Guest Bikini Browser Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Folks: I am making some changes to our SBS 2003 Server this weekend and some questions have arisen that need fast answers... We are working on a server which is a domain controller. (SBS 2003) I am using Acronis True Image for Windows Server and I have a good backup of my Drives... The original Drive Arrays (they were too small so we had to upgrade to larger drives) have all been removed to make room for the new, larger hard disk arrays and the HP SmartController has been reconfigured to support the new RAID 5 configuration with 3 hard drives. So I cannot go back to the original setup. Acronis Tech support said I can restore the data partition by partition, (one at a time) so I can resize the partition on the new drive which is what we want to do. That process is running now and it will take 12 hours to complete. But they also said that I should not write the MBR using their software. They said I should boot to the recovery console and run some commands. They said: "Please boot up from the Windows Bootable CD, then go to the Recovery Console (the first Repair option you come to). From the command prompt please type: FIXMBR C: FIXBOOT C: COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTLDR C:\ COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\ BOOTCFG /rebuild ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The problem is that when you do this, Windows installation will ask you for the administrators password before you every have a chance to enter the commands. The administrators name was changed for security reasons so the actual login name "Administrator" does not exist. Will I still be able to get into the Recovery Console? If not, what should I do now? Any help would be appreciated. Bikini Browser San Juan Puerto Rico
Guest leew [MVP] Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Re: Recovery Console question Bikini Browser wrote: > Folks: > > > > I am making some changes to our SBS 2003 Server this weekend and some > questions have arisen that need fast answers... We are working on a server > which is a domain controller. (SBS 2003) > > > > I am using Acronis True Image for Windows Server and I have a good backup of > my Drives... > > > > The original Drive Arrays (they were too small so we had to upgrade to > larger drives) have all been removed to make room for the new, larger hard > disk arrays and the HP SmartController has been reconfigured to support the > new RAID 5 configuration with 3 hard drives. So I cannot go back to the > original setup. > > > > Acronis Tech support said I can restore the data partition by partition, > (one at a time) so I can resize the partition on the new drive which is what > we want to do. That process is running now and it will take 12 hours to > complete. > > > > But they also said that I should not write the MBR using their software. > They said I should boot to the recovery console and run some commands. They > said: > > > > "Please boot up from the Windows Bootable CD, then go to the Recovery > Console (the first Repair option you come to). > > > > From the command prompt please type: > > > > FIXMBR C: > > FIXBOOT C: > > COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTLDR C:\ > > COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\ > > BOOTCFG /rebuild > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > The problem is that when you do this, Windows installation will ask you for > the administrators password before you every have a chance to enter the > commands. The administrators name was changed for security reasons so the > actual login name "Administrator" does not exist. Will I still be able to > get into the Recovery Console? If not, what should I do now? > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Bikini Browser > > San Juan Puerto Rico > > > I've not used this method before, however, logically (at least in my mind), if you restore the partition and then boot the server with to the recovery console, then the Administrator password (sometimes referred to as the Directory Services Restore Mode password) should be the same as the one you set when you setup SBS. If it isn't you can try the tool set I usually use - BartPE, or more specifically Ultimate Boot CD for Windows - http://www.ubcd4win.com.
