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Re: win xp sp3

 

YW. That was my prime suspect, too.

 

Make sure you have the courtesy to post this in a reply to your techguy.org

forum thread, too.

 

How did it come to be installed in the first place?

 

[Think your Registry needs "cleaning" or "repairing"? Read

http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.]

--

~PA Bear

 

 

Larry wrote:

> Pa Bear I did some unstalling of Advanced Windows Care, and my though is

> that that program was using up all my resources. After uninstall, Apps.

> open faster, IE7 is more responsive as well. I think for now I'll call

> this

> one "solved" Thanks to you and Ken for all your thoughts Larry

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>> Thanks.

>>

>> May I ask why you chose to post your log there (again)? Looks like no

>> one

>> ever replied to either of your earlier threads:

>>

>> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/703986-combl-log-fix-log-hjt.html

>> (Apr-08)

>>

>> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/675545-hijackthis-log.html

>> (Jan-08)

>> --

>> ~PA Bear

>>

>>

>> Larry wrote:

>>> Hey Ken I told you I'm not real smart, again I'm sorry I think this

>>> is

>>> the link you want Larry

>>>

>>> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/712186-pc-slow-infection-again.html

>>>

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>

>>>> Close but no cigar. That's a link to THIS thread. I'm asking for a

>>>> link

>>>> to your thread at http://forums.techguy.org.

>>>>

>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>> Pa Bear Here is the link you requested

>>>>>

>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&mid=2ebb2d16-7a92-412c-af54-01f660d0e70b

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> A link is the URL (http://......) that's displayed in Address Bar

>>>>>> when

>>>>>> you've opened your forum thread.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>>>> I am not real tech smart, so don't laugh, but what is a link and how

>>>>>>> do

>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>> post one. Larry

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Please post a link to your thread, Larry.

>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

>>>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> log

>>>>>>>>> file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little

>>>>>>>>> while

>>>>>>>>> ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry

>>>>>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The

>>>>>>>>>>> pc

>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each

>>>>>>>>>>> day

>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care

>>>>>>>>>>> v-2

>>>>>>>>>>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A

>>>>>>>>>>> couple

>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an

>>>>>>>>>>> hour

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected,

>>>>>>>>>> there's

>>>>>>>>>> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and

>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>> are still infected.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and

>>>>>>>>>> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's

>>>>>>>>>> likely

>>>>>>>>>> your best course.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't

>>>>>>>>>>> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is

>>>>>>>>>>> nothing

>>>>>>>>>>> all

>>>>>>>>>>> that spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia

>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox,

>>>>>>>>>>> Broderbund, ( a will making app.) and family search ( a

>>>>>>>>>>> geneology

>>>>>>>>>>> app.)

>>>>>>>>>>> Thats about all I use. So I don't know what is going on. If it

>>>>>>>>>>> help's

>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>> disk space is 37 gb with 84% free Larry

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry

>>>>>>>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since

>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows

>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes

>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>> reach

>>>>>>>>>>>>> my desktop, or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> still

>>>>>>>>>>>>> have 84% available. The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this

>>>>>>>>>>>>> might

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Several points:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a

>>>>>>>>>>>> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or

>>>>>>>>>>>> most,

>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory

>>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see

>>>>>>>>>>>> any

>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have

>>>>>>>>>>>> all

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will

>>>>>>>>>>>> use

>>>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>>> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need

>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>> In

>>>>>>>>>>>> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the

>>>>>>>>>>>> time.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after

>>>>>>>>>>>> booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean

>>>>>>>>>>>> 512MB.

>>>>>>>>>>>> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good

>>>>>>>>>>>> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get

>>>>>>>>>>>> good

>>>>>>>>>>>> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using

>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people

>>>>>>>>>>>> running

>>>>>>>>>>>> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere

>>>>>>>>>>>> around

>>>>>>>>>>>> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>>>>>>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

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Re: win xp sp3

 

It came to be installed because I was downloading nearly everything I could

find to cleanup virus spyware adware malware. I used advanced win clr and it

found alot of issues, it had what is called a memory cleaner, which each time

I ran that it freed up my memory for a day anyhow. I thought it was the fix I

was looking for, wrong. Anyway things are much better now I'll stay away

from that software and any registry cleaners. I read the link you set up, I

don't need to get into all of that. Like I said before, I'm not real tech

smart, but I know just enough to get myself in trouble. I did post on TECH

Guys that that post was resolved. Again Thanks for the help Larry

 

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> YW. That was my prime suspect, too.

