MS Config Startup List

May 15, 2008

Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list for

msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

May 15, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and the

program isn't listed there.

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list for

> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

May 15, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Run MSINFO32, look in the Software section, Startup Programs, and find the

appropriate entry or entries. What's it say in the "Loaded from..." column?

"Startup Group" = Start>Programs>Startup folder shortcut.

"Registry (Machine Run)" =

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

"Registry (Machine Service)" =

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

Why did you "delete" the program instead of uninstalling it properly?

Uninstalling properly should have removed the startup entry. Not

uninstalling properly probably left a LOT of crap behind and you should

reinstall and then uninstall properly.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list for

> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

May 15, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

I forgot some items in my previous:

Registry (Per User Run) = HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

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>I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and the

> program isn't listed there.

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list

>> for

>> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

>> --

>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>

>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>>

>

May 15, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Why not run a search for the file (exe) (within the registry). I know

it's a bit time consuming, but it's bound to be found. (I'm pretty used to

it)

DaffyD® wrote:

> I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and the

> program isn't listed there.

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list

>> for

>> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

>> --

>> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>>

>> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

May 15, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

DaffyD® wrote:

| I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and

| the program isn't listed there.

If you have an item in "MSConfig, Startup tab" duplicated, but one is

checked & the other(s) are not, check them all & click "Apply, OK". It

will ask that you reboot. Answer "No". You will be left with just one,

if they were true duplicates. "Then you should either uninstall the

programs you don't want loaded or use their setup/config programs to

disable the parts you don't want loaded", says Richard G. Harper (MVP

MPS-D). But if it doesn't work (it only works for the ones in the

Registry), or you have an unchecked one without a duplicate, then...

MSConfig keeps it in Startup, just in case you want to check it again.

It has not been loaded to run, as Ctrl-Alt-Del shows. It has been moved

to a Minus (-) Key in the Registry. To remove it from the Registry, you

may navigate to the Key, and delete the entry under it. That will also

remove it from MSConfig Startup, where you will no longer be able to

check it. It's probably under one of these Keys:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run-

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run-

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

-

^... That minus sign wrapped away from "RunServices-".

Also here:

"C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\Disabled Startup Items"

"START, Run, Win.ini". Delete any 'norun' entries under the [Windows]

section.

You would navigate to each key, by clicking the plus signs in the left

pane. When you see "Run-", click it and look in the right pane, for what

looks like the one your looking for. R-Clk it in the right pane and

select "delete". However, first: "Registry menu, Export Registry File".

This will create a .reg file of that Minus Key, which you may run (by

clicking) to undo the delete you are about to do. All of that can more

easily be done with

http://www.pcmag.com/ ' RegEdit+, which has a customizable "Favorites"

list, which includes those Minus Keys. It also has automatic "undo".

Registry Detective is another worthy program freely downloadable there.

StartupCop may really be what you need, also there.

Watch out, keep the LoadPowerProfiles, and, I guess, any virus scanner

duplicates.

| "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

|> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup

|> list for msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

|> --

|> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|>

|> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

--

Thanks or Good Luck,

There may be humor in this post, and,

Naturally, you will not sue,

Should things get worse after this,

PCR

pcrrcp@netzero.net

May 17, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think the best

solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box in the

Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program. The only

thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called Anapod

Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with her first

before I make these changes. If she loses access to her tunes--she'll kill

me!

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> I forgot some items in my previous:

>

> Registry (Per User Run) =

HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and the

> > program isn't listed there.

> >

> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list

> >> for

> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> >> --

> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >>

> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >>

> >

>

May 17, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Thanks, Bill. I found some instances of it, but I'm reluctant to remove any

of them since removing the file might affect the program itself. And see my

response to Gary of the possible dire consequences of this action.

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message

news:%23r3rSvktIHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Why not run a search for the file (exe) (within the registry). I know

> it's a bit time consuming, but it's bound to be found. (I'm pretty used

to

> it)

>

> DaffyD® wrote:

> > I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and the

> > program isn't listed there.

