Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

April 14, 2008

My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my

computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32

banks

and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I had

upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64 MB

RAM.

I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

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Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory

limit or

boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory

hole or

gap at 16Mb?

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MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my

> computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32

> banks

> and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I

had

> upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64

MB

> RAM.

> I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

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Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's

"blue"

and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, -

"limit

memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried

increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

"Jeff Richards" wrote:

> Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory

limit or

> boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a memory

hole or

> gap at 16Mb?

> --

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com...

> > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started

my

> > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 -

32

> > banks

> > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I

had

> > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the

64 MB

> > RAM.

> > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

>

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"NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's

"blue"

> and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, -

"limit

> memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried

> increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

>

> "Jeff Richards" wrote:

>

> > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb memory

limit or

> > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a

memory

hole or

> > gap at 16Mb?

> > --

> > Jeff Richards

> > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com...

> > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and

started my

> > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2

- 32

> > > banks

> > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh

I had

> > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the

64

MB

> > > RAM.

> > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

> >

Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying to

get

windows to detect it.

My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there and

changed the cmos battery.

With the power cord disconnected,

open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM.

then make sure the bios detects the full amount

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Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

I did that. I pulled both and reinstalled them to no avail. I thought

about

switching them into slots 3 & 4 but I wasn't sure if that would do any

harm.

"philo" wrote:

>

> "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com...

> > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's

"blue"

> > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance,

-

> "limit

> > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I

tried

> > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

> >

> > "Jeff Richards" wrote:

> >

> > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb

memory

> limit or

> > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a

memory

> hole or

> > > gap at 16Mb?

> > > --

> > > Jeff Richards

> > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com...

> > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and

started my

> > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on

2 - 32

> > > > banks

> > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95

whicjh I had

> > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register

the 64

> MB

> > > > RAM.

> > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

> > >

>

> Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying

to get

> windows to detect it.

> My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there

and

> changed the cmos battery.

> With the power cord disconnected,

> open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM.

> then make sure the bios detects the full amount

>

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Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only have

two 32

MB sticks? Why not 32?

"philo" wrote:

>

> "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com...

> > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's

"blue"

> > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance,

-

> "limit

> > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I

tried

> > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

> >

> > "Jeff Richards" wrote:

> >

> > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb

memory

> limit or

> > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a

memory

> hole or

> > > gap at 16Mb?

> > > --

> > > Jeff Richards

> > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com...

> > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and

started my

> > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on

2 - 32

> > > > banks

> > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95

whicjh I had

> > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register

the 64

> MB

> > > > RAM.

> > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

> > >

>

> Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying

to get

> windows to detect it.

> My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there

and

> changed the cmos battery.

> With the power cord disconnected,

> open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM.

> then make sure the bios detects the full amount

>

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"NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only have

two

32

> MB sticks? Why not 32?

>

Well...the RAM may have gotten "zapped" by static when you opened the

case

and possibly made contact with the RAM.

If even one stick of RAM has been damaged, you may see some small odd

amount

..

If you have any spare ram sticks give them a try...

be sure to use caution

>

> >

> > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com...

> > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but

it's

"blue"

> > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config,

advance, -

> > "limit

> > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I

tried

> > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

> > >

> > > "Jeff Richards" wrote:

> > >

> > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb

memory

> > limit or

> > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a

memory

> > hole or

> > > > gap at 16Mb?

> > > > --

> > > > Jeff Richards

> > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com...

> > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and

started

my

> > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM

on 2 -

32

> > > > > banks

> > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95

whicjh I

had

> > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register

the

64

> > MB

> > > > > RAM.

> > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

> > > >

> >

> > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in trying

to

get

> > windows to detect it.

> > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in there

and

> > changed the cmos battery.

> > With the power cord disconnected,

> > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM.

> > then make sure the bios detects the full amount

> >

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Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

Who makes the bios in your machine? Is there a version number?

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"Fan924" wrote:

> Who makes the bios in your machine? Is there a version number?

>

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Did you try to reset the bios to default values?

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Sad to say I don't have any.

"philo" wrote:

>

> "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:CDA53288-2D90-4E19-A9CB-9F8EBF032A4A@microsoft.com...

> > Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only

have two

> 32

> > MB sticks? Why not 32?

> >

>

> Well...the RAM may have gotten "zapped" by static when you opened the

case

> and possibly made contact with the RAM.

> If even one stick of RAM has been damaged, you may see some small odd

amount

> ..

