Error loading TcpMib.dll

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so did

> a

> clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I could

> no

> longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and

> tweaks.

>

> Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading TcpMib.dll".

> click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I am

> getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.

>

> Searched MSKb for message.

>

> "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard TCP/IP

> printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> View products that this article applies to.

> Article ID : 261302

> Last Review : October 30, 2006

> Revision : 5.1

> This article was previously published under Q261302

> SYMPTOMS

> When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft

> Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following error

> message:

> Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:

> Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.

> When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits, and

> no

> port is added.

> Back to the top

>

> CAUSE

> This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,

> Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been copied

> to

> the %SystemRoot% folder.

> Back to the top

>

> RESOLUTION

> To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the %SystemRoot%

> folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied file

> in

> the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> Back to the top

>

> STATUS

> Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products

> that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> Back to the top

>

> MORE INFORMATION

> The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system folder

> for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32

> folder.

>

> Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

> mgmtapi.dll;

> renamed them with.old sufix.

> Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not touch these

> as

> I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

>

> After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

> Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

>

> Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks and

> could not find it.

>

> thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version... need

at least IE5.1

As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and

unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing errors

depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go

directly

| to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back to

WU

| and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you

| install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go to

| Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think you

| installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do you

| use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine, and

my

| guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something like

| that is what screwed up WU for you.

|

| All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP, not

| Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a

| Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And I'll

| bet there's no way to uninstall it.

|

| Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how

you

| can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME. No,

| there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers

costs.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

| > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so

did

| > a

| > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I could

| > no

| > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

| > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and

| > tweaks.

| >

| > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

TcpMib.dll".

| > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I

am

| > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.

| >

| > Searched MSKb for message.

| >

| > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard TCP/IP

| > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

| > View products that this article applies to.

| > Article ID : 261302

| > Last Review : October 30, 2006

| > Revision : 5.1

| > This article was previously published under Q261302

| > SYMPTOMS

| > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft

| > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following

error

| > message:

| > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

| > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:

| > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.

| > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits,

and

| > no

| > port is added.

| > Back to the top

| >

| > CAUSE

| > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,

| > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been

copied

| > to

| > the %SystemRoot% folder.

| > Back to the top

| >

| > RESOLUTION

| > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

%SystemRoot%

| > folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied

file

| > in

| > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

| > Back to the top

| >

| > STATUS

| > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products

| > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

| > Back to the top

| >

| > MORE INFORMATION

| > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system

folder

| > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32

| > folder.

| >

| > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

| > mgmtapi.dll;

| > renamed them with.old sufix.

| > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not touch

these

| > as

| > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

| >

| > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

| > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

| >

| > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

| > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks and

| > could not find it.

| >

| > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

| >

|

May 17, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

OP had already been to WU at least once. It was on a subsequent attempt,

after installing other things, that s/he could no longer get in. At least,

that's what was said in a different thread in a different group. Or is MEB

right, DL Sayremn? Had you never been to Windows Update before on that new

system? Because if so, there's your problem right there. Need to install

IE6SP1 before you can get into WU these days.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version... need

> at least IE5.1

>

> As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and

> unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing

> errors

> depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go

> directly

> | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back

> to

> WU

> | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you

> | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go to

> | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think you

> | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do

> you

> | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine, and

> my

> | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something

> like

> | that is what screwed up WU for you.

> |

> | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP,

> not

> | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a

> | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And

> I'll

> | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

> |

> | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how

> you

> | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.

> No,

> | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers

> costs.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |

> | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so

> did

> | > a

> | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I

> could

> | > no

> | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and

> | > tweaks.

> | >

> | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

> TcpMib.dll".

> | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I

> am

> | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.

> | >

> | > Searched MSKb for message.

> | >

> | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard

> TCP/IP

> | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> | > View products that this article applies to.

> | > Article ID : 261302

> | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

> | > Revision : 5.1

> | > This article was previously published under Q261302

> | > SYMPTOMS

> | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft

> | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following

> error

> | > message:

> | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:

> | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.

> | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits,

> and

> | > no

> | > port is added.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > CAUSE

> | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,

> | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been

> copied

> | > to

> | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > RESOLUTION

> | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

> %SystemRoot%

> | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied

> file

> | > in

> | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > STATUS

> | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft

> products

> | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > MORE INFORMATION

> | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system

> folder

> | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32

> | > folder.

> | >

> | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

> | > mgmtapi.dll;

> | > renamed them with.old sufix.

> | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not touch

> these

> | > as

> | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

> | >

> | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

> | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

> | >

> | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks

> and

> | > could not find it.

> | >

> | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

> | >

> |

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

CORRECTION: I'm always forgetting this step, since I use the Security Update

CD. You need to get IE6SP1 and install it before you can get to Windows

Updates.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

> http://www.grystmill.com

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go

> directly to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go

> back to WU and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this

> BEFORE you install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have

> to go to Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I

> think you installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.

> What do you use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just

> fine, and my guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that

> something like that is what screwed up WU for you.

>

> All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP, not

> Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a

> Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And I'll

> bet there's no way to uninstall it.

>

> Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how

> you can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.

> No, there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers

> costs.

>

> --

> Gary S. Terhune

> MS-MVP Shell/User

>

> "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

>> Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so did

>> a

>> clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I could

>> no

>> longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

>> Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and

>> tweaks.

>>

>> Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading TcpMib.dll".

>> click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I am

>> getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.

>>

>> Searched MSKb for message.

>>

>> "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard TCP/IP

>> printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

>> View products that this article applies to.

>> Article ID : 261302

>> Last Review : October 30, 2006

>> Revision : 5.1

>> This article was previously published under Q261302

>> SYMPTOMS

>> When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft

>> Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following error

>> message:

>> Error loading the TCP MIB library.

>> When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:

>> Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.

>> When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits, and

>> no

>> port is added.

>> Back to the top

>>

>> CAUSE

>> This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,

>> Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been copied

>> to

>> the %SystemRoot% folder.

>> Back to the top

>>

>> RESOLUTION

>> To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

>> %SystemRoot%

>> folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied

>> file in

>> the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

>> Back to the top

>>

>> STATUS

>> Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft products

>> that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

>> Back to the top

>>

>> MORE INFORMATION

>> The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system folder

>> for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32

>> folder.

>>

>> Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

>> mgmtapi.dll;

>> renamed them with.old sufix.

>> Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not touch these

>> as

>> I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

>>

>> After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

>> Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

>>

>> Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

>> If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks and

>> could not find it.

>>

>> thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

>>

>

May 17, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back. Don't

recall the answer, though.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version... need

> at least IE5.1

>

> As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and

> unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing

> errors

> depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go

> directly

> | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back

> to

> WU

> | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you

> | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go to

> | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think you

> | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do

> you

> | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine, and

> my

> | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something

> like

> | that is what screwed up WU for you.

> |

> | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP,

> not

> | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a

> | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And

> I'll

> | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

> |

> | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain how

> you

> | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.

> No,

> | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers

> costs.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |

> | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems so

> did

> | > a

> | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I

> could

> | > no

> | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and

> | > tweaks.

> | >

> | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

> TcpMib.dll".

> | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but I

> am

> | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer on.

> | >

> | > Searched MSKb for message.

> | >

> | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard

> TCP/IP

> | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> | > View products that this article applies to.

> | > Article ID : 261302

> | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

> | > Revision : 5.1

> | > This article was previously published under Q261302

> | > SYMPTOMS

> | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in Microsoft

> | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following

> error

> | > message:

> | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error message:

> | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.

> | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard quits,

> and

> | > no

> | > port is added.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > CAUSE

> | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,

> | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been

> copied

> | > to

> | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > RESOLUTION

> | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

> %SystemRoot%

> | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the Microsoft-supplied

> file

> | > in

> | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > STATUS

> | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft

> products

> | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> | > Back to the top

> | >

> | > MORE INFORMATION

> | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system

> folder

> | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32

> | > folder.

> | >

> | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

> | > mgmtapi.dll;

> | > renamed them with.old sufix.

> | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not touch

> these

> | > as

> | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

> | >

> | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

> | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

> | >

> | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks

> and

> | > could not find it.

> | >

> | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

> | >

> |

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found as

IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

November 1999

Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with fresh

installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back. Don't

| recall the answer, though.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version...

need

| > at least IE5.1

| >

| > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and

| > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing

| > errors

| > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

| >

| > --

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go

| > directly

| > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go back

| > to

| > WU

| > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE you

| > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to go

to

| > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think

you

| > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What do

| > you

| > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine,

and

| > my

| > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that something

| > like

| > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

| > |

| > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows XP,

| > not

| > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of a

| > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And

| > I'll

| > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

| > |

| > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain

how

| > you

| > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and ME.

| > No,

| > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3 covers

| > costs.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

http://Windowsupdate.microsoft.com

| > |

| > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

| > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems

so

| > did

| > | > a

| > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I

| > could

| > | > no

| > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

| > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates and

| > | > tweaks.

| > | >

| > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

| > TcpMib.dll".

| > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok, but

I

| > am

| > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer

on.

| > | >

| > | > Searched MSKb for message.

| > | >

| > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard

| > TCP/IP

| > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

| > | > View products that this article applies to.

| > | > Article ID : 261302

| > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

| > | > Revision : 5.1

| > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

| > | > SYMPTOMS

| > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in

Microsoft

| > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the following

| > error

| > | > message:

| > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

| > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error

message:

| > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.

| > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard

quits,

| > and

| > | > no

| > | > port is added.

| > | > Back to the top

| > | >

| > | > CAUSE

| > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the Wsnmp32.dll,

| > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been

| > copied

| > | > to

| > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

| > | > Back to the top

| > | >

| > | > RESOLUTION

| > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

| > %SystemRoot%

| > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

Microsoft-supplied

| > file

| > | > in

| > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

| > | > Back to the top

| > | >

| > | > STATUS

| > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft

| > products

| > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

| > | > Back to the top

| > | >

| > | > MORE INFORMATION

| > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system

| > folder

| > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the System32

| > | > folder.

| > | >

| > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

| > | > mgmtapi.dll;

| > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

| > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not touch

| > these

| > | > as

| > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

| > | >

| > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

| > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

| > | >

| > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

| > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore disks

| > and

| > | > could not find it.

| > | >

| > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 18, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and

can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.

This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.

Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed

Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW. Updated

IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.

IE 6.0.2800.1106IS

Update Versions; SP1; Q918439; Q916281; Q833989; Q891781; Q313829; Q816362;

Q824220; Q830849; Q885258; Q893627; Q896156;905495; Q938127; Q939653

Late went to bed.

Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed FlashPlayer8.

Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got

following:

Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be

logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about 1-1/2

pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept

happening.

Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info about

this.

Nothing.

Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support

Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.

As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you to

this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.

Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.

You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.

Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else except

Update seems to work right.

Thanks again, David L. Sayre

May 18, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll - new modification to AVAST and/or other

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll - new modification to AVAST and/or other

Unless its changed [which is possible] since 01-07-08, the date of this

present testing installation [i do this every four or five months

specifically to test windowsupdate and other] your issue was likely due to

either a failed update [check the log and hist created] or you failed to

install the system updates [or all the updates].

Though Microsoft pushes the IE6 installation FIRST, I have found it better

to install the system updates [some are offered prior to IE6 installation if

you get that far using a supported browser, e.g. IE5.1 or above] THEN

install IE6, shutdown, then finish the updates to both. The required

administrator issue was noted after installation of a few updates.