> >

> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list

> >> for

> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> >> --

> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >>

> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

May 17, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

PCR, you are always so dependable in responding with comprehensive

information, even if I'm already familar with it. You're always a joy to

work with. BTW, check out a program called Registry Crawler. I've been using

it for years. Can't remember whether it's freeware or shareware.

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

news:ukph$dutIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> DaffyD® wrote:

> | I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and

> | the program isn't listed there.

>

> If you have an item in "MSConfig, Startup tab" duplicated, but one is

> checked & the other(s) are not, check them all & click "Apply, OK". It

> will ask that you reboot. Answer "No". You will be left with just one,

> if they were true duplicates. "Then you should either uninstall the

> programs you don't want loaded or use their setup/config programs to

> disable the parts you don't want loaded", says Richard G. Harper (MVP

> MPS-D). But if it doesn't work (it only works for the ones in the

> Registry), or you have an unchecked one without a duplicate, then...

>

> MSConfig keeps it in Startup, just in case you want to check it again.

> It has not been loaded to run, as Ctrl-Alt-Del shows. It has been moved

> to a Minus (-) Key in the Registry. To remove it from the Registry, you

> may navigate to the Key, and delete the entry under it. That will also

> remove it from MSConfig Startup, where you will no longer be able to

> check it. It's probably under one of these Keys:

>

> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run-

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run-

> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

> -

> ^... That minus sign wrapped away from "RunServices-".

>

> Also here:

> "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\Disabled Startup Items"

> "START, Run, Win.ini". Delete any 'norun' entries under the [Windows]

> section.

>

> You would navigate to each key, by clicking the plus signs in the left

> pane. When you see "Run-", click it and look in the right pane, for what

> looks like the one your looking for. R-Clk it in the right pane and

> select "delete". However, first: "Registry menu, Export Registry File".

> This will create a .reg file of that Minus Key, which you may run (by

> clicking) to undo the delete you are about to do. All of that can more

> easily be done with

> http://www.pcmag.com/ ' RegEdit+, which has a customizable "Favorites"

> list, which includes those Minus Keys. It also has automatic "undo".

> Registry Detective is another worthy program freely downloadable there.

> StartupCop may really be what you need, also there.

>

> Watch out, keep the LoadPowerProfiles, and, I guess, any virus scanner

> duplicates.

>

> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> | news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> |> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup

> |> list for msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> |> --

> |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> |>

> |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

> --

> Thanks or Good Luck,

> There may be humor in this post, and,

> Naturally, you will not sue,

> Should things get worse after this,

> PCR

> pcrrcp@netzero.net

>

May 17, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Well, yeah, if the item is UNchecked in MSCONFIG, the items get moved to

different places. Run & RunServices key items get moved to Run- and

RunServices- keys, Startup Group items get moved to a folder called Disabled

Startup Items folder. WIN.INI items are simply commented out.

Have you considered looking up any Help for Anapod?

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/support/

Unfortunately, they want you to sign in before they'll even let you read the

damned Help!! But if they're worth a damn, they'll tell you how to

uninstall, what to do with her Tunes, etc. I don't know jack about iPODs or

any of that other stuff. Last thing I want is things stuffed in my ears. And

I have all the music I could possibly want.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:e7yVAhCuIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think the best

> solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box in the

> Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program. The only

> thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called Anapod

> Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with her first

> before I make these changes. If she loses access to her tunes--she'll kill

> me!

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> I forgot some items in my previous:

>>

>> Registry (Per User Run) =

> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

>> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and the

>> > program isn't listed there.

>> >

>> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list

>> >> for

>> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

>> >> --

>> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>> >>

>> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>> >>

>> >

>>

>

May 17, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

You should note that Anapod has had some Anti-virus/Anti-SpyWare programs

find it as a problem. MAY either be a hack or an access point for Trojans,

SpyWare, and other.

