No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

May 12, 2008

Hi:

In the course of formatting a bootable system diskette in Windows XP,

I noted that no mouse.com driver was included on the resulting

diskette. I was rather surprised then to find no mouse.* driver on my

installed XP system, nor could I find it in the Support\Tools folder

on the distribution CD.

Did I overlook something, or is no DOS mouse.com/.exe/.sys installed

or available with Windows XP? If not, is there a recommended default

driver/mouse.com executable people pull in to add to their boot system

floppy?

Thank you in advance for your help.

-- Roy Zider

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

I've used mouse.exe for some boot floppies, but I had it before (from my

Win98SE and DOS setup). If you look for it online or on a Win9x CD, you

can still find it.

FUBARinSFO wrote:

> Hi:

>

> In the course of formatting a bootable system diskette in Windows XP,

> I noted that no mouse.com driver was included on the resulting

> diskette. I was rather surprised then to find no mouse.* driver on my

> installed XP system, nor could I find it in the Support\Tools folder

> on the distribution CD.

>

> Did I overlook something, or is no DOS mouse.com/.exe/.sys installed

> or available with Windows XP? If not, is there a recommended default

> driver/mouse.com executable people pull in to add to their boot system

> floppy?

>

> Thank you in advance for your help.

>

> -- Roy Zider

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

"FUBARinSFO" <file1303@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:a6bc28a5-07b7-4e7d-b12e-42701a267cd0@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> Hi:

>

> In the course of formatting a bootable system diskette in Windows XP,

> I noted that no mouse.com driver was included on the resulting

> diskette. I was rather surprised then to find no mouse.* driver on my

> installed XP system, nor could I find it in the Support\Tools folder

> on the distribution CD.

>

> Did I overlook something, or is no DOS mouse.com/.exe/.sys installed

> or available with Windows XP? If not, is there a recommended default

> driver/mouse.com executable people pull in to add to their boot system

> floppy?

>

> Thank you in advance for your help.

>

> -- Roy Zider

If you manufactured a WinXP boot diskette then you won't need

a mouse, hence there is no mouse driver.

Perhaps you explain what you expect your boot diskette to do

and why you want a mouse driver.

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

> "FUBARinSFO" <file1303@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:a6bc28a5-07b7-4e7d-b12e-42701a267cd0@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

>> Hi:

>>

>> In the course of formatting a bootable system diskette in Windows XP,

>> I noted that no mouse.com driver was included on the resulting

>> diskette. I was rather surprised then to find no mouse.* driver on my

>> installed XP system, nor could I find it in the Support\Tools folder

>> on the distribution CD.

>>

>> Did I overlook something, or is no DOS mouse.com/.exe/.sys installed

>> or available with Windows XP? If not, is there a recommended default

>> driver/mouse.com executable people pull in to add to their boot system

>> floppy?

>>

>> Thank you in advance for your help.

>>

>> -- Roy Zider

>

> If you manufactured a WinXP boot diskette then you won't need

> a mouse, hence there is no mouse driver.

IF you ONLY want to boot up, that may be true, but some of us may run some

other utilities on a boot up disk, too. One such example is being able to

access the NTFS volume, folders, and files *outside* of Windows, and with a

File Explorer like interface, where a mouse is pretty essential. And -

there are other such examples.

> Perhaps you explain what you expect your boot diskette to do

> and why you want a mouse driver.

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:ube8alAtIHA.4544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Pegasus (MVP) wrote:

>> "FUBARinSFO" <file1303@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:a6bc28a5-07b7-4e7d-b12e-42701a267cd0@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

>>> Hi:

>>>

>>> In the course of formatting a bootable system diskette in Windows XP,

>>> I noted that no mouse.com driver was included on the resulting

>>> diskette. I was rather surprised then to find no mouse.* driver on my

>>> installed XP system, nor could I find it in the Support\Tools folder

>>> on the distribution CD.

>>>

>>> Did I overlook something, or is no DOS mouse.com/.exe/.sys installed

>>> or available with Windows XP? If not, is there a recommended default

>>> driver/mouse.com executable people pull in to add to their boot system

>>> floppy?

>>>

>>> Thank you in advance for your help.

>>>

>>> -- Roy Zider

>>

>> If you manufactured a WinXP boot diskette then you won't need

>> a mouse, hence there is no mouse driver.