Examples:

896688

905915

917425

9212812

The message produced looked similar to this:

"ADMINISTRATORS ONLY - To install items from Windows Update, you must be

logged on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group."

It may be that your IE6 installer includes old outdated files or something

failed to install properly.

You can check these files:

C:\WINDOWS\Windows Update.log

C:\Program Files\WindowsUpdate\V4\iuhist.xml

C:\WINDOWS\IE Setup Log.Txt

One NEW issue that MIGHT be involved is with AVAST. You may need to bypass

the web scanning proxy for ANY access to windowsupdate or Live. IF you have

setup the proxy/web check proxy, IF SO try these:

Open Internet Explorer

Click "Tools" and then click "Internet Options".

Click "Advanced," and then check "Use HTTP 1.1 through Proxy Connections"

check box.

Click the OK button.

--

You may be able to help resolve this issue by adding the following Web sites

to the Trusted Sites list in Internet Options:

http://V4.Windowsupdate.microsoft.com

https://v4.Windowsupdate.microsoft.com (Note: The https is correct)

http://Download.Windowsupdate.com

To add these web sites to the list, follow these steps:

1. Open Internet Explorer.

2. Click "Tools," and then click "Internet Options."

3. Click "Security."

4. Click the Trusted Sites icon.

5. Click "Sites."

6. Clear the check box "Require server verification (https:)for all sites in

this zone."

7. Add all four sites listed above.

---

This also may help resolve the issue and may be needed: by adding the

Windows Update sites to the exceptions list in the Internet Options Proxy

Settings.

To access the Exceptions settings:

1. Open Internet Explorer

2. Click "Tools" and then click "Internet Options."

3. Click "Connections" and then click "LAN Settings."

4. Click "Advanced" and add windowsupdate.microsoft.com;

v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com, and download.windowsupdate.com to the

exceptions list.If you run other proxy/firewall software, then add the sites

to the exception list for those applications as well.

----

Apparent server changes [code/scripting] have affected the usage for

Microsoft's sites [including SSL]. V4 is apparently specific to 98/ME, XP

and above have V6 and other. Hence you may also need to do these for

Live/Hotmail/MSN/other Microsoft servers or services.

CAUTION: this leaves any of these sites which you included in the

modifications, with direct and complete access. The only security will be

the protections you checked in Advanced and Trusted Zone [except for

on-access scanning in AVAST]. A default installation of [the present version

4.8] AVAST does NOT enable the web scanning proxy/service server in 9X. See

AVAST Help for information on how to enable it.

If using a rules based firewall, you will need to re-configure for the

addresses involved.

I haven't check autopatcher recently, but did before in other test

installations, hence my comments. I have also found, IF you intend to use

one of the un-official/cumulative updates, its best to start from a base

installation WITHOUT prior updates [unless they were required prior to use].

--

--

_________

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:251A8F6A-C2A7-4A2D-8E00-81EF89F579D3@microsoft.com...

| Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and

| can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.

|

| This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.

|

| Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed

| Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW.

Updated

| IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.

|

| IE 6.0.2800.1106IS

| Update Versions; SP1; Q918439; Q916281; Q833989; Q891781; Q313829;

Q816362;

| Q824220; Q830849; Q885258; Q893627; Q896156;905495; Q938127; Q939653

|

| Late went to bed.

|

| Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed

FlashPlayer8.

| Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got

| following:

|

| Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be

| logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about

1-1/2

| pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept

| happening.

|

| Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info

about

| this.

| Nothing.

|

| Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support

| Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.

|

| As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you

to

| this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.

|

| Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.

|

| You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.

|

| Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else

except

| Update seems to work right.

|

| Thanks again, David L. Sayre

|

May 18, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Thanks for the heads up. I was certain I'd been told that AutoPatcher can't

be uninstalled. Or rather that parts can't be, which to me is the same.

v4 of Windows Updates IS the version for Win9x systems. Win2000 and above

are at v6.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:251A8F6A-C2A7-4A2D-8E00-81EF89F579D3@microsoft.com...

> Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and

> can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.

>

> This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.

>

> Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed

> Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW.

> Updated

> IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.

>

> IE 6.0.2800.1106IS

> Update Versions; SP1; Q918439; Q916281; Q833989; Q891781; Q313829;

> Q816362;

> Q824220; Q830849; Q885258; Q893627; Q896156;905495; Q938127; Q939653

>

> Late went to bed.

>

> Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed

> FlashPlayer8.

> Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got

> following:

>

> Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be

> logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about

> 1-1/2

> pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept

> happening.

>

> Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info

> about

> this.

> Nothing.

>

> Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support

> Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.

>

> As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you

> to

> this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.

>

> Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.

>

> You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.

>

> Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else

> except

> Update seems to work right.

>

> Thanks again, David L. Sayre

>

May 18, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

On Sun, 18 May 2008 07:03:23 -0700, dlsayremn

<dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> put finger to keyboard and

composed:

>Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else except

>Update seems to work right.

>

>Thanks again, David L. Sayre

I'm not a programmer, so the following suggestions may be

inappropriate, but ...

You could try running msconfig.exe and looking for likely suspects in

the Startup tab.

Otherwise try msinfo32.exe and look for clues among the 32-bit modules

in the Software Environment.

You could also go to Start > Find > Files/Folders > Containing Text

"TcpMib.dll". That may help you find which application is attempting

to load this DLL.

- Franc Zabkar

--

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

May 18, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so I'm

surprised I didn't screw up worse.

Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest some

more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any

problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run the

SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found as

> IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

> Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

> November 1999

>

> Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with fresh

> installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back. Don't

> | recall the answer, though.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser version...

> need

> | > at least IE5.1

> | >

> | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and

> | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing

> | > errors

> | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

> | >

> | > --

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go

> | > directly

> | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go

> back

> | > to

> | > WU

> | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE

> you

> | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to

> go

> to

> | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I think

> you

> | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU. What

> do

> | > you

> | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just fine,

> and

> | > my

> | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that

> something

> | > like

> | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

> | > |

> | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows

> XP,

> | > not

> | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part of

> a

> | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS. And

> | > I'll

> | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

> | > |

> | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll explain

> how

> | > you

> | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and

> ME.

> | > No,

> | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3

> covers

> | > costs.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > |

> | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some problems

> so

> | > did

> | > | > a

> | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out I

> | > could

> | > | > no

> | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates

> and

> | > | > tweaks.

> | > | >

> | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

> | > TcpMib.dll".

> | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok,

> but

> I

> | > am

> | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the computer

> on.

> | > | >

> | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

> | > | >

> | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a standard

> | > TCP/IP

> | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> | > | > View products that this article applies to.

> | > | > Article ID : 261302

> | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

> | > | > Revision : 5.1

> | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

> | > | > SYMPTOMS

> | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in

> Microsoft

> | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the

> following

> | > error

> | > | > message:

> | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error

> message:

> | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be completed.

> | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard

> quits,

> | > and

> | > | > no

> | > | > port is added.

> | > | > Back to the top

> | > | >

> | > | > CAUSE

> | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the

> Wsnmp32.dll,

> | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has been

> | > copied

> | > | > to

> | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

> | > | > Back to the top

> | > | >

> | > | > RESOLUTION

> | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

> | > %SystemRoot%

> | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

> Microsoft-supplied

> | > file

> | > | > in

> | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> | > | > Back to the top

> | > | >

> | > | > STATUS

> | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft

> | > products

> | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> | > | > Back to the top

> | > | >

> | > | > MORE INFORMATION

> | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root system

> | > folder

> | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the

> System32

> | > | > folder.

> | > | >

> | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

> | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

> | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

> | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not

> touch

> | > these

> | > | > as

> | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

> | > | >

> | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

> | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

> | > | >

> | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore

> disks

> | > and

> | > | > could not find it.

> | > | >

> | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls the

system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

Second startup [order]:

238453USA8.EXE

245729us8.exe

256015usa8.exe

259728usa8.exe

273727usa8.exe

314147usa8.exe

329048usa8.exe

249973usa8.exe

274548usa8.exe

323172usa8.exe

329115usa8.exe

811630usa8.exe

823559usa8.exe

273991USA8.EXE

314941USA8.exe

323255USA8.exe

telnetup.exe

q240308.exe

q313829.exe

q330994.exe

q828750.exe

js56men.exe

KB819639.exe

dx9_98.exe

mdac_typ.exe

Then finishes, including the subversion change.

However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt to

install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I still

play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any updating,

as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either from

the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or

otherwise [then unable to update the program].

Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update

process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer version of

something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed first.

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so I'm

| surprised I didn't screw up worse.

|

| Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest some

| more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any

| problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run the

| SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found

as

| > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

| > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

| > November 1999

| >

| > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with

fresh

| > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

| >

| > --

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back.

Don't

| > | recall the answer, though.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser

version...

| > need

| > | > at least IE5.1

| > | >

| > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and

| > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have differing

| > | > errors

| > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows go

| > | > directly

| > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then go

| > back

| > | > to

| > | > WU

| > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this BEFORE

| > you

| > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have to

| > go

| > to

| > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I

think

| > you

| > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.

What

| > do

| > | > you

| > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just

fine,

| > and

| > | > my

| > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that

| > something

| > | > like

| > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

| > | > |

| > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to Windows

| > XP,

| > | > not

| > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any part

of

| > a

| > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS.

And

| > | > I'll

| > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

| > | > |

| > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll

explain

| > how

| > | > you

| > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE and

| > ME.

| > | > No,

| > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3

| > covers

| > | > costs.

| > | > |

| > | > | --

| > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > |

| > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

| > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some

problems

| > so

| > | > did

| > | > | > a

| > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found out

I

| > | > could

| > | > | > no

| > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

| > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has updates

| > and

| > | > | > tweaks.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

| > | > TcpMib.dll".

| > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work ok,

| > but

| > I

| > | > am

| > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the

computer

| > on.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a

standard

| > | > TCP/IP

| > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

| > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

| > | > | > Article ID : 261302

| > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

| > | > | > Revision : 5.1

| > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

| > | > | > SYMPTOMS

| > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in

| > Microsoft

| > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the

| > following

| > | > error

| > | > | > message:

| > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

| > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error

| > message:

| > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be

completed.

| > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard

| > quits,

| > | > and

| > | > | > no

| > | > | > port is added.

| > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | >

| > | > | > CAUSE

| > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the

| > Wsnmp32.dll,

| > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has

been

| > | > copied

| > | > | > to

| > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

| > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | >

| > | > | > RESOLUTION

| > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

| > | > %SystemRoot%

| > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

| > Microsoft-supplied

| > | > file

| > | > | > in

| > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

| > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | >

| > | > | > STATUS

| > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the Microsoft

| > | > products

| > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

| > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | >

| > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

| > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root

system

| > | > folder

| > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the

| > System32

| > | > | > folder.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll, and

| > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

| > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

| > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not

| > touch

| > | > these

| > | > | > as

| > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

| > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

| > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore

| > disks

| > | > and

| > | > | > could not find it.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

| > | > | >

| > | > |

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I

understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases in

mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get along with

the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land, then

it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

> It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls the

> system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

>

> Second startup [order]:

> 238453USA8.EXE

> 245729us8.exe

> 256015usa8.exe

> 259728usa8.exe

> 273727usa8.exe

> 314147usa8.exe

> 329048usa8.exe

> 249973usa8.exe

> 274548usa8.exe

> 323172usa8.exe

> 329115usa8.exe

> 811630usa8.exe

> 823559usa8.exe

> 273991USA8.EXE

> 314941USA8.exe

> 323255USA8.exe

> telnetup.exe

> q240308.exe

> q313829.exe

> q330994.exe

> q828750.exe

> js56men.exe

> KB819639.exe

> dx9_98.exe

> mdac_typ.exe

>

> Then finishes, including the subversion change.

