Karabiner Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 Before I start; I am well aware of how horrible the hardware i'm about to list is, but i'm using anything as i can find as i really don't even HAVE a budget with which to buy things. I'm looking at building a new rig using parts I recently acquired. I have a 865GM2 motherboard, a 250GB hitachi deskstar HD (7200RPM) and a couple sticks of DDR2. I am also looking at getting a 3.2GHZ P4 HT, the maximum the motherboard can take; as well as an AGP HD4670 (1GB/512MB). Oh, and any alternative AGP cards you can suggest would be of help. As compared to my current setup, how much extra performance would this new rig have? A good comparison would be approximate framerates from games, if anybody can supply them. Please, no comments on how I should forget this and get something better... I simply want to know whether or not it's worth spending the money. Way i see it, it's better to spend a large amount on a GPU and CPU for this system than spend money i REALLY don't have on a whole new rig. Quote Motherboard: HP DC5100 MTCPU: Intel P4 3.4GHZ HTRAM: PC2-5300 DDR2 2.5GBHDD: 80GB 7200RPM (Soon to be upgraded)GPU: Geforce 9500 512MB (PCI-E X1) (OC: 720/795/1650)Optical drives: Standard HP DVD ROM + LG 52X CD RWPSU: 300WOS: Windows XP Pro
Dalo Harkin Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 The bottom line is that AGP cannot compete with PCI-E GPUs, the bandwidth that PCI-E can handle alone is far more than AGP. The MOBO you have acquired has onboard GPU and if I am honest should only be used for a low end PC, browsing the web, etc. Dont waste your money on older technology unless its for a specific purpose, the hardware you have got in your current system will outweigh the recently acquired, if needs be replace the 9500GT with something more powerful or add a second 9500GT for SLI I know its not what you want to hear, but its honest :) Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Karabiner Posted September 30, 2010 Author Posted September 30, 2010 The bottom line is that AGP cannot compete with PCI-E GPUs, the bandwidth that PCI-E can handle alone is far more than AGP. The MOBO you have acquired has onboard GPU and if I am honest should only be used for a low end PC, browsing the web, etc. Dont waste your money on older technology unless its for a specific purpose, the hardware you have got in your current system will outweigh the recently acquired, if needs be replace the 9500GT with something more powerful or add a second 9500GT for SLI I know its not what you want to hear, but its honest :) As much as i'd like to, i can't upgrade. the 9500 is the best card that the PCI-E X1 port my current system has can support, and AGP actually gives more bandwidth than that interface. I know that the HD4670 is way better than the 9500, but i'm curious as to how much better concerning performance. I can't upgrade my PC, so i want to know that adding a HD4670 to the new motherboard would get me over the 9500 i already have. Quote Motherboard: HP DC5100 MTCPU: Intel P4 3.4GHZ HTRAM: PC2-5300 DDR2 2.5GBHDD: 80GB 7200RPM (Soon to be upgraded)GPU: Geforce 9500 512MB (PCI-E X1) (OC: 720/795/1650)Optical drives: Standard HP DVD ROM + LG 52X CD RWPSU: 300WOS: Windows XP Pro
Dalo Harkin Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Didnt know they did a PCI-E x1 version Bottom line is that AGP is older technology and not worth investing in, as its a dead end with no real upgrade path What is your current system MOBO? Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
Karabiner Posted October 1, 2010 Author Posted October 1, 2010 Didnt know they did a PCI-E x1 version Bottom line is that AGP is older technology and not worth investing in, as its a dead end with no real upgrade path What is your current system MOBO? *points at his signature* DC5100 is my current. I'm aware that AGP is an older technology but it is all I can get my hands on o-O Quote Motherboard: HP DC5100 MTCPU: Intel P4 3.4GHZ HTRAM: PC2-5300 DDR2 2.5GBHDD: 80GB 7200RPM (Soon to be upgraded)GPU: Geforce 9500 512MB (PCI-E X1) (OC: 720/795/1650)Optical drives: Standard HP DVD ROM + LG 52X CD RWPSU: 300WOS: Windows XP Pro
Dalo Harkin Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Well I personally think you would be better getting a budget PC capable of PCI-E graphics, while it may cost slightly more the very 'basic' CPUs and RAM now used in budget systems will completely blow older systems away! The same is said of the GPU an older 'budget' PCI-E card will be far better than a moderate/high end AGP That being said you want AGP therefore just get whatever you can afford Quote Intel Q6600 @ 4Ghz (Watercooled)Asus P5K premium black pearl4GB OCZ Reaper 8500260GTX Join Free PC Help - Register here Donations are welcome - here PC Build We are all members helping other members.Please return here where you may be able to help someone else.After all, no one knows everything and you may have the answer that someone needs.
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