Guest Bikini Browser Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Re: Recovery Console question Thanks for answering.. I have the password and the new username for what used to be the "Administrator".. The problem is that I believe Windows is going to ask me for the "Administrators" password. "Administrator" does not exist anymore. So the question is, am I right? Is there a place to enter the username versus using the default name of "Administrator"? OR will the system accept the current password even though the user login name is not "Administrator"? Please advise Bikini Browser San Juan Puerto Rico "leew [MVP]" <useContactPage@LWComputing.dot.com> wrote in message news:481cad49$0$25022$607ed4bc@cv.net... > Bikini Browser wrote: >> Folks: >> >> >> >> I am making some changes to our SBS 2003 Server this weekend and some >> questions have arisen that need fast answers... We are working on a >> server which is a domain controller. (SBS 2003) >> >> >> >> I am using Acronis True Image for Windows Server and I have a good backup >> of my Drives... >> >> >> >> The original Drive Arrays (they were too small so we had to upgrade to >> larger drives) have all been removed to make room for the new, larger >> hard disk arrays and the HP SmartController has been reconfigured to >> support the new RAID 5 configuration with 3 hard drives. So I cannot go >> back to the original setup. >> >> >> >> Acronis Tech support said I can restore the data partition by partition, >> (one at a time) so I can resize the partition on the new drive which is >> what we want to do. That process is running now and it will take 12 >> hours to complete. >> >> >> >> But they also said that I should not write the MBR using their software. >> They said I should boot to the recovery console and run some commands. >> They said: >> >> >> >> "Please boot up from the Windows Bootable CD, then go to the Recovery >> Console (the first Repair option you come to). >> >> >> >> From the command prompt please type: >> >> >> >> FIXMBR C: >> >> FIXBOOT C: >> >> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTLDR C:\ >> >> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\ >> >> BOOTCFG /rebuild >> >> >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> The problem is that when you do this, Windows installation will ask you >> for the administrators password before you every have a chance to enter >> the commands. The administrators name was changed for security reasons >> so the actual login name "Administrator" does not exist. Will I still be >> able to get into the Recovery Console? If not, what should I do now? >> >> >> >> Any help would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> Bikini Browser >> >> San Juan Puerto Rico >> >> >> > > I've not used this method before, however, logically (at least in my > mind), if you restore the partition and then boot the server with to the > recovery console, then the Administrator password (sometimes referred to > as the Directory Services Restore Mode password) should be the same as the > one you set when you setup SBS. > > If it isn't you can try the tool set I usually use - BartPE, or more > specifically Ultimate Boot CD for Windows - http://www.ubcd4win.com.
Guest Pegasus \(MVP\) Posted May 3, 2008 Posted May 3, 2008 Re: Recovery Console question The system will probably accept the administrator's password even though the administrator's account is now called something else. However, I think that you're worrying about something that should be of no concern. If the server won't boot up then you can easily boot it with a Windows boot floppy disk or CD, thus temporarily bypassing the commands you need to run in the Reovery Console. Once Windows is up, you can restore the Administrator's account, then fix up the boot environment if necessary. "Bikini Browser" <delete.bikini.this.browser@gmail.com> wrote in message news:u2b1nAVrIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Thanks for answering.. > > I have the password and the new username for what used to be the > "Administrator".. The problem is that I believe Windows is going to ask > me for the "Administrators" password. "Administrator" does not exist > anymore. > > So the question is, am I right? Is there a place to enter the username > versus using the default name of "Administrator"? > > OR will the system accept the current password even though the user login > name is not "Administrator"? > > Please advise > > Bikini Browser > San Juan Puerto Rico > > > > > > "leew [MVP]" <useContactPage@LWComputing.dot.com> wrote in message > news:481cad49$0$25022$607ed4bc@cv.net... >> Bikini Browser wrote: >>> Folks: >>> >>> >>> >>> I am making some changes to our SBS 2003 Server this weekend and some >>> questions have arisen that need fast answers... We are working on a >>> server which is a domain controller. (SBS 2003) >>> >>> >>> >>> I am using Acronis True Image for Windows Server and I have a good >>> backup of my Drives... >>> >>> >>> >>> The original Drive Arrays (they were too small so we had to upgrade to >>> larger drives) have all been