>

> However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt to

> install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I

> still

> play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any

> updating,

> as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either from

> the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or

> otherwise [then unable to update the program].

>

> Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update

> process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer version

> of

> something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed first.

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so I'm

> | surprised I didn't screw up worse.

> |

> | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest some

> | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any

> | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run

> the

> | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003. Found

> as

> | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

> | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

> | > November 1999

> | >

> | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with

> fresh

> | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

> | >

> | > --

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back.

> Don't

> | > | recall the answer, though.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser

> version...

> | > need

> | > | > at least IE5.1

> | > | >

> | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods and

> | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have

> differing

> | > | > errors

> | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

> | > | >

> | > | > --

>http://www.msfn.org/board/Auto-Patcher-For-Windows-98se-English-t80800.html

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing Windows

> go

> | > | > directly

> | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then

> go

> | > back

> | > | > to

> | > | > WU

> | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this

> BEFORE

> | > you

> | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never have

> to

> | > go

> | > to

> | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I

> think

> | > you

> | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.

> What

> | > do

> | > | > you

> | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just

> fine,

> | > and

> | > | > my

> | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that

> | > something

> | > | > like

> | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to

> Windows

> | > XP,

> | > | > not

> | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any

> part

> of

> | > a

> | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a POS.

> And

> | > | > I'll

> | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll

> explain

> | > how

> | > | > you

> | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE

> and

> | > ME.

> | > | > No,

> | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3

> | > covers

> | > | > costs.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message

> | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some

> problems

> | > so

> | > | > did

> | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found

> out

> I

> | > | > could

> | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has

> updates

> | > and

> | > | > | > tweaks.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

> | > | > TcpMib.dll".

> | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work

> ok,

> | > but

> | > I

> | > | > am

> | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the

> computer

> | > on.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a

> standard

> | > | > TCP/IP

> | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

> | > | > | > Article ID : 261302

> | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

> | > | > | > Revision : 5.1

> | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

> | > | > | > SYMPTOMS

> | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in

> | > Microsoft

> | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the

> | > following

> | > | > error

> | > | > | > message:

> | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional error

> | > message:

> | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be

> completed.

> | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard

> | > quits,

> | > | > and

> | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > port is added.

> | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > CAUSE

> | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the

> | > Wsnmp32.dll,

> | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file has

> been

> | > | > copied

> | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

> | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > RESOLUTION

> | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in the

> | > | > %SystemRoot%

> | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

> | > Microsoft-supplied

> | > | > file

> | > | > | > in

> | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > STATUS

> | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the

> Microsoft

> | > | > products

> | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

> | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root

> system

> | > | > folder

> | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the

> | > System32

> | > | > | > folder.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll,

> and

> | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

> | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

> | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did not

> | > touch

> | > | > these

> | > | > | > as

> | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll" message.

> | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system restore

> | > disks

> | > | > and

> | > | > | > could not find it.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

> | > | > | >

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:31:08 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put

finger to keyboard and composed:

>MEB just pointed out the obvious to me in another thread. Your problem is

>Auto-Patcher, or rather, one of its components. The program is supposedly

>very easy to deal with, choosing which patches or tweaks to install. Perhaps

>the people who built and support it can more quickly tell you what went

>wrong.

>Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 SE (English)

Auto-Patcher Module Contents

December 2007 Final

http://soporific.dsleague.com/downloads/modules.htm

- Franc Zabkar

--

Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were

designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL

versions were needed and checked for during the install or were

written/modified/added specifically during the install.

You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such as

transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written before IE

6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So

installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed when

they were created], allows their installation or their updates; which after

installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further problems.

The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and what

needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully backwards

compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.

IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated version is

NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,, it is

much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending upon

whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the exact

issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or RegMon,

or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required DLL

{whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily re-install

[degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You can find

indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.

This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If you

think about it, it makes sense.

The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I

| understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases in

| mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get along

with

| the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land, then

| it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

| > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls the

| > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

| >

| > Second startup [order]:

| > 238453USA8.EXE

| > 245729us8.exe

| > 256015usa8.exe

| > 259728usa8.exe

| > 273727usa8.exe

| > 314147usa8.exe

| > 329048usa8.exe

| > 249973usa8.exe

| > 274548usa8.exe

| > 323172usa8.exe

| > 329115usa8.exe

| > 811630usa8.exe

| > 823559usa8.exe

| > 273991USA8.EXE

| > 314941USA8.exe

| > 323255USA8.exe

| > telnetup.exe

| > q240308.exe

| > q313829.exe

| > q330994.exe

| > q828750.exe

| > js56men.exe

| > KB819639.exe

| > dx9_98.exe

| > mdac_typ.exe

| >

| > Then finishes, including the subversion change.

| >

| > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt

to

| > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I

| > still

| > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any

| > updating,

| > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either

from

| > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or

| > otherwise [then unable to update the program].

| >

| > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update

| > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer version

| > of

| > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed

first.

| >

| > --

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so

I'm

| > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.

| > |

| > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest

some

| > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any

| > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I run

| > the

| > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003.

Found

| > as

| > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

| > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

| > | > November 1999

| > | >

| > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate with

| > fresh

| > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while back.

| > Don't

| > | > | recall the answer, though.

| > | > |

| > | > | --

| > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser

| > version...

| > | > need

| > | > | > at least IE5.1

| > | > | >

| > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods

and

| > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have

| > differing

| > | > | > errors

| > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

| > | > | >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > _________

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing

Windows

| > go

| > | > | > directly

| > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart, then

| > go

| > | > back

| > | > | > to

| > | > | > WU

| > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this

| > BEFORE

| > | > you

| > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never

have

| > to

| > | > go

| > | > to

| > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and I

| > think

| > | > you

| > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to WU.

| > What

| > | > do

| > | > | > you

| > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works just

| > fine,

| > | > and

| > | > | > my

| > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that

| > | > something

| > | > | > like

| > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to

| > Windows

| > | > XP,

| > | > | > not

| > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any

| > part

| > of

| > | > a

| > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a

POS.

| > And

| > | > | > I'll

| > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll

| > explain

| > | > how

| > | > | > you

| > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98, 98SE

| > and

| > | > ME.

| > | > | > No,

| > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD. $3

| > | > covers

| > | > | > costs.

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

| > message

| > | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

| > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some

| > problems

| > | > so

| > | > | > did

| > | > | > | > a

| > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when found

| > out

| > I

| > | > | > could

| > | > | > | > no

| > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

| > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has

| > updates

| > | > and

| > | > | > | > tweaks.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error loading

| > | > | > TcpMib.dll".

| > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to work

| > ok,

| > | > but

| > | > I

| > | > | > am

| > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the

| > computer

| > | > on.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a

| > standard

| > | > | > TCP/IP

| > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

| > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

| > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302

| > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

| > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1

| > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

| > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS

| > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard in

| > | > Microsoft

| > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the

| > | > following

| > | > | > error

| > | > | > | > message:

| > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

| > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional

error

| > | > message:

| > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be

| > completed.

| > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port

Wizard

| > | > quits,

| > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > no

| > | > | > | > port is added.

| > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > CAUSE

| > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the

| > | > Wsnmp32.dll,

| > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file

has

| > been

| > | > | > copied

| > | > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

| > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > RESOLUTION

| > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in

the

| > | > | > %SystemRoot%

| > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

| > | > Microsoft-supplied

| > | > | > file

| > | > | > | > in

| > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

| > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > STATUS

| > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the

| > Microsoft

| > | > | > products

| > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

| > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

| > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the root

| > system

| > | > | > folder

| > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks the

| > | > System32

| > | > | > | > folder.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3), wsmp32.dll,

| > and

| > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

| > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

| > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did

not

| > | > touch

| > | > | > these

| > | > | > | > as

| > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"

message.

| > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

| > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system

restore

| > | > disks

| > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > could not find it.

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > |

| > | > | >

| > | > |

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers that

did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems (vaguely

recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps, the

extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a massive

catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE or

before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.

What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and decide

to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that don't

involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more difficult to

deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the trade-off of

installing entire versions of IE a good deal?

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were

> designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL

> versions were needed and checked for during the install or were

> written/modified/added specifically during the install.

>

> You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such as

> transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written before

> IE

> 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So

> installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed

> when

> they were created], allows their installation or their updates; which

> after

> installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further

> problems.

> The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and what

> needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully

> backwards

> compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.

>

> IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated version is

> NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,, it is

> much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending upon

> whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the exact

> issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or RegMon,

> or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required DLL

> {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily re-install

> [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You can

> find

> indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.

>

> This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If you

> think about it, it makes sense.

>

> The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I

> | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases in

> | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get along

> with

> | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land,

> then

> | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

> | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls

> the

> | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

> | >

> | > Second startup [order]:

> | > 238453USA8.EXE

> | > 245729us8.exe

> | > 256015usa8.exe

> | > 259728usa8.exe

> | > 273727usa8.exe

> | > 314147usa8.exe

> | > 329048usa8.exe

> | > 249973usa8.exe

> | > 274548usa8.exe

> | > 323172usa8.exe

> | > 329115usa8.exe

> | > 811630usa8.exe

> | > 823559usa8.exe

> | > 273991USA8.EXE

> | > 314941USA8.exe

> | > 323255USA8.exe

> | > telnetup.exe

> | > q240308.exe

> | > q313829.exe

> | > q330994.exe

> | > q828750.exe

> | > js56men.exe

> | > KB819639.exe

> | > dx9_98.exe

> | > mdac_typ.exe

> | >

> | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.

> | >

> | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines] attempt

> to

> | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes I

> | > still

> | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any

> | > updating,

> | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either

> from

> | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or

> | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].

> | >

> | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then update

> | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer

> version

> | > of

> | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed

> first.

> | >

> | > --

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions so

> I'm

> | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.

> | > |

> | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you suggest

> some

> | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into any

> | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I

> run

> | > the

> | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003.

> Found

> | > as

> | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

> | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

> | > | > November 1999

> | > | >

> | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate

> with

> | > fresh

> | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

> | > | >

> | > | > --

http://www.msfn.org/board/Auto-Patcher-For-Windows-98se-English-t80800.html

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while

> back.

> | > Don't

> | > | > | recall the answer, though.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser

> | > version...

> | > | > need

> | > | > | > at least IE5.1

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP files/mods

> and

> | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have

> | > differing

> | > | > | > errors

> | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing

> Windows

> | > go

> | > | > | > directly

> | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart,

> then

> | > go

> | > | > back

> | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > WU

> | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this

> | > BEFORE

> | > | > you

> | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never

> have

> | > to

> | > | > go

> | > | > to

> | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail and

> I

> | > think

> | > | > you

> | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to

> WU.

> | > What

> | > | > do

> | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works

> just

> | > fine,

> | > | > and

> | > | > | > my

> | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is that

> | > | > something

> | > | > | > like

> | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to

> | > Windows

> | > | > XP,

> | > | > | > not

> | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been any

> | > part

> | > of

> | > | > a

> | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is a

> POS.

