OT: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

[Guest Greg Brown]

If I have a SATA card that is for 1.5GB connections, can I connect a

SATA 3.0GB hard drive to it? Will it just thottle it down to 1.5GB?

[Guest Big Al]

Re: OT: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

Greg Brown wrote:

> If I have a SATA card that is for 1.5GB connections, can I connect a

> SATA 3.0GB hard drive to it? Will it just thottle it down to 1.5GB?

Bingo, the weakest link in the chain.

[Guest Anna]

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

 

"Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> If I have a SATA card that is for 1.5GB connections, can I connect a

> SATA 3.0GB hard drive to it? Will it just thottle it down to 1.5GB?

 

 

Greg:

Frankly I wouldn't worry too much about the "throttling down" issue. With

rare exceptions you would see virtually no real-life difference re data

transfer rates between a SATA 1.5 Gb/s drive and a SATA 3.0 Gb/s drive

connected to one of these SATA controller cards - assuming the card works as

advertised.

 

But what you would have to be concerned about is...

 

Whether the SATA controller card (regardless of whether it was designed to

support SATA-II HDDs) would even work in a reliable way.

 

By & large our experience with SATA controller cards (regardless of whether

they were designed to accommodate SATA-I or SATA-II drives) has been quite

negative - to the point where we recommended against their use unless there

was no other viable recourse available to the user. We have simply found

them (we've used a fairly wide variety of these devices) to be erratic and

unreliable on a day-in day-out basis. Drive recognition issues have been an

ongoing nagging problem in our experience.

 

I fully realize there are users who have found these devices useful and have

experienced no problems using them. But as a general proposition we have

found too many problems to recommend them . Our position has been if the

motherboard does not have built-in SATA capability, then continue to use

PATA HDDs in your system. Or better yet, if feasible, purchase a new

motherboard with SATA capability.

 

These SATA controller cards - especially the ones that support only the 1.5

Gb/s interface data transfer rate - have dramatically fallen in price over

the past year or two, so I guess that's sort of an incentive for a user to

try them out. (I've seen some of them on sale for as little as $15 from

online vendors). Since you already have one I suppose it's worth a try to

see how it will work with the SATA-II HDD you're contemplating.

Theoretically the SATA-II HDD is backwards compatible with the 1.5 Gb/s

specification so there should there be no drive recognition problem. If

there is such a problem and your SATA-II HDD is equipped with jumpers to

select the 1.5 Gb/s (not all SATA-II HDDs are so equipped), then jumper the

drive accordingly and hope for the best.

Anna

[Guest WindPipe]

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

 

Hello Anna, would you know if it is the same case for SATA CD-DVD drives, in terms of

reliability? Connecting on to a SATA controller car that is. I'm about to connect one into

my Nephew's PC, his MoBo has 2 SATA-I connectors that already has 2 HD connected to them,

and wants to connect up his new SATA CD-DVD drive via, his SATA controller card. We'll do it

anyway, just asking if you know from your experience if you have seen the same deal with

optical drives.

 

Thanks and regards,

- WindPipe

 

Anna wrote:

> "Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fef0f52e-156b-4e10-a1f5-a886bf31eb22@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> If I have a SATA card that is for 1.5GB connections, can I connect a

>> SATA 3.0GB hard drive to it? Will it just thottle it down to 1.5GB?

>

>

> Greg:

> Frankly I wouldn't worry too much about the "throttling down" issue. With

> rare exceptions you would see virtually no real-life difference re data

> transfer rates between a SATA 1.5 Gb/s drive and a SATA 3.0 Gb/s drive

> connected to one of these SATA controller cards - assuming the card works as

> advertised.

>

> But what you would have to be concerned about is...

>

> Whether the SATA controller card (regardless of whether it was designed to

> support SATA-II HDDs) would even work in a reliable way.