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OIRqZUDuIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| Well, yeah, if the item is UNchecked in MSCONFIG, the items get moved to

| different places. Run & RunServices key items get moved to Run- and

| RunServices- keys, Startup Group items get moved to a folder called

Disabled

| Startup Items folder. WIN.INI items are simply commented out.

|

| Have you considered looking up any Help for Anapod?

| http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/support/

|

| Unfortunately, they want you to sign in before they'll even let you read

the

| damned Help!! But if they're worth a damn, they'll tell you how to

| uninstall, what to do with her Tunes, etc. I don't know jack about iPODs

or

| any of that other stuff. Last thing I want is things stuffed in my ears.

And

| I have all the music I could possibly want.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| news:e7yVAhCuIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think the best

| > solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box in

the

| > Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program. The

only

| > thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called Anapod

| > Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with her

first

| > before I make these changes. If she loses access to her tunes--she'll

kill

| > me!

| > --

| > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

| >

| > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| >> I forgot some items in my previous:

| >>

| >> Registry (Per User Run) =

| > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

| >> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

| >>

| >> --

| >> Gary S. Terhune

| >> MS-MVP Shell/User

| >> http://www.grystmill.com

| >>

| >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| >> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| >> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and

the

| >> > program isn't listed there.

| >> >

| >> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| >> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| >> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup

list

| >> >> for

| >> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

| >> >> --

| >> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

| >> >>

| >> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

| >> >>

| >> >

| >>

| >

|

May 17, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

No, DaffyD and daughter should note such. I don't use any such service, and

I don't let my machine get used for such things. I get pissed off if my

daughter uses this machine to view YouTube.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eiqLD7DuIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> You should note that Anapod has had some Anti-virus/Anti-SpyWare programs

> find it as a problem. MAY either be a hack or an access point for Trojans,

> SpyWare, and other.

>

> --

> MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:OIRqZUDuIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | Well, yeah, if the item is UNchecked in MSCONFIG, the items get moved to

> | different places. Run & RunServices key items get moved to Run- and

> | RunServices- keys, Startup Group items get moved to a folder called

> Disabled

> | Startup Items folder. WIN.INI items are simply commented out.

> |

> | Have you considered looking up any Help for Anapod?

> | http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/support/

> |

> | Unfortunately, they want you to sign in before they'll even let you read

> the

> | damned Help!! But if they're worth a damn, they'll tell you how to

> | uninstall, what to do with her Tunes, etc. I don't know jack about iPODs

> or

> | any of that other stuff. Last thing I want is things stuffed in my ears.

> And

> | I have all the music I could possibly want.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | http://www.grystmill.com

> |

> | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> | news:e7yVAhCuIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think the

> best

> | > solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box in

> the

> | > Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program. The

> only

> | > thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called Anapod

> | > Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with her

> first

> | > before I make these changes. If she loses access to her tunes--she'll

> kill

> | > me!

> | > --

> | > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> | >

> | > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | >> I forgot some items in my previous:

> | >>

> | >> Registry (Per User Run) =

> | > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

> | >> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

> | >>

> | >> --

> | >> Gary S. Terhune

> | >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> | >> http://www.grystmill.com

> | >>

> | >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> | >> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | >> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and

> the

> | >> > program isn't listed there.

> | >> >

> | >> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> | >> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> | >> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup

> list

> | >> >> for

> | >> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> | >> >> --

> | >> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> | >> >>

> | >> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> | >> >>

> | >> >

> | >>

> | >

> |

>

May 17, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Oh, yeah, meant them of course.