> | > And

> | > | > | > I'll

> | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and I'll

> | > explain

> | > | > how

> | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98,

> 98SE

> | > and

> | > | > ME.

> | > | > | > No,

> | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on CD.

> $3

> | > | > covers

> | > | > | > costs.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> | > message

> | > | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE. Some

> | > problems

> | > | > so

> | > | > | > did

> | > | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when

> found

> | > out

> | > I

> | > | > | > could

> | > | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has

> | > updates

> | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > tweaks.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error

> loading

> | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".

> | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to

> work

> | > ok,

> | > | > but

> | > | > I

> | > | > | > am

> | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn the

> | > computer

> | > | > on.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a

> | > standard

> | > | > | > TCP/IP

> | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

> | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302

> | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

> | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1

> | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

> | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS

> | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard

> in

> | > | > Microsoft

> | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive the

> | > | > following

> | > | > | > error

> | > | > | > | > message:

> | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional

> error

> | > | > message:

> | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be

> | > completed.

> | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port

> Wizard

> | > | > quits,

> | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > | > port is added.

> | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > CAUSE

> | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the

> | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,

> | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll file

> has

> | > been

> | > | > | > copied

> | > | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

> | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION

> | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files in

> the

> | > | > | > %SystemRoot%

> | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

> | > | > Microsoft-supplied

> | > | > | > file

> | > | > | > | > in

> | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > STATUS

> | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the

> | > Microsoft

> | > | > | > products

> | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

> | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the

> root

> | > system

> | > | > | > folder

> | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks

> the

> | > | > System32

> | > | > | > | > folder.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),

> wsmp32.dll,

> | > and

> | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

> | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

> | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and HPTcpMON.d;did

> not

> | > | > touch

> | > | > | > these

> | > | > | > | > as

> | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"

> message.

> | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system

> restore

> | > | > disks

> | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > could not find it.

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | >

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

MEB just pointed out the obvious to me in another thread. Your problem is

Auto-Patcher, or rather, one of its components. The program is supposedly

very easy to deal with, choosing which patches or tweaks to install. Perhaps

the people who built and support it can more quickly tell you what went

wrong.

Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 SE (English)

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:251A8F6A-C2A7-4A2D-8E00-81EF89F579D3@microsoft.com...

> Gary and MEB, thanks for imput. AutoPatch98 seems to be a good program and

> can be removed. You can go to MSFN and check it out.

>

> This is order of events before I got the TcpMib.dll error.

>

> Had done clean install. Loaded Kerio FireWall and Avast AV. Installed

> Actiontec GT701-WG. Installed HP PSC1410v. Installed Samsung CDDVDW.

> Updated

> IEto 6.0. Went to Update and downloaded/installed updates for IE6.0.

>

> IE 6.0.2800.1106IS

> Update Versions; SP1; Q918439; Q916281; Q833989; Q891781; Q313829;

> Q816362;

> Q824220; Q830849; Q885258; Q893627; Q896156;905495; Q938127; Q939653

>

> Late went to bed.

>

> Got up, did a few chores and then turned on compter. Installed

> FlashPlayer8.

> Installed Media Player9. Went to Update to check for updates and got

> following:

>

> Update for Windows Update v4. Clicked ok. Got message that I had to be

> logged on as an Administrator to use Windows. Not full message, about

> 1-1/2

> pages. Tried several more times to get into Update and same thing kept

> happening.

>

> Went to Discussion Groups for Windows Update and 98 to see if any info

> about

> this.

> Nothing.

>

> Contacted Update Support. Teir reply in short, : We no longer support

> Systems prior to XP, but will help you upgrade with link to Sales.

>

> As near as I can tell any attempt to to reach Windows Update directs you

> to

> this v4 update and it is written to exclude al systems prior to XP.

>

> Thats why I went to MSFN as a last resort and got the Autopatch98.

>

> You may want to try Update using 98 and see what happens.

>

> Guess I can live with closing the error message since everything else

> except

> Update seems to work right.

>

> Thanks again, David L. Sayre

>

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Well as examples:

Take the old Word97 from Office or Home Essentials [or some other

installation]. You can attempt to run the base install in an updated system,

but to install all the updates {SR1, SR2, some of the addins, and the final

WORD8 to 9} the updaters balk if IE6 is installed. ALWIO

Another is the old WinFax Pro 7, it will not install [easily anyway] nor

will its updates, if the system gets much beyond the base SE {FE updated may

cause issues} install.

So, yeah, these are majorly outdated programs, but if the client [or me]

doesn't want to update, whacha gonna do...

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:%23R92pmduIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers that

| did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems

(vaguely

| recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps, the

| extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a massive

| catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE or

| before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.

|

| What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and

decide

| to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that

don't

| involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more difficult

to

| deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the trade-off

of

| installing entire versions of IE a good deal?

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were

| > designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL

| > versions were needed and checked for during the install or were

| > written/modified/added specifically during the install.

| >

| > You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such as

| > transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written

before

| > IE

| > 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So

| > installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed

| > when

| > they were created], allows their installation or their updates; which

| > after

| > installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further

| > problems.

| > The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and

what

| > needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully

| > backwards

| > compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.

| >

| > IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated version

is

| > NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,, it

is

| > much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending

upon

| > whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the

exact

| > issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or

RegMon,

| > or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required

DLL

| > {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily

re-install

| > [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You can

| > find

| > indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.

| >

| > This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If

you

| > think about it, it makes sense.

| >

| > The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.

| >

| > --

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I

| > | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases

in

| > | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get

along

| > with

| > | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x land,

| > then

| > | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

| > | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also controls

| > the

| > | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

| > | >

| > | > Second startup [order]:

| > | > 238453USA8.EXE

| > | > 245729us8.exe

| > | > 256015usa8.exe

| > | > 259728usa8.exe

| > | > 273727usa8.exe

| > | > 314147usa8.exe

| > | > 329048usa8.exe

| > | > 249973usa8.exe

| > | > 274548usa8.exe

| > | > 323172usa8.exe

| > | > 329115usa8.exe

| > | > 811630usa8.exe

| > | > 823559usa8.exe

| > | > 273991USA8.EXE

| > | > 314941USA8.exe

| > | > 323255USA8.exe

| > | > telnetup.exe

| > | > q240308.exe

| > | > q313829.exe

| > | > q330994.exe

| > | > q828750.exe

| > | > js56men.exe

| > | > KB819639.exe

| > | > dx9_98.exe

| > | > mdac_typ.exe

| > | >

| > | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.

| > | >

| > | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines]

attempt

| > to

| > | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games [yes

I

| > | > still

| > | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any

| > | > updating,

| > | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes [either

| > from

| > | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL, or

| > | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].

| > | >

| > | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then

update

| > | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer

| > version

| > | > of

| > | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is installed

| > first.

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions

so

| > I'm

| > | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.

| > | > |

| > | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you

suggest

| > some

| > | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into

any

| > | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time, I

| > run

| > | > the

| > | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes IE6SP1.

| > | > |

| > | > | --

| > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of 5.02314.1003.

| > Found

| > | > as

| > | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

| > | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

| > | > | > November 1999

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing windowsupdate

| > with

| > | > fresh

| > | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

| > | > | >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > _________

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while

| > back.

| > | > Don't

| > | > | > | recall the answer, though.

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser

| > | > version...

| > | > | > need

| > | > | > | > at least IE5.1

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP

files/mods

| > and

| > | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have

| > | > differing

| > | > | > | > errors

| > | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters, etc...

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > --

| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > | > --

| > | > | > | > _________

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing

| > Windows

| > | > go

| > | > | > | > directly

| > | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then restart,

| > then

| > | > go

| > | > | > back

| > | > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > WU

| > | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do this

| > | > BEFORE

| > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll never

| > have

| > | > to

| > | > | > go

| > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail

and

| > I

| > | > think

| > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get to

| > WU.

| > | > What

| > | > | > do

| > | > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still works

| > just

| > | > fine,

| > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > my

| > | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is

that

| > | > | > something

| > | > | > | > like

| > | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies to

| > | > Windows

| > | > | > XP,

| > | > | > | > not

| > | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been

any

| > | > part

| > | > of

| > | > | > a

| > | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater is

a

| > POS.

| > | > And

| > | > | > | > I'll

| > | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and

I'll

| > | > explain

| > | > | > how

| > | > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for Win98,

| > 98SE

| > | > and

| > | > | > ME.

| > | > | > | > No,

| > | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on

CD.

| > $3

| > | > | > covers

| > | > | > | > costs.

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

| > | > message

| > | > | > | > | news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

| > | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE.

Some

| > | > problems

| > | > | > so

| > | > | > | > did

| > | > | > | > | > a

| > | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when

| > found

| > | > out

| > | > I

| > | > | > | > could

| > | > | > | > | > no

| > | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

| > | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It has

| > | > updates

| > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > tweaks.

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error

| > loading

| > | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".

| > | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems to

| > work

| > | > ok,

| > | > | > but

| > | > | > I

| > | > | > | > am

| > | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn

the

| > | > computer

| > | > | > on.

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add a

| > | > standard

| > | > | > | > TCP/IP

| > | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

| > | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

| > | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302

| > | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

| > | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1

| > | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

| > | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS

| > | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard

| > in

| > | > | > Microsoft

| > | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive

the

| > | > | > following

| > | > | > | > error

| > | > | > | > | > message:

| > | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

| > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following additional

| > error

| > | > | > message:

| > | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not be

| > | > completed.

| > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port

| > Wizard

| > | > | > quits,

| > | > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > no

| > | > | > | > | > port is added.

| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > CAUSE

| > | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of the

| > | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,

| > | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll

file

| > has

| > | > been

| > | > | > | > copied

| > | > | > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION

| > | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files

in

| > the

| > | > | > | > %SystemRoot%

| > | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

| > | > | > Microsoft-supplied

| > | > | > | > file

| > | > | > | > | > in

| > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > STATUS

| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the

| > | > Microsoft

| > | > | > | > products

| > | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

| > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

| > | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the

| > root

| > | > system

| > | > | > | > folder

| > | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it checks

| > the

| > | > | > System32

| > | > | > | > | > folder.

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),

| > wsmp32.dll,

| > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

| > | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

| > | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and

HPTcpMON.d;did

| > not

| > | > | > touch

| > | > | > | > these

| > | > | > | > | > as

| > | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"

| > message.

| > | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

| > | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system

| > restore

| > | > | > disks

| > | > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > could not find it.

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > |

| > | > | >

| > | > |

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

That was a non-response. I didn't ask for and don't need examples, and I

acknowledged the possibility of your scenario making sense, in limited

cases, and presuming one is in possession of an encyclopedic knowledge of

the problematic apps you cite.

I really am interested in your responses to my second paragraph. It is, for

me, the core of the issue. Whatever does one do when an install of Word97

update/patch whatever fails on a fully updated 98 system? Were no solutions

to this presumably common problem developed? Presuming one did NOT know

about this and installed IE6 first during a fresh installation, then didn't

get around to installing Word97 and its updates until a week later. Would

you have to flatten the system in order to successfully install the app and

all its updates. Given all this, what you're suggesting is that all Win98

Gold installations pass through an IE5.1 installation (and then maybe an IE

5.5 installation and/or intermediate versions???) Are there similar

procedures suggested for Win98SE? If I were an average user, where would I

find the information I need to know -- whether or not any of my apps present

the problem, just which steps I need to take in each case? As you've stated,

they're all pretty old apps. Not supported, etc. Would not simple experience

be the only way for the user to know if the problem is present or not, and

if it requires a flattening to prove and fix it, well perhaps some notes

will be appended to the installation media.

