recycle bin: delete confirmation dialog

[Guest John]

hi,

 

i want to set up my recycle bin to just delete a file, without storing it. i

just want to select any file, choose delete from the context menu and the

file just disappear for good. i know that selecting properties and checking

the box for 'remove files immediately', removes the files permanently, but i

do not want the system to ask me if i am sure or not, with the confirmation

dialog. on this properties applet, the checkbox for "display delete

confirmation dialog box" is already unchecked and greyed out, after ive also

checked the remove files immediately box. how do i make it so the system

doesnt ask me if i am sure? ive already told it here, on this options applet,

to not ask me, so why is it still asking me anyway?

 

on this properties page, i have the radio bullet selecting to use one

setting for all drives. below that, the box for 'display delete confirmation

box' is unchecked, then, i have the checkbox ticked for 'do not move files to

recycle bin. remove files immediately when deleted.' once that box is

checked, the area below for displaying the confirmation, greys out, and the

box for that remains unchecked. so, all that i have selected here, should

really not be displaying any confirmation. but it still does. why??

[Guest Mart]

Re: recycle bin: delete confirmation dialog

 

> i want to set up my recycle bin to just delete a file, without storing it.

> i

> just want to select any file, choose delete from the context menu and the

> file just disappear for good.

 

Press and hold the Shift key before/during deletion prevents it going to the

recycle bin.

 

Mart

 

 

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> hi,

>

i know that selecting properties and checking

> the box for 'remove files immediately', removes the files permanently, but

> i

> do not want the system to ask me if i am sure or not, with the

> confirmation

> dialog. on this properties applet, the checkbox for "display delete

> confirmation dialog box" is already unchecked and greyed out, after ive

> also

> checked the remove files immediately box. how do i make it so the system

> doesnt ask me if i am sure? ive already told it here, on this options

> applet,

> to not ask me, so why is it still asking me anyway?

>

> on this properties page, i have the radio bullet selecting to use one

> setting for all drives. below that, the box for 'display delete

> confirmation

> box' is unchecked, then, i have the checkbox ticked for 'do not move files

> to

> recycle bin. remove files immediately when deleted.' once that box is

> checked, the area below for displaying the confirmation, greys out, and

> the

> box for that remains unchecked. so, all that i have selected here, should

> really not be displaying any confirmation. but it still does. why??

[Guest John]

Re: recycle bin: delete confirmation dialog

 

yes mart, i know about holding the shift key down..... that doesnt answer my

question, and neither does it change anything. holding the shift key down, is

for when you dont have the check box selected for deleting files immediately.

if you read my message, you would know that i already have that selected. so,

currently, when i choose to delete a file, it still asks me if i am sure. if

i say yes, the file is deleted completely from the system and not stored in

the recycle bin. my initial request in my first post was why, if i have

specified in preferences to not have a dialog, that there is still a dialog?

 

i want to be able to delete any file, permanently without being stored in

the recycle bin, and not have to bother with any dialog asking me if i am

sure, or whatever else. i just want to select the file and press the delete

key, with nothing else to come of it. i am not asking for keyboard shortcuts,

or anything else. i just want to delete a file with the press of the delete

key and that be the end of it. currently, i cannot do that, without answering

a yes or no question, yet the system shows that i should be able to just

delete it, without any dialog.

 

i hope you understand what i am saying.

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: recycle bin: delete confirmation dialog

 

The one option gets grayed out when you choose the other because the latter

makes the former irrelevant and no longer an option. You can't have both. If

you want immediate, permanent delete, you are going to get the confirmation

dialogue, whether it's done using the RB properties or you use the Shift-Del

method. MS (and most sensible people) consider what you want to be way too

risky. Accidents DO happen. You will ALWAYS get a confirmation dialogue when

the delete will be permanent. Like when you empty the RB.

 

All of the above applies to the use of Windows Explorer. There may be other

file management software that let you do what you want.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> yes mart, i know about holding the shift key down..... that doesnt answer

> my

> question, and neither does it change anything. holding the shift key down,

> is

> for when you dont have the check box selected for deleting files

> immediately.

> if you read my message, you would know that i already have that selected.

> so,

> currently, when i choose to delete a file, it still asks me if i am sure.

> if

> i say yes, the file is deleted completely from the system and not stored

> in

> the recycle bin. my initial request in my first post was why, if i have

> specified in preferences to not have a dialog, that there is still a

> dialog?

>

> i want to be able to delete any file, permanently without being stored in

> the recycle bin, and not have to bother with any dialog asking me if i am

> sure, or whatever else. i just want to select the file and press the

> delete

> key, with nothing else to come of it. i am not asking for keyboard

> shortcuts,

> or anything else. i just want to delete a file with the press of the

> delete

> key and that be the end of it. currently, i cannot do that, without

> answering

> a yes or no question, yet the system shows that i should be able to just

> delete it, without any dialog.

>

> i hope you understand what i am saying.

[Guest John]

Re: recycle bin: delete confirmation dialog

 

gary,

 

okay, then if if is considered by the general wise public to be risky to

delete without confirmation, why was the option finally enabled in windows

xp, where is it actually possible to just click and delete permanently

without confirmation? if its so risky, why is it not as important anymore as

written code in windows xp? just curious really. thanks

[Guest Gary S. Terhune]

Re: recycle bin: delete confirmation dialog

 

I guess enough power users complained and MS changed the policy. I was, of

course, referring to the policies of Microsoft when they developed Windows

98. I said nothing about the "general public". I used the phrase "most

sensible people", and that was my opinion, of course. One I stand by. No

confirmation is too risky as a general policy. I might like it for certain

operations, but not for general, day-to-day usage.

 

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

 

"John" <John@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> gary,

>

> okay, then if if is considered by the general wise public to be risky to

> delete without confirmation, why was the option finally enabled in windows

> xp, where is it actually possible to just click and delete permanently

> without confirmation? if its so risky, why is it not as important anymore

> as

> written code in windows xp? just curious really. thanks