removed to make room for the new, larger >>> hard disk arrays and the HP SmartController has been reconfigured to >>> support the new RAID 5 configuration with 3 hard drives. So I cannot go >>> back to the original setup. >>> >>> >>> >>> Acronis Tech support said I can restore the data partition by partition, >>> (one at a time) so I can resize the partition on the new drive which is >>> what we want to do. That process is running now and it will take 12 >>> hours to complete. >>> >>> >>> >>> But they also said that I should not write the MBR using their software. >>> They said I should boot to the recovery console and run some commands. >>> They said: >>> >>> >>> >>> "Please boot up from the Windows Bootable CD, then go to the Recovery >>> Console (the first Repair option you come to). >>> >>> >>> >>> From the command prompt please type: >>> >>> >>> >>> FIXMBR C: >>> >>> FIXBOOT C: >>> >>> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTLDR C:\ >>> >>> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\ >>> >>> BOOTCFG /rebuild >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> The problem is that when you do this, Windows installation will ask you >>> for the administrators password before you every have a chance to enter >>> the commands. The administrators name was changed for security reasons >>> so the actual login name "Administrator" does not exist. Will I still >>> be able to get into the Recovery Console? If not, what should I do now? >>> >>> >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bikini Browser >>> >>> San Juan Puerto Rico >>> >>> >>> >> >> I've not used this method before, however, logically (at least in my >> mind), if you restore the partition and then boot the server with to the >> recovery console, then the Administrator password (sometimes referred to >> as the Directory Services Restore Mode password) should be the same as >> the one you set when you setup SBS. >> >> If it isn't you can try the tool set I usually use - BartPE, or more >> specifically Ultimate Boot CD for Windows - http://www.ubcd4win.com. > >
Guest Jabez Gan [MVP] Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Re: Recovery Console question Yes, even though you renamed the administrator account, the UID is still the same, so logically it'll work. -- Jabez Gan Microsoft MVP: Windows Server http://www.msblog.org "Bikini Browser" <delete.bikini.this.browser@gmail.com> wrote in message news:u2b1nAVrIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Thanks for answering.. > > I have the password and the new username for what used to be the > "Administrator".. The problem is that I believe Windows is going to ask > me for the "Administrators" password. "Administrator" does not exist > anymore. > > So the question is, am I right? Is there a place to enter the username > versus using the default name of "Administrator"? > > OR will the system accept the current password even though the user login > name is not "Administrator"? > > Please advise > > Bikini Browser > San Juan Puerto Rico > > > > > > "leew [MVP]" <useContactPage@LWComputing.dot.com> wrote in message > news:481cad49$0$25022$607ed4bc@cv.net... >> Bikini Browser wrote: >>> Folks: >>> >>> >>> >>> I am making some changes to our SBS 2003 Server this weekend and some >>> questions have arisen that need fast answers... We are working on a >>> server which is a domain controller. (SBS 2003) >>> >>> >>> >>> I am using Acronis True Image for Windows Server and I have a good >>> backup of my Drives... >>> >>> >>> >>> The original Drive Arrays (they were too small so we had to upgrade to >>> larger drives) have all been removed to make room for the new, larger >>> hard disk arrays and the HP SmartController has been reconfigured to >>> support the new RAID 5 configuration with 3 hard drives. So I cannot go >>> back to the original setup. >>> >>> >>> >>> Acronis Tech support said I can restore the data partition by partition, >>> (one at a time) so I can resize the partition on the new drive which is >>> what we want to do. That process is running now and it will take 12 >>> hours to complete. >>> >>> >>> >>> But they also said that I should not write the MBR using their software. >>> They said I should boot to the recovery console and run some commands. >>> They said: >>> >>> >>> >>> "Please boot up from the Windows Bootable CD, then go to the Recovery >>> Console (the first Repair option you come to). >>> >>> >>> >>> From the command prompt please type: >>> >>> >>> >>> FIXMBR C: >>> >>> FIXBOOT C: >>> >>> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTLDR C:\ >>> >>> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\ >>> >>> BOOTCFG /rebuild >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>> >>> The problem is that when you do this, Windows installation will ask you >>> for the administrators password before you every have a chance to enter >>> the commands. The administrators name was changed for security reasons >>> so the actual login name "Administrator" does not exist. Will I still >>> be able to get into the Recovery Console? If not, what should I do now? >>> >>> >>> >>> Any help would be appreciated. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bikini Browser >>> >>> San Juan Puerto Rico >>> >>> >>> >> >> I've not used this method before, however, logically (at least in my >> mind), if you restore the partition and then boot the server with to the >> recovery console, then the Administrator password (sometimes referred to >> as the Directory Services Restore Mode password) should be the same as >> the one you set when you setup SBS. >> >> If it isn't you can try the tool set I usually use - BartPE, or more >> specifically Ultimate Boot CD for Windows - http://www.ubcd4win.com. > >