Seems most of the younger/newer users could care less if they whack a system

or other's,,, gotta have all that "connection" and ability to use all that

"rad" stuff regardless of whether it cause damage

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:Oqc0oSEuIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| No, DaffyD and daughter should note such. I don't use any such service,

and

| I don't let my machine get used for such things. I get pissed off if my

| daughter uses this machine to view YouTube.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

| http://www.grystmill.com

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:eiqLD7DuIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > You should note that Anapod has had some Anti-virus/Anti-SpyWare

programs

| > find it as a problem. MAY either be a hack or an access point for

Trojans,

| > SpyWare, and other.

| >

| > --

| > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:OIRqZUDuIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | Well, yeah, if the item is UNchecked in MSCONFIG, the items get moved

to

| > | different places. Run & RunServices key items get moved to Run- and

| > | RunServices- keys, Startup Group items get moved to a folder called

| > Disabled

| > | Startup Items folder. WIN.INI items are simply commented out.

| > |

| > | Have you considered looking up any Help for Anapod?

| > | http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/support/

| > |

| > | Unfortunately, they want you to sign in before they'll even let you

read

| > the

| > | damned Help!! But if they're worth a damn, they'll tell you how to

| > | uninstall, what to do with her Tunes, etc. I don't know jack about

iPODs

| > or

| > | any of that other stuff. Last thing I want is things stuffed in my

ears.

| > And

| > | I have all the music I could possibly want.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > |

| > | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| > | news:e7yVAhCuIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | > Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think the

| > best

| > | > solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box

in

| > the

| > | > Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program.

The

| > only

| > | > thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called

Anapod

| > | > Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with her

| > first

| > | > before I make these changes. If she loses access to her

tunes--she'll

| > kill

| > | > me!

| > | > --

| > | > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

| > | >

| > | > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | >> I forgot some items in my previous:

| > | >>

| > | >> Registry (Per User Run) =

| > | > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

| > | >> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

| > | >>

| > | >> --

| > | >> Gary S. Terhune

| > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | >> http://www.grystmill.com

| > | >>

| > | >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| > | >> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | >> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys

and

| > the

| > | >> > program isn't listed there.

| > | >> >

| > | >> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| > | >> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > | >> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the

Startup

| > list

| > | >> >> for

| > | >> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

| > | >> >> --

| > | >> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

| > | >> >>

| > | >> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

| > | >> >>

| > | >> >

| > | >>

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 18, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:OEicJmCuIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| PCR, you are always so dependable in responding with comprehensive

| information, even if I'm already familar with it. You're always a joy

to

| work with.

Thanks. So... did you find the item & delete it? If it is still checked

in MSConfig, Startup tab, uncheck it to get it into a minus key or one

of the other locations. Then, go hunt for it again where me 'n Terhune

said.

| BTW, check out a program called Registry Crawler. I've been using

| it for years. Can't remember whether it's freeware or shareware.

I seems to have a "free personal version" as well as one you may pay

for. I used Jouni Vuorio's RegCleaner once long ago-- after owning &

fearing it for a year! Nothing bad happened, though some keys did return

to my Registry on their own. But since then I nevertheless have sworn

never to do it again! Most MVPs will hunt you down if you do it twice!

| --

| { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|

| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

|

| "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message

| news:ukph$dutIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > DaffyD® wrote:

| > | I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys

and

| > | the program isn't listed there.

| >

| > If you have an item in "MSConfig, Startup tab" duplicated, but one

is

| > checked & the other(s) are not, check them all & click "Apply, OK".

It

| > will ask that you reboot. Answer "No". You will be left with just

one,

| > if they were true duplicates. "Then you should either uninstall the

| > programs you don't want loaded or use their setup/config programs to

| > disable the parts you don't want loaded", says Richard G. Harper

(MVP

| > MPS-D). But if it doesn't work (it only works for the ones in the

| > Registry), or you have an unchecked one without a duplicate, then...

| >

| > MSConfig keeps it in Startup, just in case you want to check it

again.

| > It has not been loaded to run, as Ctrl-Alt-Del shows. It has been

moved

| > to a Minus (-) Key in the Registry. To remove it from the Registry,

you

| > may navigate to the Key, and delete the entry under it. That will

also

| > remove it from MSConfig Startup, where you will no longer be able to

| > check it. It's probably under one of these Keys:

| >

| > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run-

| > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run-

| >

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

| > -

| > ^... That minus sign wrapped away from "RunServices-".