>

> By & large our experience with SATA controller cards (regardless of whether

> they were designed to accommodate SATA-I or SATA-II drives) has been quite

> negative - to the point where we recommended against their use unless there

> was no other viable recourse available to the user. We have simply found

> them (we've used a fairly wide variety of these devices) to be erratic and

> unreliable on a day-in day-out basis. Drive recognition issues have been an

> ongoing nagging problem in our experience.

>

> I fully realize there are users who have found these devices useful and have

> experienced no problems using them. But as a general proposition we have

> found too many problems to recommend them . Our position has been if the

> motherboard does not have built-in SATA capability, then continue to use

> PATA HDDs in your system. Or better yet, if feasible, purchase a new

> motherboard with SATA capability.

>

> These SATA controller cards - especially the ones that support only the 1.5

> Gb/s interface data transfer rate - have dramatically fallen in price over

> the past year or two, so I guess that's sort of an incentive for a user to

> try them out. (I've seen some of them on sale for as little as $15 from

> online vendors). Since you already have one I suppose it's worth a try to

> see how it will work with the SATA-II HDD you're contemplating.

> Theoretically the SATA-II HDD is backwards compatible with the 1.5 Gb/s

> specification so there should there be no drive recognition problem. If

> there is such a problem and your SATA-II HDD is equipped with jumpers to

> select the 1.5 Gb/s (not all SATA-II HDDs are so equipped), then jumper the

> drive accordingly and hope for the best.

> Anna

>

>

[Guest DL]

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

My experience of Sata Raid cards is that any issues seem to be in proportion

to the price paid for the card.

I have seen issues with onboard Sata Raid controllers as fitted in low end

boards, but no issues with a card that cost $300+

It is also the case that some cards will not function correctly on some

mobo's for indeterminate reasons (As detailed to me in extensive

conversations with Adpatec)

 

"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message

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>

> "Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:fef0f52e-156b-4e10-a1f5-a886bf31eb22@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>> If I have a SATA card that is for 1.5GB connections, can I connect a

>> SATA 3.0GB hard drive to it? Will it just thottle it down to 1.5GB?

>

>

> Greg:

> Frankly I wouldn't worry too much about the "throttling down" issue. With

> rare exceptions you would see virtually no real-life difference re data

> transfer rates between a SATA 1.5 Gb/s drive and a SATA 3.0 Gb/s drive

> connected to one of these SATA controller cards - assuming the card works

> as advertised.

>

> But what you would have to be concerned about is...

>

> Whether the SATA controller card (regardless of whether it was designed to

> support SATA-II HDDs) would even work in a reliable way.

>

> By & large our experience with SATA controller cards (regardless of

> whether they were designed to accommodate SATA-I or SATA-II drives) has

> been quite negative - to the point where we recommended against their use

> unless there was no other viable recourse available to the user. We have

> simply found them (we've used a fairly wide variety of these devices) to

> be erratic and unreliable on a day-in day-out basis. Drive recognition

> issues have been an ongoing nagging problem in our experience.

>

> I fully realize there are users who have found these devices useful and

> have experienced no problems using them. But as a general proposition we

> have found too many problems to recommend them . Our position has been if

> the motherboard does not have built-in SATA capability, then continue to

> use PATA HDDs in your system. Or better yet, if feasible, purchase a new

> motherboard with SATA capability.

>

> These SATA controller cards - especially the ones that support only the

> 1.5 Gb/s interface data transfer rate - have dramatically fallen in price

> over the past year or two, so I guess that's sort of an incentive for a

> user to try them out. (I've seen some of them on sale for as little as $15

> from online vendors). Since you already have one I suppose it's worth a

> try to see how it will work with the SATA-II HDD you're contemplating.

> Theoretically the SATA-II HDD is backwards compatible with the 1.5 Gb/s

> specification so there should there be no drive recognition problem. If

> there is such a problem and your SATA-II HDD is equipped with jumpers to

> select the 1.5 Gb/s (not all SATA-II HDDs are so equipped), then jumper

> the drive accordingly and hope for the best.

