Any experience installing SP3 on a Mac BootCamp partition?

[Guest Juan I. Cahis]

Dear friends, do you have any experience installing Windows SP3 for

XP-Pro on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

I access this partition through BootCamp and also through VMWare

Fusion without any problem up to now. My installation is fully updated

from the updates from Microsoft (including those post SP3), Apple

(including BootCamp 2.1 for Windows) and VMWare (1.2), but before

installing SP3, I would want to read some experiences from you.

 

Any hint?

 

 

Thanks

Juan I. Cahis

Santiago de Chile (South America)

Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

[Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Re: Any experience installing SP3 on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

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Juan I. Cahis wrote:

> Dear friends, do you have any experience installing Windows SP3 for

> XP-Pro on a Mac BootCamp partition?

>

> I access this partition through BootCamp and also through VMWare

> Fusion without any problem up to now. My installation is fully updated

> from the updates from Microsoft (including those post SP3), Apple

> (including BootCamp 2.1 for Windows) and VMWare (1.2), but before

> installing SP3, I would want to read some experiences from you.

>

> Any hint?

>

>

> Thanks

> Juan I. Cahis

> Santiago de Chile (South America)

> Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

[Guest Colin Barnhorst]

Re: Any experience installing SP3 on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

I updated the drivers with the Boot Camp 2.1 update and then all went quite

well. I used Windows Update to do the upgrade. I am running XP Pro SP3 on

a MacBook Pro (core duo edition).

 

"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message

news:3sjo24d9frutgsunpfj5evc0fqgbd4kbmr@4ax.com...

Dear friends, do you have any experience installing Windows SP3 for

XP-Pro on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

I access this partition through BootCamp and also through VMWare

Fusion without any problem up to now. My installation is fully updated

from the updates from Microsoft (including those post SP3), Apple

(including BootCamp 2.1 for Windows) and VMWare (1.2), but before

installing SP3, I would want to read some experiences from you.

 

Any hint?

 

 

Thanks

Juan I. Cahis

Santiago de Chile (South America)

Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

[Guest Juan I. Cahis]

Re: Any experience installing SP3 on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

Dear Colin & friends, I tried it, through Windows Update, and I

received the message that the upgrade failed with error 0x8020000E.

Doing a search in Microsoft site with this error number, I got

KB936929, but frankly, I don't see any relationship between this

article and SP3. KB936929 is related to a failed .NET 3.0

installation.

 

If I send to you the file "SETUPAPI.LOG", could it be helpful to solve

my problem?

 

Any hint?

 

"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>I updated the drivers with the Boot Camp 2.1 update and then all went quite

>well. I used Windows Update to do the upgrade. I am running XP Pro SP3 on

>a MacBook Pro (core duo edition).

>

>"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message

>news:3sjo24d9frutgsunpfj5evc0fqgbd4kbmr@4ax.com...

>Dear friends, do you have any experience installing Windows SP3 for

>XP-Pro on a Mac BootCamp partition?

>

>I access this partition through BootCamp and also through VMWare

>Fusion without any problem up to now. My installation is fully updated

>from the updates from Microsoft (including those post SP3), Apple

>(including BootCamp 2.1 for Windows) and VMWare (1.2), but before

>installing SP3, I would want to read some experiences from you.

>

>Any hint?

>

>

>Thanks

>Juan I. Cahis

>Santiago de Chile (South America)

>Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

Thanks

Juan I. Cahis

Santiago de Chile (South America)

Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

[Guest Donald L McDaniel]

Re: Any experience installing SP3 on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

On Thu, 15 May 2008 11:03:01 -0400, Juan I. Cahis

<jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote:

>Dear friends, do you have any experience installing Windows SP3 for

>XP-Pro on a Mac BootCamp partition?

>

>I access this partition through BootCamp and also through VMWare

>Fusion without any problem up to now. My installation is fully updated

>from the updates from Microsoft (including those post SP3), Apple

>(including BootCamp 2.1 for Windows) and VMWare (1.2), but before

>installing SP3, I would want to read some experiences from you.

>

>Any hint?

>

>

>Thanks

>Juan I. Cahis

>Santiago de Chile (South America)

>Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

 

Sure, here are a few hints:

 

1) You do NOT "access this partition through BootCamp Assistant". You

DID "create the partition" using BootCamp Assistant.