| >

| > Also here:

| > "C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\Disabled Startup Items"

| > "START, Run, Win.ini". Delete any 'norun' entries under the

[Windows]

| > section.

| >

| > You would navigate to each key, by clicking the plus signs in the

left

| > pane. When you see "Run-", click it and look in the right pane, for

what

| > looks like the one your looking for. R-Clk it in the right pane and

| > select "delete". However, first: "Registry menu, Export Registry

File".

| > This will create a .reg file of that Minus Key, which you may run

(by

| > clicking) to undo the delete you are about to do. All of that can

more

| > easily be done with

| > http://www.pcmag.com/ ' RegEdit+, which has a customizable

"Favorites"

| > list, which includes those Minus Keys. It also has automatic "undo".

| > Registry Detective is another worthy program freely downloadable

there.

| > StartupCop may really be what you need, also there.

| >

| > Watch out, keep the LoadPowerProfiles, and, I guess, any virus

scanner

| > duplicates.

|

| >

| > | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| > | news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > |> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup

| > |> list for msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

| > |> --

| > |> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

| > |>

| > |> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

| >

| > --

| > Thanks or Good Luck,

| > There may be humor in this post, and,

| > Naturally, you will not sue,

| > Should things get worse after this,

| > PCR

| > pcrrcp@netzero.net

| >

|

May 18, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

I can't login either because I refuse to register software or anything else

that I buy. Apod has a tech support FAQ that anyone can access but doesn't

cover the issue. However, I know how to fix the problem now.

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:OIRqZUDuIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> Well, yeah, if the item is UNchecked in MSCONFIG, the items get moved to

> different places. Run & RunServices key items get moved to Run- and

> RunServices- keys, Startup Group items get moved to a folder called

Disabled

> Startup Items folder. WIN.INI items are simply commented out.

>

> Have you considered looking up any Help for Anapod?

> http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/support/

>

> Unfortunately, they want you to sign in before they'll even let you read

the

> damned Help!! But if they're worth a damn, they'll tell you how to

> uninstall, what to do with her Tunes, etc. I don't know jack about iPODs

or

> any of that other stuff. Last thing I want is things stuffed in my ears.

And

> I have all the music I could possibly want.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:e7yVAhCuIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think the best

> > solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box in

the

> > Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program. The

only

> > thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called Anapod

> > Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with her

first

> > before I make these changes. If she loses access to her tunes--she'll

kill

> > me!

> > --

> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >

> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> >> I forgot some items in my previous:

> >>

> >> Registry (Per User Run) =

> > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

> >> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

> >>

> >> --

> >> Gary S. Terhune

> >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> >> http://www.grystmill.com

> >>

> >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> >> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> >> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys and

the

> >> > program isn't listed there.

> >> >

> >> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> >> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> >> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup

list

> >> >> for

> >> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> >> >> --

> >> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >> >>

> >> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >> >>

> >> >

> >>

> >

>

May 18, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Actually I did delete it properly. The problem was that I had it unchecked

from the startup group in msconfig and should have put a check in the box

before the uninstall. I'll put in this extra step if I have to delete it

again.

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:u2EM%23dktIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Run MSINFO32, look in the Software section, Startup Programs, and find the

> appropriate entry or entries. What's it say in the "Loaded from..."

column?

>

> "Startup Group" = Start>Programs>Startup folder shortcut.

> "Registry (Machine Run)" =

> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

> "Registry (Machine Service)" =

> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

>

> Why did you "delete" the program instead of uninstalling it properly?

> Uninstalling properly should have removed the startup entry. Not

> uninstalling properly probably left a LOT of crap behind and you should

> reinstall and then uninstall properly.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list

for

> > msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> > --

> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> >

> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> >

>

May 18, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

This is a purchased version--$24.95. iTunes isn't compatible with Win98 SE

(who knew?) so we had to go the Anapod route. When you pay $200 for an iPod

for your daughter she needs to be able to transfer mp3s from the hard drive

and Anapod was the best game in town.

