folder tree > either....these are not necessarily recreated if you delete them, even after a > reboot). > -- *** I felt, all along, that certain steps in the batch file were inappropriate Appropriate corrections will be made, if I decide to use that batch file. In the meantime, assuming that the Boot order could/should be made, what would you suggest regarding your earlier statement that I would benefit from a "bootable floppy or CD 'rescue disk' made by an anti-virus app specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates"? Also, since I have been unable to download successfully F-Prot, if you were to send me your copy of F-PROT, what is the best way to use it? Thank you, Glen! *** > Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > http://dts-l.net/ > http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > > > "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:D0FF4C1B-9D2B-4DDA-A01A-F10A8300CA30@microsoft.com... > > Thank you, Glen, for your reply! > > > > Folder Options are already set at ‘Show all hidden files and folders’. > > I assume that is what you are referring to. > > > > Your suggestion: > > Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: > > -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. > > -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. > > > > I tried that at different times, but the system keeps telling me that > > %temp% cannot be found. > > > > Regarding the Computer type: > > From the System Information panes of the Sony, (thru > > Start>Accessories>System Information) > > OS: Microsoft Windows, Version 4-90-3000 Build 3000 > > System Name: VAIO (Sony Corp) > > System Model: PCV-RX370DS(UC) > > System Type: X86 based PC > > Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 1300MHz GenuineIntel 1296Mhz > > Bios Version: Award Medallion BIOS v6.0 > > Total Physical Memory: 127.43 MB > > Available Physical Memory: 2.07 MB > > Total Virtual Memory: 2.0 GB > > Available Virtual Memory: 1.77 GB > > Page File Space: 1.88 GB > > > > Regarding the IE, what is installed is version 6.0.2800.1106. > > The address is set to blank. > > I do not believe that I am actually using IE to browse the Internet. > > AOL does all that I need to get done, I think! > > > > In addition, as occasionally mentioned in the Newsgroup, now and then, I > > will start the IE and on the general pane of Tools, I delete Cookies, Files > > and Offline Content, clear History and from Content/Auto Complete, I clear > > Forms and Passwords. > > As also mentioned at various times of ways to clean up unnecessary files, I > > managed to put together a batch file that I execute, at times. > > Some of you are likely to object to that, I believe, but, apparently, I have > > caused no problems. > > This is the file Clean.bat that I execute from the DOS prompt that I go to > > without exiting Windows or restarting the Computer to a DOS Prompt. > > > > > > c:\windows\smartdrv.exe > > deltree /y c:\windows\applic~1\micros~1\office\recent\*.lnk > > deltree /y c:\windows\tempor~1 > > deltree /y c:\windows\temp > > deltree /y c:\windows\tmp > > deltree /y c:\windows\ff*.tmp > > deltree /y c:\windows\history > > deltree /y c:\windows\cookies > > deltree /y c:\windows\recent > > Deltree /y c:\recycled\ > > deltree /y c:\windows\spool\printers > > Exit > > > > Thank you, again! > > > > "glee" wrote: > > > >> Replies inline..... > >> > >> "BAP" wrote in message > >> news:1D7E26BE-B91A-4BBA-8BC2-62C7E91E69ED@microsoft.com... > >> > Glen, I tried to download F-Prot, again, but.......same results. > >> > You suggest for me to clear the browser Cache and Temp folder. I find myself > >> > at a great disadvantage. My search for Cache or Temp was simply overwhelming. > >> > In the long list, there is a Cache.db, 256MB in size. I can handle the Temp, > >> > if that is the Temporary Internet Files. My burning question is, how to clean > >> > those Folders/Files? > >> > >> First, click Start> Settings> Folder Options> View tab, and click to enable "Show > >> All Files" and click OK. > >> > >> Reboot. > >> Open the Temp folder and delete all Temp files: > >> -Click Start>Run, type %temp% and click OK. > >> -Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Delete. > >> > >> Delete the Temporary Internet Files (for Internet Explorer): > >> Click Start> Settings> Control Panel> Internet Options> General tab. > >> Click the Delete Files button, then put a checkmark in the box to Delete all > >> offline content, and click OK, and OK. > >> > >> Please advise if you are using a different browser than IE. > >> > >> > >> > Another question regarding Bob Harris reply 0f 4/17/08 to my post. > >> > He says that ‘ As an alternative, there are antivirus that can be run from > >> > a bootable CD. Check-out the "universal boot CD", free at > >> > http://ubcd.sourceforge.net/ > >> > Download and burn to CD via a program that supports "burn form image". > >> > Nero and Easy CD Creator can do this.’ > >> > He further says that, to use the “universal boot CD”, I had to make sure > >> > that the boot order (in the BIOS setup) is CD before hard drive. He feels > >> > that for a win98 machine the startup order should be floppy before CD, and > >> > CD before Hard Drive. > >> > The “universal boot CD” idea appeals to me, if that would answer my original > >> > question. Bob has not answered my reply regarding the CD in question. In > >> > that reply, I fail to add that my W98ME does not appear to give me a way to > >> > get to the BIOS Setup to make any changes. The help files mention CMOS > >> > (BIOS?) Setup, but gives no info as to how to get to it. I am an old timer > >> > and the DEL option during the booting cycle does not appear to be available > >> > with the newer Windows versions > >> > >> The version of Windows is not relevant. Entering BIOS Setup is not an operating > >> system function, and occurs long before the operating system is given the > >> opportunity to load. What I need to know is what brand and model is your > >> computer, > >> assuming you bought a major OEM brand such as Dell, HP, Compaq and so forth. > >> Most > >> systems will give some sign during the first visible screen when starting the > >> computer, as to what key or key combo to use to enter setup. Not all do, though, > >> so > >> please tell me what computer model you have so I can try to narrow it down. > >> > >> Common keys used by different manufacturers DEL, F1, F2, F10, F11, Ctrl+Alt+S, > >> and a > >> whole lot of others. > >> > >> It is the Ultimate Boot CD, not the Universal Boot CD, as you probably > >> discovered. > >> The virus definitions are probably not up to date in that package, though. I > >> suggest you use a bootable floppy or CD "rescue disk" made by an anti-virus app > >> specifically for the purpose, with the latest updates. > >> > >> > >> > Can you comment on my concerns? > >> > Sorry, for asking so much! > >> > >> Not a problem. > >> > >> > >> > "glee" wrote: > >> > > >> >> You are getting a corrupted download for some reason. I just downloaded the > >> >> zip > >> >> file from the link on the page I posted, and WinZip 9.0 SR1 opened it with no > >> >> problem: > >> >> http://files.f-prot.com/files/dos/f-prot.zip > >> >> > >> >> Empty your browser cache and Temp folder, and try again, using the link above. > >> >> If you still have trouble, email me at glen.vee @ gmail dot com and I will > >> >> email > >> >> you > >> >> my copy of the .zip file. > >> >> > >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> news:302BB36B-9973-4FE1-B769-F9C8B1D56A75@microsoft.com... > >> >> > Glen, I downloaded F-PROT twice and in both instances my WinZio 9.0 SR1 came > >> >> > back with "Cannot open File. It does not appear to be a valid archive." > >> >> > That file is 3.703 KB in size. > >> >> > > >> >> > I also searched that site and found/downloaded fpav-Windows-X86-hc-en.msi > >> >> > (7.399KB). When I tried to open it, it came back with: "This installatrion > >> >> > package could not be opened. Contact the application vendor to verify that > >> >> > it > >> >> > is a valid Windows installer package." > >> >> > Any suggestions? > >> >> > Thanks! > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > "glee" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> F-PROT Antivirus for DOS > >> >> >> http://www.f-prot.com/download/home_user/download_fpdos.html > >> >> >> > >> >> >> <quote> > >> >> >> NB! Please note that although F-PROT Antivirus for DOS is still available > >> >> >> free > >> >> >> for > >> >> >> personal use, all development of this particular product has ceased and no > >> >> >> further > >> >> >> program updates be released. However, up-to-date virus signature files will > >> >> >> continue > >> >> >> to be available for this product and the F-PROT Antivirus for DOS support > >> >> >> section > >> >> >> will remain online for the time being. > >> >> >> </quote> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "BAP" <BAP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> >> >> news:1FCED126-3D70-43C4-8F5C-93063C3EA0AE@microsoft.com... > >> >> >> >I have heard about some free versions of software packages that one can > >> >> >> > download and use to check W98ME systems for viruses, but I do not know if > >> >> >> > any > >> >> >> > of them could be launched at the Dos Prompt. There may be times when a > >> >> >> > System > >> >> >> > may fail to boot successfully and the only way to get anywhere is by > >> >> >> > using > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > Start-up Diskette. Is there some way to check for viruses at the C: > >> >> >> > Prompt? > >> >> >> > Thanks! > >> > >> -- > >> Glen Ventura, MS MVP Windows, A+ > >> http://dts-l.net/ > >> http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm > >> > >> > >
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