>

> IF you ONLY want to boot up, that may be true, but some of us may run some

> other utilities on a boot up disk, too. One such example is being able

> to access the NTFS volume, folders, and files *outside* of Windows, and

> with a File Explorer like interface, where a mouse is pretty essential.

> And - there are other such examples.

>

>> Perhaps you explain what you expect your boot diskette to do

>> and why you want a mouse driver.

Most DOS boot diskettes, e.g. those from http://www.bootdisk.com, have

mouse drivers. You can also download mouse.com from this location

for a limited time:

http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1312353_2nrfp/mouse.com.

Type mouse /? to see the various options.

You would get far more replies if you posted your question in a Win98

newsgroup since the core of your question relates to DOS/Win9x, not

to WinXP.

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

There is no MSDOS in XP to run mouse.com. This is true of the entire NT

branch of Windows.

"FUBARinSFO" <file1303@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:a6bc28a5-07b7-4e7d-b12e-42701a267cd0@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...

> Hi:

>

> In the course of formatting a bootable system diskette in Windows XP,

> I noted that no mouse.com driver was included on the resulting

> diskette. I was rather surprised then to find no mouse.* driver on my

> installed XP system, nor could I find it in the Support\Tools folder

> on the distribution CD.

>

> Did I overlook something, or is no DOS mouse.com/.exe/.sys installed

> or available with Windows XP? If not, is there a recommended default

> driver/mouse.com executable people pull in to add to their boot system

> floppy?

>

> Thank you in advance for your help.

>

> -- Roy Zider

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

Colin said:

"There is no MSDOS in XP to run mouse.com. This is true of the entire

NT branch of Windows."

Thank you, Colin. That was the confirmation I was looking for.

I'll get the mouse driver I need from earlier versions of Windows.

Thank you all for your help.

-- Roy Zider

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking

for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such,

so if you're going to be literal about it, there's no need for

mouse.com since XP handles the mouse by itself.

However, if any of you have the occasion some time to create such a

floppy yourself from XP, you will note that the Format options specify

as one of the selections "Create an MS-DOS startup disk". That's MS-

DOS to me, not some stripped-down XP idea of MS-DOS without a mouse

driver.

Indeed, examining the files it does put on the diskette, it certainly

is reminiscent to me anyway of an old-timey DOS diskette -- which is

why I was surprised to find no mouse driver. When was the last time

any of you saw more.com or display.sys, let alone three EGA drivers

and five keyboard drivers on a boot diskette?

In any case, as I said I'll add the driver myself, or rather use a

boot disk creator, and will be careful about using XP to create any

boot floppies in the future. Sombody ask me for a DOS boot diskette,

don't want to give them one without a mouse driver.

-- Roy Zider

Volume in drive A has no label.

Volume Serial Number is 2A87-6CE1

Directory of A:\

04/07/2001 01:40 PM 9 MSDOS.SYS

05/15/2001 06:57 PM 116,736 IO.SYS

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA2.CPI

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,753 EGA3.CPI

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA.CPI

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 21,607 KEYB.COM

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 34,566 KEYBOARD.SYS

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,942 KEYBRD2.SYS

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,633 KEYBRD3.SYS

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 13,014 KEYBRD4.SYS

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 29,239 MODE.COM

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 93,040 COMMAND.COM

06/08/2000 05:00 PM 17,175 DISPLAY.SYS

05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT

05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 CONFIG.SYS

15 File(s) 565,454 bytes

0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

It's a legacy provision meant for situations, such as updating a BIOS, where

the computer needs to boot into DOS. The real estate on a floppy is scarce

so files are kept to the bare minimum. I don't think anyone ever

anticipated that a user would use a mouse is such a scenario.

"FUBARinSFO" <file1303@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:e81e4b60-db62-43d9-bc7e-a6f6f72665d3@d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com...

> Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking

> for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such,

> so if you're going to be literal about it, there's no need for

> mouse.com since XP handles the mouse by itself.

>

> However, if any of you have the occasion some time to create such a

> floppy yourself from XP, you will note that the Format options specify

> as one of the selections "Create an MS-DOS startup disk". That's MS-

> DOS to me, not some stripped-down XP idea of MS-DOS without a mouse

> driver.