--

{ : [|]=( DaffyD®

If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:Oqc0oSEuIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> No, DaffyD and daughter should note such. I don't use any such service,

and

> I don't let my machine get used for such things. I get pissed off if my

> daughter uses this machine to view YouTube.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

>

> "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eiqLD7DuIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> > You should note that Anapod has had some Anti-virus/Anti-SpyWare

programs

> > find it as a problem. MAY either be a hack or an access point for

Trojans,

> > SpyWare, and other.

> >

> > --

> > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> > --

> > _________

> >

> > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > news:OIRqZUDuIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > | Well, yeah, if the item is UNchecked in MSCONFIG, the items get moved

to

> > | different places. Run & RunServices key items get moved to Run- and

> > | RunServices- keys, Startup Group items get moved to a folder called

> > Disabled

> > | Startup Items folder. WIN.INI items are simply commented out.

> > |

> > | Have you considered looking up any Help for Anapod?

> > | http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/support/

> > |

> > | Unfortunately, they want you to sign in before they'll even let you

read

> > the

> > | damned Help!! But if they're worth a damn, they'll tell you how to

> > | uninstall, what to do with her Tunes, etc. I don't know jack about

iPODs

> > or

> > | any of that other stuff. Last thing I want is things stuffed in my

ears.

> > And

> > | I have all the music I could possibly want.

> > |

> > | --

> > | Gary S. Terhune

> > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> > | http://www.grystmill.com

> > |

> > | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> > | news:e7yVAhCuIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > | > Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think the

> > best

> > | > solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box

in

> > the

> > | > Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program.

The

> > only

> > | > thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called

Anapod

> > | > Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with her

> > first

> > | > before I make these changes. If she loses access to her

tunes--she'll

> > kill

> > | > me!

> > | > --

> > | > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> > | >

> > | > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> > | >

> > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> > | > news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> > | >> I forgot some items in my previous:

> > | >>

> > | >> Registry (Per User Run) =

> > | > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

> > | >> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

> > | >>

> > | >> --

> > | >> Gary S. Terhune

> > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User

> > | >> http://www.grystmill.com

> > | >>

> > | >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> > | >> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> > | >> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys

and

> > the

> > | >> > program isn't listed there.

> > | >> >

> > | >> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

> > | >> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> > | >> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the

Startup

> > list

> > | >> >> for

> > | >> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

> > | >> >> --

> > | >> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

> > | >> >>

> > | >> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

> > | >> >>

> > | >> >

> > | >>

> > | >

> > |

> >

>

May 18, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

Yep, gotta keep em happy.

Keep it updated, and monitored as well as you can [sitewise] Though that

will likely be difficult as the best "free" songs and stuff are on the very

sites that need monitored the most, or avoided...

--

MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

--

_________

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:uieeOoIuIHA.4772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| This is a purchased version--$24.95. iTunes isn't compatible with Win98

SE

| (who knew?) so we had to go the Anapod route. When you pay $200 for an

iPod

| for your daughter she needs to be able to transfer mp3s from the hard

drive

| and Anapod was the best game in town.

| --

| { : [|]=( DaffyD®

|

| If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

|

| "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| news:Oqc0oSEuIHA.2188@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > No, DaffyD and daughter should note such. I don't use any such service,

| and

| > I don't let my machine get used for such things. I get pissed off if my

| > daughter uses this machine to view YouTube.

| >

| > --

| > Gary S. Terhune

| > MS-MVP Shell/User

| > http://www.grystmill.com

| >

| > "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > news:eiqLD7DuIHA.1772@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > > You should note that Anapod has had some Anti-virus/Anti-SpyWare

| programs

| > > find it as a problem. MAY either be a hack or an access point for

| Trojans,

| > > SpyWare, and other.

| > >

| > > --

| > > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > > --

| > > _________

| > >

| > > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > > news:OIRqZUDuIHA.1316@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > > | Well, yeah, if the item is UNchecked in MSCONFIG, the items get

moved

| to

| > > | different places. Run & RunServices key items get moved to Run- and

| > > | RunServices- keys, Startup Group items get moved to a folder called

| > > Disabled

| > > | Startup Items folder. WIN.INI items are simply commented out.

