Guest philo Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours now...and found that there have been no problems at all. My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now it runs the way I had always hoped it to. I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... I must say that MS did a good job this time!
Guest FrankV Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 Similar notes have been sent by various users (including me) and I read someplace it is about a 10% increase in overall speed. Frank "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message news:uJS7VU5pIHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours > now...and found that there have been no problems at all. > My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. > > Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now it > runs the way I had always hoped it to. > > > I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... > > I must say that MS did a good job this time! > > > >
Guest philo Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 "FrankV" <FrankV@noaddress.com> wrote in message news:OeBSS76pIHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Similar notes have been sent by various users (including me) and I read > someplace it is about a 10% increase in overall speed. > > Frank > Yes...It "feels" like a 10% speed increase . Just enough to make a nice difference > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:uJS7VU5pIHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >> >> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now >> it runs the way I had always hoped it to. >> >> >> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >> >> I must say that MS did a good job this time! >> >> >> >> > >
Guest PD43 Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 "FrankV" <FrankV@noaddress.com> wrote: >Similar notes have been sent by various users (including me) and I read >someplace it is about a 10% increase in overall speed. Have had it here for 2 days now and don't notice any speed increase at all. But I'm running a bare-bones list of services, and had this machine pretty finely tuned already.
Guest Bill in Co. Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 Have all the purported advantages or fixes of SP3 been posted yet? philo wrote: > FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours > now...and found that there have been no problems at all. > My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. > > Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now it > runs the way I had always hoped it to. > > > I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... > > I must say that MS did a good job this time!
Guest ANONYMOUS Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 Bill in Co. wrote: >Have all the purported advantages or fixes of SP3 been posted yet? > > > Perhaps yes but new bugs must have been introduced in SP3 which will take another year of hotfixes to get sorted out! This is how MS works. It keeps them busy when there is nothing going on and new products don't come out as scheduled!
Guest philo Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:Ow6BEs9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Have all the purported advantages or fixes of SP3 been posted yet? > > philo wrote: >> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >> >> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now >> it >> runs the way I had always hoped it to. >> >> >> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >> >> I must say that MS did a good job this time! > > SP3 offers greater security and many folks find improved performance.(I did) Note: Though SP3 has been pretty well tested...there is at least some chance it can ruin your system... In the unlikely event that SP3 would malfunction... if the machine can be booted to safe mode...it could be uninstalled. But an entire system backup is still recommended
Guest PD43 Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote: >Have all the purported advantages or fixes of SP3 been posted yet? Google is your friend: http://tinyurl.com/2denpw
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 Have you read the release notes? They've been out there for months. "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:Ow6BEs9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Have all the purported advantages or fixes of SP3 been posted yet? > > philo wrote: >> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >> >> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now >> it >> runs the way I had always hoped it to. >> >> >> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >> >> I must say that MS did a good job this time! > >
Guest Bill in Co. Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 philo wrote: > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:Ow6BEs9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Have all the purported advantages or fixes of SP3 been posted yet? >> >> philo wrote: >>> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >>> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >>> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >>> >>> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now >>> it runs the way I had always hoped it to. >>> >>> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >>> >>> I must say that MS did a good job this time! >> > > SP3 offers greater security and many folks find improved performance.(I > did) > > Note: Though SP3 has been pretty well tested...there is at least some > chance > it can ruin your system... > > In the unlikely event that SP3 would malfunction... > if the machine can be booted to safe mode...it could be uninstalled. > > But an entire system backup is still recommended I took a brief look at the url (and the SP3 pdf file there) that PD42 mentioned. But I have to say, I don't see all that "much" there (from a user's standpoint, and unless I missed it, nothing documented about any (alleged by some) great performance boost).
Guest PD43 Posted April 26, 2008 Posted April 26, 2008 Re: SP3 "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote: >I took a brief look at the url (and the SP3 pdf file there) that PD42 >mentioned. But I have to say, I don't see all that "much" there (from a >user's standpoint, and unless I missed it, nothing documented about any >(alleged by some) great performance boost). By George, I think you've got it. Since you are on dialup, you will probably have to pay for a disc or have a friend burn the stand-alone version to CD for you. If you are up-to-date on all the hot fixes preceding SP3 you are probably fine.
Guest Bill in Co. Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 PD43 wrote: > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> I took a brief look at the url (and the SP3 pdf file there) that PD42 >> mentioned. But I have to say, I don't see all that "much" there (from a >> user's standpoint, and unless I missed it, nothing documented about any >> (alleged by some) great performance boost). > > By George, I think you've got it. > > Since you are on dialup, you will probably have to pay for a disc or > have a friend burn the stand-alone version to CD for you. If I ever wanted it, I'd order the CD. > If you are up-to-date on all the hot fixes preceding SP3 you are > probably fine. I wouldn't consider it for the "never-ending story" of "security patches" and whatnot, but I would consider it IF it actually added something truly USEFUL, that was really missing, OR corrected some egregious system errors. \Sorta like what happened between Win98 and Win98SE - now THAT was worth the update. OTOH, going from Win98SE to WinME wasn't worth it, nor did I do it - as in, "thanks, but no thanks!".