I simply can't see going through the intermediate step(s) of extra IE

installations on GP.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uQOwUSfuIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Well as examples:

>

> Take the old Word97 from Office or Home Essentials [or some other

> installation]. You can attempt to run the base install in an updated

> system,

> but to install all the updates {SR1, SR2, some of the addins, and the

> final

> WORD8 to 9} the updaters balk if IE6 is installed. ALWIO

> Another is the old WinFax Pro 7, it will not install [easily anyway] nor

> will its updates, if the system gets much beyond the base SE {FE updated

> may

> cause issues} install.

>

> So, yeah, these are majorly outdated programs, but if the client [or me]

> doesn't want to update, whacha gonna do...

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:%23R92pmduIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers

> that

> | did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems

> (vaguely

> | recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps,

> the

> | extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a massive

> | catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE

> or

> | before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.

> |

> | What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and

> decide

> | to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that

> don't

> | involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more

> difficult

> to

> | deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the

> trade-off

> of

> | installing entire versions of IE a good deal?

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were

> | > designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL

> | > versions were needed and checked for during the install or were

> | > written/modified/added specifically during the install.

> | >

> | > You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such

> as

> | > transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written

> before

> | > IE

> | > 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue. So

> | > installing them early in the process [as the system would have existed

> | > when

> | > they were created], allows their installation or their updates; which

> | > after

> | > installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further

> | > problems.

> | > The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and

> what

> | > needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully

> | > backwards

> | > compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.

> | >

> | > IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated

> version

> is

> | > NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,,

> it

> is

> | > much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending

> upon

> | > whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the

> exact

> | > issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or

> RegMon,

> | > or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older required

> DLL

> | > {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily

> re-install

> | > [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You

> can

> | > find

> | > indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.

> | >

> | > This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation. If

> you

> | > think about it, it makes sense.

> | >

> | > The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.

> | >

> | > --

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway, I

> | > | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific cases

> in

> | > | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get

> along

> | > with

> | > | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x

> land,

> | > then

> | > | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

> | > | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also

> controls

> | > the

> | > | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

> | > | >

> | > | > Second startup [order]:

> | > | > 238453USA8.EXE

> | > | > 245729us8.exe

> | > | > 256015usa8.exe

> | > | > 259728usa8.exe

> | > | > 273727usa8.exe

> | > | > 314147usa8.exe

> | > | > 329048usa8.exe

> | > | > 249973usa8.exe

> | > | > 274548usa8.exe

> | > | > 323172usa8.exe

> | > | > 329115usa8.exe

> | > | > 811630usa8.exe

> | > | > 823559usa8.exe

> | > | > 273991USA8.EXE

> | > | > 314941USA8.exe

> | > | > 323255USA8.exe

> | > | > telnetup.exe

> | > | > q240308.exe

> | > | > q313829.exe

> | > | > q330994.exe

> | > | > q828750.exe

> | > | > js56men.exe

> | > | > KB819639.exe

> | > | > dx9_98.exe

> | > | > mdac_typ.exe

> | > | >

> | > | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.

> | > | >

> | > | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines]

> attempt

> | > to

> | > | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games

> [yes

> I

> | > | > still

> | > | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or any

> | > | > updating,

> | > | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes

> [either

> | > from

> | > | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some DLL,

> or

> | > | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].

> | > | >

> | > | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then

> update

> | > | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer

> | > version

> | > | > of

> | > | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is

> installed

> | > first.

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of distractions

> so

> | > I'm

> | > | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you

> suggest

> | > some

> | > | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run into

> any

> | > | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the time,

> I

> | > run

> | > | > the

> | > | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes

> IE6SP1.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of

> 5.02314.1003.

> | > Found

> | > | > as

> | > | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

> | > | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

> | > | > | > November 1999

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing

> windowsupdate

> | > with

> | > | > fresh

> | > | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a while

> | > back.

> | > | > Don't

> | > | > | > | recall the answer, though.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong browser

> | > | > version...

> | > | > | > need

> | > | > | > | > at least IE5.1

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP

> files/mods

> | > and

> | > | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may have

> | > | > differing

> | > | > | > | > errors

> | > | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters,

> etc...

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after installing

> | > Windows

> | > | > go

> | > | > | > | > directly

> | > | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then

> restart,

> | > then

> | > | > go

> | > | > | > back

> | > | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > WU

> | > | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do

> this

> | > | > BEFORE

> | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll

> never

> | > have

> | > | > to

> | > | > | > go

> | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your trail

> and

> | > I

> | > | > think

> | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to get

> to

> | > WU.

> | > | > What

> | > | > | > do

> | > | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still

> works

> | > just

> | > | > fine,

> | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > my

> | > | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is

> that

> | > | > | > something

> | > | > | > | > like

> | > | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

> | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies

> to

> | > | > Windows

> | > | > | > XP,

> | > | > | > | > not

> | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never been

> any

> | > | > part

> | > | > of

> | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater

> is

> a

> | > POS.

> | > | > And

> | > | > | > | > I'll

> | > | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

> | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com and

> I'll

> | > | > explain

> | > | > | > how

> | > | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for

> Win98,

> | > 98SE

> | > | > and

> | > | > | > ME.

> | > | > | > | > No,

> | > | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates on

> CD.

> | > $3

> | > | > | > covers

> | > | > | > | > costs.

> | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> in

> | > | > message

> | > | > | > | > |

> news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> | > | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE.

> Some

> | > | > problems

> | > | > | > so

> | > | > | > | > did

> | > | > | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs when

> | > found

> | > | > out

> | > | > I

> | > | > | > | > could

> | > | > | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> | > | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It

> has

> | > | > updates

> | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > tweaks.

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error

> | > loading

> | > | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".

> | > | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems

> to

> | > work

> | > | > ok,

> | > | > | > but

> | > | > | > I

> | > | > | > | > am

> | > | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I turn

> the

> | > | > computer

> | > | > | > on.

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you add

> a

> | > | > standard

> | > | > | > | > TCP/IP

> | > | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> | > | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

> | > | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302

> | > | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

> | > | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1

> | > | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

> | > | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS

> | > | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port

> Wizard

> | > in

> | > | > | > Microsoft

> | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may receive

> the

> | > | > | > following

> | > | > | > | > error

> | > | > | > | > | > message:

> | > | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following

> additional

> | > error

> | > | > | > message:

> | > | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not

> be

> | > | > completed.

> | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer

> Port

> | > Wizard

> | > | > | > quits,

> | > | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > | > | > port is added.

> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > CAUSE

> | > | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of

> the

> | > | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,

> | > | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll

> file

> | > has

> | > | > been

> | > | > | > | > copied

> | > | > | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION

> | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these files

> in

> | > the

> | > | > | > | > %SystemRoot%

> | > | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

> | > | > | > Microsoft-supplied

> | > | > | > | > file

> | > | > | > | > | > in

> | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > STATUS

> | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in the

> | > | > Microsoft

> | > | > | > | > products

> | > | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

> | > | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks the

> | > root

> | > | > system

> | > | > | > | > folder

> | > | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it

> checks

> | > the

> | > | > | > System32

> | > | > | > | > | > folder.

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),

> | > wsmp32.dll,

> | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

> | > | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

> | > | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and

> HPTcpMON.d;did

> | > not

> | > | > | > touch

> | > | > | > | > these

> | > | > | > | > | > as

> | > | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading TcpMib.dll"

> | > message.

> | > | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> | > | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my system

> | > restore

> | > | > | > disks

> | > | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > could not find it.

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | >

> | > | > |

> | > | >

> | > |

> | >

> |

>

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Soporific, if I remember correctly, has been a poster on MSFN [for years]..

perhaps you knew or were just posting the link for the contents..

Using that link, take due notice of the number of unofficial patches that

are included, many of which are NOT, apparently, able to be chosen or

refused, but are installed once the *module* is added.... don't choose the

module and that area remains un-updated, which potential could bring its own

issues for not installing it.

BTW, I applaud them for the attempts at continuing 98, but one must

understand that many/most of the *fixes* are still in testing phase...

--

>http://www.msfn.org/board/Auto-Patcher-For-Windows-98se-English-t80800.html

--

_________

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

news:8sc234h1sui1gnv51me281hmso8j24s3nu@4ax.com...

| On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:31:08 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put

| finger to keyboard and composed:

|

| >MEB just pointed out the obvious to me in another thread. Your problem is

| >Auto-Patcher, or rather, one of its components. The program is supposedly

| >very easy to deal with, choosing which patches or tweaks to install.

Perhaps

| >the people who built and support it can more quickly tell you what went

| >wrong.

| >Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 SE (English)

|

|

| Auto-Patcher Module Contents

| December 2007 Final

| http://soporific.dsleague.com/downloads/modules.htm

|

| - Franc Zabkar

| --

| Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

May 19, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

I find no reference to TCPMIB.DLL in that file. I find only one totally

unrelated mention of the file on all of MSFN. A Google search on

"TCPMIB.DLL" + "Auto-Patcher" returned zero hits.

OP needs to determine which module includes that DLL, what the module is

for, is it really necessary, and can it be individually uninstalled? Can it

be fixed? So OP needs to post a new post to the MSFN forum link and see if

anyone knows.

I can't stop believing that this app is another hand-grenade. Potentially

deadly, with the risk rising as experience declines.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

>>http://www.msfn.org/board/Auto-Patcher-For-Windows-98se-English-t80800.html

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message

news:8sc234h1sui1gnv51me281hmso8j24s3nu@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:31:08 -0700, "Gary S. Terhune" <none> put

> finger to keyboard and composed:

>

>>MEB just pointed out the obvious to me in another thread. Your problem is

>>Auto-Patcher, or rather, one of its components. The program is supposedly

>>very easy to deal with, choosing which patches or tweaks to install.

>>Perhaps

>>the people who built and support it can more quickly tell you what went

>>wrong.

>>Auto-Patcher for Windows 98 SE (English)

>

> Auto-Patcher Module Contents

> December 2007 Final

> http://soporific.dsleague.com/downloads/modules.htm

>

> - Franc Zabkar

> --

> Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

May 20, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

Oh, okay, don't look for me to make dozens of web pages on the installation

orders I have used... the issue there would be, that the finder would think

they had the scope of what needed done, skipping the prior activities/pages

[thank the search engines for that nifty *decrease* in knowledge] or failing

to understand WHY the order may need modified due to the OTHER INSTALLS they

intended to do.

The obvious answer to "what to do if it won't install with IE6" would be,

either you skip installation or start from scratch, or buy something that

works WITH it installed [which is what most people did]...

As for solutions: No, Microsoft and other developers produced no solutions

or modified updates to work in updated systems [or might have, or may have

gone out of business, or followed the world business model of forcing

updating by non-support and no updates]

Office 97 DID get two version of SR1, but only one SR2, by that time it was

basically unsupported and really only received the WORD

{Office97-KB830354-ENU.exe - 2003} [and EXCEL, maybe some others, I forget

and they are *filed away somewhere*] update due to MAJOR flaws..