| > > |

| > > | Have you considered looking up any Help for Anapod?

| > > | http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/support/

| > > |

| > > | Unfortunately, they want you to sign in before they'll even let you

| read

| > > the

| > > | damned Help!! But if they're worth a damn, they'll tell you how to

| > > | uninstall, what to do with her Tunes, etc. I don't know jack about

| iPODs

| > > or

| > > | any of that other stuff. Last thing I want is things stuffed in my

| ears.

| > > And

| > > | I have all the music I could possibly want.

| > > |

| > > | --

| > > | Gary S. Terhune

| > > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > > |

| > > | "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| > > | news:e7yVAhCuIHA.4260@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > > | > Thanks. I reviewed these and the program wasn't there. I think

the

| > > best

| > > | > solution is what was proposed in these responses, to check the box

| in

| > > the

| > > | > Startup group, reboot, and then delete and reinstall the program.

| The

| > > only

| > > | > thing keeping me from doing this is that it's a program called

| Anapod

| > > | > Explorer which my daughter uses with her IPod. Gotta check with

her

| > > first

| > > | > before I make these changes. If she loses access to her

| tunes--she'll

| > > kill

| > > | > me!

| > > | > --

| > > | > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

| > > | >

| > > | > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

| > > | >

| > > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > > | > news:OqCbWgktIHA.524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > > | >> I forgot some items in my previous:

| > > | >>

| > > | >> Registry (Per User Run) =

| > > | > HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

| > > | >> WIN.INI: Load= or Run= lines. (forget how that looks in MSINFO32

| > > | >>

| > > | >> --

| > > | >> Gary S. Terhune

| > > | >> MS-MVP Shell/User

| > > | >> http://www.grystmill.com

| > > | >>

| > > | >> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| > > | >> news:%23qndNaktIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > > | >> >I should have also stated I've already checked the HKLM run keys

| and

| > > the

| > > | >> > program isn't listed there.

| > > | >> >

| > > | >> > "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

| > > | >> > news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

| > > | >> >> Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the

| Startup

| > > list

| > > | >> >> for

| > > | >> >> msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

| > > | >> >> --

| > > | >> >> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

| > > | >> >>

| > > | >> >> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

| > > | >> >>

| > > | >> >

| > > | >>

| > > | >

| > > |

| > >

| >

|

May 18, 2008

Re: MS Config Startup List

A matter of important semantics: You DO NOT delete installed programs in

Windows. You uninstall them. You're going to get the same warning any time

you say, "I deleted a program".

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

http://www.grystmill.com

"DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

news:u7DZydIuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Actually I did delete it properly. The problem was that I had it

> unchecked

> from the startup group in msconfig and should have put a check in the box

> before the uninstall. I'll put in this extra step if I have to delete it

> again.

> --

> { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>

> If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:u2EM%23dktIHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Run MSINFO32, look in the Software section, Startup Programs, and find

>> the

>> appropriate entry or entries. What's it say in the "Loaded from..."

> column?

>>

>> "Startup Group" = Start>Programs>Startup folder shortcut.

>> "Registry (Machine Run)" =

>> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

>> "Registry (Machine Service)" =

>> HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

>>

>> Why did you "delete" the program instead of uninstalling it properly?

>> Uninstalling properly should have removed the startup entry. Not

>> uninstalling properly probably left a LOT of crap behind and you should

>> reinstall and then uninstall properly.

>>

>> --

>> Gary S. Terhune

>> MS-MVP Shell/User

>> http://www.grystmill.com

>>

>> "DaffyD®" <daffyd@woohoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:ObhfWYktIHA.4716@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>> > Where in the registry do I go to remove an entry from the Startup list

> for

>> > msconfig? I've already deleted the program.

>> > --

>> > { : [|]=( DaffyD®

>> >

>> > If I knew where I was I'd be there now.

>> >

>>

>

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