>

> If you have any spare ram sticks give them a try...

> be sure to use caution

>

> >

> > >

> > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com...

> > > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but

it's

> "blue"

> > > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config,

advance, -

> > > "limit

> > > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I

tried

> > > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

> > > >

> > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a 16Mb

memory

> > > limit or

> > > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable a

memory

> > > hole or

> > > > > gap at 16Mb?

> > > > > --

> > > > > Jeff Richards

> > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message

> > > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and

started

> my

> > > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM

on 2 -

> 32

> > > > > > banks

> > > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95

whicjh I

> had

> > > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to

register the

> 64

> > > MB

> > > > > > RAM.

> > > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in

trying to

> get

> > > windows to detect it.

> > > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in

there and

> > > changed the cmos battery.

> > > With the power cord disconnected,

> > > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM.

> > > then make sure the bios detects the full amount

> > >

>

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"NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> Sad to say I don't have any.

>

Try removing the RAM again and be sure the contacts are clean.

be sure to take caution for static discharge.

the contacts can be cleaned with a pencil eraser, the be sure to wipe

off

any residue.

look in the machine and blow any dust from the slots...

then reseat the RAM or possibly try the other two slots.

If you cannot get the full 64 megs detected...

if you have a computer repair shop in town...they may be kind enough to

just

give you some replacement sticks

or sell them at a low price.

A few 32 megs sticks should not cost much

> "philo" wrote:

>

> >

> > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > news:CDA53288-2D90-4E19-A9CB-9F8EBF032A4A@microsoft.com...

> > > Another thing that baffles me... Why does it show 16 when I only

have

two

> > 32

> > > MB sticks? Why not 32?

> > >

> >

> > Well...the RAM may have gotten "zapped" by static when you opened

the

case

> > and possibly made contact with the RAM.

> > If even one stick of RAM has been damaged, you may see some small

odd

amount

> > ..

> >

> > If you have any spare ram sticks give them a try...

> > be sure to use caution

> >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> > > > news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com...

> > > > > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16,

but

it's

> > "blue"

> > > > > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config,

advance, -

> > > > "limit

> > > > > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and

I

tried

> > > > > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

> > > > >

> > > > > "Jeff Richards" wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Is there another reference somewhere in BIOS setup to a

16Mb

memory

> > > > limit or

> > > > > > boundary, or some mention of an option to enable or disable

a

memory

> > > > hole or

> > > > > > gap at 16Mb?

> > > > > > --

> > > > > > Jeff Richards

> > > > > > MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> > > > > > "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message

> > > > > > news:AFD335DF-E0C6-40A9-AD88-C331AA0D0FB5@microsoft.com...

> > > > > > > My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery

and

started

> > my

> > > > > > > computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB

RAM on

2 -

> > 32

> > > > > > > banks

> > > > > > > and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95

whicjh I

> > had

> > > > > > > upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to

register

the

> > 64

> > > > MB

> > > > > > > RAM.

> > > > > > > I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

> > > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Unless your bios sees the full 64 megs, there is no point in

trying

to

> > get

> > > > windows to detect it.

> > > > My guess is that you simply loosened the RAM when you went in

there

and

> > > > changed the cmos battery.

> > > > With the power cord disconnected,

> > > > open the case, remove, then reseat the RAM.

> > > > then make sure the bios detects the full amount

> > > >

> >

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Go into the AMI BIOS Setup utility.

Copy down your current bios setup so you can put it all back if this

does not work.

To set your PC to its default values, Select:

AUTO CONFIGURATION WITH BIOS DEFAULTS

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Yes, but to no avail. I'm begining to think the memory went bad. I'm

really

careful to discharge any static before I go inside, but.... ?

"Fan924" wrote:

> Did you try to reset the bios to default values?

>

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How do I get into the AMI BIOS set up? F1 setup won't allow me into the

BIOS

settings. But F1 is where I reset the default settings, and I thought

that

would reset BIOS too.

"Fan924" wrote:

> Go into the AMI BIOS Setup utility.

> Copy down your current bios setup so you can put it all back if this

> does not work.

>

> To set your PC to its default values, Select:

> AUTO CONFIGURATION WITH BIOS DEFAULTS

>

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I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup.

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Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

I have an old AMI bios manual here. In this version, it does not auto

detect external memory size. You have to enter the bios and change the

memory size when you add memory cards.

When you pulled the battery, you lost any customizing done to your

bios settings.

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It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that

does. I

appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!!