> Anna

>

[Guest Anna]

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

>> "Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:fef0f52e-156b-4e10-a1f5-a886bf31eb22@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>>> If I have a SATA card that is for 1.5GB connections, can I connect a

>>> SATA 3.0GB hard drive to it? Will it just thottle it down to 1.5GB?

 

>> Anna wrote:

>> Greg:

>> Frankly I wouldn't worry too much about the "throttling down" issue. With

>> rare exceptions you would see virtually no real-life difference re data

>> transfer rates between a SATA 1.5 Gb/s drive and a SATA 3.0 Gb/s drive

>> connected to one of these SATA controller cards - assuming the card works

>> >> as advertised.

>>

>> But what you would have to be concerned about is...

>>

>> Whether the SATA controller card (regardless of whether it was designed

>> to support SATA-II HDDs) would even work in a reliable way.

>>

>> By & large our experience with SATA controller cards (regardless of

>> whether they were designed to accommodate SATA-I or SATA-II drives) has

>> >> been quite negative - to the point where we recommended against their

>> use >> unless there was no other viable recourse available to the user.

>> We have simply found them (we've used a fairly wide variety of these

>> devices) to be >> erratic and unreliable on a day-in day-out basis.

>> Drive recognition issues >> have been an ongoing nagging problem in our

>> experience.

>>

>> I fully realize there are users who have found these devices useful and

>> have experienced no problems using them. But as a general proposition we

>> have found too many problems to recommend them . Our position has been if

>> the >> motherboard does not have built-in SATA capability, then continue

>> to use PATA HDDs in your system. Or better yet, if feasible, purchase a

>> new motherboard with SATA capability.

>>

>> These SATA controller cards - especially the ones that support only the

>> 1.5 Gb/s interface data transfer rate - have dramatically fallen in price

>> over the past year or two, so I guess that's sort of an incentive for a

>> user to try them out. (I've seen some of them on sale for as little as

>> $15 from online vendors). Since you already have one I suppose it's worth

>> a try to see how it will work with the SATA-II HDD you're contemplating.

>> Theoretically the SATA-II HDD is backwards compatible with the 1.5 Gb/s

>> specification so there should there be no drive recognition problem. If

>> there is such a problem and your SATA-II HDD is equipped with jumpers to

>> >> select the 1.5 Gb/s (not all SATA-II HDDs are so equipped), then

>> jumper the drive accordingly and hope for the best.

>> Anna

 

 

"WindPipe" <wind_pipe@msnews.com> wrote in message

news:eMiphuZtIHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Hello Anna, would you know if it is the same case for SATA CD-DVD drives,

> in terms of reliability? Connecting on to a SATA controller car that is.

> I'm about to connect one into my Nephew's PC, his MoBo has 2 SATA-I

> connectors that already has 2 HD connected to them, and wants to connect

> up his new SATA CD-DVD drive via, his SATA controller card. We'll do it

> anyway, just asking if you know from your experience if you have seen the

> same deal with optical drives.

>

> Thanks and regards,

> - WindPipe

 

 

WindPipe (I assume you're not the OP?)...

I've had only one (maybe two) experiences re connecting a SATA optical drive

to a SATA controller card (and I can't recall whether the card(s) were

SATA-I or SATA-II devices, should that even matter). I don't recall any

problem resulting from this connection - the optical drive(s) performed just

fine, but again, this is based on only one or two experiences. My guess

would be - but it would be *only* a guess - that a user would be less likely

to experience the kinds of problems we ran into (that I described above)

when using the SATA controller card for a SATA HDD connection. Perhaps other

users coming upon this thread can relate there experiences in this area.

 

As you say, since your nephew already has both components give it a try and

see how it goes. And please keep us informed of the results. And if you do,

indicate the make/model of both the optical drive and the SATA controller

card.

Anna

[Guest WindPipe]

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

Re: SATA 1.5GB vs 3.0GB

 

 

Thank you kindly Anna, and will do.