Guest PD43 Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote: >OTOH, going from Win98SE to WinME wasn't worth it, nor did I do it - as in, >"thanks, but no thanks!". WinME was touted from the beginning to be only a stopgap to earn some money for MS while XP was still being worked on. Anyone with any clue about what was going on knew that XP was coming and didn't waste time with ME.
Guest WindPipe Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 philo wrote: > FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours > now...and found that there have been no problems at all. > My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. > > Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now it > runs the way I had always hoped it to. > > > I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... > > I must say that MS did a good job this time! > > > > Couldn't give you a percentage, but I have a noticable performance increase. With the added bonus of Security Centre now recognising NOD32 2.7 Anti-virus, and Comodo Firewall Pro 3. Think I'll use Security Centre now on (maybe not). I think your right about MS doing a good job this time, who needs Vista! Hope they (MS) offer the $AUD 30.00 for a WinXP SP3 retail CD like they did with SP2. Assuming SP3 is the last Service Pack, if XP does go to 2014 (which is supposed to be two years past the 2012 Dooms Day), do you think we may also see SP4, SP5, SP5a, and SP5a + roll ups? In which case I shall not purchase the $AUD 30.00 if they offer it. - WindPipe
Guest xfile Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 Everything goes well and I also have a noticeable performance increase. For those who have MUI installed, you need to uninstall KB925877 first. > I must say that MS did a good job this time! Indeed!! "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message news:uJS7VU5pIHA.4280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours > now...and found that there have been no problems at all. > My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. > > Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now it > runs the way I had always hoped it to. > > > I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... > > I must say that MS did a good job this time! > > > >
Guest Robert Pendell Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 philo wrote: > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:Ow6BEs9pIHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Have all the purported advantages or fixes of SP3 been posted yet? >> >> philo wrote: >>> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >>> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >>> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >>> >>> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now >>> it >>> runs the way I had always hoped it to. >>> >>> >>> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >>> >>> I must say that MS did a good job this time! >> > > SP3 offers greater security and many folks find improved performance.(I did) > > Note: Though SP3 has been pretty well tested...there is at least some chance > it can ruin your system... > > In the unlikely event that SP3 would malfunction... > if the machine can be booted to safe mode...it could be uninstalled. > > But an entire system backup is still recommended > > Correct. I tried one of the betas in the past and it went on ok then but I still took the 2.5 hr timeframe to backup my entire drive. This is my escape route in case something should go horribly wrong. -- Robert Pendell shinji@elite-systems.org "A perfect world is one of chaos." Thawte Web of Trust Notary CAcert Assurer
Guest Robert Pendell Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 WindPipe wrote: > philo wrote: >> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >> >> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but >> now it runs the way I had always hoped it to. >> >> >> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >> >> I must say that MS did a good job this time! >> >> >> >> > > Couldn't give you a percentage, but I have a noticable performance > increase. With the added bonus of Security Centre now recognising NOD32 > 2.7 Anti-virus, and Comodo Firewall Pro 3. Think I'll use Security > Centre now on (maybe not). > > I think your right about MS doing a good job this time, who needs Vista! > Hope they (MS) offer the $AUD 30.00 for a WinXP SP3 retail CD like they > did with SP2. Assuming SP3 is the last Service Pack, if XP does go to > 2014 (which is supposed to be two years past the 2012 Dooms Day), do you > think we may also see SP4, SP5, SP5a, and SP5a + roll ups? In which case > I shall not purchase the $AUD 30.00 if they offer it. > > - WindPipe I highly doubt that. They have already stated that this will be the last service pack for Windows XP. -- Robert Pendell shinji@elite-systems.org "A perfect world is one of chaos." Thawte Web of Trust Notary CAcert Assurer
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 What is the "2012 Dooms Day"? I know of know 2012 event involving XP. MS stated over a year ago that SP3 is the final service pack for XP. Anything after this will be a rollup of updates for convenience of new users but will not increase the service pack level. The service pack is just a means for taking the OS to a particular service pack level. All updates after SP3 will simply be updates to XP service pack level three. Each service pack level is supported for two years after that level has been supperceded by a newer service pack level. XP at service pack level two will be supported for two more years and then users will need to be at service pack level three to continue to receive security updates. Service pack level three will be the level supported until the end of extended support in 2014 since there will not be a newer service pack level to supercede it. Keep in mind that the service pack itself is not what is supported (except for the support MS Product Support Service gives for its installation). What receives ongoing support is the OS itself at a particular service pack level. "WindPipe" <wind_pipe@msnews.com> wrote in message news:eqcRd$FqIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > philo wrote: >> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >> >> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but now >> it runs the way I had always hoped it to. >> >> >> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >> >> I must say that MS did a good job this time! >> >> >> >> > > Couldn't give you a percentage, but I have a noticable performance > increase. With the added bonus of Security Centre now recognising NOD32 > 2.7 Anti-virus, and Comodo Firewall Pro 3. Think I'll use Security Centre > now on (maybe not). > > I think your right about MS doing a good job this time, who needs Vista! > Hope they (MS) offer the $AUD 30.00 for a WinXP SP3 retail CD like they > did with SP2. Assuming SP3 is the last Service Pack, if XP does go to 2014 > (which is supposed to be two years past the 2012 Dooms Day), do you think > we may also see SP4, SP5, SP5a, and SP5a + roll ups? In which case I shall > not purchase the $AUD 30.00 if they offer it. > > - WindPipe
Guest PD43 Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote: >What is the "2012 Dooms Day"? WHAT? You don't listen to "Coast to Coast" on late night talk radio!?!?? The program all the UFO/ghost/Nostradamus whackos listen to? The Mayan calendar ended on 12.12.2012 You should get ready. The end is near.