 

2) There is no such thing as "BootCamp 2.1 for Windows", since

BootCamp is NOT a Windows application. It is a purely-OSX

application, and will NOT run on Windows in ANY WAY. It is properly

called "BootCamp Assistant 2.1 for OS X". It "lives" on your OS X

system partition, works under your OS X operating system, and adds

nothing to Windows, other than the ability to cold-boot immediately

into OS X from within Windows, and even that part is a Windows

application, not an OS X application.)

 

Ergo, it is simply not a Windows application, and as such, is NEVER

running while in Windows.

 

3) When running Windows on such a partition on your Mac, once the OSX

bootloader hands the machine off to Windows, OS X is NOT IN MEMORY

anymore. This means that OS X is NO LONGER RUNNING ON THAT MACHINE,

as long as Window has control of it.

 

4) Once Windows is installed and running on your Apple, OS X and

BootCamp Assistant have absolutely NOTHING to do with what you are

doing while in Windows.

 

5) Apple DOES provide the "Macintosh Drivers for Microsoft Windows"

along with BootCamp Assistant (the drivers are now on a separate

Windows-only area on the Leopard Install Disk #1), which enable

Microsoft Windows to communicate with the Apple hardware.

 

Again, this has absolutely nothing to do with BootCamp Assistant. They

are WINDOWS device drivers, NOT OS X drivers. NO OSX application can

ever run under a Windows OS. The code bases are completely

mutually-exclusive. ONLY ONE OS at a time can run. Either OS X is

running, or Windows is running, but NEVER BOTH.

 

6) If one desires, Boot Camp Assistant is not required to run Windows

as the primary OS on your Apple PC anyway. Neither is OS X required.

One may wipe his Mac drive ENTIRELY, and Windows will STILL install

and run on it, WITHOUT the presence of either BootCamp or OS X on the

HD.

 

This is possible because Apple has added a BIOS-emulation section into

its EFI hardware chip, which allows almost ANY Intel-based OS to boot

on an Apple Intel PC with or without OS X installed.

 

In fact, NO PARTof OS X is required in order to install and run

Microsoft Windows on an Apple Intel-based PC.

 

The Mac's internal drive may be fully partitioned, from start to

finish, using Windows tools included with the Windows Installation

media. NO OS X tools are necessary to do this. OS X doesn't have to

be installed on the machine at all. ALL that is required off of the

OS X disk are the Macintosh Drivers for Windows. To access those once

Windows is installed, just stick the Leopard installation disk #1 into

the drive, and let the installer run.

 

PLEASE, try to do what Steve Jobs tells you to do, and "Think

differently", OK?

 

 

Donald L McDaniel

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[Guest Donald L McDaniel]

Re: Any experience installing SP3 on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:04:50 -0400, Juan I. Cahis

<jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote:

>Dear Colin & friends, I tried it, through Windows Update, and I

>received the message that the upgrade failed with error 0x8020000E.

>Doing a search in Microsoft site with this error number, I got

>KB936929, but frankly, I don't see any relationship between this

>article and SP3. KB936929 is related to a failed .NET 3.0

>installation.

 

Actually, Juan, KB936929 refers to the SERVICE PACK ITSELF.

You probably got a bad download of the service pack. I wouldn't

attempt to install it from within Windows Update without a fast

broadband connection. Using a dialup or slower broadband connection

is out of the question if you want a successfull update.

 

If I am not mistaken, you may purchase a disk containing the Service

Pack 3 code for "shipping and handling" (usually about $10US-$15US).

 

Also, ask yourself this question:

Did you attempt to install the Service Pack on an installation of XP

which did NOT contain at least Service Pack 1 installed? If so, that

was your problem, and you must install at least Service Pack 1 (SP2

would be better) first before attempting to update to Service Pack 3.

Service Pack 3 will NOT install on an RTM version of Windows.

>

>If I send to you the file "SETUPAPI.LOG", could it be helpful to solve

>my problem?

>

>Any hint?

 

My best hint is to find correct information. Once you have that, you

can do it yourself with little or no trouble.

>

>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>

>>I updated the drivers with the Boot Camp 2.1 update and then all went quite

>>well. I used Windows Update to do the upgrade. I am running XP Pro SP3 on

>>a MacBook Pro (core duo edition).

>>

>>"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message

>>news:3sjo24d9frutgsunpfj5evc0fqgbd4kbmr@4ax.com...