>

> Make sure you have the courtesy to post this in a reply to your techguy.org

> forum thread, too.

>

> How did it come to be installed in the first place?

>

> [Think your Registry needs "cleaning" or "repairing"? Read

> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.]

> --

> ~PA Bear

>

>

> Larry wrote:

> > Pa Bear I did some unstalling of Advanced Windows Care, and my though is

> > that that program was using up all my resources. After uninstall, Apps.

> > open faster, IE7 is more responsive as well. I think for now I'll call

> > this

> > one "solved" Thanks to you and Ken for all your thoughts Larry

> >

> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >> Thanks.

> >>

> >> May I ask why you chose to post your log there (again)? Looks like no

> >> one

> >> ever replied to either of your earlier threads:

> >>

> >> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/703986-combl-log-fix-log-hjt.html

> >> (Apr-08)

> >>

> >> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/675545-hijackthis-log.html

> >> (Jan-08)

> >> --

> >> ~PA Bear

> >>

> >>

> >> Larry wrote:

> >>> Hey Ken I told you I'm not real smart, again I'm sorry I think this

> >>> is

> >>> the link you want Larry

> >>>

> >>> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/712186-pc-slow-infection-again.html

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> Close but no cigar. That's a link to THIS thread. I'm asking for a

> >>>> link

> >>>> to your thread at http://forums.techguy.org.

> >>>>

> >>>> Larry wrote:

> >>>>> Pa Bear Here is the link you requested

> >>>>>

> >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&mid=2ebb2d16-7a92-412c-af54-01f660d0e70b

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>> A link is the URL (http://......) that's displayed in Address Bar

> >>>>>> when

> >>>>>> you've opened your forum thread.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Larry wrote:

> >>>>>>> I am not real tech smart, so don't laugh, but what is a link and how

> >>>>>>> do

> >>>>>>> you

> >>>>>>> post one. Larry

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Please post a link to your thread, Larry.

> >>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

> >>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

> >>>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

> >>>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Larry wrote:

> >>>>>>>>> Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and sent

> >>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>> log

> >>>>>>>>> file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a little

> >>>>>>>>> while

> >>>>>>>>> ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry

> >>>>>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The

> >>>>>>>>>>> pc

> >>>>>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>>>>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each

> >>>>>>>>>>> day

> >>>>>>>>>>> I

> >>>>>>>>>>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care

> >>>>>>>>>>> v-2

> >>>>>>>>>>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A

> >>>>>>>>>>> couple

> >>>>>>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an

> >>>>>>>>>>> hour

> >>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected,

> >>>>>>>>>> there's

> >>>>>>>>>> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly, and

> >>>>>>>>>> you

> >>>>>>>>>> are still infected.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat and

> >>>>>>>>>> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's

> >>>>>>>>>> likely

> >>>>>>>>>> your best course.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't

> >>>>>>>>>>> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is

> >>>>>>>>>>> nothing

> >>>>>>>>>>> all

> >>>>>>>>>>> that spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia

> >>>>>>>>>>> Firefox,

> >>>>>>>>>>> Broderbund, ( a will making app.) and family search ( a

> >>>>>>>>>>> geneology

> >>>>>>>>>>> app.)

> >>>>>>>>>>> Thats about all I use. So I don't know what is going on. If it

> >>>>>>>>>>> help's

> >>>>>>>>>>> my

> >>>>>>>>>>> disk space is 37 gb with 84% free Larry

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry

> >>>>>>>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> windows

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> updated it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6 minutes

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> reach

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> my desktop, or is somthing else going on. On my disk space I

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> still

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> have 84% available. The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> might

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Several points:

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a

> >>>>>>>>>>>> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or

> >>>>>>>>>>>> most,

> >>>>>>>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free memory

> >>>>>>>>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>>>>>> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see

> >>>>>>>>>>>> any

> >>>>>>>>>>>> of

> >>>>>>>>>>>> it

> >>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have

> >>>>>>>>>>>> all

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will

> >>>>>>>>>>>> use

> >>>>>>>>>>>> that

> >>>>>>>>>>>> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need

> >>>>>>>>>>>> it.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> In

> >>>>>>>>>>>> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> time.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow after

> >>>>>>>>>>>> booting?