Guest Bikini Browser Posted May 4, 2008 Posted May 4, 2008 Re: Recovery Console question FYI: The project went very well over the weekend and I had no problems. I could login with the existing password. Thanks everyone for your input Bikini Browser "Jabez Gan [MVP]" <mingteikg@blizNOSPAMhosting.com> wrote in message news:D57BF4D8-415D-4251-A6DB-6A9BB06A5F38@microsoft.com... > Yes, even though you renamed the administrator account, the UID is still > the same, so logically it'll work. > > -- > Jabez Gan > Microsoft MVP: Windows Server > http://www.msblog.org > > > "Bikini Browser" <delete.bikini.this.browser@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:u2b1nAVrIHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for answering.. >> >> I have the password and the new username for what used to be the >> "Administrator".. The problem is that I believe Windows is going to ask >> me for the "Administrators" password. "Administrator" does not exist >> anymore. >> >> So the question is, am I right? Is there a place to enter the username >> versus using the default name of "Administrator"? >> >> OR will the system accept the current password even though the user login >> name is not "Administrator"? >> >> Please advise >> >> Bikini Browser >> San Juan Puerto Rico >> >> >> >> >> >> "leew [MVP]" <useContactPage@LWComputing.dot.com> wrote in message >> news:481cad49$0$25022$607ed4bc@cv.net... >>> Bikini Browser wrote: >>>> Folks: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am making some changes to our SBS 2003 Server this weekend and some >>>> questions have arisen that need fast answers... We are working on a >>>> server which is a domain controller. (SBS 2003) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I am using Acronis True Image for Windows Server and I have a good >>>> backup of my Drives... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The original Drive Arrays (they were too small so we had to upgrade to >>>> larger drives) have all been removed to make room for the new, larger >>>> hard disk arrays and the HP SmartController has been reconfigured to >>>> support the new RAID 5 configuration with 3 hard drives. So I cannot >>>> go back to the original setup. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Acronis Tech support said I can restore the data partition by >>>> partition, (one at a time) so I can resize the partition on the new >>>> drive which is what we want to do. That process is running now and it >>>> will take 12 hours to complete. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But they also said that I should not write the MBR using their >>>> software. They said I should boot to the recovery console and run some >>>> commands. They said: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Please boot up from the Windows Bootable CD, then go to the Recovery >>>> Console (the first Repair option you come to). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From the command prompt please type: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> FIXMBR C: >>>> >>>> FIXBOOT C: >>>> >>>> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTLDR C:\ >>>> >>>> COPY CDDrive:\I386\NTDETECT.COM C:\ >>>> >>>> BOOTCFG /rebuild >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> >>>> The problem is that when you do this, Windows installation will ask you >>>> for the administrators password before you every have a chance to enter >>>> the commands. The administrators name was changed for security reasons >>>> so the actual login name "Administrator" does not exist. Will I still >>>> be able to get into the Recovery Console? If not, what should I do >>>> now? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Any help would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bikini Browser >>>> >>>> San Juan Puerto Rico >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I've not used this method before, however, logically (at least in my >>> mind), if you restore the partition and then boot the server with to the >>> recovery console, then the Administrator password (sometimes referred to >>> as the Directory Services Restore Mode password) should be the same as >>> the one you set when you setup SBS. >>> >>> If it isn't you can try the tool set I usually use - BartPE, or more >>> specifically Ultimate Boot CD for Windows - http://www.ubcd4win.com. >> >> >
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