Hence you find numerous complaints archived on the NET concerning programs

which couldn't be installed or couldn't be updated... many wouldn't go the

routine of fresh install and following an installation order anyway... its

easier to PAB/complain than to work through the issues OR buy something that

DOES work, you know that from experience I'm sure....

So, though you apparently think I didn't supply the answer, essentially I

did two post up; by using the created program date and its updates date as

indicators of WHEN to install. Compare that to the date of your OS and the

dates of its updates.... if its a 1998 or 1999 program then when do you

think it should be installed, likely early, once the OS is installed.. if

its a 2002 or 2005 program, then what might need done PRIOR to installing it

[like installing the older programs, checking the CDROM or installer to see

if it requires something OR may update key system files {mdac, DirectX,

DCOM, VBS, etc} incompatible with older installers/programs..], etc...

Of course, even this is incomplete, as many programs MUST be run at least

once after installation AND configured to complete the installation, wait,

and you may have file or registry issues..

It doesn't take an encyclopedia of knowledge, but it does take time, a

little thought, effort, and a bit of patience. Not exactly what you find in

today's world is it...

But really, if that individual has been running 98 for years and

re-installed more than twice, they should have at least figured out some of

this for themselves... the Security CD came out, in what, 2004, and was

intended to be used upon WELL ESTABLISHED systems [so let's think of it like

XP, we have 98 - - SE is {literally} Service Pack{Edition} 1, and the SecCD

is Service Pack 2 {though the SecCD also contains XPSR1 and 98 and SE {and

ME} updates}]...

--

--

_________

"Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

news:uqhcRnguIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| That was a non-response. I didn't ask for and don't need examples, and I

| acknowledged the possibility of your scenario making sense, in limited

| cases, and presuming one is in possession of an encyclopedic knowledge of

| the problematic apps you cite.

|

| I really am interested in your responses to my second paragraph. It is,

for

| me, the core of the issue. Whatever does one do when an install of Word97

| update/patch whatever fails on a fully updated 98 system? Were no

solutions

| to this presumably common problem developed? Presuming one did NOT know

| about this and installed IE6 first during a fresh installation, then

didn't

| get around to installing Word97 and its updates until a week later. Would

| you have to flatten the system in order to successfully install the app

and

| all its updates. Given all this, what you're suggesting is that all Win98

| Gold installations pass through an IE5.1 installation (and then maybe an

IE

| 5.5 installation and/or intermediate versions???) Are there similar

| procedures suggested for Win98SE? If I were an average user, where would I

| find the information I need to know -- whether or not any of my apps

present

| the problem, just which steps I need to take in each case? As you've

stated,

| they're all pretty old apps. Not supported, etc. Would not simple

experience

| be the only way for the user to know if the problem is present or not, and

| if it requires a flattening to prove and fix it, well perhaps some notes

| will be appended to the installation media.

|

| I simply can't see going through the intermediate step(s) of extra IE

| installations on GP.

|

| --

| Gary S. Terhune

| MS-MVP Shell/User

|

| "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| news:uQOwUSfuIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > Well as examples:

| >

| > Take the old Word97 from Office or Home Essentials [or some other

| > installation]. You can attempt to run the base install in an updated

| > system,

| > but to install all the updates {SR1, SR2, some of the addins, and the

| > final

| > WORD8 to 9} the updaters balk if IE6 is installed. ALWIO

| > Another is the old WinFax Pro 7, it will not install [easily anyway] nor

| > will its updates, if the system gets much beyond the base SE {FE updated

| > may

| > cause issues} install.

| >

| > So, yeah, these are majorly outdated programs, but if the client [or me]

| > doesn't want to update, whacha gonna do...

| >

| > --

| > --

| > _________

| >

| > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > news:%23R92pmduIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

| > | OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers

| > that

| > | did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems

| > (vaguely

| > | recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such apps,

| > the

| > | extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a

massive

| > | catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of IE

| > or

| > | before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.

| > |

| > | What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system and

| > decide

| > | to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions that

| > don't

| > | involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more

| > difficult

| > to

| > | deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the

| > trade-off

| > of

| > | installing entire versions of IE a good deal?

| > |

| > | --

| > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > |

| > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates were

| > | > designed around a limited system update status, example: certain DLL

| > | > versions were needed and checked for during the install or were

| > | > written/modified/added specifically during the install.

| > | >

| > | > You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era, such

| > as

| > | > transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written

| > before

| > | > IE

| > | > 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause issue.

So

| > | > installing them early in the process [as the system would have

existed

| > | > when

| > | > they were created], allows their installation or their updates;

which

| > | > after

| > | > installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further

| > | > problems.

| > | > The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS and

| > what

| > | > needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully

| > | > backwards

| > | > compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.

| > | >

| > | > IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated

| > version

| > is

| > | > NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the installer,,

| > it

| > is

| > | > much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM [depending

| > upon

| > | > whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine the

| > exact

| > | > issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or

| > RegMon,

| > | > or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older

required

| > DLL

| > | > {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily

| > re-install

| > | > [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE: You

| > can

| > | > find

| > | > indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.

| > | >

| > | > This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable installation.

If

| > you

| > | > think about it, it makes sense.

| > | >

| > | > The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.

| > | >

| > | > --

| > | > --

| > | > _________

| > | >

| > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"? Anyway,

I

| > | > | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific

cases

| > in

| > | > | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't get

| > along

| > | > with

| > | > | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x

| > land,

| > | > then

| > | > | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

| > | > |

| > | > | --

| > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > |

| > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

| > | > | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also

| > controls

| > | > the

| > | > | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Second startup [order]:

| > | > | > 238453USA8.EXE

| > | > | > 245729us8.exe

| > | > | > 256015usa8.exe

| > | > | > 259728usa8.exe

| > | > | > 273727usa8.exe

| > | > | > 314147usa8.exe

| > | > | > 329048usa8.exe

| > | > | > 249973usa8.exe

| > | > | > 274548usa8.exe

| > | > | > 323172usa8.exe

| > | > | > 329115usa8.exe

| > | > | > 811630usa8.exe

| > | > | > 823559usa8.exe

| > | > | > 273991USA8.EXE

| > | > | > 314941USA8.exe

| > | > | > 323255USA8.exe

| > | > | > telnetup.exe

| > | > | > q240308.exe

| > | > | > q313829.exe

| > | > | > q330994.exe

| > | > | > q828750.exe

| > | > | > js56men.exe

| > | > | > KB819639.exe

| > | > | > dx9_98.exe

| > | > | > mdac_typ.exe

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines]

| > attempt

| > | > to

| > | > | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and games

| > [yes

| > I

| > | > | > still

| > | > | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or

any

| > | > | > updating,

| > | > | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes

| > [either

| > | > from

| > | > | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some

DLL,

| > or

| > | > | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].

| > | > | >

| > | > | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then

| > update

| > | > | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a newer

| > | > version

| > | > | > of

| > | > | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is

| > installed

| > | > first.

| > | > | >

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > --

| > | > | > _________

| > | > | >

| > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of

distractions

| > so

| > | > I'm

| > | > | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you

| > suggest

| > | > some

| > | > | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run

into

| > any

| > | > | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the

time,

| > I

| > | > run

| > | > | > the

| > | > | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes

| > IE6SP1.

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > | > |

| > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of

| > 5.02314.1003.

| > | > Found

| > | > | > as

| > | > | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

| > | > | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet Tools

| > | > | > | > November 1999

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing

| > windowsupdate

| > | > with

| > | > | > fresh

| > | > | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > --

| > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > | > --

| > | > | > | > _________

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a

while

| > | > back.

| > | > | > Don't

| > | > | > | > | recall the answer, though.

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

| > | > | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong

browser

| > | > | > version...

| > | > | > | > need

| > | > | > | > | > at least IE5.1

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP

| > files/mods

| > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may

have

| > | > | > differing

| > | > | > | > | > errors

| > | > | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters,

| > etc...

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > --

| > | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

| > | > | > | > | > --

| > | > | > | > | > _________

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

| > | > | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

| > | > | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after

installing

| > | > Windows

| > | > | > go

| > | > | > | > | > directly

| > | > | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then

| > restart,

| > | > then

| > | > | > go

| > | > | > | > back

| > | > | > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > | > WU

| > | > | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered. Do

| > this

| > | > | > BEFORE

| > | > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll

| > never

| > | > have

| > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > go

| > | > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your

trail

| > and

| > | > I

| > | > | > think

| > | > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to

get

| > to

| > | > WU.

| > | > | > What

| > | > | > | > do

| > | > | > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still

| > works

| > | > just

| > | > | > fine,

| > | > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > my

| > | > | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere is

| > that

| > | > | > | > something

| > | > | > | > | > like

| > | > | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

| > | > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It applies

| > to

| > | > | > Windows

| > | > | > | > XP,

| > | > | > | > | > not

| > | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never

been

| > any

| > | > | > part

| > | > | > of

| > | > | > | > a

| > | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the AutoUpdater

| > is

| > a

| > | > POS.

| > | > | > And

| > | > | > | > | > I'll

| > | > | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

| > | > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com

and

| > I'll

| > | > | > explain

| > | > | > | > how

| > | > | > | > | > you

| > | > | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for

| > Win98,

| > | > 98SE

| > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > ME.

| > | > | > | > | > No,

| > | > | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates

on

| > CD.

| > | > $3

| > | > | > | > covers

| > | > | > | > | > costs.

| > | > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | > | --

| > | > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

| > | > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

| > | > | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

| > | > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote

| > in

| > | > | > message

| > | > | > | > | > |

| > news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

| > | > | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with 98SE.

| > Some

| > | > | > problems

| > | > | > | > so

| > | > | > | > | > did

| > | > | > | > | > | > a

| > | > | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs

when

| > | > found

| > | > | > out

| > | > | > I

| > | > | > | > | > could

| > | > | > | > | > | > no

| > | > | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe. It

| > has

| > | > | > updates

| > | > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > | > tweaks.

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message "Error

| > | > loading

| > | > | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".

| > | > | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still seems

| > to

| > | > work

| > | > | > ok,

| > | > | > | > but

| > | > | > | > I

| > | > | > | > | > am

| > | > | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I

turn

| > the

| > | > | > computer

| > | > | > | > on.

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you

add

| > a

| > | > | > standard

| > | > | > | > | > TCP/IP

| > | > | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

| > | > | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302

| > | > | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

| > | > | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1

| > | > | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under Q261302

| > | > | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS

| > | > | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port

| > Wizard

| > | > in

| > | > | > | > Microsoft

| > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may

receive

| > the

| > | > | > | > following

| > | > | > | > | > error

| > | > | > | > | > | > message:

| > | > | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

| > | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following

| > additional

| > | > error

| > | > | > | > message:

| > | > | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could not

| > be

| > | > | > completed.

| > | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer

| > Port

| > | > Wizard

| > | > | > | > quits,

| > | > | > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > | > no

| > | > | > | > | > | > port is added.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > CAUSE

| > | > | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version of

| > the

| > | > | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,

| > | > | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or Snmpapi.dll

| > file

| > | > has

| > | > | > been

| > | > | > | > | > copied

| > | > | > | > | > | > to

| > | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION

| > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these

files

| > in

| > | > the

| > | > | > | > | > %SystemRoot%

| > | > | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

| > | > | > | > Microsoft-supplied

| > | > | > | > | > file

| > | > | > | > | > | > in

| > | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > STATUS

| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in

the

| > | > | > Microsoft

| > | > | > | > | > products

| > | > | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

| > | > | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks

the

| > | > root

| > | > | > system

| > | > | > | > | > folder

| > | > | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it

| > checks

| > | > the

| > | > | > | > System32

| > | > | > | > | > | > folder.