 

- WindPipe (Not the OP)

 

Anna wrote:

>>> "Greg Brown" <gregvbrown@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>>> news:fef0f52e-156b-4e10-a1f5-a886bf31eb22@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

>>>> If I have a SATA card that is for 1.5GB connections, can I connect a

>>>> SATA 3.0GB hard drive to it? Will it just thottle it down to 1.5GB?

>

>

>>> Anna wrote:

>>> Greg:

>>> Frankly I wouldn't worry too much about the "throttling down" issue. With

>>> rare exceptions you would see virtually no real-life difference re data

>>> transfer rates between a SATA 1.5 Gb/s drive and a SATA 3.0 Gb/s drive

>>> connected to one of these SATA controller cards - assuming the card works

>>> >> as advertised.

>>>

>>> But what you would have to be concerned about is...

>>>

>>> Whether the SATA controller card (regardless of whether it was designed

>>> to support SATA-II HDDs) would even work in a reliable way.

>>>

>>> By & large our experience with SATA controller cards (regardless of

>>> whether they were designed to accommodate SATA-I or SATA-II drives) has

>>> >> been quite negative - to the point where we recommended against their

>>> use >> unless there was no other viable recourse available to the user.

>>> We have simply found them (we've used a fairly wide variety of these

>>> devices) to be >> erratic and unreliable on a day-in day-out basis.

>>> Drive recognition issues >> have been an ongoing nagging problem in our

>>> experience.

>>>

>>> I fully realize there are users who have found these devices useful and

>>> have experienced no problems using them. But as a general proposition we

>>> have found too many problems to recommend them . Our position has been if

>>> the >> motherboard does not have built-in SATA capability, then continue

>>> to use PATA HDDs in your system. Or better yet, if feasible, purchase a

>>> new motherboard with SATA capability.

>>>

>>> These SATA controller cards - especially the ones that support only the

>>> 1.5 Gb/s interface data transfer rate - have dramatically fallen in price

>>> over the past year or two, so I guess that's sort of an incentive for a

>>> user to try them out. (I've seen some of them on sale for as little as

>>> $15 from online vendors). Since you already have one I suppose it's worth

>>> a try to see how it will work with the SATA-II HDD you're contemplating.

>>> Theoretically the SATA-II HDD is backwards compatible with the 1.5 Gb/s

>>> specification so there should there be no drive recognition problem. If

>>> there is such a problem and your SATA-II HDD is equipped with jumpers to

>>> >> select the 1.5 Gb/s (not all SATA-II HDDs are so equipped), then

>>> jumper the drive accordingly and hope for the best.

>>> Anna

>

>

> "WindPipe" <wind_pipe@msnews.com> wrote in message

> news:eMiphuZtIHA.3420@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Hello Anna, would you know if it is the same case for SATA CD-DVD drives,

>> in terms of reliability? Connecting on to a SATA controller car that is.

>> I'm about to connect one into my Nephew's PC, his MoBo has 2 SATA-I

>> connectors that already has 2 HD connected to them, and wants to connect

>> up his new SATA CD-DVD drive via, his SATA controller card. We'll do it

>> anyway, just asking if you know from your experience if you have seen the

>> same deal with optical drives.

>>

>> Thanks and regards,

>> - WindPipe

>

>

> WindPipe (I assume you're not the OP?)...

> I've had only one (maybe two) experiences re connecting a SATA optical drive

> to a SATA controller card (and I can't recall whether the card(s) were

> SATA-I or SATA-II devices, should that even matter). I don't recall any

> problem resulting from this connection - the optical drive(s) performed just

> fine, but again, this is based on only one or two experiences. My guess

> would be - but it would be *only* a guess - that a user would be less likely

> to experience the kinds of problems we ran into (that I described above)

> when using the SATA controller card for a SATA HDD connection. Perhaps other

> users coming upon this thread can relate there experiences in this area.

>

> As you say, since your nephew already has both components give it a try and

> see how it goes. And please keep us informed of the results. And if you do,

> indicate the make/model of both the optical drive and the SATA controller

> card.

> Anna

>

>