>

> Indeed, examining the files it does put on the diskette, it certainly

> is reminiscent to me anyway of an old-timey DOS diskette -- which is

> why I was surprised to find no mouse driver. When was the last time

> any of you saw more.com or display.sys, let alone three EGA drivers

> and five keyboard drivers on a boot diskette?

>

> In any case, as I said I'll add the driver myself, or rather use a

> boot disk creator, and will be careful about using XP to create any

> boot floppies in the future. Sombody ask me for a DOS boot diskette,

> don't want to give them one without a mouse driver.

>

> -- Roy Zider

>

> Volume in drive A has no label.

> Volume Serial Number is 2A87-6CE1

>

> Directory of A:\

>

> 04/07/2001 01:40 PM 9 MSDOS.SYS

> 05/15/2001 06:57 PM 116,736 IO.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA2.CPI

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,753 EGA3.CPI

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA.CPI

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 21,607 KEYB.COM

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 34,566 KEYBOARD.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,942 KEYBRD2.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,633 KEYBRD3.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 13,014 KEYBRD4.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 29,239 MODE.COM

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 93,040 COMMAND.COM

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 17,175 DISPLAY.SYS

> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT

> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 CONFIG.SYS

> 15 File(s) 565,454 bytes

> 0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:13 PM, and on a whim, FUBARinSFO

pounded out on the keyboard:

> Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking

> for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such,

> so if you're going to be literal about it, there's no need for

> mouse.com since XP handles the mouse by itself.

>

> However, if any of you have the occasion some time to create such a

> floppy yourself from XP, you will note that the Format options specify

> as one of the selections "Create an MS-DOS startup disk". That's MS-

> DOS to me, not some stripped-down XP idea of MS-DOS without a mouse

> driver.

>

> Indeed, examining the files it does put on the diskette, it certainly

> is reminiscent to me anyway of an old-timey DOS diskette -- which is

> why I was surprised to find no mouse driver. When was the last time

> any of you saw more.com or display.sys, let alone three EGA drivers

> and five keyboard drivers on a boot diskette?

>

> In any case, as I said I'll add the driver myself, or rather use a

> boot disk creator, and will be careful about using XP to create any

> boot floppies in the future. Sombody ask me for a DOS boot diskette,

> don't want to give them one without a mouse driver.

>

> -- Roy Zider

>

> Volume in drive A has no label.

> Volume Serial Number is 2A87-6CE1

>

> Directory of A:\

>

> 04/07/2001 01:40 PM 9 MSDOS.SYS

> 05/15/2001 06:57 PM 116,736 IO.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA2.CPI

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,753 EGA3.CPI

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA.CPI

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 21,607 KEYB.COM

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 34,566 KEYBOARD.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,942 KEYBRD2.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,633 KEYBRD3.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 13,014 KEYBRD4.SYS

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 29,239 MODE.COM

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 93,040 COMMAND.COM

> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 17,175 DISPLAY.SYS

> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT

> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 CONFIG.SYS

> 15 File(s) 565,454 bytes

> 0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free

Hi Roy,

Get what you need here:

http://www.bootdisk.com/

By the way, older versions of DOS used a compressed CAB file and

RAMDRIVE.SYS for a lot of the system files (chkdsk, fomat, mscdex,

scandisk, etc.) since storage space was at a premium.

--

Terry R.

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May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

Terry R. wrote:

> The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:13 PM, and on a whim, FUBARinSFO

> pounded out on the keyboard:

>

>> Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking

>> for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such,

>> so if you're going to be literal about it, there's no need for

>> mouse.com since XP handles the mouse by itself.

>>

>> However, if any of you have the occasion some time to create such a

>> floppy yourself from XP, you will note that the Format options specify

>> as one of the selections "Create an MS-DOS startup disk". That's MS-

>> DOS to me, not some stripped-down XP idea of MS-DOS without a mouse

>> driver.

>>

>> Indeed, examining the files it does put on the diskette, it certainly

>> is reminiscent to me anyway of an old-timey DOS diskette -- which is

>> why I was surprised to find no mouse driver. When was the last time

>> any of you saw more.com or display.sys, let alone three EGA drivers

>> and five keyboard drivers on a boot diskette?

>>

>> In any case, as I said I'll add the driver myself, or rather use a

>> boot disk creator, and will be careful about using XP to create any

>> boot floppies in the future. Sombody ask me for a DOS boot diskette,

>> don't want to give them one without a mouse driver.