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),

| > | > wsmp32.dll,

| > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

| > | > | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and

| > HPTcpMON.d;did

| > | > not

| > | > | > | > touch

| > | > | > | > | > these

| > | > | > | > | > | > as

| > | > | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading

TcpMib.dll"

| > | > message.

| > | > | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my computer.

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

| > | > | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my

system

| > | > restore

| > | > | > | > disks

| > | > | > | > | > and

| > | > | > | > | > | > could not find it.

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

| > | > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | > | >

| > | > | > | > |

| > | > | > | >

| > | > | > |

| > | > | >

| > | > |

| > | >

| > |

| >

|

May 20, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

I shouldn't think anyone who'd successfully reinstalled the system a couple

of times already, including problem apps, would be asking for assistance.

Anyway, I can't see appending your recommendation, including sufficient

detail to be useful, to my standard response when asked about Windows Update

not working, or even to basic installation instructions. Gonna have to

shoulder that one on your own, or have PCR add it to a Master Post.

--

Gary S. Terhune

MS-MVP Shell/User

"MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:%23Jb3P7huIHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Oh, okay, don't look for me to make dozens of web pages on the

> installation

> orders I have used... the issue there would be, that the finder would

> think

> they had the scope of what needed done, skipping the prior

> activities/pages

> [thank the search engines for that nifty *decrease* in knowledge] or

> failing

> to understand WHY the order may need modified due to the OTHER INSTALLS

> they

> intended to do.

>

> The obvious answer to "what to do if it won't install with IE6" would be,

> either you skip installation or start from scratch, or buy something that

> works WITH it installed [which is what most people did]...

>

> As for solutions: No, Microsoft and other developers produced no solutions

> or modified updates to work in updated systems [or might have, or may have

> gone out of business, or followed the world business model of forcing

> updating by non-support and no updates]

> Office 97 DID get two version of SR1, but only one SR2, by that time it

> was

> basically unsupported and really only received the WORD

> {Office97-KB830354-ENU.exe - 2003} [and EXCEL, maybe some others, I forget

> and they are *filed away somewhere*] update due to MAJOR flaws..

> Hence you find numerous complaints archived on the NET concerning programs

> which couldn't be installed or couldn't be updated... many wouldn't go the

> routine of fresh install and following an installation order anyway... its

> easier to PAB/complain than to work through the issues OR buy something

> that

> DOES work, you know that from experience I'm sure....

>

> So, though you apparently think I didn't supply the answer, essentially I

> did two post up; by using the created program date and its updates date as

> indicators of WHEN to install. Compare that to the date of your OS and the

> dates of its updates.... if its a 1998 or 1999 program then when do you

> think it should be installed, likely early, once the OS is installed.. if

> its a 2002 or 2005 program, then what might need done PRIOR to installing

> it

> [like installing the older programs, checking the CDROM or installer to

> see

> if it requires something OR may update key system files {mdac, DirectX,

> DCOM, VBS, etc} incompatible with older installers/programs..], etc...

> Of course, even this is incomplete, as many programs MUST be run at least

> once after installation AND configured to complete the installation, wait,

> and you may have file or registry issues..

>

> It doesn't take an encyclopedia of knowledge, but it does take time, a

> little thought, effort, and a bit of patience. Not exactly what you find

> in

> today's world is it...

> But really, if that individual has been running 98 for years and

> re-installed more than twice, they should have at least figured out some

> of

> this for themselves... the Security CD came out, in what, 2004, and was

> intended to be used upon WELL ESTABLISHED systems [so let's think of it

> like

> XP, we have 98 - - SE is {literally} Service Pack{Edition} 1, and the

> SecCD

> is Service Pack 2 {though the SecCD also contains XPSR1 and 98 and SE {and

> ME} updates}]...

>

> --

> --

> _________

>

> "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> news:uqhcRnguIHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | That was a non-response. I didn't ask for and don't need examples, and I

> | acknowledged the possibility of your scenario making sense, in limited

> | cases, and presuming one is in possession of an encyclopedic knowledge

> of

> | the problematic apps you cite.

> |

> | I really am interested in your responses to my second paragraph. It is,

> for

> | me, the core of the issue. Whatever does one do when an install of

> Word97

> | update/patch whatever fails on a fully updated 98 system? Were no

> solutions

> | to this presumably common problem developed? Presuming one did NOT know

> | about this and installed IE6 first during a fresh installation, then

> didn't

> | get around to installing Word97 and its updates until a week later.

> Would

> | you have to flatten the system in order to successfully install the app

> and

> | all its updates. Given all this, what you're suggesting is that all

> Win98

> | Gold installations pass through an IE5.1 installation (and then maybe an

> IE

> | 5.5 installation and/or intermediate versions???) Are there similar

> | procedures suggested for Win98SE? If I were an average user, where would

> I

> | find the information I need to know -- whether or not any of my apps

> present

> | the problem, just which steps I need to take in each case? As you've

> stated,

> | they're all pretty old apps. Not supported, etc. Would not simple

> experience

> | be the only way for the user to know if the problem is present or not,

> and

> | if it requires a flattening to prove and fix it, well perhaps some notes

> | will be appended to the installation media.

> |

> | I simply can't see going through the intermediate step(s) of extra IE

> | installations on GP.

> |

> | --

> | Gary S. Terhune

> | MS-MVP Shell/User

> |

> | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | news:uQOwUSfuIHA.4528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > Well as examples:

> | >

> | > Take the old Word97 from Office or Home Essentials [or some other

> | > installation]. You can attempt to run the base install in an updated

> | > system,

> | > but to install all the updates {SR1, SR2, some of the addins, and the

> | > final

> | > WORD8 to 9} the updaters balk if IE6 is installed. ALWIO

> | > Another is the old WinFax Pro 7, it will not install [easily anyway]

> nor

> | > will its updates, if the system gets much beyond the base SE {FE

> updated

> | > may

> | > cause issues} install.

> | >

> | > So, yeah, these are majorly outdated programs, but if the client [or

> me]

> | > doesn't want to update, whacha gonna do...

> | >

> | > --

> | > --

> | > _________

> | >

> | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > news:%23R92pmduIHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> | > | OK, I see the point, and yes, I do recall hearing of apps installers

> | > that

> | > | did that and I've probably even dealt with a lot of their problems

> | > (vaguely

> | > | recall, memory issues.) Presented with the need to install such

> apps,

> | > the

> | > | extra steps would seem worth it. But I would think you'd need a

> massive

> | > | catalog, mental or otherwise, to remember between which versions of

> IE

> | > or

> | > | before or after which Updates you want to install which apps.

> | > |

> | > | What do you do when you already have a nice, well adjusted system

> and

> | > decide

> | > | to install such an app? Surely there are well-developed solutions

> that

> | > don't

> | > | involve regressing entire versions of IE. Are they so much more

> | > difficult

> | > to

> | > | deploy after IE6 has been installed that they actually make the

> | > trade-off

> | > of

> | > | installing entire versions of IE a good deal?

> | > |

> | > | --

> | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > |

> | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | news:euYYgVduIHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > | > Oh no, you missed the point. Some applications or their updates

> were

> | > | > designed around a limited system update status, example: certain

> DLL

> | > | > versions were needed and checked for during the install or were

> | > | > written/modified/added specifically during the install.

> | > | >

> | > | > You find this in some programs written during the early 9X era,

> such

> | > as

> | > | > transitional 95 to 98 programs or 98 to 98SE [or even some written

> | > before

> | > | > IE

> | > | > 6 changes], where even the minimally updated files may cause

> issue.

> So

> | > | > installing them early in the process [as the system would have

> existed

> | > | > when

> | > | > they were created], allows their installation or their updates;

> which

> | > | > after

> | > | > installation and application upgrade, generally causes no further

> | > | > problems.

> | > | > The installer is no longer attempting to determine SYSTEM STATUS

> and

> | > what

> | > | > needs installed, so the system updates done afterwards [hopefully

> | > | > backwards

> | > | > compatible with earlier versions] cause no errors in the programs.

> | > | >

> | > | > IF a program needs an older version of some DLL and the updated

> | > version

> | > is

> | > | > NOT fully backwards compatible or even recognized by the

> installer,,

> | > it

> | > is

> | > | > much easier to then go to SYSBKUP or Options\CABS\ or VCM

> [depending

> | > upon

> | > | > whether they were involved] OR the update INF file to determine

> the

> | > exact

> | > | > issue involved [or run something like Process Explorer, FileMon or

> | > RegMon,

> | > | > or the like, to locate/diagnose], so you can place the older

> required

> | > DLL

> | > | > {whatever} into the problem application's folder or temporarily

> | > re-install

> | > | > [degrade] the DLL {or whatever} to the needed version..EXAMPLE:

> You

> | > can

> | > | > find

> | > | > indications of this when a program REQUIRES IE6SP1 be installed.

> | > | >

> | > | > This is the way I have found produces THE MOST stable

> installation.

> If

> | > you

> | > | > think about it, it makes sense.

> | > | >

> | > | > The sub-version change referred to the A to B change.

> | > | >

> | > | > --

> | > | > --

> | > | > _________

> | > | >

> | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > news:ev9DDTYuIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | Uh. Never seen that myself. What is a "subversion change"?

> Anyway,

> I

> | > | > | understand your logic, and I'm guessing that you have specific

> cases

> | > in

> | > | > | mind. But if Windows has to be left outdated because it can't

> get

> | > along

> | > | > with

> | > | > | the updated state of the system, if it has to be left in IE 5.x

> | > land,

> | > | > then

> | > | > | it's a machine I would respectfully suggest stay offline.

> | > | > |

> | > | > | --

> | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > |

> | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | news:ulzLAGVuIHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > Agreed, the SecCD does make it considerable easier.

> | > | > | > It seems to start with IE6 as well, but of course, it also

> | > controls

> | > | > the

> | > | > | > system and the exact order of installations and shut downs.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Second startup [order]:

> | > | > | > 238453USA8.EXE

> | > | > | > 245729us8.exe

> | > | > | > 256015usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 259728usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 273727usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 314147usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 329048usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 249973usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 274548usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 323172usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 329115usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 811630usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 823559usa8.exe

> | > | > | > 273991USA8.EXE

> | > | > | > 314941USA8.exe

> | > | > | > 323255USA8.exe

> | > | > | > telnetup.exe

> | > | > | > q240308.exe

> | > | > | > q313829.exe

> | > | > | > q330994.exe

> | > | > | > q828750.exe

> | > | > | > js56men.exe

> | > | > | > KB819639.exe

> | > | > | > dx9_98.exe

> | > | > | > mdac_typ.exe

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Then finishes, including the subversion change.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > However, I also [when using any of the OSs or update routines]

> | > attempt

> | > | > to

> | > | > | > install as many of the oldest programs, applications, and

> games

> | > [yes

> | > I

> | > | > | > still

> | > | > | > play some old ones occasionally] prior to running the SecCD or

> any

> | > | > | > updating,

> | > | > | > as I have had difficulties not doing so, due to file changes

> | > [either

> | > | > from

> | > | > | > the installed or due to SecCD] such as wrong mdac type, some

> DLL,

> | > or

> | > | > | > otherwise [then unable to update the program].