>>Dear friends, do you have any experience installing Windows SP3 for

>>XP-Pro on a Mac BootCamp partition?

>>

>>I access this partition through BootCamp and also through VMWare

>>Fusion without any problem up to now. My installation is fully updated

>>from the updates from Microsoft (including those post SP3), Apple

>>(including BootCamp 2.1 for Windows) and VMWare (1.2), but before

>>installing SP3, I would want to read some experiences from you.

>>

>>Any hint?

>>

>>

>>Thanks

>>Juan I. Cahis

>>Santiago de Chile (South America)

>>Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

 

There is nothing to forgive, since your English is just fine (in fact,

it's better than most who post here, and who use English as their

first language.)

 

 

Donald L McDaniel

Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.

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[Guest Juan I. Cahis]

Re: Any experience installing SP3 on a Mac BootCamp partition?

 

Dear Donald & friends:

 

Donald L McDaniel <orthocross@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:04:50 -0400, Juan I. Cahis

><jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote:

>

>>Dear Colin & friends, I tried it, through Windows Update, and I

>>received the message that the upgrade failed with error 0x8020000E.

>>Doing a search in Microsoft site with this error number, I got

>>KB936929, but frankly, I don't see any relationship between this

>>article and SP3. KB936929 is related to a failed .NET 3.0

>>installation.

>

>Actually, Juan, KB936929 refers to the SERVICE PACK ITSELF.

>You probably got a bad download of the service pack. I wouldn't

>attempt to install it from within Windows Update without a fast

>broadband connection. Using a dialup or slower broadband connection

>is out of the question if you want a successfull update.

>

>If I am not mistaken, you may purchase a disk containing the Service

>Pack 3 code for "shipping and handling" (usually about $10US-$15US).

>

>Also, ask yourself this question:

>Did you attempt to install the Service Pack on an installation of XP

>which did NOT contain at least Service Pack 1 installed? If so, that

>was your problem, and you must install at least Service Pack 1 (SP2

>would be better) first before attempting to update to Service Pack 3.

>Service Pack 3 will NOT install on an RTM version of Windows.

>

>>

>>If I send to you the file "SETUPAPI.LOG", could it be helpful to solve

>>my problem?

>>

>>Any hint?

>

>My best hint is to find correct information. Once you have that, you

>can do it yourself with little or no trouble.

>

>>

>>"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:

>>

>>>I updated the drivers with the Boot Camp 2.1 update and then all went quite

>>>well. I used Windows Update to do the upgrade. I am running XP Pro SP3 on

>>>a MacBook Pro (core duo edition).

>>>

>>>"Juan I. Cahis" <jiclbchSINBASURA@attglobal.net> wrote in message

>>>news:3sjo24d9frutgsunpfj5evc0fqgbd4kbmr@4ax.com...

>>>Dear friends, do you have any experience installing Windows SP3 for

>>>XP-Pro on a Mac BootCamp partition?

>>>

>>>I access this partition through BootCamp and also through VMWare

>>>Fusion without any problem up to now. My installation is fully updated

>>>from the updates from Microsoft (including those post SP3), Apple

>>>(including BootCamp 2.1 for Windows) and VMWare (1.2), but before

>>>installing SP3, I would want to read some experiences from you.

>>>

>>>Any hint?

>>>

>>>

>>>Thanks

>>>Juan I. Cahis

>>>Santiago de Chile (South America)

>>>Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!

>

>There is nothing to forgive, since your English is just fine (in fact,

>it's better than most who post here, and who use English as their

>first language.)

>

>

>Donald L McDaniel

>Please reply to the original newsgroup and thread.

>========================================================

 

I solved the problem analyzing SETUPAPI.LOG. According it, Windows

Update downloaded the Update with some errors without mentioning it,

so I downloaded the full Service Pack 3 (300+ MB), closed my Internet

connection, closed all my applications, including the Antivirus, and I

installed the SP3, in Windows Normal mode, without any problem.

 

As I mentioned earlier, I had previously updated to the latest level

my Windows XP Pro SP2, VMWare Fusion, and all the drives that Apple

provides to a BootCamp installed MsWindows.

 

 

Thanks

Juan I. Cahis

Santiago de Chile (South America)

Note: Please forgive me for my bad English, I am trying to improve it!