"Fan924" wrote:

> I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup.

>

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"NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that

does.

I

> appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!!

>

> "Fan924" wrote:

>

> > I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup.

> >

Hope you get your machine working..

Please post back with the results

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"Fan924" <a924fan@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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| I have an old AMI bios manual here. In this version, it does not auto

| detect external memory size. You have to enter the bios and change

the

| memory size when you add memory cards.

|

| When you pulled the battery, you lost any customizing done to your

| bios settings.

American Magatrends, Inc V. 1.00.04.DNOR

Press DEL or INS to enter BIOS setup.

There may be a need for one of two tools, one called AMIDIAG.[once free

from AMI - advanced configuration/diagnostic utility] and/or AMISETUP

[Robert Muchsel - advanced AMI BIOS setup], or another BIOS tool. You

may

still find the free or shareware AMI tools on the Internet.

http://www.ami.com/support/bios.cfm - AMI BIOS support

----

AMI BIOS beep codes

Indicator Message

One Short Beep - DRAM Refresh Failure

Two Short Beeps - Parity Circuit Failure

Three Short Beeps - Base 64k RAM Failure

Four Short Beeps - System Timer Failure

Five Short Beeps - Processor Failure

Six Short Beeps - Keyboard Controller Error

Seven Short Beeps - Virtual Mode Exception Error

Eight Short Beeps - Display Memory Failure

Nine Short Beeps - ROM BIOS Checksum Failure

One Long and Three Short Beeps - Base/Extended Memory Failure

One Long and Eight Short Beeps - Display/Retrace Test Failure

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Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

That "Limit Memory To ?" setting is the one that's causing the problem.

You

need to get it unchecked somehow. If you can find a manual for BIOS

setup

it may explain why it's checked and set to 16, and how to clear it.

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MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

"NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's

"blue"

> and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance, -

> "limit

> memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I tried

> increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

>

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"Jeff Richards" <JRichards@msn.com.au> wrote in message

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> That "Limit Memory To ?" setting is the one that's causing the

problem.

You

> need to get it unchecked somehow. If you can find a manual for BIOS

setup

> it may explain why it's checked and set to 16, and how to clear it.

Here is an AMI BIOS data sheet someone had posted:

http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/HARDWARE/ami-bios-beeps.txt

Though I agree that *if *the bios has a 16 meg RAM limit setting...that

would be the solution...

There appears to be no such uption. I'd of course have another look in

the

bios at *all* options.

The OP mentioned that he observed that option in msconfig...

which of course is only going to list what the BIOS detects

> Jeff Richards

> MS MVP (Windows - Shell/User)

> "NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:2F5C002D-76AB-4B4C-8C75-CEDFFAD19145@microsoft.com...

> > No where that I can find. f1 setup shows the memory at 16, but it's

"blue"

> > and I can not access it to change it there. in MS Config, advance,

-

> > "limit

> > memory to" is checked and has 16. I tried unchecking it, and I

tried

> > increasing the memory to 64 but to no avail

> >

>

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"NCVET61" <NCVET61@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> My BIOS battery went dead. When I replaced the battery and started my

> computer, it only registered 16 MB of RAM. I have 64 MB RAM on 2 - 32

banks

> and 2 empty slots. It is an older HP Platinum 40 with W95 whicjh I

had

> upgraded to W98SE2. I can't find anyway to get it to register the 64

MB RAM.

> I tried MS Cong and F1 setup to no avail.

Double-check the memory modules to make sure they are really 32

megabytes. Please note that 32 bit is not the same thing as 32

megabytes.

Also, the 16 megabytes you are seeing may be built into the

motherboard.

To see if this is the case, try booting the computer without the

modules.

Ben

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Re: Computer only registers 16 RAM - have 64

NCVET61 wrote:

> It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that

> does. I appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!!

>

> "Fan924" wrote:

>

>> I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup.

Have you been able to get into the BIOS yet?

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NCVET61 wrote:

> It didn't work. I think I'll try to get new memory and see what that

> does. I appreciate everyone's help, THANKS !!!

>

> "Fan924" wrote:

>

>> I believe AMI used the delete key to get into the bios setup.

I would be surprised if the memory went bad. You really need to get

into the

BIOS and set it up, I believe.

If you have your BIOS version and your model number of your PC, the

info on

how to do this is should be available.

One question though, was this computer not in use for years and then

when

you tried it, you found the MB battery dead?

When you get if fixed, please post back.

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