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > Anyway, IE5.1 is used as an intermediate installation and then

> | > update

> | > | > | > process, when an application balks at its updates [needs a

> newer

> | > | > version

> | > | > | > of

> | > | > | > something], yet also refuses to update at all when IE6 is

> | > installed

> | > | > first.

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | >

> | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > news:eroN6zSuIHA.1220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | OK, my memory sucks. And yesterday was just FULL of

> distractions

> | > so

> | > | > I'm

> | > | > | > | surprised I didn't screw up worse.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | Though of course I always recommend IE6SP1. I see where you

> | > suggest

> | > | > some

> | > | > | > | more intricate form of updating, but since I've yet to run

> into

> | > any

> | > | > | > | problems, I'll stick with what I got. Besides, most of the

> time,

> | > I

> | > | > run

> | > | > | > the

> | > | > | > | SecUp Feb 2004 CD before anything else, and that includes

> | > IE6SP1.

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | news:e0xD0GJuIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | > Last test I did of IE versions produced minimum of

> | > 5.02314.1003.

> | > | > Found

> | > | > | > as

> | > | > | > | > IE5.1 on several CDROMs from that era.

> | > | > | > | > Microsoft Windows Internet Explorer 5.01 and Internet

> Tools

> | > | > | > | > November 1999

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > Though that was a few months ago, when re-testing

> | > windowsupdate

> | > | > with

> | > | > | > fresh

> | > | > | > | > installs of Win98[FE/Gold/SE].

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | > news:Okp0vbHuIHA.1872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | > | That's not IE5.5 minimum? Seems to me I tested that a

> while

> | > | > back.

> | > | > | > Don't

> | > | > | > | > | recall the answer, though.

> | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | "MEB" <meb@not here@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | > | news:eLkBeLGuIHA.672@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | > | > Likely can't get to windowsupdate due to the wrong

> browser

> | > | > | > version...

> | > | > | > | > need

> | > | > | > | > | > at least IE5.1

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > As for the autoupdater, it does install numerous XP

> | > files/mods

> | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > unofficial fixes/files, so each individual system may

> have

> | > | > | > differing

> | > | > | > | > | > errors

> | > | > | > | > | > depending upon the configuration, software, adapters,

> | > etc...

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > | > MEB http://peoplescounsel.orgfree.com

> | > | > | > | > | > --

> | > | > | > | > | > _________

> | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > "Gary S. Terhune" <none> wrote in message

> | > | > | > | > | > news:%23o$fLjEuIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> | > | > | > | > | > | Suggest you start over, and this time, after

> installing

> | > | > Windows

> | > | > | > go

> | > | > | > | > | > directly

> | > | > | > | > | > | to Windows Updates and download EVERYTHING, then

> | > restart,

> | > | > then

> | > | > | > go

> | > | > | > | > back

> | > | > | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > | > WU

> | > | > | > | > | > | and do it again until no more updates are offered.

> Do

> | > this

> | > | > | > BEFORE

> | > | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | > | install anything else. Once you've done this, you'll

> | > never

> | > | > have

> | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > go

> | > | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > | > | Windows Updates again. I've followed some of your

> trail

> | > and

> | > | > I

> | > | > | > think

> | > | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | > | installed something that screwed up your ability to

> get

> | > to

> | > | > WU.

> | > | > | > What

> | > | > | > | > do

> | > | > | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | > | use for Security. Norton products? Because WU still

> | > works

> | > | > just

> | > | > | > fine,

> | > | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > my

> | > | > | > | > | > | guess from what you've written before and elsewhere

> is

> | > that

> | > | > | > | > something

> | > | > | > | > | > like

> | > | > | > | > | > | that is what screwed up WU for you.

> | > | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | > | All that stuff you cite below is worthless. It

> applies

> | > to

> | > | > | > Windows

> | > | > | > | > XP,

> | > | > | > | > | > not

> | > | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x. AFAICT, TcpMib.dll is not and has never

> been

> | > any

> | > | > | > part

> | > | > | > of

> | > | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > | > | > | Windows 9x system. Suggests to me that the

> AutoUpdater

> | > is

> | > a

> | > | > POS.

> | > | > | > And

> | > | > | > | > | > I'll

> | > | > | > | > | > | bet there's no way to uninstall it.

> | > | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | > | Or, you can write to me at updates_at_grystmill.com

> and

> | > I'll

> | > | > | > explain

> | > | > | > | > how

> | > | > | > | > | > you

> | > | > | > | > | > | can get my set of CDs that include all Updates for

> | > Win98,

> | > | > 98SE

> | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > ME.

> | > | > | > | > | > No,

> | > | > | > | > | > | there's no tweaks, no HotFixes, just Windows Updates

> on

> | > CD.

> | > | > $3

> | > | > | > | > covers

> | > | > | > | > | > costs.

> | > | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | > | --

> | > | > | > | > | > | Gary S. Terhune

> | > | > | > | > | > | MS-MVP Shell/User

> | > | > | > | > | > | http://www.grystmill.com

> | > | > | > | > | > |

> | > | > | > | > | > | "dlsayremn" <dlsayremn@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote

> | > in

> | > | > | > message

> | > | > | > | > | > |

> | > news:48B016EA-CB38-4B44-BBB8-3F6E1C341FD7@microsoft.com...

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Have been working on my GW Essential 667 with

> 98SE.

> | > Some

> | > | > | > problems

> | > | > | > | > so

> | > | > | > | > | > did

> | > | > | > | > | > | > a

> | > | > | > | > | > | > clean reinstall and was adding/updating programs

> when

> | > | > found

> | > | > | > out

> | > | > | > I

> | > | > | > | > | > could

> | > | > | > | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > | > | > | > longer get Windows Update service. @#$%^&*(.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Found and used Autopatcher98.Dec_Full_Final.exe.

> It

> | > has

> | > | > | > updates

> | > | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > | > tweaks.

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Now when my computer starts I get the message

> "Error

> | > | > loading

> | > | > | > | > | > TcpMib.dll".

> | > | > | > | > | > | > click ok, message goes away and computer still

> seems

> | > to

> | > | > work

> | > | > | > ok,

> | > | > | > | > but

> | > | > | > | > I

> | > | > | > | > | > am

> | > | > | > | > | > | > getting a little tired of checking ok whenever I

> turn

> | > the

> | > | > | > computer

> | > | > | > | > on.

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Searched MSKb for message.

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > "Error Loading the TCP MIB Library" error when you

> add

> | > a

> | > | > | > standard

> | > | > | > | > | > TCP/IP

> | > | > | > | > | > | > printer port in Windows XP and in Windows 2000

> | > | > | > | > | > | > View products that this article applies to.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Article ID : 261302

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Last Review : October 30, 2006

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Revision : 5.1

> | > | > | > | > | > | > This article was previously published under

> Q261302

> | > | > | > | > | > | > SYMPTOMS

> | > | > | > | > | > | > When you use the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port

> | > Wizard

> | > | > in

> | > | > | > | > Microsoft

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Windows XP or Microsoft Windows 2000, you may

> receive

> | > the

> | > | > | > | > following

> | > | > | > | > | > error

> | > | > | > | > | > | > message:

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Error loading the TCP MIB library.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, you receive the following

> | > additional

> | > | > error

> | > | > | > | > message:

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Specified port cannot be added. Operations could

> not

> | > be

> | > | > | > completed.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > When you click OK, the Add Standard TCP/IP Printer

> | > Port

> | > | > Wizard

> | > | > | > | > quits,

> | > | > | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > | > no

> | > | > | > | > | > | > port is added.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > CAUSE

> | > | > | > | > | > | > This behavior may occur if a third-party version

> of

> | > the

> | > | > | > | > Wsnmp32.dll,

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Ntprint.dll, Tcpmib.dll, Mgmtapi.dll, or

> Snmpapi.dll

> | > file

> | > | > has

> | > | > | > been

> | > | > | > | > | > copied

> | > | > | > | > | > | > to

> | > | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot% folder.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > RESOLUTION

> | > | > | > | > | > | > To resolve this behavior, rename or delete these

> files

> | > in

> | > | > the

> | > | > | > | > | > %SystemRoot%

> | > | > | > | > | > | > folder. These files are taking precedence over the

> | > | > | > | > Microsoft-supplied

> | > | > | > | > | > file

> | > | > | > | > | > | > in

> | > | > | > | > | > | > the %SystemRoot%\System32 folder.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > STATUS

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft has confirmed that this is a problem in

> the

> | > | > | > Microsoft

> | > | > | > | > | > products

> | > | > | > | > | > | > that are listed in the "Applies to" section.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Back to the top

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > MORE INFORMATION

> | > | > | > | > | > | > The Add Standard TCP/IP Printer Port Wizard checks

> the

> | > | > root

> | > | > | > system

> | > | > | > | > | > folder

> | > | > | > | > | > | > for some dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) before it

> | > checks

> | > | > the

> | > | > | > | > System32

> | > | > | > | > | > | > folder.

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Searched for above files. Found snmpapi.dll(3),

> | > | > wsmp32.dll,

> | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > | > mgmtapi.dll;

> | > | > | > | > | > | > renamed them with.old sufix.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Also found HPtcpMib.dll, HPTcpMUI.dll, and

> | > HPTcpMON.d;did

> | > | > not

> | > | > | > | > touch

> | > | > | > | > | > these

> | > | > | > | > | > | > as

> | > | > | > | > | > | > I assume they are for my HP all-in one.

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> | > | > | > | > | > | > After reboot still get the "Error loading

> TcpMib.dll"

> | > | > message.

> | > | > | > | > | > | > Search for tcpm*.dll shows no files on my

> computer.

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> | > | > | > | > | > | > Any ideas as to what is calling for this file?

> | > | > | > | > | > | > If I do need it where do I get it. Searched my

> system

> | > | > restore

> | > | > | > | > disks

> | > | > | > | > | > and

> | > | > | > | > | > | > could not find it.

> | > | > | > | > | > | >

> | > | > | > | > | > | > thanks for any help. D.L. Sayre

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May 20, 2008

Re: Error loading TcpMib.dll

And to finish the thought process on 9X updates:

Actually, if you remember that long ago, when we upgraded from 95 to 98

[after MSDOS to Win3,3.1,3.11}, there was generally a question of WHY, it

didn't really provide many differences, some *eye candy*, less system

crashes [yep that was the claim], better {supposedly} memory management, a

bit more PlugnPray, a supposedly better *gaming environment*, and really,

what else {that was earth shaking???} not much. It was the same basic

system. Supposedly it divorced itself from DOS, but we all knew better. It

wasn't until it was updated several times that it actually ALMOST functioned

well, and that was the same for 95, SE, and we see it with the present

supported OSs. About the time they start to function as they really should

have from the beginning, its end of support, best move on and start the

process all over again.{yep, I hear that train acomin, its comin round the

bend ****}..

So 95 should probably be considered the actual BASE OS, with 98 as Service

Pak1, SE as Service Pak2, and the SecCD as a poor replacement [as it didn't

do all the updates necessary] for Service Pak3. Now we're more in-line with

XP and its 3 Service Releases. I left out ME {2000} because that was such a

failure and screw-up... though we probably should add it as the true Service

Pak3 and the SecCD as a partial roll-up CD or just what it says, a Security

Updates CD designed to get more IE6 usage [handy to have though]. What was

ME's push? PC Health, Digital Media, Home Networking, and Online

Experiance...

Just a bit of brain fudge for those who didn't go through the process or

just jumped on the train.

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