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 512MB.

> >>>>>>>>>>>> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good

> >>>>>>>>>>>> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get

> >>>>>>>>>>>> good

> >>>>>>>>>>>> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from using

> >>>>>>>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>>>>> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people

> >>>>>>>>>>>> running

> >>>>>>>>>>>> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere

> >>>>>>>>>>>> around

> >>>>>>>>>>>> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> --

> >>>>>>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

> >>>>>>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>

>

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]

Posted
Posted

Re: win xp sp3

 

If you ever need help with such issues again, post at http://aumha.net

instead, Larry.

--

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002

AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

 

Larry wrote:

> It came to be installed because I was downloading nearly everything I

> could

> find to cleanup virus spyware adware malware. I used advanced win clr and

> it

> found alot of issues, it had what is called a memory cleaner, which each

> time I ran that it freed up my memory for a day anyhow. I thought it was

> the fix I was looking for, wrong. Anyway things are much better now I'll

> stay away from that software and any registry cleaners. I read the link

> you set up, I don't need to get into all of that. Like I said before, I'm

> not real tech smart, but I know just enough to get myself in trouble. I

> did

> post on TECH Guys that that post was resolved. Again Thanks for the help

> Larry

>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>

>> YW. That was my prime suspect, too.

>>

>> Make sure you have the courtesy to post this in a reply to your

>> techguy.org

>> forum thread, too.

>>

>> How did it come to be installed in the first place?

>>

>> [Think your Registry needs "cleaning" or "repairing"? Read

>> http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own conclusions.]

>> --

>> ~PA Bear

>>

>>

>> Larry wrote:

>>> Pa Bear I did some unstalling of Advanced Windows Care, and my though

>>> is

>>> that that program was using up all my resources. After uninstall, Apps.

>>> open faster, IE7 is more responsive as well. I think for now I'll call

>>> this

>>> one "solved" Thanks to you and Ken for all your thoughts Larry

>>>

>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>> Thanks.

>>>>

>>>> May I ask why you chose to post your log there (again)? Looks like no

>>>> one

>>>> ever replied to either of your earlier threads:

>>>>

>>>> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/703986-combl-log-fix-log-hjt.html

>>>> (Apr-08)

>>>>

>>>> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/675545-hijackthis-log.html

>>>> (Jan-08)

>>>> --

>>>> ~PA Bear

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>> Hey Ken I told you I'm not real smart, again I'm sorry I think this

>>>>> is

>>>>> the link you want Larry

>>>>>

>>>>> http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/712186-pc-slow-infection-again.html

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>> Close but no cigar. That's a link to THIS thread. I'm asking for a

>>>>>> link

>>>>>> to your thread at http://forums.techguy.org.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>>>> Pa Bear Here is the link you requested

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroups/reader.mspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general&mid=2ebb2d16-7a92-412c-af54-01f660d0e70b

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> A link is the URL (http://......) that's displayed in Address Bar

>>>>>>>> when

>>>>>>>> you've opened your forum thread.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>>>>>> I am not real tech smart, so don't laugh, but what is a link and

>>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>>> do

>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>> post one. Larry

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Please post a link to your thread, Larry.

>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)

>>>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since

>>>>>>>>>> 2002

>>>>>>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net

>>>>>>>>>> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Ken I also forget to mention that I did a hijackthis scan and

>>>>>>>>>>> sent

>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> log

>>>>>>>>>>> file to a web site called Tech Guys for their inspection, a

>>>>>>>>>>> little

>>>>>>>>>>> while

>>>>>>>>>>> ago, this afternoon 5/14/08 Larry

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 10:05:16 -0700, Larry

>>>>>>>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The

>>>>>>>>>>>>> pc

>>>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> slow to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner

>>>>>>>>>>>>> each

>>>>>>>>>>>>> day

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>> defrag every day. I have software called advanced windows care