>>

>> -- Roy Zider

>>

>> Volume in drive A has no label.

>> Volume Serial Number is 2A87-6CE1

>>

>> Directory of A:\

>>

>> 04/07/2001 01:40 PM 9 MSDOS.SYS

>> 05/15/2001 06:57 PM 116,736 IO.SYS

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA2.CPI

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,753 EGA3.CPI

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA.CPI

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 21,607 KEYB.COM

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 34,566 KEYBOARD.SYS

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,942 KEYBRD2.SYS

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,633 KEYBRD3.SYS

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 13,014 KEYBRD4.SYS

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 29,239 MODE.COM

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 93,040 COMMAND.COM

>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 17,175 DISPLAY.SYS

>> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT

>> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 CONFIG.SYS

>> 15 File(s) 565,454 bytes

>> 0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free

>

> Hi Roy,

>

> Get what you need here:

> http://www.bootdisk.com/

>

> By the way, older versions of DOS used a compressed CAB file and

> RAMDRIVE.SYS for a lot of the system files (chkdsk, fomat, mscdex,

> scandisk, etc.) since storage space was at a premium.

Well, not ALL of what you need. I needed *mouse.exe* (Microsoft) for

some cases, and got it from an old W98SE installation.

May 12, 2008

Re: No mouse driver for DOS in Windows XP?

The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:51 PM, and on a whim, Bill in Co.

pounded out on the keyboard:

> Terry R. wrote:

>> The date and time was 5/12/2008 1:13 PM, and on a whim, FUBARinSFO

>> pounded out on the keyboard:

>>

>>> Oops, spoke too soon. That wasn't exactly the answer I was looking

>>> for, but it will have to do. I know there's no "MSDOS" in XP as such,

>>> so if you're going to be literal about it, there's no need for

>>> mouse.com since XP handles the mouse by itself.

>>>

>>> However, if any of you have the occasion some time to create such a

>>> floppy yourself from XP, you will note that the Format options specify

>>> as one of the selections "Create an MS-DOS startup disk". That's MS-

>>> DOS to me, not some stripped-down XP idea of MS-DOS without a mouse

>>> driver.

>>>

>>> Indeed, examining the files it does put on the diskette, it certainly

>>> is reminiscent to me anyway of an old-timey DOS diskette -- which is

>>> why I was surprised to find no mouse driver. When was the last time

>>> any of you saw more.com or display.sys, let alone three EGA drivers

>>> and five keyboard drivers on a boot diskette?

>>>

>>> In any case, as I said I'll add the driver myself, or rather use a

>>> boot disk creator, and will be careful about using XP to create any

>>> boot floppies in the future. Sombody ask me for a DOS boot diskette,

>>> don't want to give them one without a mouse driver.

>>>

>>> -- Roy Zider

>>>

>>> Volume in drive A has no label.

>>> Volume Serial Number is 2A87-6CE1

>>>

>>> Directory of A:\

>>>

>>> 04/07/2001 01:40 PM 9 MSDOS.SYS

>>> 05/15/2001 06:57 PM 116,736 IO.SYS

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA2.CPI

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,753 EGA3.CPI

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 58,870 EGA.CPI

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 21,607 KEYB.COM

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 34,566 KEYBOARD.SYS

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,942 KEYBRD2.SYS

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 31,633 KEYBRD3.SYS

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 13,014 KEYBRD4.SYS

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 29,239 MODE.COM

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 93,040 COMMAND.COM

>>> 06/08/2000 05:00 PM 17,175 DISPLAY.SYS

>>> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 AUTOEXEC.BAT

>>> 05/12/2008 01:04 PM 0 CONFIG.SYS

>>> 15 File(s) 565,454 bytes

>>> 0 Dir(s) 889,344 bytes free

>> Hi Roy,

>>

>> Get what you need here:

>> http://www.bootdisk.com/

>>

>> By the way, older versions of DOS used a compressed CAB file and

>> RAMDRIVE.SYS for a lot of the system files (chkdsk, fomat, mscdex,

>> scandisk, etc.) since storage space was at a premium.

>

> Well, not ALL of what you need. I needed *mouse.exe* (Microsoft) for

> some cases, and got it from an old W98SE installation.

>

The boot floppies I have use mouse.com. Anyway, both can be found at

the site:

http://www.bootdisk.com/readme.htm

Scroll down to "I want a mouse in DOS"

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