Guest Colin Barnhorst Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 OK! I'll tell my wife to stock up on MAYANaise. We wouldn't want our burgers to go wanting after 2012. "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message news:q9k914p7fsoja94471feqigjmnid8rq9cg@4ax.com... > "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote: > >>What is the "2012 Dooms Day"? > > WHAT? You don't listen to "Coast to Coast" on late night talk > radio!?!?? The program all the UFO/ghost/Nostradamus whackos listen > to? > > The Mayan calendar ended on 12.12.2012 > > You should get ready. The end is near.
Guest WindPipe Posted April 27, 2008 Posted April 27, 2008 Re: SP3 Colin Barnhorst wrote: > What is the "2012 Dooms Day"? I know of know 2012 event involving XP. > > MS stated over a year ago that SP3 is the final service pack for XP. > Anything after this will be a rollup of updates for convenience of new > users but will not increase the service pack level. The service pack is > just a means for taking the OS to a particular service pack level. All > updates after SP3 will simply be updates to XP service pack level three. > > Each service pack level is supported for two years after that level has > been supperceded by a newer service pack level. XP at service pack > level two will be supported for two more years and then users will need > to be at service pack level three to continue to receive security > updates. Service pack level three will be the level supported until the > end of extended support in 2014 since there will not be a newer service > pack level to supercede it. > > Keep in mind that the service pack itself is not what is supported > (except for the support MS Product Support Service gives for its > installation). What receives ongoing support is the OS itself at a > particular service pack level. > > "WindPipe" <wind_pipe@msnews.com> wrote in message > news:eqcRd$FqIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> philo wrote: >>> FWIW: I've instsalled SP3 final and have been running it for 24 hours >>> now...and found that there have been no problems at all. >>> My AMD XP2500 with 2 gigs of RAM runs noticably better. >>> >>> Up until SP3 was installed it always seemed slightly sluggish...but >>> now it runs the way I had always hoped it to. >>> >>> >>> I don't think I've ever seen an SP actually improve performance... >>> >>> I must say that MS did a good job this time! >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Couldn't give you a percentage, but I have a noticable performance >> increase. With the added bonus of Security Centre now recognising >> NOD32 2.7 Anti-virus, and Comodo Firewall Pro 3. Think I'll use >> Security Centre now on (maybe not). >> >> I think your right about MS doing a good job this time, who needs >> Vista! Hope they (MS) offer the $AUD 30.00 for a WinXP SP3 retail CD >> like they did with SP2. Assuming SP3 is the last Service Pack, if XP >> does go to 2014 (which is supposed to be two years past the 2012 Dooms >> Day), do you think we may also see SP4, SP5, SP5a, and SP5a + roll >> ups? In which case I shall not purchase the $AUD 30.00 if they offer it. >> >> - WindPipe > Not XP related, just a few preachers of doom and cataclysms on YouTube, and a few very late night shows stating the long awaited predictions of hunger, war, diseases, ... That for some reason is coming in 2012. Suppose that will mean our XP machines will crash then too. - WindPipe
Guest Bill Sharpe Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 Re: SP3 PD43 wrote: > "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> OTOH, going from Win98SE to WinME wasn't worth it, nor did I do it - as in, >> "thanks, but no thanks!". > > WinME was touted from the beginning to be only a stopgap to earn some > money for MS while XP was still being worked on. > > Anyone with any clue about what was going on knew that XP was coming > and didn't waste time with ME. But my previous HP machine shipped with ME. After about six months of frustration I upgraded to XP Home Edition, despite HP's disclaimers that they wouldn't support the new OS. Bill
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