>>>>>>>>>>>>> v-2

>>>>>>>>>>>>> personnal I use each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A

>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple

>>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago I downloaded AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an

>>>>>>>>>>>>> hour

>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>> results was 24568 warnings of possible infections.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> That's an *enormous* number. If you were that badly infected,

>>>>>>>>>>>> there's

>>>>>>>>>>>> an excellent chance that not everything was cleaned properly,

>>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> you

>>>>>>>>>>>> are still infected.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm usually very reluctant to recommend that someone reformat

>>>>>>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>>>>>>> clean install, but with a system that badly compromised, that's

>>>>>>>>>>>> likely

>>>>>>>>>>>> your best course.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't

>>>>>>>>>>>>> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is

>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing

>>>>>>>>>>>>> all

>>>>>>>>>>>>> that spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Broderbund, ( a will making app.) and family search ( a

>>>>>>>>>>>>> geneology

>>>>>>>>>>>>> app.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thats about all I use. So I don't know what is going on. If

>>>>>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>>>>> help's

>>>>>>>>>>>>> my

>>>>>>>>>>>>> disk space is 37 gb with 84% free Larry

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 08:47:03 -0700, Larry

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Larry@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just wondering, is sp3 eating up all my ram or not. Since

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windows

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated it to my pc, The pc is painfully slow, (like 6

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reach

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my desktop, or is somthing else going on. On my disk space

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have 84% available. The ram I have is just 520 mg, so this

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Several points:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory Windows uses is a

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use all, or

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad. Free

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> memory

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want to see

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wasted.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is the computer just slow to boot, or is it also slow

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> booting?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. You say "The ram I have is just 520 mg." I assume you mean

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 512MB.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For most people, that's fine. How much RAM you need for good

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance is *not* a one-size-fits-all situation. You get

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance if the amount of RAM you have keeps you from

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page file, and that depends on what apps you run. Most people

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a typical range of business applications find that somewhere

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 256-384MB works well, others need 512MB.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --

>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience

>>>>>>>>>>>> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Guest Bill Sharpe

Guest Bill Sharpe

Posted
Posted

Re: win xp sp3

 

Mike wrote:

> 520MB?!! Don't even think about it with less than 2GB

>

>

I installed SP3 on my six-year-old laptop with only 256 mb RAM. Yes,

it's slow starting -- but not nearly six minutes -- but once started

programs run just fine. I don't do much multitasking with this machine

-- but Office 2007 programs run reasonably well, one at a time.

 

Not surprisingly, SP3 installation took three times as long on the

laptop as it did on my desktop, which has 1 gb RAM

 

Bill

Guest Bill Sharpe

Guest Bill Sharpe

Posted
Posted

Re: win xp sp3

 

Larry wrote:

> Hello Ken Blake I appoligize, yes I ment 512 mb of ram. The pc is slow

> to boot and open apps. as well. I use the disk cleaner each day I defrag

> every day. I have software called advanced windows care v-2 personnal I use

> each day, along with it's memory cleaner. A couple of weeks ago I downloaded

> AVG 8.0 free, ran the scan and after an hour the results was 24568 warnings

> of possible infections. I used the clean button to remove all of these, don't

> know if that was the right thing to do. My pc's software is nothing all that

> spectacular, Quicken 2005, Openoffice 2.4, Mozillia Firefox, Broderbund, ( a

> will making app.) and family search ( a geneology app.) Thats about all I

> use. So I don't know what is going on. If it help's my disk space is 37 gb

> with 84% free Larry

>

AVG 8.0 has been reported as being a resource hog, which may be slowing

your system down. Do a Google search or see

http://forum.piriform.com/index.php?showtopic=15584

 

Bill

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Re: win xp sp3

 

i installed windows xp sp3 on my gateway laptop and i have 2 gb of ram amd

athlon 64 x2 1.7 ghz and it slowed it way down vista faster on it so i un

installed is there going to be any fixes for it any time soon

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Re: win xp sp3

 

SWAMPPY <SWAMPPY@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>i installed windows xp sp3 on my gateway laptop and i have 2 gb of ram amd

>athlon 64 x2 1.7 ghz and it slowed it way down vista faster on it so i un

>installed is there going to be any fixes for it any time soon

 

No.

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